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Well basically I am getting charged for some of my text messages and I do not know why.
If I send a long text message will it send as a MMS???
THanks ... this is with T-Mobile
You need to speak to tmobile.
The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?
fakeuser456 said:
The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?
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Just like when you add a word tot he dictionary it will appear eith "Converting to MMS ..." once it is too long.
if memory serves, it's somewhere between 3 and 5 SMS messages in length where it changes to an MMS.
I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.
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I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.
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it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!
Raminder1992 said:
it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!
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Happened to me last week, NOT COOL!
is there a way around this ?
like a config option or something like that ?
is this specific to the desire or android ?
This is standard behaviour for all Android devices, and it applies to the stock messaging app. The reason for this, is that if you are going to send more than three SMSes, it will in most cases be cheaper to send an MMS. This does not of course apply when you have unlimited texts or other discounts.
Until this gets fixed, download a replacement from the market. Try chompSMS or Handcent SMS. The automatic conversion is optional in these.
ah ok
hope this gets fixed fast
using an alternative sms program such as handcent sms or chomp sms gives you the option to break up long text messages into seperate texts instead of converting to mms
Any known fix to this annoying issue yet? If you type a message that's longer than 3 sms:es it automatically converts the message into a mms message. Normally I wouldn't care about a "small" issue like this, it's just that I have free sms and I pay for mms messages.
Google said this have been fixed in Froyo, and yes it seems they're absolutely right since the problem is gone on the Nexus one & most other phones running 2.2.
But nothing have changed on the Desire, the problem is still there... Sometimes I wonder if the Desire is running an eclair/froyo hybrid and that HTC have just manipulated the numbers in the "about" screen.
Sigh...
I can type upto 5 sms before it convert into mms.. stock Froyo here
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Download Handcent.
I'm not saying you should switch to it completely (I wont, Stock SMS looks so much better) but you'll benefit from:
- Pattern/Pin lock for SMS messages (even for Stock SMS Program)
- For the rare occasions you're sending a long message, cut from stock SMS, paste into handcent and it shouldn't convert to MMS.
brummiesteven said:
Download Handcent.
I'm not saying you should switch to it completely (I wont, Stock SMS looks so much better) but you'll benefit from:
- Pattern/Pin lock for SMS messages (even for Stock SMS Program)
- For the rare occasions you're sending a long message, cut from stock SMS, paste into handcent and it shouldn't convert to MMS.
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I know it's good and have lots of features, I've tried handcent before but I agree stock HTC SMS app looks so much better so I uninstalled it after a few days. But I might give your suggestion a try, thanks
handcent actually have a setting not to auto convert sms to mms...
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its 5 here as well, it is meant to reduce expenses, because (here at least) if you set six messages it will cost more than one mms, hence the converting.
is it related to the sim card and the network preferences? maybe, but if it is than it should detect if you have free SMS and not convert.
either ways i think you should have an option to turn it on/off.
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irkan said:
its 5 here as well, it is meant to reduce expenses, because (here at least) if you set six messages it will cost more than one mms, hence the converting.
is it related to the sim card and the network preferences? maybe, but if it is than it should detect if you have free SMS and not convert.
either ways i think you should have an option to turn it on/off.
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I have an sms-flat --> mms more expensive. But all in all not a too bad idea if you pay for every single sms...
Firstly, I would like to pay respect to the developers who mapped the hardware button for the camera app. Respect to you all. Starting this thread hoping those same geniuses would be able to solve this problem. Android generally has this crazy notion that if i want to send a long sms, it will be cheaper for me to send an mms. I get like unlimited sms but i gotta pay for each mms i send so everytime i need to send a long sms, it costs me money. plus, if the recipient does not have mms configured, its money lost from my side and nothing recieved on theirs. so is there any way to stop the native messaging app from converting sms to mms after 3 sms length.
currently using Handcent sms for long sms but its a pain and it crashes often.
Waqas said:
Firstly, I would like to pay respect to the developers who mapped the hardware button for the camera app. Respect to you all. Starting this thread hoping those same geniuses would be able to solve this problem. Android generally has this crazy notion that if i want to send a long sms, it will be cheaper for me to send an mms. I get like unlimited sms but i gotta pay for each mms i send so everytime i need to send a long sms, it costs me money. plus, if the recipient does not have mms configured, its money lost from my side and nothing recieved on theirs. so is there any way to stop the native messaging app from converting sms to mms after 3 sms length.
currently using Handcent sms for long sms but its a pain and it crashes often.
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uhm.
why would a long sms convert to a mms?
I've never seen this happen.
Have no idea why this happens. if i use "MyPhoneExplorer" to compose sms on pc and send them, this problem doesn't occur. tonight, i decided to send a long sms directly from my phone and i saw that it converts to mms. so decided to google it and it appears Xplay isn't the only phone with this problem. a quick browse on google shows that loads of device owners are frustrated by this. check it out on your stock device as mine is stock also. just bootloader unlocked and rooted ;-)
Yea, mine does the same, bootloader locked, and does it un-rooted and rooted.
Very annoying. You'd think sony ericsson would have made this an option.
But i did have this issue with 2.1 on my motorola milestone.
mine just gives me a notification saying it will send 2 SMS, it even counts down hoow many characters i have left until it adds another SMS to it (only when below 20 character left)
AriStar said:
mine just gives me a notification saying it will send 2 SMS, it even counts down hoow many characters i have left until it adds another SMS to it (only when below 20 character left)
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Its after lyk 4 or 5 sms's it turns it into a mms, i can confirm every android phone i have had (hero, desire, desire hd and xplay) have all done this, i resorted to sending half an sms then writing the other half n sending that lol
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I just tested mine to 5 sms. All it does it countdown how many characters I have left for each sms, and then adds another sms.
Converting into an mms sounds like a cheap trick to make more money by some carriers.
I am with Vodafone Uk and they don't use this trick yet it seems, although thanks for this post because now I will be keeping an eye out for this.
Still don't see it as much of a problem though. Just send one sms at a time?
Happens often here (when going into 4th txt), I just break messages down not to get stung with a MMS charge.
It can be annoying as when breaking the message down you can get a reply from the other side before they have read the full message, which can cause confusion.
Laird_Attwood said:
Happens often here (when going into 4th txt), I just break messages down not to get stung with a MMS charge.
It can be annoying as when breaking the message down you can get a reply from the other side before they have read the full message, which can cause confusion.
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We are both from the uk it seems.
I'm with vodafone and running 2.3.2 still.
Who are you with?
dsswoosh said:
I just tested mine to 5 sms. All it does it countdown how many characters I have left for each sms, and then adds another sms.
Converting into an mms sounds like a cheap trick to make more money by some carriers.
I am with Vodafone Uk and they don't use this trick yet it seems, although thanks for this post because now I will be keeping an eye out for this.
Still don't see it as much of a problem though. Just send one sms at a time?
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Try expressing your feelings to your GF one message at a time...
Have you tried writing the whole message, copy/cutting half of it, sending half then quickly pasting and sending the rest? Or email/call the person lol? It might just be me but my texts are pretty small.
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Waqas said:
Try expressing your feelings to your GF one message at a time...
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"Taking you shopping, get some new shoes. I love you."
Seems to fit all into 1 text to me.
This post is not for advice on how to limit my sms size. Rather its to try come up with a solution to this problem
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Waqas said:
This post is not for advice on how to limit my sms size. Rather its to try come up with a solution to this problem
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Well the solution is to go with a network provider that doesn't adopt this cheap tactic.
Alternatively, telephone them and threaten legal action with demand for all lost money sent on mms.
Changing an sms into an mms can not possibly be legal.
dsswoosh said:
We are both from the uk it seems.
I'm with vodafone and running 2.3.2 still.
Who are you with?
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SIM free device on 2.3.3
dsswoosh said:
Well the solution is to go with a network provider that doesn't adopt this cheap tactic.
Alternatively, telephone them and threaten legal action with demand for all lost money sent on mms.
Changing an sms into an mms can not possibly be legal.
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It's not something the network controls, its a Android thing.
I guess it make sense to people in the states and how most contracts work over there.
It is annoying though.
Laird_Attwood said:
It's not something the network controls, its a Android thing.
I guess it make sense to people in the states and how most contracts work over there.
It is annoying though.
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Why does my Xperia Play not do it then?
What makes mine different, other than the network providers own software?
It has to be a network provider setup?
I can't imagine an android stock rom ever having this feature.
Waqas said:
Firstly, I would like to pay respect to the developers who mapped the hardware button for the camera app. Respect to you all. Starting this thread hoping those same geniuses would be able to solve this problem. Android generally has this crazy notion that if i want to send a long sms, it will be cheaper for me to send an mms. I get like unlimited sms but i gotta pay for each mms i send so everytime i need to send a long sms, it costs me money. plus, if the recipient does not have mms configured, its money lost from my side and nothing recieved on theirs. so is there any way to stop the native messaging app from converting sms to mms after 3 sms length.
currently using Handcent sms for long sms but its a pain and it crashes often.
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Your welcome for the camera XD It can now be found if you click the little android market logo at the top of the xperia play game menu when you slide the keypad out.
Back on-topic, I just successfully send a 6 sms long message, on 2.3.2 and with Three
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Why does my Xperia Play not do it then?
What makes mine different, other than the network providers own software?
It has to be a network provider setup?
I can't imagine an android stock rom ever having this feature.
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Ok just to make a few things clear. I noticed this problem on my Xplay which has a stock rom 2.3.2 and i got it sim-free. i have tried it with several different vendors, like vodafone UK, 3, O2 and international vendors in Pakistan as well. Also, i've tried composing a message with no sim in it and still have the same problem. So its a problem with the OS and not network related. Saw the same problem on a stock Galaxy S Sim-free.
So Devs, please find a solution to this if possible.
dsswoosh said:
Why does my Xperia Play not do it then?
What makes mine different, other than the network providers own software?
It has to be a network provider setup?
I can't imagine an android stock rom ever having this feature.
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how can it be network providers?
I got my handset SIM free (generic UK rom) and have used a few networks. it does it on all of them. and reports of it being the same on other Android devices.
It is nothing to do with networks, it Android OS.
How do you disable the phone app from asking you if you wanna accept a call...think I might know the answer to that one..and can you raise the limit on text message length...having to send...then write a new one to finish..thanks
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So what are you wanting from the phone app? To automatically answer calls when they come in? Not understanding.
What message limit are you hitting? There is a standard 160 character limit per message on SMS but you can chain together multiple messages.
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I don't understand question 1.
For texts, you just type your text as long as you want. It automatically gets broken up into multiple texts and sends. You don't have to do this yourself.
The phone deal was Google voice...call screening was on....but the text messages aren't breaking up....its cool..I'll just install a different SMS app....thanks though
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armdavid2 said:
The phone deal was Google voice...call screening was on....but the text messages aren't breaking up....its cool..I'll just install a different SMS app....thanks though
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Sprint text app is set to convert sms to mms instead of splitting up after character limit.
Hello, i just got my glide yesterday and i text quite a bit and when i have no new text it has a 1 still on the app icon is there any fix to this?
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Hello, i just got my glide yesterday and i text quite a bit and when i have no new text it has a 1 still on the app icon is there any fix to this?
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I was noticing this if I did not go into the text and just read it from the preview. Just go to the text and it should remove the +1. I also use SMS popup and that fixes the issue with the reading of texts.
I use handcent and just disable the stock messaging app.
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I've been noticing that mine has been being screwy here lately. So I've just switched to gosms so
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Is there any app that lets you send SMS without getting charged for an SMS. I have 125 SMS to send in a month and I have come close to surpass this. I was wondering if there was a way to send SMS for free with out using my plans SMS. I do not mean use messaging apps that both parties need to have installed. I mean an app that works via the internet and sends SMS server side so as not to cost me any SMS fees. Anyone know of such?
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Is there any app that lets you send SMS without getting charged for an SMS. I have 125 SMS to send in a month and I have come close to surpass this. I was wondering if there was a way to send SMS for free with out using my plans SMS. I do not mean use messaging apps that both parties need to have installed. I mean an app that works via the internet and sends SMS server side so as not to cost me any SMS fees. Anyone know of such?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gogii.textplus
This is what my sister uses.
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I also disabled the stock app, and chose GoSMS.
dudejb said:
Is there any app that lets you send SMS without getting charged for an SMS. I have 125 SMS to send in a month and I have come close to surpass this. I was wondering if there was a way to send SMS for free with out using my plans SMS. I do not mean use messaging apps that both parties need to have installed. I mean an app that works via the internet and sends SMS server side so as not to cost me any SMS fees. Anyone know of such?
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google voice
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google voice
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Unfortuantely Google voice does not work in Canada for sending out Text messages for free. I tried this already. I had it send 2 text messages and I was charged to them as though my phone sent it and I was charged for sending a text to US as well.
Seriously, textplus
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dudejb said:
Unfortuantely Google voice does not work in Canada for sending out Text messages for free. I tried this already. I had it send 2 text messages and I was charged to them as though my phone sent it and I was charged for sending a text to US as well.
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That could just as easily be you're-not-using-it-right. A quick way to test: put your phone in airplane mode, then re-enable Wi-Fi (with airplane mode still on) and connect to a working AP. If you're set up correctly you'll still be able to send messages through the GV app. (And it won't sit on "Sending...", it'll actually deliver the message.) And you shouldn't be charged for it.
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Unfortuantely Google voice does not work in Canada for sending out Text messages for free. I tried this already. I had it send 2 text messages and I was charged to them as though my phone sent it and I was charged for sending a text to US as well.
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that sucks. i recently noticed i can text my friend in canada now. when i started using gv on my wifi only devices, none of my texts would go through to her. that was about 2 years ago. i dont know when they started allowing it but about a month ago we tried again and it works. im in the us. try the suggested wifi/ap mode thing. thats my usual setup anyways.