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next phone will be the g1 or iphone

idk whether to go wit the android or apple im confused both good phones but i dont kno if this site in particular will work with the android system since this is all windows mobile...any suggestions from yu guys

why wouldnt this site work?
you lost me...

blahzay_blah said:
idk whether to go wit the android or apple im confused both good phones but i dont kno if this site in particular will work with the android system since this is all windows mobile...any suggestions from yu guys
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this is like ordering a drink and wondering where the f*** the bartender went. lol you can make the situation work.. but it's just not quite right...
i think you mean "but i dont kno if this site in particular will HELP ME FUDGE AROUND with the android system since this is all windows mobile"
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i don't know either. members might help, they might not. i know they are more willing when they can understand wtf is goin' better...

we might still get a thread for the android.. its an htc phone so we will wrk it out

Tomorrow i am gonna talk to Flar about a section for it

alright cool

I ordered my G1 today...so far I've been relatively impressed (though i hate the graphics for the UI...too google like - duh!) I saw a bunch of hands on videos...looks impressive. I'm mad I have to wait until the 22nd of October though.
Also wish they went with a more...sexy Hardware design.

ordering today...rock that until the touch hd comes around on tmobile 3g or winmo 7 comes around in 2023.

AbsoluteDesignz said:
I ordered my G1 today...so far I've been relatively impressed (though i hate the graphics for the UI...too google like - duh!) I saw a bunch of hands on videos...looks impressive. I'm mad I have to wait until the 22nd of October though.
Also wish they went with a more...sexy Hardware design.
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2nd, the flow of the software and the usability of it seem great. Just too bad the whole thing looks looks like it was put together by a bunch of people who wouldn't know what design was if a design school fell down and hit them in the head.

AbsoluteDesignz said:
I ordered my G1 today...so far I've been relatively impressed (though i hate the graphics for the UI...too google like - duh!) I saw a bunch of hands on videos...looks impressive. I'm mad I have to wait until the 22nd of October though.
Also wish they went with a more...sexy Hardware design.
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Actually, i bought as my birthday gift to myself...hence the 10/22 in my name. Thats when i'm getting it as well.
Like i said, if i dont like it...unlock it, sell it

Mikey1022 said:
Actually, i bought as my birthday gift to myself...hence the 10/22 in my name. Thats when i'm getting it as well.
Like i said, if i dont like it...unlock it, sell it
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plus u can return it within 90 days

swaney said:
plus u can return it within 90 days
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Might be able to make money, instead of just returning it. All about the money

i just bought an unlocked touch pro

gixxum said:
i just bought an unlocked touch pro
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details!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A Power Toy With TV OUT!
gixxum said:
i just bought an unlocked touch pro
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Gixxum, now you are playing the Game With POWER, you go guy, yes.......!{LOL}

My Power Toy, Will Be The Supreme Superior Xperia X1 Stargate
As you know my next power toy got to have the ultimate enhancement in multimedia video technology capabilities, therefore my new POWER toy will be the Supreme Superior Xperia X1 Stargate, the most powerful starship in the galaxy...! Check it out here http://sonyericsson.com/X1/ ......! To all you guys, that have purchased the new G1, more power to you, enjoy have fun......!

the Touch is a damn sexy phone- wish the G1 had half that good looks

AbsoluteDesignz said:
details!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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uhm..details are im an idiot that just spent way too much on a cell phone out of spite for a company i hope burns in hell.

The HTC Touch Pro
gixxum said:
uhm..details are im an idiot that just spent way too much on a cell phone out of spite for a company i hope burns in hell.
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You got the right device, you will be glade you the mobile that you got, top of the line!

the g1 looks like a softcover book.. i'm not impressed....
the iphone appstore seems to be part of the nazi party.. i'll pass.
come to me touch hd.....
may or may not buy a kaiser till the hd comes out.

HTC is crap...

Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it. Yeah yeah I know some peeps would say we don't need 60fps, but hell for me even if I only get 40fps with nova hack, things seem so much smoother.

vboyz103 said:
Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it. Yeah yeah I know some peeps would say we don't need 60fps, but hell for me even if I only get 40fps with nova hack, things seem so much smoother.
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Yeah, I'm pissed off with my EVO! or I should say HTC!!! I've emailed them about 3 times now and still no reply in regards to the 30 frame rates per second cap. I'm going to wait until the 3rd of July and return my evo and wait for the sprint samsung galaxy version... i read there's going to be 2 versions, a pro with the qwerty and a keyboard less. Also i read the processor in it is identical to that of the iphone 4. This is bull HTC, i expected the best from the evo until the 2nd day i had my evo and saw my palm pre plays 3d games 10 times better than the evo.

I feel what you guys are saying, but how many of us would have known about this issue so early on had it not been for the members here bringing it to our attention, I would have probably caught it later on and not so soon. And yes it is very snappy with the hack.
Also I'm pretty sure sprint is only getting the QWERTY flavored Galaxy S. Samsung also doesn't have a very good track record with keeping up with their devices on a timely fashion. I left MOMENT due to that and went HTC, not like sprint has an variety of big named devices anyway. I'm pretty sure emailing HTC at this point is a waste of time seeing as they already stated they capped it for *their* reasons. This isn't a problem for me since the devs are working on fixes even tho it isn't their job. I'm not an average user so tweaking and twiddling with my phone is all good for me. But I can see how to an average user this would be an issue if they even decide to care.
I really don't know how any of you guys expect to by any smart phone or gadget for that matter and have it work flawlessly without fault. I still can't get over people getting bent about some light warpage that you only see in dark areas but hey thats just me.

Samsung has pledged to focus more on their Android devices so I would imagine that their past issues with not updating will be resolved...
I'm really wanting the Galaxy S Pro... It takes every other Android phone to task.

take the phone back jump to Verizon and move on SIMPLE !

vboyz103 said:
Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it.
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Because ONE "flaw" with ONE phone (which is, by the the way, the FIRST batch of the FIRST generation of this phone) obviously means the company as a whole is just garbage?

go4the1 said:
Because ONE "flaw" with ONE phone (which is, by the the way, the FIRST batch of the FIRST generation of this phone) obviously means the company as a whole is just garbage?
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One phone? Uhhh.......

EtherealRemnant said:
One phone? Uhhh.......
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yes, this is the EVO 4G forum. When I say one phone I think it's implied I'm talking about the model as a whole.

go4the1 said:
yes, this is the EVO 4G forum. When I say one phone I think it's implied I'm talking about the model as a whole.
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You emphasized one phone as if meaning to say that HTC hasn't ****ed up on just about every other phone they've ever put out as well...

IMO the grass is not greener at Samsung. I have had the i760 and the Moment and each time I swapped them for the HTC equivilent at the time.
Every device has issues, but at least HTC hacks are much easier to come by...the evidence is in the size of the XDA forums.
The only thing I like better about Samsung is that the hardware is less flimsey, but HTC has gotten better at it over the last year.

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You emphasized one phone as if meaning to say that HTC hasn't ****ed up on just about every other phone they've ever put out as well...
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I emphasized "one" phone because when you translate his post to English, the rant is:
The entire company "HTC" is crap as a whole because one of their phones has a 30fps cap on graphics.
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...which is obviously untrue.

Guys, we know that the cap is software imposed. It can be fixed. Sure, HTC screwed up by imposing a 30FPS cap, but nothing matches the QQing the iPhone 4 users are making right now. (Seriously, glass back and front? Antennae shorting?)
Basically, the cap will be broken completely soon. It is HTC's fault they imposed such a dumb cap in the first place, but calling the company crap because of that is kind of uncalled for.

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Guys, we know that the cap is software imposed. It can be fixed. Sure, HTC screwed up by imposing a 30FPS cap, but nothing matches the QQing the iPhone 4 users are making right now. (Seriously, glass back and front? Antennae shorting?)
Basically, the cap will be broken completely soon. It is HTC's fault they imposed such a dumb cap in the first place, but calling the company crap because of that is kind of uncalled for.
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+1 exactly my point.
OP, play with an evo for a few minutes and then try to say that the (temporary) 30fps cap really makes a difference to the overall experience of the device.

Just go buy the droid x and don't spend your precious time here to tell us how you hate HTC and the EVO because you have so much experience with the Droid X to says its so much better.
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You know, I bought this phone cash for 500 bucks... I'm a big gamer and would really like to play most of the 3d games gameloft has to offer and with the evo capped at 30 frp second, I'm **** out of luck! CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, but i want my moneys worth and for the look HTC does not care to fix this issue. I just hope the galaxy s delivers where the evo failed to. And for the record, I bought ASPHAL 5 for my evo on the second day I owned it and IT PLAYS LIKE ****!!!! It did not have to come here to figure this out.

EtherealRemnant said:
Samsung has pledged to focus more on their Android devices so I would imagine that their past issues with not updating will be resolved...
I'm really wanting the Galaxy S Pro... It takes every other Android phone to task.
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I'm actually waiting to see how thick the S Pro is. If it is pretty thin I might check it out, even though I will probably never use the hardware keyboard. The GPU alone looks to be kicking all kinds of ass.

Kshawn said:
I feel what you guys are saying, but how many of us would have known about this issue so early on had it not been for the members here bringing it to our attention, I would have probably caught it later on and not so soon. And yes it is very snappy with the hack.
Also I'm pretty sure sprint is only getting the QWERTY flavored Galaxy S. Samsung also doesn't have a very good track record with keeping up with their devices on a timely fashion. I left MOMENT due to that and went HTC, not like sprint has an variety of big named devices anyway. I'm pretty sure emailing HTC at this point is a waste of time seeing as they already stated they capped it for *their* reasons. This isn't a problem for me since the devs are working on fixes even tho it isn't their job. I'm not an average user so tweaking and twiddling with my phone is all good for me. But I can see how to an average user this would be an issue if they even decide to care.
I really don't know how any of you guys expect to by any smart phone or gadget for that matter and have it work flawlessly without fault. I still can't get over people getting bent about some light warpage that you only see in dark areas but hey thats just me.
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You know, I bought this phone cash for 500 bucks... I'm a big gamer and would really like to play most of the 3d games gameloft has to offer and with the evo capped at 30 frp second, I'm **** out of luck! CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, but i want my moneys worth and for the look HTC does not care to fix this issue. I just hope the galaxy s delivers where the evo failed to. And for the record, I bought ASPHAL 5 for my evo on the second day I owned it and IT PLAYS LIKE ****!!!! It did not have to come here to figure this out.

^Do you really need to post that twice?

I totally get that you want your monies worth, I mean who doesn't right? Also as stated we all would have figured it out sooner or later on our own about the caps one way or another. And yes I agree the cap is nonsense and we shouldn't just "make due" but if you bought the evo as a means for serious gaming I think you picked up the wrong device . But all In all I get everyone's point

adelaney said:
You're crap dude. Change your tampon.
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Oh snap! lol I'll be laughing about this remark til tomorrow.

Godbye Rhodium

Loved you very much. Moved onto a Backflip. Couldn't take the lack of support for the speaker on Android. For those of you looking for an Android phone I recommend the Backflip... It's slicker, and even better: it's free with a new plan on AT&T
Even still good luck with this Android port.
If anyone wants to buy a used T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 I'm selling it on eBay and it's only at 125$ bidding so far...

The backflip is literally the worst Android phone made. Just trying searching google or side loading apps on it. You will be unpleasantly surprised.

Yeah, I'm moving to a iPhone next week and will also be putting my TP2 on eBay. Good luck on ur eBay auction.
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LOL
There is a reason that with a new contract the backflip is free and the TP2 is still $250....
Motorola makes crap.

wow
this thread is pointless

It's ok, I just got a TP2 so there will always be new users!

no one cares... what is this? craigslist? go advertise somewhere else.

wow just wow
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Loved you very much. Moved onto a Backflip. Couldn't take the lack of support for the speaker on Android. For those of you looking for an Android phone I recommend the Backflip... It's slicker, and even better: it's free with a new plan on AT&T
Even still good luck with this Android port.
If anyone wants to buy a used T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 I'm selling it on eBay and it's only at 125$ bidding so far...
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ok honestly you just made the WORST decision in history! why the heck would you drop the TP2 for the crappiest phone on the planet? slicker and better is more like uglier and horrible, worst perfomance, and of course Android Market is locked down, you cant load any third party apps! and why you didnt get the Aria? its 10000x more better but whatever and moving to a backflip just because you couldnt get speaker support on the Android port is a real unacceptable excuse, its a PORT! TouchPro2 was made for Windows Mobile, dont expect the devs to make everything to work in one shot, it seems like you insulted the port project by moving to an actual android because lack of sound, dont worry youll regret the whole decision!
ugh my venting session is done -.- total pointless thread, sorry but i just had to rant, because thats the worst decision ive seen from a consumer

xero_racer, roast much lol, I agree with you and all, cause Im like big time trying my best to get the sound working, and I am a noob when it comes to all of this, but im still tryin cause I speak tiny amounts of C++.and I can usually figure stuff out, and this kinda upset me cause that just makes me feel like i'm wasting my time towards something that people wont appreciate...

@reefer
Yeah. I haven't heard anything good about the Motorola Droid or the Droid X. /s
Just because one phone cost more than another doesn't mean squat.
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I haven't heard anything good about the Motorola Droid or the Droid X. /s
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Odd. The droid is one of the best performing phones on the market, period. The build quality is unusually high for Motorola. I'm sure the Droid X follows suit, the specs are nothing to laugh at.
Motorola Android phones that have extremely LOW build quality and are also low spec'ed:
Cliq
Cliq XT
Backflip

always liked the nexus one for a native android phone, just not a phone i feel like buying though.

Nice. Motorola's cell phones almost shut their entire mobile division down. The droid was their saving grace, but the backflip and the cliq have been plagued with problems, including a possible lack of upgradability to eclair without rooting. Lack of sound is to be expected in a build that's still in development, I hope you didn't get this pone with the sole intent of installing android.
Sorry about your lack of taste, but you should expect to be flamed when opening a thread bashing an excellent piece of hardware.

ive been thinking about switching to an android phone. but not a backflip. its horrible. its slow, ugly, outdated, have you tried using that thing they call a keyboard? my brother has an aria and i love it, but id prefer something like a touch pro 2 with android. i might settle in the future for something like a nexus one with an htc sense rom. a sense rom is whats tempting.

Have u ever used a backflip or cliq?
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cashless said:
The backflip is literally the worst Android phone made. Just trying searching google or side loading apps on it. You will be unpleasantly surprised.
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Totally second that lol

what about the Samsung Epic 4G. It has almost the same form factor as the tp2 but a larger screen.
I cant wait to get that in gsm.

The Backflip is not that bad depending on what type of user you are. If you active in this forum then most likely it is not the phone for you. My wife got one and she loves it. She is not a power user though. She likes to make phone calls, text messaging, the occasional photo upload, very light web surfing and facebook. She has no interest in side loading apps or any of that other stuff. For her the backflip suites all of her need.
For anyone else here that would like to switch over to a native Android phone I suggest you take a look at the Samsung Captivate. It is a highly anticipated phone and is supposed to be just as powerful as the Droid X. It releases this coming sunday the 18th of July. For those of you who can't live without a keyboard then you maybe out of luck cause the Backflip is the only Android phone on AT&T witih a keyboard.
I myself am a power user who needs the latest and greatest in both hardware and software. I though have grown very tired of Windows Mobile and the daily reboots just to keep it running well enough to use. I am also out of patients waiting for a full working port of Android. The developers here do an awsome job and I am not puttingi them down. I just want to switch to Android and I want to do it yesterday. I to have put my Tilt 2 up on Ebay and will be purchasing the Captivate this coming Sunday.

Samsung Epic 4G/Captivate/Vibrant/Fascinate (all versions of the Samsung Galaxy S) looks like the go-to phone if you're leaving XDAndroid. I'll probably be getting the Vibrant once it's released on T-mo.
Nothing against the Rhodium, but mine's beat up (probably only good for parts) and I don't normally keep a phone as long as I've kept this one. If anyone needs a t-mobile Touch Pro 2 for parts or whatever, PM me after the 15th.

Woah
Am i missing something or did any one realize he spelled goodbye wrong?

Talked to a cell phone rep... wasn't encouraging

My wife and I were at the mall today and I went into a Rogers store (Canadian cell provider), and was comparing the Focus to my Quantum.
A sales monkey came over to see if I needed help and we started chatting. I asked him if the wp7's had been selling he kinda laughed nervously and said he hasn't seen a rep sell one yet. He mentioned that one concern is the lack of multi-tasking. I kinda find that hard to believe. That used to be the rallying cry of all anti-apple people, yet they sold like crazy. And I've yet to see one 'in the wild'. Anecdotal I know, but kinda disappointing. I think it's a fantastic OS, I thought more people would be into it.

Many people are into it.
The sales man is only a sales man. He only wants to sell you what ever he thinks he can make money off.
As it stands the multitasking functionality is about the same as the iphone, but with MANGO on its way, that will be fixed.

Don't worry, generally sales rep don't know what they are talking about, they just know the basic/general stuffs.

If I'm the sales officer,I would not reckon this device to any customer,until 2nd gen of devices or mango are released.
@FooisM, most of the consumers not even know what is WP7,so,whats the point telling them about Mango?lol....
@JC_agga, yea true,they just know basic and general stuffs,that is what ordinary or normal customers want.

you have to do your own homework... sales ppl will sell u what they suppose to or get more commission or old stocks....
i changed 3 Bluray 3D DVD players in past 4 months, as i trusted the sales man....

truffle1234 said:
you have to do your own homework... sales ppl will sell u what they suppose to or get more commission or old stocks....
i changed 3 Bluray 3D DVD players in past 4 months, as i trusted the sales man....
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Either that or what they know actually works and has full functionality. Just a thought.

xsteven77x said:
Either that or what they know actually works and has full functionality. Just a thought.
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Not around here sadly. From the few stores around my place, if you don't have an Iphone, that makes you an idiot to them.

To be fair even after all the debacle i've been through with my Omnia 7 I would still reccomend WP7. The OS is just fantastic.
Samsung phones however... I will not reccomend!

Freypal said:
To be fair even after all the debacle i've been through with my Omnia 7 I would still reccomend WP7. The OS is just fantastic.
Samsung phones however... I will not reccomend!
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Agree perfectly!!!!!! OS brilliant! Samsung has let me downnnnn hardware problems to often!

I love my sammy Focus. When I went to the ATT store to get my wife the same phone, the salesman said good things about the phone, asked me about my experience. I didn't get any anti-wp7 vibe from my att store, but ymmv. By the time I decide to make a purchase, I find that I generally know a lot more about the items than the saleperson. Not always, not generally so.

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I love my sammy Focus. When I went to the ATT store to get my wife the same phone, the salesman said good things about the phone, asked me about my experience. I didn't get any anti-wp7 vibe from my att store, but ymmv. By the time I decide to make a purchase, I find that I generally know a lot more about the items than the saleperson. Not always, not generally so.
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In Portugal when I went to buy my Omnia 7in January the salesguy had a Mozart and he loved it, almost forced me into WP7.. LOL
No regrets about the OS nor about Samsung... My Omnia is running 7392 always officially updated and no problems so far...

Yeah, I don't know why ppl complain about Samsung. I think they're a great hardware company and I'm very happy with my Omnia 7. Before I had a Samsung Wave with bada, and it was nice too !! No problems at all !!
I didn't have any problems with the update on the Omnia 7 as well.

Well, if he is a cell phone salesman he is either very young probably not very knowledgeable or if older probably made a lot of mistakes in life to end up at that point.... In either event I wouldn't worry about it. Just enjoy your phone and rock on.

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Well, if he is a cell phone salesman he is either very young probably not very knowledgeable or if older probably made a lot of mistakes in life to end up at that point.... In either event I wouldn't worry about it. Just enjoy your phone and rock on.
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LOL that's horrible!

isn't this like letting a car sales man telling you what to buy? If you're going to lay down 500$ you better do your research before walking into any store (or you deserve what you get).

TIGGAH said:
Well, if he is a cell phone salesman he is either very young probably not very knowledgeable or if older probably made a lot of mistakes in life to end up at that point.... In either event I wouldn't worry about it. Just enjoy your phone and rock on.
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That was amazing.

share any of your sales issues here
cheerio

The Samsung Galaxy Nexus and the launch that could have been

http://androidandme.com/2011/11/dev...xy-nexus-and-the-launch-that-could-have-been/
I agree 110%. Still amazes me a company can botch this as badly as its been done.
And as soon as we get them in out hands, we'll all laugh and forget about this.

that was a fantastic article Dustin put together

Simply brilliant. The article summed up what will undoubtedly become known as the Great GNex Clusterf--k. As pukemon suggested in another thread, the hype is losing steam and potential customers are beginning to look elsewhere. Way to go, Google/Samsung/Verizon!

seems everyone here is forgetting that google will never market the Nexus like the iphone. This phone is for "US". Its not the most anticipated device of the yr, come on. Nexus One, Nexus S, little promotion. They not even trying to compete with the iphone. Its a Tech geek phone. Nobody in the real world knows about it

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http://androidandme.com/2011/11/dev...xy-nexus-and-the-launch-that-could-have-been/
I agree 110%. Still amazes me a company can botch this as badly as its been done.
And as soon as we get them in out hands, we'll all laugh and forget about this.
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too little too late indeed
SGS2 took all the spotlight this year

So a few weeks back i decided i was going to buy the latest greatest phone, which i have never done before. I did a little research and decided i would get the galaxy nexus when it came out, and to my surprise in just a couple of months lucky me!
I am a gamer and i am used to waiting years for the things i want. I read some forums of phone junkies and they are being huge babies about a couple of weeks WTF chill out.

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too little too late indeed
SGS2 took all the spotlight this year
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And as soon as the new year comes in we'll all be anticipating the SGS3.

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So a few weeks back i decided i was going to buy the latest greatest phone, which i have never done before. I did a little research and decided i would get the galaxy nexus when it came out, and to my surprise in just a couple of months lucky me!
I am a gamer and i am used to waiting years for the things i want. I read some forums of phone junkies and they are being huge babies about a couple of weeks WTF chill out.
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I think the frustration. Is mostly due to the lack of info not the actual release
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Looking on the bright side, more devices announced with "better" specs mean the price for Nexus can't be too high, or people would turn away from it and buy phones with the same high price but "better" specs. Google/Samsung will reduce the price to make it competitive with recently announced phones.

I feel the same way. Google dropped the ball. I hope they go with HTC for the next Nexus
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what the **** is the deal with the google/samsung/"verizon??"
its already been anounced that it wont be a verizon exclusive

The Nexus meant to be a guideline for where Google wants the direction of Android to go on phones and a baseline for developers to target. If Google tried to make it into the pinnacle of Android they would likely upset all their OEMs. Google doesn’t want to compete with the companies which are distributing their platform.
Neither Google nor Samsung really wants the Nexus to be a big seller, they just want it as a marketing tool. As for Verizon…who cares?

I agree. It's the details that are driving me nuts! I returned my GS2 before my 30 days were up, and I really liked the phone. I went back to using my Nexus One, and boy does it suck to go so far back. I've almost thrown it twice! I've always enjoyed the Nexus line due to pure android and quick updates.
I scour the internet multiple times every day for the past few weeks. I just want to know the bloody launch date for the US, where I can buy it, and whether or not the US will get the HSPA+ version right away? Is that so much to ask for?

JustusIV said:
I am a gamer and i am used to waiting years for the things i want. I read some forums of phone junkies and they are being huge babies about a couple of weeks WTF chill out.
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if you are into games, you should seriously reconsider
most games out there are develop for the Exynos (Hummingbird) CPU
if you go for this phone, your choices of good games will be greatly chopped in 50% or more

AllGamer said:
if you are into games, you should seriously reconsider
most games out there are develop for the Exynos (Hummingbird) CPU
if you go for this phone, your choices of good games will be greatly chopped in 50% or more
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If he's that into games, he probably wants something with a keyboard/mouse or a controller

bmstrong said:
http://androidandme.com/2011/11/dev...xy-nexus-and-the-launch-that-could-have-been/
I agree 110%. Still amazes me a company can botch this as badly as its been done.
And as soon as we get them in out hands, we'll all laugh and forget about this.
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Great article. Now people have no idea about when the phone will be released and how much it will be. We are even not sure about if we can get a unlocked version when the phone is launched. Google has the worst marketing team IMO, they failed chrome book now they are trying to fail nexus again.

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If Google tried to make it into the pinnacle of Android they would likely upset all their OEMs.
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The Nexus One did exactly that. It was for it's time the pinnacle and it did upset OEMs. Even so, the Android world is better for it.
I personally think that they should have released a spec monster and "encouraged" OEMs to try to exceed it.

bears said:
Great article. Now people have no idea about when the phone will be released and how much it will be. We are even not sure about if we can get a unlocked version when the phone is launched. Google has the worst marketing team IMO, they failed chrome book now they are trying to fail nexus again.
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well at least with any Nexus phone you are Guaranteed 100% Unlocked, and easy Root via stock Bootloader

AllGamer said:
well at least with any Nexus phone you are Guaranteed 100% Unlocked, and easy Root via stock Bootloader
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yes, that is the point I am trying to make. A nexus is always unlocked, with the most updated Android system But a company like Google should not have such a poor marketing strategy: The HK event grabs everyone's eyeballs, but no body has any idea about the release date for the GSM version in US at all. Verizon may get it before or after TG; the launch of UK GN may be delayed; Verizon may have an exclusion period, etc. There are too many rumors because Google itself have no idea about its own product.
However, I will get a GN, I really want the ICS

luffyp said:
Looking on the bright side, more devices announced with "better" specs mean the price for Nexus can't be too high, or people would turn away from it and buy phones with the same high price but "better" specs. Google/Samsung will reduce the price to make it competitive with recently announced phones.
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I'm suffering because my wife's N1 died and she's eyeing mine. She doesn't want "huge" screen and was looking for a used N1 so I found one for her...mine as soon as I can get a new phone. So, I'm in a bind.
I've put a line in the sand. December 1st I'm buying an SGS2 or whatever else non-Moto is top of the line at the time.
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upyouratrix said:
I agree. It's the details that are driving me nuts! I returned my GS2 before my 30 days were up, and I really liked the phone. I went back to using my Nexus One, and boy does it suck to go so far back. I've almost thrown it twice! I've always enjoyed the Nexus line due to pure android and quick updates.
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I think that most of the people interested in the Galaxy Nexus could care less about the pure android experience. Don't we all root/ROM our phones? I rooted my N1 less than 24hrs after buying it and haven't looked back.
Since the SGS2 is already rooted and ROM'd, I don't care at all about the actual OS. ICS will be coming to the SGS2, question is will it come via ROM kitchen or OTA update. Either way, I'd be happy. Of course I'd be happier with the GN, but at this point I'm so frustrated with the lack of information that I'm buying whatever is available with the best hardware on December 1st.