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the problem I have is anytime I open anything theres a lag of 1 to 3 seconds at times. when I type it takes 1-2 seconds for it to catch up with what I had typed. its getting real annoying and don't have much programs open, is there some kind of tweak that can fix this. it would really turn my productivity up ten folds... thanks
ezsoulja said:
the problem I have is anytime I open anything theres a lag of 1 to 3 seconds at times. when I type it takes 1-2 seconds for it to catch up with what I had typed. its getting real annoying and don't have much programs open, is there some kind of tweak that can fix this. it would really turn my productivity up ten folds... thanks
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yea dude, flash a new rom, what happened is your windows directory got loaded and is slowing down the preformance on your entire ppc.. some of the newer roms have fixed this.
but se I had recently flashed over to crc's 14.1.
ezsoulja said:
but se I had recently flashed over to crc's 14.1.
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when you open file explorer and browse into windows directory. how long does it take to load?
CRC is usually fully loaded, hence it will be slow. Try a lite ROM and see if you have any performance difference.
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CRC is usually fully loaded, hence it will be slow. Try a lite ROM and see if you have any performance difference.
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this could thoretically happen on a light rom also, if he were to install allot of apps that are heavy on installing to the windows directory.
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this could thoretically happen on a light rom also, if he were to install allot of apps that are heavy on installing to the windows directory.
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Agreed, performance goes down once you start installing many applications or quit flashing for a few days
Wasn't it with CRC's roms that Odd numbered roms were the stable roms and even numbered roms were in developement?
Could be using a developement rom that has a few bugs to be worked out....
Cheers...
ai6908 said:
CRC is usually fully loaded, hence it will be slow. Try a lite ROM and see if you have any performance difference.
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Just use CRC r13, its stable and more performance than r14.1
Visit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387990
im currently running now 13.0 stable but still the same, is there something within the registry i can do or something or could it be the auto word completion thing?
i do have quite some software on my phone but majority of them are utility programs that help me clean and or tweak my settings.
i dont wanna crank up my core speed as that will already kill the juice of my battery of what little i do get out of the day,
Use advanced config to make sure you are running with .net framework 3.5... I found a few of the newer roms have it listed as "disabled"...
I can confirm this slowdown. I tried different roms with and w/o manilla 2d interface. Recently, there has been a weird change in the codebase that causes an extreme slowdown in some applications. For example, I am a regular POWDER player, which is an awesome roguelike game. a month or two ago, I had no problems playing POWDER. But the last few roms gave me great trouble. Now the game freezes every 5-10 seconds for a few seconds. I know there is something wrong with the roms because the game is the same game I played 2 months ago. And I don't install many applications to use /windows directory. actually, I install almost nothing and this slow down hits even without installing any applications.
I always use naked roms, but recently there has been a serious lack of them. The reason "may" be the sort of bloated roms. I just hope that somebody comes with a truly naked (.net only) rom so that we can test this hypothesis.
I guess I found the source of the problem. fonts. extra fonts.
One of the programs I install by default after every flash puts three different fonts into the \windows folder. I renamed these fonts and restarted the pda. The annoying slowdown when playing POWDER is now almost gone. Once in a while it still gives me a short freeze, but these freezes are not as frequent as before. The game is much more playable now.
by the way, when I was wandering through my windows folder, I realized that there are an enourmous number of youtube files in it. How unfortunate, because I never use the youtube application. Appearantly, too much storage space is wasted for a program that I never use. I will definitely consider a non-youtube non-manilla non-htchome ROM for the next flash.
burkay said:
I can confirm this slowdown. I tried different roms with and w/o manilla 2d interface. Recently, there has been a weird change in the codebase that causes an extreme slowdown in some applications. For example, I am a regular POWDER player, which is an awesome roguelike game. a month or two ago, I had no problems playing POWDER. But the last few roms gave me great trouble. Now the game freezes every 5-10 seconds for a few seconds. I know there is something wrong with the roms because the game is the same game I played 2 months ago. And I don't install many applications to use /windows directory. actually, I install almost nothing and this slow down hits even without installing any applications.
I always use naked roms, but recently there has been a serious lack of them. The reason "may" be the sort of bloated roms. I just hope that somebody comes with a truly naked (.net only) rom so that we can test this hypothesis.
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here is a very naked 20924 build for you to test your theory on dude! it's still beta but will be release soon
http://captfiero.com/roms/joshkoss/Tests/V11_Light3G.rar
joshkoss said:
here is a very naked 20924 build for you to test your theory on dude! it's still beta but will be release soon
http://captfiero.com/roms/joshkoss/Tests/V11_Light3G.rar
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downloading... it is sort of late now to flash and test but I will do it first thing tomorrow morning.
burkay said:
downloading... it is sort of late now to flash and test but I will do it first thing tomorrow morning.
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ok, couldn't wait till morning. I have been testing the rom for last hour and oh God!... this is the best, fastest, most stable ROM I have flashed in a while. I installed my regular set of software and it is still lightning fast. the windows directory loads in under a second. Probably something like 0.3 seconds!!! All applications are so responsive and everything works so fast, I am finding it difficult to not to cry. Let's see what will happen after a couple of days. But seriously, my hermes hasn't been this awesome for the last two months.
the links not working
Look around, there are a heap of Lite roms available at the moment... Try Darkvision or Tai_SW's rom... Just to name a couple...
I'm following... so heres my idea. I'm not gonna flash my phone just yet (I got a good rom working on it), but...
Can someone either point me to an ultra light rom that has titanium home, or possibly explain how to get titanium onto a non-titanium rom? I know thats like asking "how do you build an engine" or something, but is there a good starting point?
All I want is a rom thats fast, has titanium home, and has the Touchflo 2d phone skin (for big fingers).
P.S>. Why do roms slow down over time for no reason? I've noticed the latest crop of 6.5 roms run good for a day or two, then start going REALLY slow. I can't nail it down.. I try Oxios but it doesn't help. I'm not installing anything either. The honeycomb gets jerky, the "red end button" starts getting a lag / not working at all, etc.
Thanks.
I have a problem with the newest version of the Dungeon Defenders on froyo. It was smooth and stable under 2.1 but the os was crappy, so i updated to the 131, then to the 145 and after the 34.4.9 US official froyo during the past few weeks, but the problem remained on every version. Sometime the game is fully playable for hours, sometimes it freezes the whole phone, or extremely slow right after i start the game and almost impossible to quit (0.01 FPS) and i have to remove the battery. Other games like Dungeon Hunter are always good and the the problem never occured, but Sygic Aura(a GPS software) sometimes produces the same problem. The phone is rooted but not overclocked.
Anyone else experiences the same or my phone is faulty? Thank you in advance!
I have exactly same problem in 2.2.1 with any 3D application (kwaak3, raging thunder). Killing all apps with Advanced Task Killer makes phone smooth again without reboot, but all 3D applications are unusable.
After some searching i still haven't solution.
This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826507 isn't working, neither this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008645
After exiting problematic application CPU usage is 0%, but phone is choppy and unresponsive.
i have downgraded back to eclair and everything is good. The cpu usageis 0% but the IOW is realy high. That is why the phone is choppy. I have tried every froyo rom from 107 to 164 and none of it is working right for me. I dont know that the problem is because of the beta firmware or our phone is faulty? But if it is goog under eclair it cannot be faulty? Isnt it?
This problem has been reported even with the official/unofficial current Motor release of 2.2
Try a stock rom withou blur, 3.4.2-155-002.
With blur, many games lag, don't start, or crash while playing. Tested in stock 2.1, 3.4.3-11, with blur. If you test in stock 3.4.2-155-02, you will see the difference.
I'm in barebones 1.4 now, playing all my games, overclocked and undervolted ([email protected], [email protected], [email protected] 75 threshold).
The best game to test your Defy is Asphalt 6, if this game run, all other will run too (Dungeon Hunter II tested too).
I have done a little bit of build.prop tweak and I found it reduced the problem slightly (doesn't eliminate). Very rarely for games to lag now, but still exists in Google Map, only if you navigated a wide region.
dalivik.vm.heapsize=30m
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dalivik.vm.heapsize=40m
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=70
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windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60
**currently using 34.4.9, this also worked on 34.4.4 (t-Mobile)**
The results are obtained from trail-n-error. Not very scientific, but you could give it a try and post some feed back. Thank you.
Problems start appearing some time after phone reboot, but for now everything runs fine. Thank you very much for posting this !
i think i found the solution or at least some kind of workaround for dungeon defenders running on froyo. when the game starts lagging (in most cases in lobby) just press the home button und return to homescreen, slide a few times and return back to the game and it plays smoothly and laggfree as if nothing ever happened. works for me everytime. hope it does for you too.
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Unfortunately problem is still there, maybe its little bit better with teruyume's tweak. I found thread about this bug in official motorola forum, so let's hope someone can solve it.
Caleb_cz said:
Unfortunately problem is still there, maybe its little bit better with teruyume's tweak. I found thread about this bug in official motorola forum, so let's hope someone can solve it.
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did you try my trick?
derbestimmer said:
did you try my trick?
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Yes, but phone is very choppy after bug appears, sliding in homescreens is almost unpossible.
Because the problem occurs for me not only in Dungeon Defenders I think it has to be a known bug to motorlola nad dont release the the update this buggy. Editing the heap is a good idea i will test it tonight and reports how it is works.
i edited the build prop and tried the home screen trick bot none ofthem helped.. i am on 3.4.2-155. going back to eclair agan
You guys now something? i tried DefyFroyoSense and Dungeon Defenders was COMPLETLY smooth. Smoother than on 2.1. This ROM is magic.
sometimes it is smooth for a couple hours. But once it starts to lag i cannot make it to work right once again only just by restarting the phone. but i will try that sense rom
think lots of us have heard and maybe most of us already played / are playing this FF-feel-alike game
I hope those users who are having problem of getting this game run on their device, can spend some times on reading this post as PREVIOUSLY i was facing the same problem..i said..PREVIOUSLY....haha...
5 days ago, before that i was on GingerVillain 2.0 Rom..which a superb rom..fast..clean...those games like Gangster & Gangster 2 were not playable in my stock froyo htc rom..after switched to GingerVillain, i was amazed by Gingerbread rom...
but when this big game release..i was able to install it, the game can launch..but it hangs at the 1st scene..with 2 priests/guards standing at a red background...i have tried to set my cpu to max 1133..kills some apps just to ensure the game have enough memory to run...but still..i am stucked at the same scene everytime...
the worst part is what i couldnt imagine...after trying for many many times..i give up on this game...sad and disappointed...reading the post from some x10 user and moto defy that they can run the game smoothly..but why my desire cant? the next day..when i tried to listen to the music with my desire..the songs cant be found..oh gosh..something wrong already..immediately i go to my root explorer..but it just cant show my sd card!!!!
the game some how corrupted my sdcard..i was forced to reformat it with SDFormatter 3.0...and my last backup was somewhere in march...haha..
after i reformat my sdcard...i decided to try another rom...spent some times browsing the forum...and chosen the Starburst Standard Rom and did all the flashing last night....
then..i tried to install Eternal Legacy in this new rom...and finally...it runs smoothly...without lags!!!!
so..i hope those who read my post...would find it useful/helpful for you guys...
cheers...
Hey XDAers,
I am having an issue with DN3, I installed it on my N7100a week ago and I find it nice. Only problem is that the phone is slow, menus, apps and I even have an issue with Hill climb racing which is a simple game, there is like half a second between when i tap the screen and when the game reacts. Maybe I a missing something ? I think I will change ROM is I don't find an answer to that problem... Thanks everyone
McGuigew said:
Hey XDAers,
I am having an issue with DN3, I installed it on my N7100a week ago and I find it nice. Only problem is that the phone is slow, menus, apps and I even have an issue with Hill climb racing which is a simple game, there is like half a second between when i tap the screen and when the game reacts. Maybe I a missing something ? I think I will change ROM is I don't find an answer to that problem... Thanks everyone
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I also have those kind of stutters and laggs with DN rom idk if its from the rom but never had any problems with the other roms, mine phone run as fast as Note 3 or S5. Try changing the rom with other and see the results after one week or wipe cache and dalvik and see if there is any improvement.
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I also have those kind of stutters and laggs with DN rom idk if its from the rom but never had any problems with the other roms, mine phone run as fast as Note 3 or S5. Try changing the rom with other and see the results after one week or wipe cache and dalvik and see if there is any improvement.
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What he said; that ROM is known to be laggy and buggy due to all the mods added into it. Respect to its devs though.
Greetings.
In hopes of finding someone who's facing a similar problem, I'd like to ask you about a certain issue.
I've installed the Xperia Play Z Ultimate Edition rom on my Xplay r800i. It's running all cool and great, but there's one problem. The apps are closing for no reason. It's like, one moment you're playing a game, and all of a sudden the main screen appears, as if you pressed the home button, but the app is gone. It looks like they're crashing when the phone is under heavy load. It happens to literally everything. Even Messenger bubbles often disappear when there's a new heavy app starting.
I've searched the rom's thread, but didn't find any information about such problem.
If this matters, I've flashed the kernel that was supplied by rom creator - 480p DoomKernel.
This is the first rom I've seen which has an issue like that, and I don't think there's any alternative, as this is the only ICS rom I know that keeps all of Xplay's core features while significantly improving speed and functionality.
Please help. Does anyone know why this happens?
Update: out of frustration, I've changed to another ICS rom, Honami 2.1.3, together with switching to a Lupus V7 kernel (ram version)... and the same thing happens. Although with the new rom my phone's performance seems to have DRASTICALLY improved, apps are still closing for no reason. There's not even a popup or error, or anything like that - it just pulls the plug and suddenly kicks me to the main screen.
This problem renders heavy games literally UNPLAYABLE. It runs perfect for like 5 or 10 minutes, with high framerate even, then out of a sudden BAM - back to the main screen. No error, no nothing.
Browsing around Lupus settings I've found something called Low Memory Killer. From what I understand, this thing kills the apps when the device is on critically low memory. Maybe this is the cause? And if it is, why the heck is it "going rogue" and killing apps that I'm ACTIVELY USING? How do I configure this? I assume you can't just disable it...
Please help.
Seriously? No one has ANY IDEA what's happening? Please help! I literally have no clue what may be causing this.
Switched to YET ANOTHER rom and kernel - Nexplay, with bundled Lupus kernel, this time also changing the firmware to R800i_4.0.2.A.0.58_Enhanced. With this one, the phone runs definitely the fastest, but guess what... same thing happens as before. Games commit suicide when played for too long. Out of all I've tested, the only ones that don't shut down are OpenTyrian and Nes emulator. Gun Bros worked fine for like 5 minutes, and suddenly closed, working very slow for like 2 seconds before it happened. Same thing with Vendetta Online but this one outright REBOOTED THE PHONE! And these games supposedly are optimized for xplay, so it doesn't make any sense why there's such a problem going on...
I'm starting to wonder if maybe it's because I'm using ICS roms? But then, I've never seen anybody reporting such problems with ANY rom. This definitely isn't a common issue. I'm also using Link2SD, but again, I've never seen anyone mentioning it causing anything like that.
I can relate to your problem. I've experienced the same (apps randomly closing while in use) issues 1 or 2 years ago and to me the development on these roms are dead since the developers have moved onto newer devices. Currently my xperia play is dead (bricked) however with experience of using many of the roms i can safely say that ICS is not meant for the xperia play. Sony themselves didn't officially release ICS for this device due to the number of bugs and problems associated with it. I'd recommend you to use GB roms to bring out the best potential of your device. ICS lags some way or another whereas GB doesn't. All games run smooth on Gingerbread and they certainly do not have issues like ICS does. The best rom for this device is Gin2kitkat ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631144 ) and my personal favourite Xperia NXT 2 r1 (i've used this rom the longest). Here's the link for that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649368
From experience, as long as you use a Gingerbread rom you should be good to go as they are the most stable for our device. Good luck
Aaw, that's a real bummer. The problem with GB roms is that there's a lot of ICS apps and games that I really need. One of the main reasons I've decided to unlock bootloader on this device is because I wanted to get an upgrade to ICS. It's really strange. I've seen people play advanced games on this phone (example) and there are no signs of problems such as the one I'm experiencing.
Thanks a lot for your reply. I guess I'll use one more ICS rom, and if that fails, I'll give GB roms a try.
Btw, what do you think about NXT Gaming rom? I don't care much about flashy UI and widgets, and as long as everything in the phone works (camera, xLoud etc.) priority for me is gaming performance, and from description, this rom seems to be the most aggresive I've seen when it comes for optimizing performance for games.
I agree, from the vid the user is seen to be running the ROM "ICS Ultimate". Also i haven't tried the NXT gaming rom only the NXT 2r1 but regardless, with that rom i've been able to play emulator games and heavy intensive games such as Fifa 2012. I'd only imagine the 'NXT Gaming rom' is faster and better but since i haven't tried it, i'm unable to give you a direct response, sorry. Anyways Gingerbread will always be the best in terms of gaming performance and functionality, but if you're able to find a good ICS rom that is smooth when playing games such as GTA then it's entirely up to you whether you want to stay on ICS or not. Also correct me if i'm wrong but i remember GTA3 (not san andreas) being playable on gingerbread.
Correct, GTA3 DOES work on Gingerbread, but unfortunately only this one and Vice City do so. GTA San Andreas and Chinatown Wars will not work on anything lower than ICS. This is an example anyway, cuz there are few more things that I need and will work only on ICS.
Anyways, guess what. I've tried YET another Rom from a portuguese site (rom is Fusion ICS 2.4), and the problem stopped - apps no longer spontaneously shut down. There's another problem though... as this system is ridiculously unstable. Sometimes it's fast as lightning, then sometimes it slows down to a crawl for no reason - it has nothing to do with active apps; it often happens with no active apps running and with tons of free ram available. It's completely random. Even the interface sometimes crashes for no reason. Curiously though, all games run extremely fast and they never shut down on their own. Unfortunately, it's not worth using such a train wreck. Games running well while the rest of the system goes haywire defeats the purpose for me.
I'd give "ICS Ultimate" rom a try, but for some reason, I get virus alerts when trying to download or open the file. I guess I'll either wait until it's confirmed false alert, or go for GB roms finally.