[Q] Does the new Telus Desire use the Clearpad2000? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So the new Telus Desire has swapped out the AMOLED screen with an SLCD, but what about the touchscreen component? I would love to hear that the Clearpad2000 has been swapped out as well! I currently own a Nexus One and the poor multitouch is driving me nuts.

It's the same, I'm guessing you mean it only senses duo touch still
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That sucks. Not only can it only track two touches only, but if you happen to cross the same axis while it's tracking two fingers it will start acting up. It means that multitouch keyboard are pretty much useless.

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[Q] HTC tuch HD to HTC Desire HD

Hello,
I currently own a HTC Touch HD and I hate it with a passion. It is slow, bugy, the screen goes from to sensitive to unresponsive is a millisecond so it is nealry impossible to scroll down the contacts without picking the wrong one or flying past the one you want etc. When I first got it I had a lot of problems with it connection to the 3G all by itself although that is mostly under control now. I have no real issues with the Windows operating system but it is clearly out of date these days.
My question is the Desire HD everything that my Touch HD wasn't? Is is quick, smooth, easy to use and so? Is the touch screen on a par with an IPOD Touch?
Please help as I dont know whether HTC are bad or just that I had a bad phone?
Has anyone bought phones from these guys as they seem cheap enough?
simplyelectronics.net
(I cant post links yet)
I changed from the Touch HD and can honestly say its a completely different experience - I continue to be blown away by my Desire HD.
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This phone is great, but I'm starting to consider htc as a bad company. I don't like the way they keep blocking the root exploits. As much as I love the sense ui, I will probably start buying nexus phones from now on unless htc want to allow rooting.
If you do decide to buy, at least try and get a phone with 1.32 firmware so you can root it.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.
I am a beginer at all this technical stuff, what exactly is rooting and why would I want to do it?
Wardy257 said:
I am a beginer at all this technical stuff, what exactly is rooting and why would I want to do it?
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Google it as "What is Android rooting". Briefly it provides you to have SuperUser access on the phone and install custom ROM, some spesific apps etc...
Firstly I recommend you to read much and gain information about Android platform then you operate on the phone. I have read forums approx. 1 month before I buy an Android phone.
I upgraded from the Touch HD to the Desire HD too and I will never look back!
My only concern is that a normal desire would have been enough due to the smaller size and better battery life. I've yet to reach 48 hours on one charge with minimal usage...and I don't make many calls!
Hello I had a Touch HD, and now Desire HD. I like my touch hd, but desire is much more better.
Only one thing i missed. I have logitech bluetooth handsfree and it doesnt work with desire. It works perfect with touch hd....
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Touchscreen not as sensitive as SAmoled ?

Hello dear XDA Users ,
Since Yesterday I switched from an Galaxy S to an HTC Desire HD (YAY 4.3 Inch )
I just love this Phone but one thing is making me crazy and I hope you guys can make me calm down:
The Touchscreen is not as Responsive as the SuperAmoled from my old Samsung. This means that when I was trying to use least pressure to move from 1 Homescreen to the other with my Galaxy S it was working. I tried the same thing with my Desire and it has no / less reaction than my Galaxy. I hope I could explain nicely what makes me Mad.
Thanks in Advance for the Replys
PS: This is just my old school English, hope you guys forgive me
PS 2: Maybe it sounds fussy for you Guys but this Phone was expensive and I just want to make Sure that I did an upgrade from Galaxy to Desire HD
They use different digitisers. The one from the Galaxy S is probably more sensitive.
olivierlee said:
They use different digitisers. The one from the Galaxy S is probably more sensitive.
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That's right.It's not a problem,like the SGS is better or something.It's just different.Some people,including me,are more annoyed by an oversensitive screen.I for one am ok!
Compared to my Omnia, the DHD is hyper sensitive!
Yeah I agree, sometimes I do not even have to physically touch the screen, and it registers a touch. If Samsung is MORE sensitive, I do not even want to try it
I've used both the DHD and SGS and found them to be equal in sensitivity. That could just be me.
jkoljo said:
Yeah I agree, sometimes I do not even have to physically touch the screen, and it registers a touch. If Samsung is MORE sensitive, I do not even want to try it
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I think dhd is too sensitive. I'd like it has the possibility to decrease the sensibility of the touch... it works without any touch
Anyway welcome on board! This is one of the most interesting and powerful phone on the market.
to be honest it is the best phone ever. and you will get on to use it
R.

[Q] Multi-touch (Axis-swapping and sticking) walkaround possible?

Anyone keen to play with the Kernel driver for the touchscreen on the desire, to come up with a patch that keeps axis inversion/sticking to a bare minimum? This is the only think keeping me from getting a desire, as I don't want to be held back by hardware. Playing multi-touch Pong and Air Hockey with my friends at school is something I want to be able to do, not to mention the almost console quality games like NOVA. A fix (kind-of) was made for the Acer Liquid By a guy playing with the kernal drivers. All of my developing focus is going into learning Java right now (Gotta start somewhere, right? ) and I do not have a device to test on, so if someone could have a go with the source from the Acer thread or create something themselves from/for the kernel at developer.htc.com would be more than greatful, because I'm not exactly keen on the Desire hd's form facter and buttons, despite the performance. Sucks that all the Desire phones have a big flaw. (Desire - Multitouch. Z - hinge. HD - Size could be a problem, buttons too flush and delicate battery, sim, and SD covers.)
Thanks in advance for your time, and, hopefully, hard work.
Would be very cool, It's practically impossible to play games like modern combat, or any other games where your fingers cross, because of the axis swapping. A fix that, almost, prevents that would be awesome.
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Yeh, that very a big problem...
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I know it's impossible to truly fix it, but you can get close. personally, I don't care for having more than two finger gestures, I just want perfectly stable multitouch. If someone could create a driver that assigns an id to the first and second touch, and tries to, as accurately as possible, track which registered touch is which, even when the movement exceeds the refresh rate of the screen/sensor, and reads 2 individual touches when they are close/the axises are close. I've been reading up on how the synaptics ClearPad 2000 works, and it reports 2 coordinates for each touch, an x and a y. Shouldn't be too hard for it to not get very confused, right? I'd say, this is a year overdue. But the Desire is still one of the greatest phones ever made (if not THE). This issue still stands between me and it, even though it can barely be noticed in everyday use.
Korntoff, trust me when I say I'm not trying to be rude, although it may come across that way (the internet isn't good at the subtle and nuanced art of conversation) but don't you think it's the height of arrogance to believe you're the first person to have even considered this? It's the 14th of February. The HTC Desire will have been available for a whole year in just two days and you're asking this as if it hadn't dawned on all of these people for almost a year.
If someone could create a driver that assigns an id to the first and second touch, and tries to, as accurately as possible, track which registered touch is which, even when the movement exceeds the refresh rate of the screen/sensor, and reads 2 individual touches when they are close/the axises are close.
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Wow...such a simple solution...why have none of us thought of it!!? C'mon man.
so this will never be fixed?
IIRC, this is a hardware issue rather than a software issue. So I don't think it's possible.
i am already regretting buying the htc desire... i am getting it tomorrow.... i didn't know there was that multitouch issue until yesterday... i always thought the htc devices wre top notch as it got such great reviews... none mentioned the multitouch bug... i was planning to play a lot of games... i am so disappointed..
edit: i think the issues of htc desire should be stickied.. i can't believe i missed that issue before i was deciding to buy the desire... it's too late now... i was planning to buy the acer liquid but saw it had multitouch issue... through the forums... i missed it for desire... darn
are there some tips to avois this multitouch bug while playing games or typing on the virtual keyboard?
I tried NOVA and it seemed fairly responsive to be honest - there was a recommended control setup for the desire to help prevent the multi-touch issue - and i am sure i read somewhere a tip was to try and make sure the touches don't line up with each other?
yup i saw it... but are all games configurable like nova?
yeahman45 said:
i am already regretting buying the htc desire... i am getting it tomorrow.... i didn't know there was that multitouch issue until yesterday... i always thought the htc devices wre top notch as it got such great reviews... none mentioned the multitouch bug... i was planning to play a lot of games... i am so disappointed..
edit: i think the issues of htc desire should be stickied.. i can't believe i missed that issue before i was deciding to buy the desire... it's too late now... i was planning to buy the acer liquid but saw it had multitouch issue... through the forums... i missed it for desire... darn
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In The Netherlands we have a 7 day cooling down period after buying something or signing a contract (with most expensive purchases). In those days you can cancel your purchase for free. You should see if something like that applies where you live as well.
thx for the advice but no such thing here... anyway thx for helping.. i got the phone and yes got some issues with the multitouch... guess i will live with it.. apart from that the phone is very good!
i just played crash bandicoot warped on fpse and i mapped the x and o keys on the "search" and "back" physical keys and use the touch dpad... and works pretty good!!! i have reached the first boss level quite easily... if only all android games were that customizable!! would be able to play all the multitouch games properly
My Dad gave me his hd2, and it has the axis sticking issue, but not axis swapping. Less of an issue, but still annoying at times. (Such as playing N.O.V.A (btw, I can't find it on the market, using an apk I downloaded from some site (I hope it was a free app and that this is perfectly legal, but I'm probably wrong.) Is it still on the market? How did you guys find it?) But this phone was definately not built for gaming (adreno 200, anybody?) So it's not that much of a big deal.)
Btw, nexus gingerbread ROM, hence signature.
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Korntoff said:
My Dad gave me his hd2, and it has the axis sticking issue, but not axis swapping. Less of an issue, but still annoying at times. (Such as playing N.O.V.A (btw, I can't find it on the market, using an apk I downloaded from some site (I hope it was a free app and that this is perfectly legal, but I'm probably wrong.) Is it still on the market? How did you guys find it?) But this phone was definately not built for gaming (adreno 200, anybody?) So it's not that much of a big deal.)
Btw, nexus gingerbread ROM, hence signature.
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i thought hd2 had clearpad 2000 like nexus one and desire???
"But this phone was definately not built for gaming (adreno 200, anybody?)"
but still some casual gaming with no bugs wud have been cool..for the price u pay for this kind of phone
yeahman45 said:
i thought hd2 had clearpad 2000 like nexus one and desire???
"But this phone was definately not built for gaming (adreno 200, anybody?)"
but still some casual gaming with no bugs wud have been cool..for the price u pay for this kind of phone
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Casual gaming is still very possible, just don't expect halo 3 graphics. Does the hd2 have clearpad 2000? Maybe the Desire multitouch isn't such a lost cause.
Sent from my Gingerfied hd2
yeahman45 said:
i am already regretting buying the htc desire... i am getting it tomorrow.... i didn't know there was that multitouch issue until yesterday... i always thought the htc devices wre top notch as it got such great reviews... none mentioned the multitouch bug... i was planning to play a lot of games... i am so disappointed..
edit: i think the issues of htc desire should be stickied.. i can't believe i missed that issue before i was deciding to buy the desire... it's too late now... i was planning to buy the acer liquid but saw it had multitouch issue... through the forums... i missed it for desire... darn
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Without sounding rude, it's not an issue or a bug, the bottom line is the desire dosent have multi touch, it has dual touch, the axis flipping is just a downside to that type of touch panel, it's nothing to do with the quality of htc products, as the screen is behaving as it should. so you really should of researched your purchase before you bought it.
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Even though the hd2 has the same touch panel and no axis swapping issue.
Sent from my Gingerfied hd2
how come hd2 does not have the axis swapping issue although it has the same screen as htc desire and nexus one??

[Q] Common Problems

Hello guys
My question is this what kind of hardware or software problems got this phone
I got HTC HD2 US Ver and i suffer from the keypads problem when i press them the screen dont recognize my touch(the touch screen become normal screen like "dumb" phones)
is there problems like this in the Desire HD or should i get a "junk" iPhone 4
(i still rather have HTC then this rotten apple)

6 years later...and we still have no decent replacement for the Desire Z

Sad times...sad times...
I see this place is also RIP.
riahc3 said:
Sad times...sad times...
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How do you define "decent replacement"? I definitely missed having a QWERTY keyboard when I used a full touch device after my Desire Z died, but I've been using the BlackBerry Priv for the past 7 months and it's great. Didn't think I'd like a portrait slider, but at 5.4" screen size I'd say it's the better solution, the keyboard is maybe even better than DZ's plus it's capacitive and allows scrolling, various gestures while typing etc. Can't be rooted, but thankfully BB runs nearly stock Android so I'm also very happy software-wise.
There's also the newly announced candybar BlackBerry KEYone.
RIP G2 forums
HTC needs to step it up with a reboot of the Desire Z/G2
Flippy125 said:
RIP G2 forums
HTC needs to step it up with a reboot of the Desire Z/G2
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I was hoping that HTC would do that for quite some time, but they don't exactly seem interested. If you need or want a physical keyboard and Android, BlackBerry is your best bet.
There's also this, but a 5.5" landscape slider seems like a silly idea IMO.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/keyboard-mod-a-physical-keyboard-for-the-moto-z#/

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