FPS & Kernel Question - Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does our phone have the 30fps cap like the Evo has? I saw they have kernels that unlock the 30fps cap and it makes the phone really smooth and such. Also, will the kernels that are for roms with sense, if you use the skyraider vanilla rom, will it still work since it is a sense rom with some of the sense apk's removed?

I knpw that the 30 fps cap is debated, but i do know that skyraider is htc vanilla not aosp vanilla, so ypu can use kernels with it.
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No we do not have an FPS cap.

adrynalyne said:
No we do not have an FPS cap.
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I thought this conversation was familiar....thats becayse adryn was commenting about it a month ago....i need a life if i remember that
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Which rom

I know there are a lot of roms available....which one do you gus think is the best as far as not having sense, being stable and 2.2....thanks!
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stangdriverdoug said:
I know there are a lot of roms available....which one do you gus think is the best as far as not having sense, being stable and 2.2....thanks!
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In my opinion I am using Damage Control 3.5 Final... but you have to fully rooted (have unlocked your NAND) for this ROM to install. So if you used toast's method to ROOT you should be fine. I have excellent battery life and havent had any problems witht this ROM. Wifi tether works (I used it yesterday to jailbreak an iPad at bestbuy).
I'm defiantly full nand unlocked.does that rom have sense installed? I use launcher pro. Also hows your ram on that one? On fresh typically have about 175-200 free.
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stangdriverdoug said:
I'm defiantly full nand unlocked.does that rom have sense installed? I use launcher pro. Also hows your ram on that one? On fresh typically have about 175-200 free.
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Yes it does have Sense.. .and Internal Phone storeage is about 300MB before I installed all of my apps...
I use CyanogenMod, the nightly builds (it's gotten a lot faster than RC1 since a few days ago).
Personally there are some aspects of Sense I miss... Mostly the text select for copy/paste, since vanilla Android's implementation sucks, but overall I prefer CyanogenMod more, hands-down. Also, I trend to average around 180-200MB free RAM.
As far as I know, if you don't want any trace of Sense on your phone, CyanogenMod is your only real choice, since it is built from the ground up on Android's sourcecode.
But with any other ROM, Sense can be disabled.
The two I'd recommend would be CyanogenMod or Baked Snacks. I haven't tried Damaged Goods though... I'll have to try it out.
Oh, and just so you know, CyanogenMod currently doesn't have 4G, if that matters to you.
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I'm defiantly full nand unlocked.
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You don't need to be defiant. Nobody's opposing you.
Didn't think that....just proud of it because it was so difficult...lol
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A also how do you access the caynogen nightly builds.....i don't see them anywhere....thanks......
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stangdriverdoug said:
A also how do you access the caynogen nightly builds.....i don't see them anywhere....thanks......
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http://mirror.kanged.net/cm/nightly/supersonic/
for DC 3.5 you can very easily Ban sense in DCONFIG if you dont want it. I ban all sprint apps, sense, and launcher in the config so that all i am left with is launcher pro.
This lets me have my 4g, hdmi, fm radio. Still lets me have 2.2 and gets rid of sense. plus DC is an amazing rom anyway.

60 fps?

Can i get the 60 fps mod on stock rooted 2.2?
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What?
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Idk if there is a 60 fps mod but there is one to break through the 30 fps barrier. I would guess the average fps of a custom rom found on these forums to be about 50 fps.
Highest I've ever got was 56 fps.. Anywhere in 50 is plenty I don't see lag anywhere.
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gmaine02 said:
Highest I've ever got was 56 fps.. Anywhere in 50 is plenty I don't see lag anywhere.
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What rom/kernal did you use to achieve 56? I've tried several different rom and Kernal combinations but they all seem to stay at 54. Im not a weirdo about fps, just curious.
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Can i get the 60 fps mod on stock rooted 2.2?
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Why is it you thought this didn't belong in the Q&A section?
OP just flash a different kernel... I recommend netarchy's.
apristel said:
OP just flash a different kernel... I recommend netarchy's.
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How are you guys testing the FPS?
wings9130 said:
How are you guys testing the FPS?
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Gears for android, fps2d.
Pretty sure it was calkulin rom and netarchy....if your overclocking it will help results. 54 is just as good
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What rom/kernal did you use to achieve 56? I've tried several different rom and Kernal combinations but they all seem to stay at 54. Im not a weirdo about fps, just curious.
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Nets and kings kernels for Sense will definitely get around 50fps and the stock CM6 kernel and Snap kernels deliver the same.. I usually get 53 and I'm using CM6 with Snap v8.2 kernel.
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Off topic, what's everyone's input on the quickest rom/kernal? Cm6?
ijrod21i said:
Off topic, what's everyone's input on the quickest rom/kernal? Cm6?
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Quickest kernel? nets or kings are both extremely fast.
Rom? Probably anything stripped of sense, or CM6 for example.
You probably have a novatech display, from what I understand the FPS fix has to set it at 54 instead of 60 in order to work right. I think Epson's may be able to get a few extra FPS but not enough to make a difference.

Kernals

Sorry guys if this is a bumped thread.. Couldn't find one that helped me at all.
Alright, I would like to know, What is a kernal. Ive flashed almost every rom possible but i havn't done anything with kernals.
Thanks
-Austin
I've heard it stated as "a bridge between hardware and software." They control your processor speed for certain circumstances (screen off) and what voltage your processor gets at certain speeds. It can also come with different things like audio boost and enhanced multitouch capabilities (3+ finger input). Just remember to flash a sense kernel if you're on a sense or senseless ROM, or an aosp kernel for an aosp ROM. I always wipe dalvik cache and cache partition before installing a kernel, just to make sure theres going to be no problems.
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So what your saying is , different kernals do different things twords performance ? And what is cm 7 rc2?
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Fergusonfox7 said:
So what your saying is , different kernals do different things twords performance ? And what is cm 7 rc2?
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Correct, there are some overclocked kernels and some that are stock speeds, plus all of the different tweaks that can be applied. And CM7 RC2 is a ROM. CyanogenMod (ROM name) 7 (version) RC2 (release candidate). Its a pretty popular ROM.
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Lmao no man, im running cm7, love it to death. What is CM7, aosp ? I know its senseless.
So not to jack your thread but its highly related to the question I've been asking today. I understand the description of a kernel above but then what would be the main differences between the kernel and the Rom of a device? Are kernels simply used to modify aspects of the phone such as processor speeds or do they also have something to do with the UI?
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I dont think they have any effect on the UI
So besides just processor speed,what else could a different kernel affect?
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CM7 is AOSP.
Kernels don't affect the UI, they control processor speed mainly, but they can also come with patches that boost audio levels and enable fast charging or trickle-charge (SBC [when you charge your phone normally, it gets to 100% then stops charging regardless of being plugged in and runs off of the battery power til about 90% ish resulting in the infamous dropping 10% battery in like 5 minutes scenario. This mod enables the phone to drop its charging current once it hits 100% instead of turning off completely, maintaining the battery at 100%.]). Pretty nifty stuff
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So the name of that mod is sbc?
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elixir911911 said:
So the name of that mod is sbc?
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Yep.
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Then what would be the best kernel to use with cm7 ?
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Fergusonfox7 said:
Then what would be the best kernel to use with cm7 ?
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I'm not exactly sure about the BEST, cause different things happen to people when using the same kernel, but I've been using chads incredikernel from 3/18/11. No problems with it so far.
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I heard that kernel had smartsss governor ? What's that do .
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Yep, it does. I'm not too familiar with what it does, but I've heard it basically favors lower CPU speeds, saving you some extra battery life. I've yet to notice any lag or slowness from running that governor. I get pretty good battery life with this kernel too, so I figured I'd stick with it.
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Were can i find a downlaod of the most recent download?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848453
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wow hey, Thanks man
No problem at all
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Would calling a phone a car chassis, a ROM the motor and a kernal the driver be a good analogy?

Supersonic w/ sense 3.0.

I'm a noob, so feel free to set me straight. I have tried several of the custom roms and while I enjoy certain aspects (speed, UI, themes, etc.), they all have small quirks or seem incomplete. My question is: Is anyone working on a Supersonic based Rom with a Sense 3.0 experience while fully functional (hdmi, camera,)?
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Yes there are several roms actually Like AllianceROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1120734
some roms are sense 2.1 with 3.0 elements like synergy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144447
virusrom kingdom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1071547
and mikg http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038967
And all are still being supported
All of these roms are fantastic but I prefer synergy then kingdom roms
Battery life might be awful but give it 2 days and the battery life will settle in...
Later there will be custom kernels to increase battery life so much but htc hasnt released their kernel source yet
I've tried them and they have great a great feel. I don't understand why Netflix and Hulu is such a priority w/o working hdmi. Cart before the horse.
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hdmi will come soon. once htc releases the kernel source, somebody will put in HDMwIn mods into the kernel, and you can use the HDMwIn app with it. so that's where hdmi will come from.
same with battery life. havs, smartass, undervolting, and sbc will all come once htc releases the source.
btw: flash synergy. flash the 3.0 carousel rosie in the same recovery session. laugh in the face of danger.
I like Alliance a lot, but I'm back to stock rooted again. Synergy had some issues but not bad. I even tried team xron's 3d port, but it has some serious compatibility issues.
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Can't wait for FULLY functional.
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jadden said:
All of these roms are fantastic but I prefer synergy then kingdom roms
Battery life might be awful but give it 2 days and the battery life will settle in...
Later there will be custom kernels to increase battery life so much but htc hasnt released their kernel source yet
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Battery life is awful= failed statment. The battery life is by no means awful on Synergy. I have consistently gotten a full day on heavy usage. Synergy is probably the best rom I have used on the EVO.
Evo4eva said:
Battery life is awful= failed statment. The battery life is by no means awful on Synergy. I have consistently gotten a full day on heavy usage. Synergy is probably the best rom I have used on the EVO.
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I said battery life might be afwful at first
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Can't wait for FULLY functional.
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minus hdmi, it is fully functional.
seems to me that if your base supports hdmi, adding a sense 3.0 UI would not be an issue. I thought most of the developers were using a shift base. I guess if it were easy someone would have a fully functional Rom by now.
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seems to me that if your base supports hdmi, adding a sense 3.0 UI would not be an issue. I thought most of the developers were using a shift base. I guess if it were easy someone would have a fully functional Rom by now.
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shift does not have hdmi. that's the problem. the really impressive part is that synergy will have garunteed hdmi quickly after source is released.
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minus hdmi, it is fully functional.
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minus hdmi = almost fully functional. See my "cart in front of horse" comment. If you haven't used hdmi out you're missing one of evo's best functions.
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MikeDroid said:
minus hdmi = almost fully functional. See my "cart in front of horse" comment. If you haven't used hdmi out you're missing one of evo's best functions.
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ok lol my bad. missed that part...
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shift does not have hdmi. that's the problem. the really impressive part is that synergy will have garunteed hdmi quickly after source is released.
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I will be looking for it. But I'm confused as to why the are using shift as a base.
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MikeDroid said:
I will be looking for it. But I'm confused as to why the are using shift as a base.
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bcuz shift has gingerbread and sense 2.1 now (luckyyyy). doing it that way was easier than porting a sense 3.0 rom, and we got 4g right off the bat. but it's still a sense 3.0 rom in everything except base and rosie apk (and you can always flash a sense 3.0 rosie)
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bcuz shift has gingerbread and sense 2.1 now (luckyyyy). doing it that way was easier than porting a sense 3.0 rom, and we got 4g right off the bat. but it's still a sense 3.0 rom in everything except base and rosie apk (and you can always flash a sense 3.0 rosie)
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So shift is a better base than supersonic due to sense 2.1?
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bcuz shift has gingerbread and sense 2.1 now (luckyyyy). doing it that way was easier than porting a sense 3.0 rom, and we got 4g right off the bat. but it's still a sense 3.0 rom in everything except base and rosie apk (and you can always flash a sense 3.0 rosie)
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This is not a total true statment. It's very close though. Off the top of my head mail application, additional widgets and additional options are some of the missing items that will never be in a hybrid because it is just to much trouble for not enough gain.
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Moricon said:
This is not a total true statment. It's very close though. Off the top of my head mail application, additional widgets and additional options are some of the missing items that will never be in a hybrid because it is just to much trouble for not enough gain.
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ok thanks i didn't kno this. i wonder what other options there are.....
i've found that virus rom is probably the best if you are used to sense and want all the functions with all the stability. flashed different releases on 2 differents evos and both superior to stock sense and no noticeable issues. - always did full wipe with amon ra. (although i personally stick to AOSP, EVO Deck Gingerbread 1.2 specifically... i flash sense if its a new rom or if i need dialer) there's my 2 cents

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If I were to restore to my stock backup, and tell it to update, will it take my root? I'm kinda thinking about unrooting, just cuz I'd like to go back to stock..... I think. Someone please tell me what will/might happen if I tell it to take the update.
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Why not just download a rooted stock rom? Going back to stock if you unroot gains nothing. Unless you are taking the phone back.
Ok. I was kinda wanting to also make sure it was faster and I could freeze stuff if I needed to. I was using skyraider yesterday, but my speed went way down. But I also think it could've been due to the mods I was using.
Also,what is the fastest sense based ROM? Like uses least amount of RAM and CPU. Can someone point me in the right direction?
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Stock Rom is definately not faster than custom roms its packed with bloat. I've been using bamf forever seems pretty fast to me
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oxlong27 said:
Stock Rom is definately not faster than custom roms its packed with bloat. I've been using bamf forever seems pretty fast to me
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I was using skyraider, but it seemed to eat up memory like a mofo. But, like I said before, I was using some of andybones' mods like the transparent settings.apk and such. Would that cause it to eat up more?
If you are already rooted you can install RMK 2.3.4 build which is official and fast and debloated. Buy titanium backup and freeze what you don't want.
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If you are already rooted you can install RMK 2.3.4 build which is official and fast and debloated. Buy titanium backup and freeze what you don't want.
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I'd love to buy it.... I don't have money.. :/
I'm sure there is some free app freezers on the market
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Just cause one rom didn't please you why not try another. I love my rom & it really fast.
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Well, I tried newts ROMs, and I thought they were a bit buggy. I tried virtuous and didn't like it. I don't like straight sense 3. I like scrolling wallpaper. I liked skyraider because of that. Any other sense 2.1/3 or even a 2.1/3.5 mix would be sick. Being able to hide icons on the lockscreen and ditch pages. Can someone mix those, or is that too hard?
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Well, I tried newts ROMs, and I thought they were a bit buggy. I tried virtuous and didn't like it. I don't like straight sense 3. I like scrolling wallpaper. I liked skyraider because of that. Any other sense 2.1/3 or even a 2.1/3.5 mix would be sick. Being able to hide icons on the lockscreen and ditch pages. Can someone mix those, or is that too hard?
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GingerBangSense is sense 2.1 and has a 3.0 patch that adds some sense 3.0 features.
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GingerBangSense is sense 2.1 and has a 3.0 patch that adds some sense 3.0 features.
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+1 on this gingerbang sense is an awesome rom
I like gingerbang, newt is working on some new sense 3.5 stuff over on the mik mik as well though and I hear its a speed demon for sense...
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I like gingerbang, newt is working on some new sense 3.5 stuff over on the mik mik as well though and I hear its a speed demon for sense...
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I'll wait for someone else. The way he left pit a sour taste in my mouth. I'll recommend his roms to guys who really want sense. But yea..
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But like I said, I'd love to see a 2.1/3.5 mix. That'd be sick.
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