[Q] Need help rooting! - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey xda community,
my friend recently got an evo and he asked me if i can root it for him.
I have a rooted evo too but i have a different version. he got the new 0004 version of the evo while mines is the 0003. i rooted mine using that whole rageagasintthecage method, and idk if i can root his like that.
my question is what is the best way to achieve full root on the new 0004 versions.
I know google could probably answer this but i rather have someone from the community help me out.

The most popular way is via unrevoked. Unless something has changed, it should root all versions.

plainjane said:
The most popular way is via unrevoked. Unless something has changed, it should root all versions.
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Yea pretty sure UNrevoked will do the job.
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thanks for the replies peeps, you think this guide is good?
http://htcevorooting.x10.mx/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_root_your_current_EVO_4G_with_Unrevoked3

anyone? is it a good guide?

http://unrevoked.com/#evo
Go there, download the install
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install
Go there and install the hboot drivers
Lastly, install htc sync, then uninstall the program. On your phone go into settings > applications > development > check usb debugging.
After you've done that, connect your phone to your pc in charge only, then run the unrevoked reflash package. It'll take about 5 minutes and reboot about 2 times, let it run the full course.

I plan on removing unrevoked so that I can receive the latest update and then re-root. I only use wireless tethering and trying to get OpenVPN. Other than that, I don't use other root capabilities. Is this a bad idea (updating OTA)?

You can just update your rom, flash to a sense rom, update your prl and flash back. I don't recommend accepting the official OTA can you can lose your root.

I have just successfully rooted my evo4g just now. Before I can flash a rom, what are the other things I must do? (nand unlock/radio/pri/prl/etc)??
Thanks,
Hplaya

himalayasplaya said:
I have just successfully rooted my evo4g just now. Before I can flash a rom, what are the other things I must do? (nand unlock/radio/pri/prl/etc)??
Thanks,
Hplaya
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Well you should be nand unlocked if you used unrevoked. Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485 to get the radio, ect, you can use the combo flash if you like. Just make sure to backup your current rom, then flash,

himalayasplaya said:
I have just successfully rooted my evo4g just now. Before I can flash a rom, what are the other things I must do? (nand unlock/radio/pri/prl/etc)??
Thanks,
Hplaya
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Definitely do a backup, and then move the backup to your computer for safekeeping. The person before me provided the correct link for the radio upgrades.
After that, you should be set to flash. (Assuming you've picked out a ROM that suites your wants and needs.)

xtshadowxt said:
thanks for the replies peeps, you think this guide is good?
http://htcevorooting.x10.mx/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_root_your_current_EVO_4G_with_Unrevoked3
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The main page of that website lists more options regarding rooting, backing up, flashing, etc. and I found it to be very helpful when I went through all the steps.

Just use this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838448
works like a champ for all hardware versions & you'll be rooted in 30 minutes.

totalanonymity said:
Definitely do a backup, and then move the backup to your computer for safekeeping. The person before me provided the correct link for the radio upgrades.
After that, you should be set to flash. (Assuming you've picked out a ROM that suites your wants and needs.)
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I was told that unrevoked 3 doesnt nand unlock phones?? are you sure I can jump right into flashing?
Also how do I perform a back up for my phone??
Thanks for helping out this n00b
Hplaya

himalayasplaya said:
I was told that unrevoked 3 doesnt nand unlock phones?? are you sure I can jump right into flashing?
Also how do I perform a back up for my phone??
Thanks for helping out this n00b
Hplaya
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See my post on the front page. but unrevoked does give you nand unlock. The earlier versions didn't, which you had to flash the unforever zip to get the nand unlock, but its been merged into the flash.
And after you root, you hold vol+down while turning the phone on, and you go to the bootloader, select recovery. You'll be on clockworkmod recovery, then you just select backup from backup/restore menu.

himalayasplaya said:
I was told that unrevoked 3 doesnt nand unlock phones?? are you sure I can jump right into flashing?
Also how do I perform a back up for my phone??
Thanks for helping out this n00b
Hplaya
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That's how I rooted!

Thanks TR. I'll try that and see how it goes. I'm ultimately trying to get OpenVPN running and having problems getting the tun.ko file for my build. I don't have linux to compile my own for 2.6.32.15-ge2fb08e, so I thought I'd try to update in the interim.‎

since im rooted and my phone has been backed up now...
is there a way to remove sprints bloatware? or would that only be through flashing?
I'm still a n00b to android flashing so i will be reading your guides...what other advantages can I expect from flashing to a new rom? (speed, battery life,etc)

himalayasplaya said:
since im rooted and my phone has been backed up now...
is there a way to remove sprints bloatware? or would that only be through flashing?
I'm still a n00b to android flashing so i will be reading your guides...what other advantages can I expect from flashing to a new rom? (speed, battery life,etc)
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You can remove the sprint apps by going into titanium backup, And depending on the rom, you will get speed, and kernels help with battery life. Generally, AOSP is faster cuz it doesn't have all the sprint crap in it.

any links to the next process after rooting/nand unlocked is done? I've read about people losing their 4g keys? how do i ensure this wont happen?
kernel/radio/rom flashing? anyone got rom recommendations?

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help unlocking NAND after using unrevoked

I'm a noob at Android hacking and wanted to root my evo After a few questions to one of my friends, he pointed me towards unrevoked3. Now am stuckand don't now how to unlock the NAND and its driving me crazy. I want to be able to use roms such as damage control. Please help. Im compleatly lost.
I would ask your friend, don't think many here use unrevoked, we used the complete method from toast.
Also read through the posts in the Dev wiki.
I just rooted and unlocked last night...had a few issues. Should be around most of the evening. Where are you and what did you do?
Last night I used that unrEVOked3.1 software and then moved on to unlocking. You will need to ADB installed to do it the way I did it. This is a component of the Andoroid SDK. (You can find that from the google android site.) It is complicated and I got through it because I am old enough to have actually worked in DOS back when there were dinosaurs.
It's not impossible, there are instructions out there...but it will take effort. Hate to point you away from xda...'cause LOTs of good work here...but I followed the unlockr.com tutorial for unlocking nand.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/07/20/how-to-unlock-nand-on-the-htc-evo-4g/
There were a couple issues where su couldn't find the sdcard. I even did lists and saw it, but the commands failed at start. Took a mix of unplugging usb and replugging and mounting and just charging....not sure what fixed it...LOL. But I got the commands to run eventually.
dude741 said:
I'm a noob at Android hacking and wanted to root my evo After a few questions to one of my friends, he pointed me towards unrevoked3. Now am stuckand don't now how to unlock the NAND and its driving me crazy. I want to be able to use roms such as damage control. Please help. Im compleatly lost.
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toast's part 2 FTW
ok i got the evo in dec. and had it rooted using unrevoked3 i just got in to flashing roms using rom manger easy but i want to try cm7 and i dont think i can use rom manger for that one if iam wrong let me know and i just started learning about nand seems like a big headache i looked at the unlockr still just not sure about it i dont want to brick my phone if anyone has any advice help me out
ric87 said:
ok i got the evo in dec. and had it rooted using unrevoked3 i just got in to flashing roms using rom manger easy but i want to try cm7 and i dont think i can use rom manger for that one if iam wrong let me know and i just started learning about nand seems like a big headache i looked at the unlockr still just not sure about it i dont want to brick my phone if anyone has any advice help me out
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You can use Rom Manager app to install CM7. In fact Rom Manager is included in CM7 Rom. Honestly I think Rom Manager was made mostly for CM Roms. Make sure you wipe data, cache and davlik before going to CM from another Rom. I never flash through Rom Manager app and always flash manually from recovery, but a lot of people do flash through Rom Manager. Good Luck.
Also just to clarify(someone correct me if I'm wrong),
I think if you used the unrevoked3 app from this thread Unrevoked to root your EVO that it also nand unlocks it too. The thread doesn't state it, but the app has been updated to work with the latest hboot, so it should work on all Evo's right now. I could be wrong, but I have used the latest Unrevoked to root all of the Evo's that I have rooted and have never had any problems with backups, restores and flashing Rom's.
and i got titanium back up for my apps but not sure how to use it i got idea of hot to use it and how can tell if my nand is unlocked or not
ric87 said:
and i got titanium back up for my apps but not sure how to use it i got idea of hot to use it and how can tell if my nand is unlocked or not
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power off your phone then go into bootloader using power+vol. down..if you see s-off at the top the youre unlocked
If you are s-off, but still having problems with some root apps, you need to install busybox. You can do this from the "problems?" button in the bottom right of the overview screen in Titanium Backup. Then choose "get busybox".
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HELP
ok so i got gb by deck but he say's in the thread that you have to flash a kernal iam not sure if the rom come's with one if it doesn't anyone have any suggestions that would go good with the rom battery is a big thing for me i dont like having to carry my chager around with me every where i go i would've posted this on the page with the rom but xda saying that i haven't posted enough to post anything there yet and yall have been really helpfull with my ignorance and i did find out that my nand was already unlocked thinks to yall
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1078558
thats the ulr i copied from my adderss bar for the rom someone help

[Q] run ota while rooted

Any consequences other than losing root? I'm not too concerned about getting it right this second since I know these devs at xda will cook somethin nice up in a few days. Just want to know my options. THanks
EDIT: im running dc 3.2.3 (2.1)
It should just flash the new ROM. Yes, you'll lose root and it probably replaces the bootloader so you can't boot into recovery either, but it should be just another stock phone after that.
So I am rooted and go to load up the update and it puts me in the spot with the android guy and the /!\ what gives...
yourfriendwayned said:
So I am rooted and go to load up the update and it puts me in the spot with the android guy and the /!\ what gives...
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I'm in the same boat dude. I currently have UnrEVOked 3 on my phone. My guess is that is whats F'n it up
SantinoInc said:
I'm in the same boat dude. I currently have UnrEVOked 3 on my phone. My guess is that is whats F'n it up
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hmmm yup I have the same root method - great I thought it would just write over...
Well we all know by now once your phone is rooted you cannot do any ota, you are much better of waiting a day or two to get the rooted version from one of the dev.
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Im pretty bummed, also in the same boat.
jahnile said:
Well we all know by now once your phone is rooted you cannot do any ota, you are much better of waiting a day or two to get the rooted version from one of the dev.
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some of us dont care about loosing root, and as far as i knew i could at anytime upgrade to something sprint put out and all that would happen is i would loose root.
I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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It doesn't matter what you did to root it, you can un-root the same way
I don't want to ruu and erase everything either...
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I don't want to ruu and erase everything either...
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Well you just want the WORLD now don't you?
SantinoInc said:
Well you just want the WORLD now don't you?
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hmm is this a trick... do I have to trade my soul?
SantinoInc said:
I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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This is my position aswell. Im sure i read pleanty of people saying unrevoked would have no effect on future updates, and the worst that would happen was loosing root.
eventually all the developers will migrate to froyo as a base so you can wait or you can unroot like me and install the OTA with no prob. When I installed the OTA it kinda installed like a regular app...did not go to bootloader or nothing like that. Then it just rebooted into froyo...did not lose anything such as installed apps or user data etc. It's all good eitherway you choose in my opinion. Keep root and wait...Unroot/OTA and wait...it will only be a short time like almost already and full froyo with root is a done deal...
cardiox said:
eventually all the developers will migrate to froyo as a base so you can wait or you can unroot like me and install the OTA with no prob. When I installed the OTA it kinda installed like a regular app...did not go to bootloader or nothing like that. Then it just rebooted into froyo...did not lose anything such as installed apps or user data etc. It's all good eitherway you choose in my opinion. Keep root and wait...Unroot/OTA and wait...it will only be a short time like almost already and full froyo with root is a done deal...
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Can you please list your steps for unrooting? I want to add the ota and reroot later.
Thanks,
Ian B
I had the june update so i was 1.47 but either way this is the program to use...
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g-roms-hacks/19278-how-unroot-return-stock.html
This in my opinion is the way to go...make sure you use the 1.47 one and you are good to go...then get the OTA FROYO...I did it this way.
I had Unrevoked3 on mine for wifi tethering..and did the manual leaked update (update.zip on sd card etc) and it worked just peachy, if you wanted to go that route. I did lost my root but none of my data (even superusers is still installed lol)
From what I read there isnt much of a difference between the .3 and .6 versions anyway
Maybe if you did that, then waited to see what HTC comes up with for us "early adopters" to get us up to speed lol

[Q] Help an idiot? Please

Guys, I'm lost. I search. I read (my eyes are bleeding), but unfortunatley I don't understand the terms, so it's all greek to me.
I have a stock EVO with 2.1 The only thing I have done is added Unrevoked3 to bring back my ability to use wifi tethering.
I would now like to get to 2.2. I've been saying "NO" to the OTA update because I know nobody has rooted 2.2 yet.
That said, it seems that because I haven't upgraded I can pull root, apply 2.2, keep root and keep wifi tethering.
I'm wondering if someone can provide step by step instructions on how to do this given a stock phone with only unrevoked3 on it so far.
I know - search... I'm so lost though. I want to be as close to stock as possible when I'm finished, and ideally I'd like to be able to go back and apply the stock OTA or HTC update if I want to, even if I lose root.
Can anyone help? Step by step?
Thank you!
If you rooted 2.1, then you can upgrade to 2.2.
There are probably 10 rooted ROMs in this forum now. Pick the one you like and flash it. Just be sure it says it is rooted.
You must be FULLY ROOTED for most roms on here. Unrevoked3 is not a full root.
Look into Simpleroot to get a full NAND unlock and root and then you can boot into the custom recovery and flash as you please.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411
Try using this method and flashing a custom rom should give you root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745420
Sounds like I'm hearing 2 things. Do I need to do a full root (BTW, I'm on an old mac, so I can't use simpleroot), or can I do as xHausx says and just install over the unrevoked3 "root"?
Recommendations on the ROM's closest to stock Froyo?
Will I be updating the radio at the same time?
Sorry - newbie
Go with xHausx's method then.
I'm running Baked Snack 1.3, it's a solid ROM. You'll be playing with many roms over the next couple weeks.
Here's a stock rooted 2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743352
Liamfm said:
Recommendations on the ROM's closest to stock Froyo?
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Closest to stock would be the UPDATED 8/7 HTC Froyo 2.2, *FINAL*, v3.26.651.6 (Rooted) DeOdexed RevE.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743781
Okay, so I am downloading the one Grouse recommended. At the same time I'm doing a backup via rom manager and have done a titanium backup already.
From here is it as easy as transferring the .zip file to my Sd card and then loading it via rom manager???
Again, remember I'm on unrevoked3 and everything else is stock.
Will I have to update any radios, etc?
Thanks so much - what a wonderful resource this site is.
Liamfm said:
Okay, so I am downloading the one Grouse recommended. At the same time I'm doing a backup via rom manager and have done a titanium backup already.
From here is it as easy as transferring the .zip file to my Sd card and then loading it via rom manager???
Again, remember I'm on unrevoked3 and everything else is stock.
Will I have to update any radios, etc?
Thanks so much - what a wonderful resource this site is.
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this will not work. you need to have "full" root and be NAND unlocked to flash roms. Unrevoked3 is not full root as stated above. you may however try UnrevokedForever. just find the appropriate thread and follow the instructions if it is compatible with a mac, dont remember right off the top of my head.
Okay, t3project... explain the thread in post #4 here.
I'm learning here - not trying to be a smartass. It just looks like it WILL work... is this not the case?
Okay, so I've updated with no problems. I'm on Froyo now, I retained wifi tether. All is good with the world.
Except Pandora. I get the poor quality and the closing when nav or phone call.
Is there a fix for this yet? Also, now that I'm running a custom ROM I would assume I can't take any updates that google would push out. I can still update apps, but if this problem with Pandora is with the OS am I screwed?
Thanks,
Liamfm said:
Can someone point me in the direction of the radio and wimax radio I need as well? I'm downloading wimax26023 right now, is that right? What's the latest and greatest radio I should use?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
I didn't use unrevoked so I am not really sure if the method I linked to earlier works or not, but it definitely wouldn't hurt to use one of the other methods just to make sure you have full root and the NAND unlocked.
Okay, so I've updated with no problems. I'm on Froyo now, I retained wifi tether. All is good with the world.
Except Pandora. I get the poor quality and the closing when nav or phone call.
Is there a fix for this yet? Also, now that I'm running a custom ROM I would assume I can't take any updates that google would push out. I can still update apps, but if this problem with Pandora is with the OS am I screwed?
Thanks,
Liamfm said:
Okay, so I've updated with no problems. I'm on Froyo now, I retained wifi tether. All is good with the world.
Except Pandora. I get the poor quality and the closing when nav or phone call.
Is there a fix for this yet? Also, now that I'm running a custom ROM I would assume I can't take any updates that google would push out. I can still update apps, but if this problem with Pandora is with the OS am I screwed?
Thanks,
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You've got to use the search button man... Theres a fix for it out there somewhere
I've found the "fix" even before I tried to install 2.2. The problem is that I don't have a PC to work off of.
Can this editing of the file be done by transferring the file via BT to my mac, editing in text editor, and sending back via BT???
Thanks
Liamfm said:
Okay, t3project... explain the thread in post #4 here.
I'm learning here - not trying to be a smartass. It just looks like it WILL work... is this not the case?
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Probably with a stock rooted rom but if you want to do other things such as overclock, uncap the fps, custom kernels and whatnot you'll need to be full nand unlocked.

[Q] Will this rooting method work?

1. Root with Unrevoked3
2. Perform a "nandroid" backup
3. Install Unrevoked Forever
4. Install all Sprint over the air updates for radio, etc <-- Can I do this???
5. Install ClockworkMod and use it to load a 2.2 rooted Rom
Yes, but don't mess with Unrevoked3, it's not a full root. Use Simple Root or just do it manually like a real man using the tutorials.
Rooting will wipe your data if you do it manually, but you can use Unrevoked to do a partial root and then do nandroid or Titanium/MyBackup, just know that you'll still need a full root after that.
Also, you'll just have to flash whatever radios you want using recovery, after you root. It's all done the same way, just flash the zip file. Just watch out when you do radios, they often go through 2-3 automatic reboots during the process. NEVER interrupt the flashing even if you think it's stuck, just wait a few minutes for it to get to your lock screen and be ready.
One thing that bothers me about flashing radios is it seems like it always breaks things from what I'm reading.
Thats why I was thinking about to use unrevoked forever(so I don't have to worry about losing root), and then use the real over the air updates from sprint to update my radios.
Seems safer and more reliable to do radios that way?
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One thing that bothers me about flashing radios is it seems like it always breaks things from what I'm reading.
Thats why I was thinking about to use unrevoked forever(so I don't have to worry about losing root), and then use the real over the air updates from sprint to update my radios.
Seems safer and more reliable to do radios that way?
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Most people just mess up the process. Check the md5 sum and leave the phone alone until you get to the lock screen. Many pull the battery out thinking its going through a boot loop when it really isn't. This bricks it. It is relatively safe.
Yeah, it's usually the user that screws up rather than the software. The OTA is doing the same thing, just initiating from the OS instead of recovery. It's no safer, the radios that you find on the boards are the same files as the OTAs anyway.
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Yes, but don't mess with Unrevoked3, it's not a full root.
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Unrevoked3 + Unrevoked Forever is definitely a full root. I basically did what the OP wrote, except I used the pre-rooted stock Froyo update.
OP, you may wish to look at this thread:
[How To] Unrevoked Forever | Stock 2.1 to Stock 2.2 ROOTED
And you can get the Superuser zip here:
[APP] Superuser 2.3.4 - Now on the Market [2010-08-15]
rafroehlich2 said:
Most people just mess up the process. Check the md5 sum and leave the phone alone until you get to the lock screen. Many pull the battery out thinking its going through a boot loop when it really isn't. This bricks it. It is relatively safe.
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SilverZero said:
Yeah, it's usually the user that screws up rather than the software. The OTA is doing the same thing, just initiating from the OS instead of recovery. It's no safer, the radios that you find on the boards are the same files as the OTAs anyway.
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Gotcha. Thanks guys!
Is there a general rule of thumb with which radio to run?
I'm using the thread below which lists radios and wimax, and I at first assumed the newest is the best, but people complain 2.15.00.07.28 makes their calls choppy, and things like that. Is it safer to go 1 version back, or is there another way to make sure you're getting one that's 110% good to go?
Thread I'm going off of:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
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or just do it manually like a real man using the tutorials.
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Haha - awesome. I feel manlier (nerdier?) for doing it the hard way
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SwimDrewid said:
Haha - awesome. I feel manlier (nerdier?) for doing it the hard way
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Maybe that's what I meant.
For the record, I guess I could be wrong about Unrevoked 3 + UF. But I was right technically.

[Q] Questions about the new Root method.

Let me apologize first to all the people who have perhaps answered these questions throughout the 2 threads already I've read through both of them and cannot quite get a handle on a few things.
Q#1 - Before I do this I need a back up to save all my contacts and apps ect... but most of the ones I'm finding say they require root in order to work. Is there an app for the PC that will do this for me or something I can download on or off the Market for the back up I've over looked?
Q#2 - Is Unrevoked 3 + Forever a true unlocked nand that is permanent? Or will I have to go through the steps for unlocking nand? Basically after I perform unrevoked forever will I be able to simply flash cm6 or baked snack by renaming them to recovery.img? Or should I go ahead and go through the simple root method if I'm trying to get full nand unlocked and flash over to another rom?
Q#3 - Now once this is complete will I loose my radio and PRL or PRI or whatever they are(it would be nice to see a quick answer for that as well)? If so and I've used urevoked 3 and forever can I just go through the OTA again and the PRL update to get these back and retain root + nand?
Q#4 - After all is said and done, not having ever rooted a phone before, I'm wondering at this point how exactly to flash over to CM6 or Baked Snack ect....?
and what backup would be best to use here? I think Titanium is a option. Once I have root but should I restore my contacts and apps ect... then run Titanium(or whatever it is I'm looking for) from the 2.1? After that flash over to what Rom I'm wanting and restore again using titanium this time to get all my stuff into the new rom?
1) Yes, you need to back stuff up, your phone will be wiped. Not sure what the best way to back up your apps is, but I think you can re-download paid apps for free using your Google account, since that's how you sign into market. Contacts can be exported to your SD card, but they also sync with your Gmail account. Beyond that, don't know.
2) Yes, it's a full root when they are combined. UF is an S-OFF and NAND unlock.
3) Yes, UF should protect you from losing root in the future.
4) Search the forums. Flashing is as easy as copying the ROM .zip to your SD card and rebooting into recovery. Wipe everything first (which means you'll lose data if you don't back up). Titanium works well, but you may run into problems if you try to back up all your settings and apps and then restore them all - they don't always work right between versions and/or ROMs. Best to re-download whatever you can. This goes along with your first question. Again, search. Lots of info on this.
But it's always recommended that you use the recovery to do a NANDROID backup, so you can go back to where you were before the flash. It's a full image of your current ROM.
I've heard there's issues with CM because it checks for the eng spl to determine if you have full NAND unlocked. Forever does unlock it, its just not the same method as using an engineering build. All other ROMs should work with no issue and there is probably a work around for CM.
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Try downloading an app called mybackup from the market - free trial only works for 30 days, but thats ok. it can back up your apps (although I've never used it for that), but more importantly, it can also backup your call logs, sms, mms, bookmarks, and a bunch of other stuff. No root needed for this either.
as a rule, you should always back up and save your contacts as google contacts. Then you don't need to ever worry about losing them.
You know, as soon as you flash the new PC36IMG in that new rooting guide, you're at the same starting point as toastcfh's method. You can do a full manual root from there as well and not have to worry about Unrevoked at all. Probably a good idea to run UF at the end, though.
quick question how do I save my contacts to google contacts?
Also thank you all for the help. Did someone find a work around for CM6 using the urevoked methods? or can I just do them to ensure I have the root and nand then do the quick root or full root method afterward?
For new contacts, just choose Google under contact type. I think you may have to manually enter existing ones into Google though or import them somehow - and its much easier to do that from a computer.
Don't think there's a fix for cm yet, but I'm pretty sure you can use any of the older root methods when you get back down to 2.1, and those will let you flash cm.
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Hmmm so there isn't anyway to ensure that I can keep root permanently and still flash the CM6? I'm thinking for some reason (not really sure why) that i want to do the OTA again and update my radio and PRL don't really know what they do (think PRL has something to do with data) then flash over the cm6 but this isn't a feasible option it seems. Well I'm back at 2.1 so do I not need to update the radio and PRL? or will baked snack or what ever come with these updates already? still a bit confused about this whole thing but its worked well so far.
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Hmmm so there isn't anyway to ensure that I can keep root permanently and still flash the CM6? I'm thinking for some reason (not really sure why) that i want to do the OTA again and update my radio and PRL don't really know what they do (think PRL has something to do with data) then flash over the cm6 but this isn't a feasible option it seems. Well I'm back at 2.1 so do I not need to update the radio and PRL? or will baked snack or what ever come with these updates already? still a bit confused about this whole thing but its worked well so far.
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It may have worked well so far, but it can go wrong quick. Once rooted, there is no reason to ota. Ever.
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crimeslunk said:
Hmmm so there isn't anyway to ensure that I can keep root permanently and still flash the CM6? I'm thinking for some reason (not really sure why) that i want to do the OTA again and update my radio and PRL don't really know what they do (think PRL has something to do with data) then flash over the cm6 but this isn't a feasible option it seems. Well I'm back at 2.1 so do I not need to update the radio and PRL? or will baked snack or what ever come with these updates already? still a bit confused about this whole thing but its worked well so far.
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Is that not what Unrevoked Forever does? Permanent root?
Huys, I keep getting stuck at the "Flashing recovery image. Do not touch your phone!" part in the unrevoked 3 prog. What the hell am I doing wrong. All usb drivers from their site are installed and I do what the prog tells me to. Thanks in advance.
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Q#1 - Before I do this I need a back up to save all my contacts and apps ect... but most of the ones I'm finding say they require root in order to work. Is there an app for the PC that will do this for me or something I can download on or off the Market for the back up I've over looked?
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You have to install unrevoked 3 first. That will give you super user permissions where you can then backup your device.
Easiest is to:
A. Install unrevoked 3
B. Install Rom Manager
C. Use Rom Manager to backup your device
D. Use listables to make a list of your contacts and apps
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Q#2 - Is Unrevoked 3 + Forever a true unlocked nand that is permanent? Or will I have to go through the steps for unlocking nand? Basically after I perform unrevoked forever will I be able to simply flash cm6 or baked snack by renaming them to recovery.img? Or should I go ahead and go through the simple root method if I'm trying to get full nand unlocked and flash over to another rom?
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Yes, unrevoked is full root, and permanent. It's the best way IMO.
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Q#3 - Now once this is complete will I loose my radio and PRL or PRI or whatever they are(it would be nice to see a quick answer for that as well)? If so and I've used urevoked 3 and forever can I just go through the OTA again and the PRL update to get these back and retain root + nand?
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Yes. Do unrevoked forever, and then do all the HTC updates for PRL and your radios, except don't update to Android 2.2 through HTC obviously.
This is a major difference between unrevoked and simple root. Simple root makes you jump through hoops to update PRL and radios.
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Q#4 - After all is said and done, not having ever rooted a phone before, I'm wondering at this point how exactly to flash over to CM6 or Baked Snack ect....?
and what backup would be best to use here? I think Titanium is a option. Once I have root but should I restore my contacts and apps ect... then run Titanium(or whatever it is I'm looking for) from the 2.1? After that flash over to what Rom I'm wanting and restore again using titanium this time to get all my stuff into the new rom?
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1. Unrevoked 3
2. Unrevoked forever
3. HTC Radio and PRL updates
4. Rom Manager --> Install your Rom
Simple as it gets
Good walk through using unrevoked forever:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760651
Another good walkthough using unrevoked:
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all...voked-forever-stock-2-1-stock-2-2-rooted.html
So I've flashed over to Baked Snack or what ever it is and tried to restore all my contacts ect with My Backup but it has totally wiped my 7 "pages" now they are all empty is this something I should be worried about or should I just rebuild them?
Note: I forgot to do a nandroid back up between the 2.1 flash to the Baked Snack.
So have I lost my PRL and my Wimax and Radio? And if I have is this a big deal? Kinda worried about updating them manually seeming as how people are saying they've bricked their phones from it. Will I have to flash back to 2.1 and update again or is this pointless because when I do my factory wipe before flashing the rom does it delete the updated PRL Radio and Wimax?
And I greatly appreciate all of you help here. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
*For my next time through where is Rom Manager? Is this a market or pc app?
i have another question ones you are done with this can you install another rom for ex: omj?
nevermind, i fixed it by uninstalling htc sync and then running unrevoked 3
Well Baked Snack is good and all but it seems to be using up more of my mem then the official froyo. Why is that? I'm thinking I want to change over to Cyanogen (not for the memory use but I'm really not digging sense) but I'm hearing that its not possible with Unrevoked. Could someone give me some advice on how to set it up so I can flash CM6? Can I still go about using the simple root method over the unrevoked? Then flash to CM6? Or will I have to remove the root somehow and then flash the 2.1 then do something? Ohh its all so very confusing for now but I'll get the hang of this soon and stop asking questions.
Someone post a link as to where are the latest radios are please?

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