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Mugen 3200mAh battery for TP2 works in EVO

In case you need an extended battery now, I can report success with a Mugen 3200mAh unit that was intended for a Sprint Touch Pro 2. It cost $70 or 80 when I bought it around Christmas time from an eBay vendor (couldn't find it anywhere else online). Turns out the person I got it for had a Touch Pro 1 and this battery was not compatible so it's been sitting around the house ever since. I just popped it into my EVO 4G and it works perfectly as far as I can tell. Boots up normally and is charging as expected. Of course the back plate does not fit over the fat battery so I left that off and replaced the jelly case which stretches over the whole thing well enough.

os10 said:
Of course the back plate does not fit over the fat battery so I left that off and replaced the jelly case which stretches over the whole thing well enough.
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can we see some pics?

Hero batteries work also.. a lot of HTC phone's use the same batteries. I have like 4 batteries for my evo lol
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280492889203&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
I bought these a while back.. worked great in my hero and work just as good in my evo. Plus now I have a standalone wall-charger. Took about a week or so to get here since its coming from Hong Kong.. But it was well worth the ~$10 for 2 batteries and a charger..

ok, i stole its soul for you.

well im glad i order mine from seidio since it comes with the back case but this is good info so i can pass my oem battery to my wife for hero hero with weak battery life

Lol. Nice evo . It's the humpback of xda.
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that is disgusting! but more power to you hahaha...lets hope seidio lets you buy just the ext battery cover

oh sweet mother of god i would feel all grossed out if i tried to handle my phone and it was all squishy at the parts that aren't touching the battery or the frame...
How's the battery life with the 3200? After doing some battery life tweaks and mods mine seems to almost be sufficent with the stocker, but it can always use some improvement.

If you don't mind sacrificing the case, I would try cutting a rectangle in it that would leave the protruding part of the battery exposed and let the case hug the phone the way its supposed to. If you cut it just right, the batt should stay in place since it looks like it has a bit of an edge for the case to grip on to.

I'M starting think I should just cancel my order for the 3500 battery and get me 2 1500. What do you guys think?
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I'm using the battery from my tp2 as a spare, and carry it in the smaller pocket in my jeans,i don't even feel it there sometimes. With battery tweaks and charging it in my car (usually around 30 min at a time), I only have to occasionally change to the 2nd battery. If you are sensitive to bulk, then go for 2 batteries to split the load, otherwise a bigger battery is more convenient.
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bwg2469 said:
I'M starting think I should just cancel my order for the 3500 battery and get me 2 1500. What do you guys think?
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Given some of the results from BatteryBoss, I'd say that the battery isn't going to perform at a full 3500mAh. It will still be more than an OEM battery, sure, but I couldn't justify doubling the size of the phone to put it in. You might be better off getting another OEM battery, HTC seems to give about 99% of what they say.

if that site batteryboss is accurate then Mugen's batteries are crap. twice the size for 50% more juice. however, some anecdotal evidence to the contrary: after buying the wrong one, i bought another Mugen extended battery that does work for the TP1 and the recipient is very happy with it. reports that the 3200mAh it lasts about twice as long as the OEM battery.
probably smart to just get another HTC 1500mAh. after the latest update battery drain is much less of an issue anyway.

So can I just go in to a sprint store and ask for a hero battery For free?
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Tundricles said:
So can I just go in to a sprint store and ask for a hero battery For free?
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and if that works, try asking them for a handful of money.

bwg2469 said:
I'M starting think I should just cancel my order for the 3500 battery and get me 2 1500. What do you guys think?
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The batteries + charger that was listed earlier in this thread work GREAT I've been using them for a few days now great freaking deal ($10 shippped)

Anyone know if the Tilt battery here will fit the Evo with a modified case / back plate? http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Extended-Li-Ion-Battery-RHOD170/dp/B002Y24MJ2
I know Seidio makes a modified back plate that looks like it would fit this and according to battery boss this is the gold standard of extended batteries.

Also confirmed, the Mugen 4500mAh battery for Sprint Touch Pro 2 works in the Evo as expected. It's very... thick. About as thick as the Evo with a jelly sleeve on. Put together it's like the Evo has it's own little podium to stand on.
Assuming batteryboss tests are accurate then true capacity is closer to 75% or ~3375mAh. Main purpose for me is a power supply that can run GPS tracking apps like Cardio Trainer all day uninterrupted. Thickness not an issue since the whole package is tucked away in a Camelback.
Got it on eBay, I don't know where else to find them. Mugen is OOS and ridiculously expensive anyway. An alternative would be an external battery pack that supplies power through a USB port, then cable it to Evo.

Changing batteries

Okay, so some guy that my co-workers know brought in a bag of cellphone chargers and cellphone batteries. There are 3 batteries that fit perfectly in the MyTouch slide, they're htc branded and I'm wondering if they'll be compatible with the MyTouch. I don't exactly know what to look for to tell if they are or aren't compatible.
Whatever you guys need to know that's on the batteries, just tell me and I'll post it.
Two of the batteries are red, so I'm assuming it's from the Droid Incredible and th third battery may be from an older htc phone because the battery says "htc innovation" whereas the red ones say just "htc" and the MyTouch's is also just "htc"
The 3 batteries are all 1500 mAh 5.55Whr Model: RHOD160
The MyTouch's battery is 1300 MAh 4.81Whr Model: BB00100
So from the information I gave you guys, tell me if it is compatible please

Yes they are compatable I've been using a hero battery for a while now
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I believe the G1s battery said "HTC INNOVATION" on it.

The g1 is old school bro
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The 3 batteries are all 1500 mAh 5.55Whr Model: RHOD160
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I've got this battery too. Bought it on eBay advertised as a Touch Pro 2 battery. I used it for a little until I realized it's too "thick" for the shallow battery space in the Slide. A few hours of charging that battery in my phone and my battery door seemed to warp a little. From that point on, if I used the stock battery, the door would squeak and creak. I don't use the TP2 battery anymore.

daewond3r said:
I've got this battery too. Bought it on eBay advertised as a Touch Pro 2 battery. I used it for a little until I realized it's too "thick" for the shallow battery space in the Slide. A few hours of charging that battery in my phone and my battery door seemed to warp a little. From that point on, if I used the stock battery, the door would squeak and creak. I don't use the TP2 battery anymore.
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Yeah, the batteries are a bit too big, but by a very little amount. I probably won't use the batteries then since I don't really want my batter door turning out like yours . I guess I'm gonna have to go back to conditioning the stock battery again.

jriv said:
The g1 is old school bro
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Ok? Your point is?

Anartic said:
Yeah, the batteries are a bit too big, but by a very little amount. I probably won't use the batteries then since I don't really want my batter door turning out like yours . I guess I'm gonna have to go back to conditioning the stock battery again.
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Yeah, it's not worth it. I conditioned my stock battery pretty well (completely dead, charged til light turned green, then 2 additional hours, 5 times) and it's getting awesome life. A full day of texting, calls, web browsing, and an hour or two of Pandora at work, with life to spare, no problem.

Opinions on the official verizon extended battery

What is your experience with the official extended battery for the inc2? Although I appreciate the thinness of the standard battery, but I wanted to know how exactly how much longer you'd say the extended battery lets your phone stay on. What about the thickness, it seems that most people on these forums actually appreciate a thicker incredible 2. I downloaded an app which keeps the battery percentage in the notification bar and it's really depressing to see how quickly the percentages drop while actually using the phone, on the standard battery.

Vzw extended battery gives me about 6 hours longer than the stock battery. Extra thickness doesn't bother me at all. Phone is noticeably lighter when I use stock battery.
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Thanks for the reply, you must have been at sea when you wrote this though

I have never used the stock battery, VZW sent me an extended battery (only) with my Fascinate replacement DInc2. My battery last a long time... Days...
The thickness is not bad, it is a bit concerning not having a case though...

Awesome, looks like I'll be getting one, once I ascertain that the gps issues I've been having are not phone related.

jwiner said:
I have never used the stock battery, VZW sent me an extended battery (only) with my Fascinate replacement DInc2. My battery last a long time... Days...
The thickness is not bad, it is a bit concerning not having a case though...
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I was ok without a case for a long time, but once you get one scratch, you just keep dropping the phone :-(
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Well, I got the battery and the capacity is ridiculously good. It could likely last me two days under regular use. But it is too thick. I think I will look into those slim extended batteries. Of course, if anyone wants to chime in on those, by all means.
According to another thread, the mugen 1800mah is pretty good. Is there any reason not to purchase it from ebay? It seems to be a bit cheaper
This link, for instance:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUGEN-1800m...ccessories&hash=item256718c88f#ht_6312wt_1139

jwiner said:
I have never used the stock battery, VZW sent me an extended battery (only) with my Fascinate replacement DInc2. My battery last a long time... Days...
The thickness is not bad, it is a bit concerning not having a case though...
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Same here (I bought an OEM battery from ebay for like 10 bucks though). I bought a 5 pack of TPU cases for 7.99 from ebay to cut out for use with my extended battery. Worked out excellent (sorry no pics right now), but the contour lines are the same on the ext battery, so you just have to exacto around that area to let the 'belly' stick through the newly cut case. It at least protects the edges/corners and screen (so you can lay the phone down upside down). Would recommend giving it a shot if you got a few extra bucks laying around; can't hurt if you ruin one or two cases. BTW, the cases I got are excellent TPU cases (fitment and protection) for both my extended and OEM battery....
I love extended battery. Two solid days of moderate/heavy use. I would say close to double the battery life of the OEM, although it's hard to quantify.

Was given the extended battery from Verizon when they sent me my Dinc2 as a replacement for my D2G. Since I have never had the regular battery, I can tell you that with my phone being rooted, all VZW crap frozen and medium/heavy use (camera for work, texts, email(gmail auto sync) phone calls), mine last me well into 3 days. Just wish there was a case for the extended battery. May just get the belt clip since you can place phone display inwards.

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Was given the extended battery from Verizon when they sent me my Dinc2 as a replacement for my D2G. Since I have never had the regular battery, I can tell you that with my phone being rooted, all VZW crap frozen and medium/heavy use (camera for work, texts, email(gmail auto sync) phone calls), mine last me well into 3 days. Just wish there was a case for the extended battery. May just get the belt clip since you can place phone display inwards.
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I can confirm this as well. Just beware, the thickness it adds to the phone is almost ugly. The extended case is an eye sore.
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I find that the extended batteries hump lends to a better grip on the phone.
If WiFi is on which is while home and work, at the end of the day approx 17 hours off charger I routinely have around 65% remaining. This is with about 3 hours of screen on, facebooking, web surfing, game playing and a few hours of music.
I have calibrated the battery yet. I honestly don't have that much time to let it drain all the way.
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I Want to Buy an Extended Battery But Which One???

Ive looked around abit and the reviews are mixed for all batteries.
I was wondering your guys honest opinion on a few ive looked at.
3500 mAh Gorilla Gadget: http://gorillagadgets.com/samsung-epic-4g-extended-battery-3500mah-with-back-plate.html
Hyperion 3500 mAh: http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-Sams...4JFS/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1324412744&sr=8-6
Seidio Innocell 3300 mAh: http://www.amazon.com/Seidio-Innoce...8EYM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1324412744&sr=8-3
Im mainly looking into Hyperion and Gorilla Gadget, Seidio is a bit expensive
i Currently can get 8-10 Hours with med-heavy usage depending on how much i game. i can probably get around 20 Hours with minimal use just texting and bare bones. im running Starskys Rom 1.5, Samurai 3.30 Ninja, NO OC/UV on VR l/0 scheduler and conservative. What would be the best battery to get out of those and is it honestly worth it?
Any suggestions are appreciated

I have been using the gorilla gadget battery for just under a year. I bought it because of the price. I still only seem to get 10 to 12 with heavy usage (work and personal phone) but with light usage I have gone 20+.
I am running CM7.
Keep in mind though it does take a nice light thin phone and bloats it. And it definitely adds some weight.
Doesn't fit in a pocket quite as comfortably as the stock battery Al though I have gotten used to it at this point.
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I'm using the epic touch battery. Fits like a glove and that little extra boost helps alot, especially using the battery sipping cyanogen rom
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b16flybye said:
I'm using the epic touch battery. Fits like a glove and that little extra boost helps alot, especially using the battery sipping cyanogen rom
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How is it compared to the 3500 mah batteries

I've heard that the Samsung 1800 mAh battery for the Epic Touch works just as well as the generic 3000mAh batteries.

Yeah, id have to say the 3500, with the added clutter isn't worth it but that's just my opinion. The 1800 pops right in and lasts a good 14 hours with a lot of usage.
Another thing to consider is where the battery is made. My factory 1500 was china, and the samsung 1800 I ordered was from japan. The difference and quality is noticeable.
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I'm using the gs2 battery as well and am perfectly happy with it.
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Here's the best option. The Seidio 3300 battery. This is the new version and uses all japanese cells, high quality.
But regardless of what extended batter you get, you must also purchass the Mugen extended batter door. This is by far the best extended batter door and feels perfit in my hands, I've held them all. Fits snuggly too.
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dertdeezy said:
Here's the best option. The Seidio 3300 battery. This is the new version and uses all japanese cells, high quality.
But regardless of what extended batter you get, you must also purchass the Mugen extended batter door. This is by far the best extended batter door and feels perfit in my hands, I've held them all. Fits snuggly too.
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Ok but is the seidio any good i mean compare that to the 3200 or 3500 mah mugen power one. i mean i already bought the gorilla gadget one ill be getting this tomorrow and see how good is i mean i didn't go wrong paying only 26.99 for it.
And does anybody know anything about the Hyperion battery?

If anyone has some suggestions how about mugen power batteries compared to OEM?

go read batteryboss.org
I got a pair of 8$ 3500's with a "3 year warranty" off ebay, that came with extended backs and a 4$ cradle charger for the second battery.
I get 24+ hours out of the phone and can game endlessly by swapping batteries if needed.
also the big battery feels great in the hands.

LargePrime said:
go read batteryboss.org
I got a pair of 8$ 3500's with a "3 year warranty" off ebay, that came with extended backs and a 4$ cradle charger for the second battery.
I get 24+ hours out of the phone and can game endlessly by swapping batteries if needed.
also the big battery feels great in the hands.
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Well all I know is right now I bought mine on the 20th it got processed on the 21st and I chose priority mail so 2 to 3 business days and said the expected delievery date was the 23rd and yet to recive my battery and to top it off the office for gorilla gadgets is closed from 22nd. To 26th Lovely
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Working at Boeing 12hrs a day, 7 days a week, I use the cheapy eBay extended batteries and covers and am able to stream solidly for at least 6hrs on each battery, which also includes the standard running apps in the background...SEVEN email, WhatsApp (which means I'm texting the GF in Dubai), TiKL and then the usual Sprint background services (voicemail, Market, etc that always run). I'm OC'ed at 1500mhz w/ MultiPicture Live Wallpaper running, always gettings texts and emails throughout the day. Point is, for $12 shipped for a battery w/ cover and a seperate wall charger for just the battery, I go through two batteries a day. One get close to dying around mid day, swap w/ the battery on the charger...rinse and repeat the next day

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Working at Boeing 12hrs a day, 7 days a week, I use the cheapy eBay extended batteries and covers and am able to stream solidly for at least 6hrs on each battery, which also includes the standard running apps in the background...SEVEN email, WhatsApp (which means I'm texting the GF in Dubai), TiKL and then the usual Sprint background services (voicemail, Market, etc that always run). I'm OC'ed at 1500mhz w/ MultiPicture Live Wallpaper running, always gettings texts and emails throughout the day. Point is, for $12 shipped for a battery w/ cover and a seperate wall charger for just the battery, I go through two batteries a day. One get close to dying around mid day, swap w/ the battery on the charger...rinse and repeat the next day
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See that's the problem i could do all that on my regular 1500 mAh battery and at the end of the day i'm drained out if not a little closer. Why have all that extra stuff run when its not needed. I mean i used my phone for a little bit like texts and a few calls last week my battery was at 75% with 12Hrs and that was regular battery 1500 mAh. I'm hoping to get better results with this 3500 mAh one

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See that's the problem i could do all that on my regular 1500 mAh battery and at the end of the day i'm drained out if not a little closer.
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I call BS.

XxLostSoulxX said:
See that's the problem i could do all that on my regular 1500 mAh battery and at the end of the day i'm drained out if not a little closer. Why have all that extra stuff run when its not needed. I mean i used my phone for a little bit like texts and a few calls last week my battery was at 75% with 12Hrs and that was regular battery 1500 mAh. I'm hoping to get better results with this 3500 mAh one
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I highly doubt that...when I was still stock, I could kill my battery within a few hours just playing Gameloft games. I find it incredibly hard to believe that you're streaming Pandora for 6+hrs and still have plenty of battery life left. As for what is or isn't needed, those are the things I use regularily...some would consider me a power user, always running overclocked, screen on full brightness when I use it, etc...so I'm guessing you're the type who is more concerned w/ battery life instead of performance. You admit you used your phone a little bit for texts, I use mine all the time for texts, both using Handcent for friends here in the U.S. and WhatsApp for my GF in Dubai...we have different battery needs, but I can guarantee your 1500mah isn't going to last longer than my 3500mah battery, generic or not.

Anker 7200 MAH Pix and Battery life test in progress.

So I was chatting with Anker due to needing to get a replacement for a 4400mah battery that started to swell at 12 months and they offered to let me join their power user group and test their new 7200Mah battery, I received the battery in exchange for a fair review which I will be providing here and on Amazon.
I plan on doing some testing using these to drain and monitor:
1) battery drain
2) battery monitor
I also plan on seeing what kind of real life I can get out of it.
I will do several pictures of the battery and case for width compared to an OEM, and a 4400 MAH batteries as well as the size installed.
I have the seidio active with kickstand case, and I'll also compare it to the otterbox defender for the s3.
anyone else have any suggestions on what they'd like to see let me know.
it came about 50% charged so It will take a bit to fill and I have to go visit my Mother in the hospital (heart surgery) so I'll probably end up charging it overnight.
My initial impression is that the case is probably the nicest TPU case I've used, it could be somewhat difficult with a sizable case to get in and out of your pocket, but the back is polished so it doesn't grab as much but the sides are textured so it is easy to grip and I'm not concerned about having it slide out of my hand. The weight is substantial compared to a phone in a case with the standard battery, it is noticeably heavier than the 4400 mah and the siedio rugged case. It does feel as though it would survive a fall but I'm not likely to test it.

Initial charge from 15% to full took 8:52 I'm going to start Battery Drain now and see how long it lasts. It will be set to GPS on but not locked, Screen Brightness 100%, Bluetooth on, Wi=Fi on, and CPU load which seems to draw around 700-800MA/H. Comparisons are available here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843896 The Mungen 4600 was tested at nearly 6 hrs and the anker 4400 5:19
3 hours into the test, 79% this would be about where the stock battery would give up normally.
runtime screenshots since this is kind of like watching paint dry since this battery lasts so long
68% after 4:32 min
Also 10 minute intervals for the charging and discharging.

this thing is unstoppable. still going 12+ hours later
there was around 40 minutes where a missed call kicked it off of battery drain as you can see but it still has 13% left at this point.
i'm going to have to rethink how to test this battery since it is lasting so long.

I let it keep going until it died last night, so it took a while to charge up today. Just over 1% an hour in normal use, which would put it over 3 days but less than 4 on one charge.
- 24 hours in: 3 hours screentime with internet use, updating apps, and other normal use. 74 % 1.1%usage per hour.
- 48 hours in: phone rebooted at 1d 9 hrs so not everything will look correct however I have added some shots of the built in battery use so you can see the chart and the screen use
- 72 hours in: 27% not much more to say, in fact just passed 80 hours and 15% left. i'll be charging at work tomorrow probably all day but i know it's not done yet.

How is the radio signals with this battery. One of the complaints on the Zerolemon 7000 is that it seems to interfere with LTE & phone antenna signals. Great job on reviewing the battery. I liked the case comparison photos. I'm using the seidio extended case right now with a 4400. I may get this Anker 7200.

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How is the radio signals with this battery. One of the complaints on the Zerolemon 7000 is that it seems to interfere with LTE & phone antenna signals. Great job on reviewing the battery. I liked the case comparison photos. I'm using the seidio extended case right now with a 4400. I may get this Anker 7200.
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I haven't noticed any signal issues, however I live in a good area, not fringe. I did a speed test and i have a shot of the signal as well. The combo you have is the same as what I use for extended battery. This is noticably heavier but the battery life is hard to believe. to make nearly 50 hours and be at 50% is crazy.

NFC active in the beast?

xhozt said:
NFC active in the beast?
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If you are asking if it comes with nfc, no, however I have an nfc sim for isis so I believe that it still works for me.
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No. Does nfc work with this battery? The nfc antenna is in the battery on our phones, the isis sim is another animal.
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No. Does nfc work with this battery? The nfc antenna is in the battery on our phones, the isis sim is another animal.
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I don't mean any disrespect but that's not completely correct.
as the phone comes stock the NFC antenna is included in the battery. However, if you are on verizon and install the sim for isis payments you can switch to a non NFC battery and still have NFC.
In fact if you check with verizon there are plenty of verizon phones that do not natively come with NFC who, by using the NFC sim, will be able to use NFC. It is also the reason that apple hasn't bothered to include nfc in iphones as all they will need is the NFC sim and it will work and it will be magical
so yes, in the stock battery and most replacements NFC is included. in this battery it is not. which is not an issue to me on verizon as I have the NFC sim which superceeds the NFC antenna on the battery.

I just went and picked up an NFC enabled sim card from Verizon. I'm trying to use it with one of my batteries that doesn't support NFC but I'm not having any success.
Is there anything special I need to do to get this working? I'm skeptical this will enable me to use NFC without an NFC enabled battery.
I'm running CM11 official 12/27 and confirm that NFC works with my NFC enabled battery. I cannot get NFC to work with the new isis sim card and a battery that lacks NFC.

Thanks for this post, I ordered one last night from Amazon.

amazing product great performance however a tad to bulky i recently switched down from my zerolemon extended battery to carrying a standard spare and a 5star america external battery charger

its really nice. i have pix in my thread if you are interested. seems like a durable and safe case for the phone.
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How is this compare to Zerolemon 7000mah? anyone compare those 2 batteries yet ?

SptMogul said:
How is this compare to Zerolemon 7000mah? anyone compare those 2 batteries yet ?
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I just received my Anker 7200, and am going to test it today. It arrived at 51% charge. I will run a side by side with the zero lemon for comparisons. I just ordered my ZL, now that they are in stock.
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Holy mother of god..what have you done to this beautiful phone, it looks totally ridicules

It has a huge storage capacity, but I think it makes the phone look too thick.

Mafioso said:
Holy mother of god..what have you done to this beautiful phone, it looks totally ridicules
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yeah i noticed that too.. i think 3 days battery life is overkill
i am thinking to just get extra regular battery that will fit with stock cover.

Just saying, shouldn't anyone who wants NFC buy a Hyperion or Zerolemon 7000 mAh battery instead? I am curious as if this one has any other advantages over the others besides the potential marginal gain of 200 mAh. The Hyperion is apparently the cheapest of the three at $34.99.