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[Q] run ota while rooted

Any consequences other than losing root? I'm not too concerned about getting it right this second since I know these devs at xda will cook somethin nice up in a few days. Just want to know my options. THanks
EDIT: im running dc 3.2.3 (2.1)

It should just flash the new ROM. Yes, you'll lose root and it probably replaces the bootloader so you can't boot into recovery either, but it should be just another stock phone after that.

So I am rooted and go to load up the update and it puts me in the spot with the android guy and the /!\ what gives...

yourfriendwayned said:
So I am rooted and go to load up the update and it puts me in the spot with the android guy and the /!\ what gives...
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I'm in the same boat dude. I currently have UnrEVOked 3 on my phone. My guess is that is whats F'n it up

SantinoInc said:
I'm in the same boat dude. I currently have UnrEVOked 3 on my phone. My guess is that is whats F'n it up
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hmmm yup I have the same root method - great I thought it would just write over...

Well we all know by now once your phone is rooted you cannot do any ota, you are much better of waiting a day or two to get the rooted version from one of the dev.
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Im pretty bummed, also in the same boat.

jahnile said:
Well we all know by now once your phone is rooted you cannot do any ota, you are much better of waiting a day or two to get the rooted version from one of the dev.
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some of us dont care about loosing root, and as far as i knew i could at anytime upgrade to something sprint put out and all that would happen is i would loose root.

I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3

SantinoInc said:
I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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It doesn't matter what you did to root it, you can un-root the same way

I don't want to ruu and erase everything either...

yourfriendwayned said:
I don't want to ruu and erase everything either...
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Well you just want the WORLD now don't you?

SantinoInc said:
Well you just want the WORLD now don't you?
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hmm is this a trick... do I have to trade my soul?

SantinoInc said:
I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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This is my position aswell. Im sure i read pleanty of people saying unrevoked would have no effect on future updates, and the worst that would happen was loosing root.

eventually all the developers will migrate to froyo as a base so you can wait or you can unroot like me and install the OTA with no prob. When I installed the OTA it kinda installed like a regular app...did not go to bootloader or nothing like that. Then it just rebooted into froyo...did not lose anything such as installed apps or user data etc. It's all good eitherway you choose in my opinion. Keep root and wait...Unroot/OTA and wait...it will only be a short time like almost already and full froyo with root is a done deal...

cardiox said:
eventually all the developers will migrate to froyo as a base so you can wait or you can unroot like me and install the OTA with no prob. When I installed the OTA it kinda installed like a regular app...did not go to bootloader or nothing like that. Then it just rebooted into froyo...did not lose anything such as installed apps or user data etc. It's all good eitherway you choose in my opinion. Keep root and wait...Unroot/OTA and wait...it will only be a short time like almost already and full froyo with root is a done deal...
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Can you please list your steps for unrooting? I want to add the ota and reroot later.
Thanks,
Ian B

I had the june update so i was 1.47 but either way this is the program to use...
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g-roms-hacks/19278-how-unroot-return-stock.html
This in my opinion is the way to go...make sure you use the 1.47 one and you are good to go...then get the OTA FROYO...I did it this way.

I had Unrevoked3 on mine for wifi tethering..and did the manual leaked update (update.zip on sd card etc) and it worked just peachy, if you wanted to go that route. I did lost my root but none of my data (even superusers is still installed lol)
From what I read there isnt much of a difference between the .3 and .6 versions anyway
Maybe if you did that, then waited to see what HTC comes up with for us "early adopters" to get us up to speed lol

[Q] Help an idiot? Please

Guys, I'm lost. I search. I read (my eyes are bleeding), but unfortunatley I don't understand the terms, so it's all greek to me.
I have a stock EVO with 2.1 The only thing I have done is added Unrevoked3 to bring back my ability to use wifi tethering.
I would now like to get to 2.2. I've been saying "NO" to the OTA update because I know nobody has rooted 2.2 yet.
That said, it seems that because I haven't upgraded I can pull root, apply 2.2, keep root and keep wifi tethering.
I'm wondering if someone can provide step by step instructions on how to do this given a stock phone with only unrevoked3 on it so far.
I know - search... I'm so lost though. I want to be as close to stock as possible when I'm finished, and ideally I'd like to be able to go back and apply the stock OTA or HTC update if I want to, even if I lose root.
Can anyone help? Step by step?
Thank you!

If you rooted 2.1, then you can upgrade to 2.2.
There are probably 10 rooted ROMs in this forum now. Pick the one you like and flash it. Just be sure it says it is rooted.

You must be FULLY ROOTED for most roms on here. Unrevoked3 is not a full root.
Look into Simpleroot to get a full NAND unlock and root and then you can boot into the custom recovery and flash as you please.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411

Try using this method and flashing a custom rom should give you root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745420

Sounds like I'm hearing 2 things. Do I need to do a full root (BTW, I'm on an old mac, so I can't use simpleroot), or can I do as xHausx says and just install over the unrevoked3 "root"?
Recommendations on the ROM's closest to stock Froyo?
Will I be updating the radio at the same time?
Sorry - newbie

Go with xHausx's method then.
I'm running Baked Snack 1.3, it's a solid ROM. You'll be playing with many roms over the next couple weeks.

Here's a stock rooted 2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743352

Liamfm said:
Recommendations on the ROM's closest to stock Froyo?
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Closest to stock would be the UPDATED 8/7 HTC Froyo 2.2, *FINAL*, v3.26.651.6 (Rooted) DeOdexed RevE.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743781

Okay, so I am downloading the one Grouse recommended. At the same time I'm doing a backup via rom manager and have done a titanium backup already.
From here is it as easy as transferring the .zip file to my Sd card and then loading it via rom manager???
Again, remember I'm on unrevoked3 and everything else is stock.
Will I have to update any radios, etc?
Thanks so much - what a wonderful resource this site is.

Liamfm said:
Okay, so I am downloading the one Grouse recommended. At the same time I'm doing a backup via rom manager and have done a titanium backup already.
From here is it as easy as transferring the .zip file to my Sd card and then loading it via rom manager???
Again, remember I'm on unrevoked3 and everything else is stock.
Will I have to update any radios, etc?
Thanks so much - what a wonderful resource this site is.
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this will not work. you need to have "full" root and be NAND unlocked to flash roms. Unrevoked3 is not full root as stated above. you may however try UnrevokedForever. just find the appropriate thread and follow the instructions if it is compatible with a mac, dont remember right off the top of my head.

Okay, t3project... explain the thread in post #4 here.
I'm learning here - not trying to be a smartass. It just looks like it WILL work... is this not the case?

Okay, so I've updated with no problems. I'm on Froyo now, I retained wifi tether. All is good with the world.
Except Pandora. I get the poor quality and the closing when nav or phone call.
Is there a fix for this yet? Also, now that I'm running a custom ROM I would assume I can't take any updates that google would push out. I can still update apps, but if this problem with Pandora is with the OS am I screwed?
Thanks,

Liamfm said:
Can someone point me in the direction of the radio and wimax radio I need as well? I'm downloading wimax26023 right now, is that right? What's the latest and greatest radio I should use?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
I didn't use unrevoked so I am not really sure if the method I linked to earlier works or not, but it definitely wouldn't hurt to use one of the other methods just to make sure you have full root and the NAND unlocked.

Okay, so I've updated with no problems. I'm on Froyo now, I retained wifi tether. All is good with the world.
Except Pandora. I get the poor quality and the closing when nav or phone call.
Is there a fix for this yet? Also, now that I'm running a custom ROM I would assume I can't take any updates that google would push out. I can still update apps, but if this problem with Pandora is with the OS am I screwed?
Thanks,

Liamfm said:
Okay, so I've updated with no problems. I'm on Froyo now, I retained wifi tether. All is good with the world.
Except Pandora. I get the poor quality and the closing when nav or phone call.
Is there a fix for this yet? Also, now that I'm running a custom ROM I would assume I can't take any updates that google would push out. I can still update apps, but if this problem with Pandora is with the OS am I screwed?
Thanks,
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You've got to use the search button man... Theres a fix for it out there somewhere

I've found the "fix" even before I tried to install 2.2. The problem is that I don't have a PC to work off of.
Can this editing of the file be done by transferring the file via BT to my mac, editing in text editor, and sending back via BT???
Thanks

Liamfm said:
Okay, t3project... explain the thread in post #4 here.
I'm learning here - not trying to be a smartass. It just looks like it WILL work... is this not the case?
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Probably with a stock rooted rom but if you want to do other things such as overclock, uncap the fps, custom kernels and whatnot you'll need to be full nand unlocked.

[Q] on my 3rd evo...

OK so I'm on my 3rd htc evo 4g since its release, 2nd in the last 2 weeks. something keeps happening every i root it. i used the 3step root the first time i rooted, i then proceeded to use the autoroot that's currently out the last time, the phone constantly reboots itself non stop and feels warm to the touch, really warm. does anyone have an idea on what methods i should take to root my phone and what roms to use.
the last 2 times my phone broke down was running on myns 2.2 rsl4 or w/e.
i placed this is devs because it really has alot to do with the dev of this phone, the guy at sprint just gave me my phone back and he said its been fine for 2 days with original software on it...
please move if you feel it needs to be moved.

I'm confused, is your phone already rooted or not? If your phone is overheating and rebooting I'd be willing to bet it's your KERNEL that's causing issues, not your rooting method

Yeah and I'm confused why you would be needing the new phones unless you had a real hardware issue?

first phone was rooted, it went haywire so i took it in, kid there flashed original software, phone was STILL restarting every time i played a game or w/e. he gave me new phone, rooted it, flashed myns through rom manager, restarted alot, tried new kernal, restarted ALOT more, took it, flashed original software and took root away again, new phone, currently just got it 2 hours ago....any set up ideas now?

b_allert said:
first phone was rooted, it went haywire so i took it in, kid there flashed original software, phone was STILL restarting every time i played a game or w/e. he gave me new phone, rooted it, flashed myns through rom manager, restarted alot, tried new kernal, restarted ALOT more, took it, flashed original software and took root away again, new phone, currently just got it 2 hours ago....any set up ideas now?
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Why don't you use it for a few days without rooting it - see what you experience? You also didn't mention what HW version and HBoot you had.... there are a lot of factors which could potentially cause something like this...
But I think the first thing you should do is do nothing. Use it without rooting and see what happens.

buy a blackberry haha

I resent people that attempt to trade in phones at their mistakes when it's just pure laziness.
I'm glad you're at least asking rather than repeating this process.
1st use Unrevoked3 to root.
Now, you should download a stock ROM to prevent from having to go into the store each time.
I'd recommend actually using this over a stock ROM anyways (it's a modified stock to run better).
And after that just browse through many ROM's, as far as kernel's I'd recommend trying Ziggy's.

isawred53 said:
buy a blackberry haha
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+1
Sounds like a SD format bootloop or your tryin to flash to much at one time. Also remember some new find take a lot of time to load giving the appearance of a bootloop

thanks ill do that.
info.
hardware-0003
baseband-2.15.00.07.28
build-3.26.651.6 cl218634 release-keys
software-3.26.651.6
pri-1.90_003
prl-60674

b_allert said:
thanks ill do that.
info.
hardware-0003
baseband-2.15.00.07.28
build-3.26.651.6 cl218634 release-keys
software-3.26.651.6
pri-1.90_003
prl-60674
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You still don't have an hboot listed

Neotelos_com said:
I resent people that attempt to trade in phones at their mistakes when it's just pure laziness.
I'm glad you're at least asking rather than repeating this process.
1st use Unrevoked3 to root.
Now, you should download a stock ROM to prevent from having to go into the store each time.
I'd recommend actually using this over a stock ROM anyways (it's a modified stock to run better).
And after that just browse through many ROM's, as far as kernel's I'd recommend trying Ziggy's.
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it wasnt something i never tried fixing, i flashed over the opriginal software myself and then re rooted, i tried plenty of kernals and roms i even debated buying a new battery. i posted plenty of help signs, no one came, so i took to the store, trust me, i WANT to learn about this phone i really do, however being a full time student and working, i have very little time to learn in-depth
about this phone.

khshapiro said:
You still don't have an hboot listed
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i just had to check, 2.10

b_allert said:
i just had to check, 2.10
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I think I see your problem, you need to downgrade your PRI, the PRI is fine if you don't want to use any new kernels, but with custom Kernels you need the lower one. I had a lot of problems until I downgraded.

bigupurself7 said:
I think I see your problem, you need to downgrade your PRI, the PRI is fine if you don't want to use any new kernels, but with custom Kernels you need the lower one. I had a lot of problems until I downgraded.
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and is it easy or hard to downgrade it?

I'm on my 6th since its release
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You don't need to downgrade your hboot, the only reason for that is to get an engineering hboot for fastboot commands and modifications, if your just flashing roms you don't need to do that. Make sure your following unrevoked very carefully, and before flashing any rom make sure you wipe eveyrthing, flash amon ra recovery and the option to wipe all is easy. So wipe all data, flash new rom and wait for reboot, takes a while now on first reboot. Also use your phone for a week to make sure its not hardware related before you root and flash.

b_allert said:
and is it easy or hard to downgrade it?
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Just as easy as flashing a rom or kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
I would also downgrade nv to 1.77
Everything else is fine though.

Third one, huh? I'm almost sure it's something that you're doing if it's a reoccurring problem.

b_allert said:
and is it easy or hard to downgrade it?
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You don't need to downgrade your PRI. I am on the same PRI as you (1.90_003) as well as hardware version (HW 003) and I have no issues.

Use the Z... somthing like that for rooting it and i use myns rom nothing is wrong with it , B.O.S sacs roms are very nicly made to

[Q] Need help rooting!

Hey xda community,
my friend recently got an evo and he asked me if i can root it for him.
I have a rooted evo too but i have a different version. he got the new 0004 version of the evo while mines is the 0003. i rooted mine using that whole rageagasintthecage method, and idk if i can root his like that.
my question is what is the best way to achieve full root on the new 0004 versions.
I know google could probably answer this but i rather have someone from the community help me out.

The most popular way is via unrevoked. Unless something has changed, it should root all versions.

plainjane said:
The most popular way is via unrevoked. Unless something has changed, it should root all versions.
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Yea pretty sure UNrevoked will do the job.
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thanks for the replies peeps, you think this guide is good?
http://htcevorooting.x10.mx/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_root_your_current_EVO_4G_with_Unrevoked3

anyone? is it a good guide?

http://unrevoked.com/#evo
Go there, download the install
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install
Go there and install the hboot drivers
Lastly, install htc sync, then uninstall the program. On your phone go into settings > applications > development > check usb debugging.
After you've done that, connect your phone to your pc in charge only, then run the unrevoked reflash package. It'll take about 5 minutes and reboot about 2 times, let it run the full course.

I plan on removing unrevoked so that I can receive the latest update and then re-root. I only use wireless tethering and trying to get OpenVPN. Other than that, I don't use other root capabilities. Is this a bad idea (updating OTA)?

You can just update your rom, flash to a sense rom, update your prl and flash back. I don't recommend accepting the official OTA can you can lose your root.

I have just successfully rooted my evo4g just now. Before I can flash a rom, what are the other things I must do? (nand unlock/radio/pri/prl/etc)??
Thanks,
Hplaya

himalayasplaya said:
I have just successfully rooted my evo4g just now. Before I can flash a rom, what are the other things I must do? (nand unlock/radio/pri/prl/etc)??
Thanks,
Hplaya
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Well you should be nand unlocked if you used unrevoked. Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485 to get the radio, ect, you can use the combo flash if you like. Just make sure to backup your current rom, then flash,

himalayasplaya said:
I have just successfully rooted my evo4g just now. Before I can flash a rom, what are the other things I must do? (nand unlock/radio/pri/prl/etc)??
Thanks,
Hplaya
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Definitely do a backup, and then move the backup to your computer for safekeeping. The person before me provided the correct link for the radio upgrades.
After that, you should be set to flash. (Assuming you've picked out a ROM that suites your wants and needs.)

xtshadowxt said:
thanks for the replies peeps, you think this guide is good?
http://htcevorooting.x10.mx/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_root_your_current_EVO_4G_with_Unrevoked3
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The main page of that website lists more options regarding rooting, backing up, flashing, etc. and I found it to be very helpful when I went through all the steps.

Just use this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
works like a champ for all hardware versions & you'll be rooted in 30 minutes.

totalanonymity said:
Definitely do a backup, and then move the backup to your computer for safekeeping. The person before me provided the correct link for the radio upgrades.
After that, you should be set to flash. (Assuming you've picked out a ROM that suites your wants and needs.)
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I was told that unrevoked 3 doesnt nand unlock phones?? are you sure I can jump right into flashing?
Also how do I perform a back up for my phone??
Thanks for helping out this n00b
Hplaya

himalayasplaya said:
I was told that unrevoked 3 doesnt nand unlock phones?? are you sure I can jump right into flashing?
Also how do I perform a back up for my phone??
Thanks for helping out this n00b
Hplaya
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See my post on the front page. but unrevoked does give you nand unlock. The earlier versions didn't, which you had to flash the unforever zip to get the nand unlock, but its been merged into the flash.
And after you root, you hold vol+down while turning the phone on, and you go to the bootloader, select recovery. You'll be on clockworkmod recovery, then you just select backup from backup/restore menu.

himalayasplaya said:
I was told that unrevoked 3 doesnt nand unlock phones?? are you sure I can jump right into flashing?
Also how do I perform a back up for my phone??
Thanks for helping out this n00b
Hplaya
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That's how I rooted!

Thanks TR. I'll try that and see how it goes. I'm ultimately trying to get OpenVPN running and having problems getting the tun.ko file for my build. I don't have linux to compile my own for 2.6.32.15-ge2fb08e, so I thought I'd try to update in the interim.‎

since im rooted and my phone has been backed up now...
is there a way to remove sprints bloatware? or would that only be through flashing?
I'm still a n00b to android flashing so i will be reading your guides...what other advantages can I expect from flashing to a new rom? (speed, battery life,etc)

himalayasplaya said:
since im rooted and my phone has been backed up now...
is there a way to remove sprints bloatware? or would that only be through flashing?
I'm still a n00b to android flashing so i will be reading your guides...what other advantages can I expect from flashing to a new rom? (speed, battery life,etc)
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You can remove the sprint apps by going into titanium backup, And depending on the rom, you will get speed, and kernels help with battery life. Generally, AOSP is faster cuz it doesn't have all the sprint crap in it.

any links to the next process after rooting/nand unlocked is done? I've read about people losing their 4g keys? how do i ensure this wont happen?
kernel/radio/rom flashing? anyone got rom recommendations?

[Q] Please help. Custom ROMs constantly rebooting

ok let me just preface this by saying that i am a complete moron and didn't make a nandroid back up. i am new to this stuf obviously and didnt research enough before i dove in.
also this is referring to the htc on v cdma on virgin mobile.
so i was able to successfully unlock and root the phone. bootloader says unlocked and root checker from the market said i had full root access.
i installed the team win recovery on the phone. the first rom i flashed was the cdma pacman rom from here. i did a full wipe and flashed the rom, and then flashed the kernel from said rom via fastboot on my pc. upon firing it up, it boots and gets through the boot animation and into the OS. but after about 10 seconds my service shuts off (it shows a little R above my reception bars) and the phone reboots. just does this over and over.
so i thought maybe it was the ROM so i tried AOKP jellybean. same issue.
any idea what i did wrong here? thanks in advance.

lol, i had the same problem as you. It happens because of the OTA update or radio version, try using this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018518
I just followed Solution 1 and it worked for me, I was originally on CWM but moved to TWRP cause it's more convenient.
After using the RUU you'll be back to bone-stock and will have to unlock the bootloader and all that fun stuff all over again that's if you use solution 1; however, atleast you'll be able to get the stock-rom backed up again for just-in-case. Skip OTA updates, and then proceed to recover and then start rom flashing/fastbooting kernel and all that fun stuff.

reID_entify said:
lol, i had the same problem as you. It happens because of the OTA update or radio version, try using this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018518
I just followed Solution 1 and it worked for me, I was originally on CWM but moved to TWRP cause it's more convenient.
After using the RUU you'll be back to bone-stock and will have to unlock the bootloader and all that fun stuff all over again that's if you use solution 1; however, atleast you'll be able to get the stock-rom backed up again for just-in-case. Skip OTA updates, and then proceed to recover and then start rom flashing/fastbooting kernel and all that fun stuff.
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awesome thank you so much. i am slightly confused on which one to download though. i am assuming it is this one here, the only one i see with sprint/vm branding. RUU​_PRIMO​_C_ICS​_40A​_Sprint​_WWE​_VM_1​.08.652​.6_Radio​_1.00​... i'll give it a shot

yea that's the one, it's an executable file, just make sure you follow the directions for RUU.

reID_entify said:
yea that's the one, it's an executable file, just make sure you follow the directions for RUU.
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worked like a charm! thanks so much!!!
now to try putting a new rom on here again lol....

For future references I suggest not updating the OTA since its known to cause a lot of problems due to radio discrepancies. I'm glad you were able to fix yours though.
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