New Best Blutooth Headset! - EVO 4G Accessories

In my never ending search for the ultimate BT headset, I have a new favorite; the Blueant Q2..
Just came out a few weeks ago, and, not easily available, except at ATT retail stores, this guy has it all; best sound, clear and loud, wonderful, lightweight fit, no breakup while walking around, and some awesum interactive features, BING 411 being the most notable..
Blows away my Jawbone Icon, tons better than the T1, and, frankly, I am totally impressed in the one day I have had it.
Its expensive, at 129, but, I am sure it will be around 100 bucks once they start shipping them in earnest.
Dont miss out on this one....

I'm planning on picking up one of these next month when I get my FinAid reimbursement back from the Govt. Hopefully I don't lose this one like my Z9i.
This site has them on pre-order for $100 but I don't know trustworthy and/or reliable they are.

go to the Bluant site, and order it direct from them; use this coupon code to get it for 99 dollars:
colony
code is good until August 31st..

Yep I got the same code emailed to me I plan on orderimg one soon

Technology changes every second, so before you say yours is the best, Sound ID has a new model coming out with an app where you can adjust the incoming sounds levels, not just volume. They are suppose to be coming out with an android also!! but this will give you an idea of what it can do.
http://www.soundid.com/home_vid.html

whats the difference between a $100 BT headset and a $20 one?

davebu said:
whats the difference between a $100 BT headset and a $20 one?
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Umm..The app I guess..?

sjjones said:
Technology changes every second, so before you say yours is the best, Sound ID has a new model coming out with an app where you can adjust the incoming sounds levels, not just volume. They are suppose to be coming out with an android also!! but this will give you an idea of what it can do.
http://www.soundid.com/home_vid.html
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Well, was looking at sound id, but...
-NO A2DP without a firmware update, and no MAC software to update the firmware; only 32 bit windows
-NO Android app like the Iphone app that makes it a cool headset
Pay 130+ for a headset with no A2DP now a days? Not a chance
its a nice headset for Iphone users, but a waste of $$ for Androiders

davebu said:
whats the difference between a $100 BT headset and a $20 one?
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Features, sound quality,etc
What's the difference between a Star Tac and an Evo??

davebu said:
whats the difference between a $100 BT headset and a $20 one?
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Looks like a difference of about $80

sjjones said:
Technology changes every second, so before you say yours is the best, Sound ID has a new model coming out with an app where you can adjust the incoming sounds levels, not just volume. They are suppose to be coming out with an android also!! but this will give you an idea of what it can do.
http://www.soundid.com/home_vid.html
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The Sound ID hs looks pretty good. The feature I like the most, which I have wanted for a long time with other sets, is the tracking feature (only [q] is how far it extends though). I've already lost one $80 headset and my $20 replacement was stolen by a former co-worker. I also like that is touch sensitive. The only deal breaker is the lack of an Android app which will hopefully be out by the time I'm ready for purchase (next month or two). The iPhone app looks damn cool! Oh and firmware shmirmware - If you can flash an EVO you can flash this too.

The new Blueant Q2 will call out the names of incoming callers...a feature I've been waiting for...
I'll probably get it...

As long as their names are in your phone's phone book...

correct...which is all I need...

mario23 said:
The new Blueant Q2 will call out the names of incoming callers...a feature I've been waiting for...
I'll probably get it...
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My T1 does that also. I think its a feature of most of the new BlueAnt headset.

true, they both do that..
The major differences between the T1 snd the Q2 are
-Bing 411 on the Q2 is very cool
-Clearer sound on the Q2
- NO BREAKUP on the Q2 when listening to music and walking around
Both are very nice headsets, with similar features, but the Q2 is definitely an upgrade from the T1; is also smaller than the T1

wase4711 said:
true, they both do that..
The major differences between the T1 snd the Q2 are
-Bing 411 on the Q2 is very cool
-Clearer sound on the Q2
- NO BREAKUP on the Q2 when listening to music and walking around
Both are very nice headsets, with similar features, but the Q2 is definitely an upgrade from the T1; is also smaller than the T1
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Smaller than the T1 Coming from a Plantronics Explorer, the T1 looks and feels like I have a pebble hanging onto my ear.
I would jump on the Q2, but I think I will wait until Christmas time. Hopefully people would have had some time with it and the price has gone down

yeah, even with the coupon code from blueant, its still 99 dollars...
you know, you could sell your T1 on Ebay for around 40 bucks, which would help lower the cost of the Q2..

wase4711 said:
yeah, even with the coupon code from blueant, its still 99 dollars...
you know, you could sell your T1 on Ebay for around 40 bucks, which would help lower the cost of the Q2..
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Eh its a good idea, but I think I will pass. Never sold anything on eBay before and really do not have the time to hassle with it now. I think I will just wait it out and see how everyone likes the Q2.
Who knows...maybe by the time Christmas comes around BlueAnt will be releasing the T2

I snagged the Jabra EXTREME for $49.99 at Staples... I love it so far... A2DP is awesome

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BlueAnt releases the Q2

http://www.myblueant.com/q2/media.php
http://www.myblueant.com/q2/technology.php
Since the Q1 is now "updated", I wonder how this would compare to the t1 bluetooth headset that they sell?
Guess I made a good choice ordering the t1 today. No one seems to be saying, "Wait! The t1 sucks"
the T1 is a great headset i love it but the only problem i have with it is the ear hook the rubber ear holder is not always spot on in the ear. I may look around and see what the price is on this one or see what the latest update does for the Q1.
love the T1; great prices, great sound, and I dumped my Jawbone Icon for it..
hope that with Froyo, you will be able to use all the voice commands on the EVO..
Thanks guys for the input.
Kratos - I remember the thread you started about ordering the t1 from the cellguru. Went ahead, bit the bullet and ordered from them.
On that note, was the product authentic? I mean...was it new condition like you would buy from say...bestbuy or radioshack?
got mine from cell guru; brand new, retail pack..
only down side is NO RETURNS ON BT HEADSETS through them..
Well I read the 300+ reviews and they showed that the products shipped out were authentic and good quality. Only a few people had problems, but cellguru made things right.
Freaking excited because I ordered it with FedEx 2 day shipping. Gotta give my Plantronics Explorer a proper burial
could have saved the money, cause they ship out really fast..I think they are in the Boston area..
redrazr7791 said:
Thanks guys for the input.
Kratos - I remember the thread you started about ordering the t1 from the cellguru. Went ahead, bit the bullet and ordered from them.
On that note, was the product authentic? I mean...was it new condition like you would buy from say...bestbuy or radioshack?
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yes it was in brand new condition (i had alot of problems opening it in the video lol)
wase4711 said:
love the T1; great prices, great sound, and I dumped my Jawbone Icon for it..
hope that with Froyo, you will be able to use all the voice commands on the EVO..
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It works great with the Froyo Roms that are out now from AvaFroyo to CM6 i've tried both and all i can say is WOW i love Froyo lol but sadly the battery drain on both is to high right now on both Roms so i'm back to DC3.2.3 for now waiting on Bt fix on damage new Rom Gotta have my BT can't drive now without it ITS THE LAW...
redrazr7791 said:
Well I read the 300+ reviews and they showed that the products shipped out were authentic and good quality. Only a few people had problems, but cellguru made things right.
Freaking excited because I ordered it with FedEx 2 day shipping. Gotta give my Plantronics Explorer a proper burial
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you will love it the Headset calls off the name of the people that call you and the FREE APP in the market reads off your text messages and if you Get Vlingo you have more functions that will make you Drool Lol....
kratos313 said:
It works great with the Froyo Roms that are out now from AvaFroyo to CM6 i've tried both and all i can say is WOW i love Froyo lol but sadly the battery drain on both is to high right now on both Roms so i'm back to DC3.2.3 for now waiting on Bt fix on damage new Rom Gotta have my BT can't drive now without it ITS THE LAW...
you will love it the Headset calls off the name of the people that call you and the FREE APP in the market reads off your text messages and if you Get Vlingo you have more functions that will make you Drool Lol....
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Well, Froyo is coming to the EVO in the next day or 2, so, I am kinda glad I held off on rooting..cant wait to actually use the headset the way it was meant to be used!!
wase4711 said:
could have saved the money, cause they ship out really fast..I think they are in the Boston area..
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I'm in Texas buddy it would take a while to get here. Plus I'm in school so I really needed it ASAP.
As far as FroYo goes, I'm really excited to get the Bluetooth functionality like the push-to-call feature that is missing from 2.1 OS. Hate the fact that I have to connect the Bluetooth and physically touch the screen to dial the person.

SOUND QUALITY (when compared with devices equipped with the Wolfson DAC )

I am probably going for the Note, but I will be testing the sound of the GNexus, the minute it hits the showrooms here in Holland.....and if its sound is as good as or even better than my sgs's (wolfson dac) ....that could change my mind....
Anyway, for those who already own a Galaxy nexus AND have experience with phones equipped with the Wolfson DAC, like the sgs, i-phone and more, how is the GNexus's sound in comparison?
Thanks
Probably going to have to wait for the audiophile or music freaks to get a satisfactory answer to that. A lot of us are still waiting for that answer.
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Is this thing already being sold or not?
Here in Holland , if I order now, it will take 4 weeks
I pre-ordered mine @ expansys.nl and they deliver on December 3rd. Supercurio inspected the sound hardware already and it looks quite ok. its up to google how they impanted it into the OS, But im not worried cuz im sure things get tweaked and optimised overtime.
SquirtingCherry said:
I pre-ordered mine @ expansys.nl and they deliver on December 3rd.
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If you read better, it says expected December 3rd. That's slightly different.
Mine is expected at the end of November. Bottom line is that they simply don't know when The Phone will be delivered.
SquirtingCherry said:
I pre-ordered mine @ expansys.nl and they deliver on December 3rd. Supercurio inspected the sound hardware already and it looks quite ok. its up to google how they impanted it into the OS, But im not worried cuz im sure things get tweaked and optimised overtime.
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I tried to find the Supercurio info that you mentioned regarding the sound hardware for Galaxy Nexus but searching Google I did not find anything. Do you have a link?
BTW. I just looked at the expansys UK site and they have the 32GB model (for others looking for this version of the phone), but no price listed yet:
www expansys com/google-galaxy-nexus-32gb-black-224348/
Sorry, I don't have enough posts to make a proper link.
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I already knew Supercurio thoughts....
I was hoping that there enough users out there with that thing in hands, already testing...
I guess the selling still have to warm up
I buy my decices always on belsimpel.nl . they have good prices, good service and an office here in Groningen, where I can pick it up...
GNexus 560 Euros...
Tje price of the Note went down to 546 euros
what about the speaker quality? is samsung known to use decent speakers on their phones? i know htc speaker quality is pretty ****ty.. cracks occasionally and not really crisp
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spovat said:
what about the speaker quality? is samsung known to use decent speakers on their phones? i know htc speaker quality is pretty ****ty.. cracks occasionally and not really crisp
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
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Yeah the speaker on my HTC Incredible blew out during the first week of owning it.

Who got beats headphones with their uk HOX?

Hi guys, I didn't get my one x from phones4u, just spoke to them apparently they put it through on the wrong deal and they have messed it up im not a happy bunny over it.
Im thinking of telling them I will go elsewhere but that then leads to the topic question, some people have been getting proper beats headphones with their orders. Can I ask those that got them and not just the cheap htc headsets what network/deal/store they went with?
I got mine from Vodafone. Ordered on the phone but they messed up the order, delivering today to a store that's actually CLOSED today. Luckily they helped me out in-store yesterday so I already have my nice, shiny new One X... with urBeats headphones (entry-level Beats 'phones, but still worth about £100). This is on a £41/month contract (free handset), but the free headphones offer applies across the board, so long as you're one of the first 10,000 customers. Go into a Vodafone store today and you'll probably be lucky, but hurry as I get the impression that this is gonna be one hell of a successful launch for HTC, especially given the buzz created by their 4-page cover ad in yesterday's Metro newspaper.
hello mate. i done a pre-order through 3 and did not get the beats headphones. what i have done now though, due to them not activating my account yet, gave them a lot of bs and told them i am not happy so i want the earphones as a compensation for all the hassle they are putting me through.
so the guy said once my account gets activated they will be sending them out to me. but i read some guys through vodafone got good deals and get the earphones with it..might be worth having a look there
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Hi guys, I didn't get my one x from phones4u, just spoke to them apparently they put it through on the wrong deal and they have messed it up im not a happy bunny over it.
Im thinking of telling them I will go elsewhere but that then leads to the topic question, some people have been getting proper beats headphones with their orders. Can I ask those that got them and not just the cheap htc headsets what network/deal/store they went with?
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You should definitely get compensation. I didnt get the headphones from Three, but they did give me £50 credit after I complained - ideal situation really as the Urbeats headphones are pretty mediocre
They said someone will be calling me back in the next 30 mins, to discuss the problem and put the order on the correct deal. I will see what they say.
I was hoping it would be another network other than voda that gave them three would be my ideal choice but oh well, its not a must have but im sure as hell not going out to buy a beats headphones myself but would have liked to have one to see how they are on the phone with the beats feature turned on. Oh well will stick to my sennheiser's if I cant get them as a freebie
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Oh well will stick to my sennheiser's if I cant get them as a freebie
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Probably sound just as good anyway.. this beats gimmick is ridiculous lol. Plattans sound just as good, look better and are 1/3 the price. Either way, free upbeats/Compensation is still better than nothing, good luck mate!
hmm they haven't called me yet either going to call them up on my lunch and see what they have to say for themselves. I will push for compensation but who knows atm
Are Vodafone giving earphones or headphones? I think the lowest earphones are the iBeats ones which retail for 79.99 and also come in matching white/red to the white HOX and red Beats logo.
voda's site says urBeats headphones for all one x and one s orders, but its limited to the first 10,000 orders.
If you have choice, always take money compensation. Beats is overmarketed mediocre stuff, it's well overpriced too. On the phone side, there is nothing but a software bass boost (worse than in any decent audio player). Phones - you will get better sound from other brands and for less money!
But like someone said, it's better than nothing, UNLESS it's calculated into the price, then it's not worth it. To me Beats is worth the same as the iPhone-bundled 1Euro-worth white headphones people use because they think it came from Apple so it has to be great.
Beats is marketing its brand and I see more and more people with those headphones
oh well spoke to them they have cancelled my upgrade order they cant do it, they were upgrading me on tmobile but their back office team is saying they wont do tmobile anymore. I then said id take it on three she said we dont do them either so guess im shopping elsewhere, three have a good cashback deal via quidco will probably use them.
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You should definitely get compensation. I didnt get the headphones from Three, but they did give me £50 credit after I complained - ideal situation really as the Urbeats headphones are pretty mediocre
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Thanks for this info as i'm going to give them a call today to complain about not getting the headsets also as I was promised it over the phone, and the ones that come in the box kills my ears after 5 minutes
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gaiden0000 said:
Thanks for this info as i'm going to give them a call today to complain about not getting the headsets also as I was promised it over the phone, and the ones that come in the box kills my ears after 5 minutes
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Make sure you quote this url: http://blog.three.co.uk/2012/02/26/htc-one-x-is-coming-to-three/
And the comments made by one if Three's moderators, Kaz
Moderator: Kaz
on March 28, 2012
@ste_b – I can confirm that the HTC One X will include Beats in-ear headphones.
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How does this deal that I am tempted to take sound Drefsab?
http://www.buymobilephones.net/mobile-phones/HTC/HTC-One-X/3/38-Ultimate-500-(24mths)/13552727
Holding off for now just because cancellation fee from Vodafone is still through the roof and waiting to hear about the SIII. This deal however, is sweet imo
NoobTerminator said:
hello mate. i done a pre-order through 3 and did not get the beats headphones. what i have done now though, due to them not activating my account yet, gave them a lot of bs and told them i am not happy so i want the earphones as a compensation for all the hassle they are putting me through.
so the guy said once my account gets activated they will be sending them out to me. but i read some guys through vodafone got good deals and get the earphones with it..might be worth having a look there
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Well, I just called 3 about this, and have been told that I'll be getting a pair of headphones in the post. Although they said they will be taking it up with the manager of the guy who placed my order, which makes me sad for him, but he did promise the headset.
The buggers at 3 sent me another regular HTC headset, and then have the nerve to tell me that I should just go and buy some Beats head sets as they don't have any instock. Then I'll need to send them proof of purchase and they will adjust my account for me.
So I should be out of pocket by about £50 - £70 because they lied to us about what we got. Should have just gone with Carphone Warehouse or P4U and gotten a media link or xbox and sell it.

Bluetooth for everyday use

Hey guys,
Looking to get a new bluetooth and I have been at Best Buy and Walmart lately trying out a couple with no luck. Anyone have any recommendations for a good bluetooth. Im basically need it to work when driving and walking outside (the last couple I tried people couldnt really hear me or vice versa). I dont often listen to my music on my phone but in the rare times I do, it would be nice if it would play via my headset. I know the saying you get what you pay for, but since I dont use it often Im not looking to spend a lot on one (a $100 is really pushing it).
Any ideas or recommendations?
Thanks
I usually use jawbones they work really well I havent had any issues
I have both the Jawbone Icon and Era, they are both nice the Era is better noise cancelling but yeah if you don't want to spend too much the Jawbone Icon is pretty reasonably priced
http://www.amazon.com/Aliph-Jawbone...8&qid=1343411813&sr=8-2&keywords=jawbone+icon
http://www.amazon.com/Jawbone-Wirel...8&qid=1343411839&sr=1-11&keywords=jawbone+era
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I usually use jawbones they work really well I havent had any issues
I have both the Jawbone Icon and Era, they are both nice the Era is better noise cancelling but yeah if you don't want to spend too much the Jawbone Icon is pretty reasonably priced
http://www.amazon.com/Aliph-Jawbone...8&qid=1343411813&sr=8-2&keywords=jawbone+icon
http://www.amazon.com/Jawbone-Wirel...8&qid=1343411839&sr=1-11&keywords=jawbone+era
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Thanks ill check them out.
I have the Motorola Elite Flip. I love it. $50 on amazon. I use it every day to listen to music on my way into work. Talking and listening is a breeze.
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What are the earbuds that with the G5 in your country this crap too?

I'm pretty okay with all the rest of this phone, however the earbuds have really disappointed me, so much less than I expected from Motorola, they use to bundle better earbuds with their phones back in the days it was owned by Google (and prior to that).
Now they're shipping the Moto G5 with a pair of plasticky chinese rubbish, of which the only positive point is that it fits correctly into my ears, however all the rest sucks, the sound quality sucks, the build and the design sucks completely, the cord sucks... everything...
I don't know if it's only the Brazilian version, but I can buy a better pair of easbuds for about $5 in any store... I'm pretty sure of that, take a look at it, the most shameless and crappy - and the most chinese too, I suspect - buds I ever had...
Any phone Iv even bought the headphones are not very good quality - remember you are buying a phone not some headphones - if they provide high quality headphones the price of the phone will go up. I don't know about you but I would rather have the money I'm spending invested in the phone & not gimmicks that come with it.
Since this phone has a headphone jack you can buy your own quality headphones to use across all your current and future devices
Mine didn't even come with headphones and I paid like USD 320 for it, so feel lucky about it.
Most of the budget moto phones comes with the crappy headphone you received. I received the same with Moto E4 Plus.
LOL
I really do not know why you people are complaining about. You bought a Phone the headsets are a bonus and this happens with a lot of phones. Ex: The cameras from every phones are a joke when compared with professional cameras.
TheFixItMan said:
Any phone Iv even bought the headphones are not very good quality - remember you are buying a phone not some headphones - if they provide high quality headphones the price of the phone will go up. I don't know about you but I would rather have the money I'm spending invested in the phone & not gimmicks that come with it.
Since this phone has a headphone jack you can buy your own quality headphones to use across all your current and future devices
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What you said is pretty obvious, I already knew that a priori, that is, even if you didn't ever say anything, I would already know it.
It surprises me that nowadays in the internet forums it's like this: you write a post or a rant and someone comes with sideline comments that don't aim at the addressed issue's core. In other words, they answer your question, except for they didn't answer your question. Your comment seems totally irrelevant to the question I asked, seems more like it's attempt on bashing on me?
But maybe you misunderstood my purpose, so let me further clarify the purpose of my question, lest one misunderstands me once again.
I wrote this just because in the past I had other Motorola phones that came with at least regular or good phones, and now they're shipping with this crappy one. It goes all back to the P2K and the EZX eras. I had the Rokr E1, Rokr W5, Rokr E2, Rokr Z6, then the classy Razr V8. Now, this is the first time I buy a brand new Motorola phone in Android times, and having admired the brand for so much time, and having PAID MONEY for it, have you the right to say, be it in the internet, that I'm surprised (not angry or mad about that though :good of how crappy it is that they have included so cheap an accessory with their latest phone, an accessory so cheap that it probably didn't cost them a dollar, one that would have been better not to be included in the pack, IMO.
So point one is: this post is a rant and maybe an opportunity for discussion on the topic, which, as far as I know, are legal modalities in this community.
Point two is just the core of my question, the source of my quenches and doubts, which by the way moved my human nature with the deep necessity to ask other people if they are experiencing the same thing and if they have the same opinion, which by the way is completely legal in this community as well.
So point #2: I wished to know if it was only in Brazil that Motorola were shipping these earbuds, in other words if it was standard practice or not.
Now, as you see, when people ask things they have underlying reasons to do so, even if it - to your very eyes - looks absolutely like they don't.
So take no offense, just as I intend not to take any from you, or from anyone else in the internet. I encourage you to take my sarcasm as cold reasoning, of which the intention is to be a corrective measure, in search of one thing that we have a need for nowadays, that is, politeness in the internet...
XJeFX said:
Mine didn't even come with headphones and I paid like USD 320 for it, so feel lucky about it.
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Woah, that I wanted to know.
Where do you live?
(And indeed you paid a bit more than I did on mine, even if not much)
Pragnan Saha said:
Most of the budget moto phones comes with the crappy headphone you received. I received the same with Moto E4 Plus.
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Yeah, it feels it is standard practice.
I was going to buy the Lenovo K6, don't know how the healthy and active is the developer's community for that device though.
Dam0y said:
I really do not know why you people are complaining about. You bought a Phone the headsets are a bonus and this happens with a lot of phones. Ex: The cameras from every phones are a joke when compared with professional cameras.
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You're answering my question with the same sort of answer the first friend above has done it. Read my answer to his comment then you will understand why I have asked this question.
Goodbye and have a nice day.
Thank you for answering my question
freeZbies said:
So point one is: this post is a rant and maybe an opportunity for discussion on the topic, which, as far as I know, are legal modalities in this community.
Point two is just the core of my question, the source of my quenches and doubts, which by the way moved my human nature with the deep necessity to ask other people if they are experiencing the same thing and if they have the same opinion, which by the way is completely legal in this community as well.
So point #2: I wished to know if it was only in Brazil that Motorola were shipping these earbuds, in other words if it was standard practice or not.
Now, as you see, when people ask things they have underlying reasons to do so, even if it - to your very eyes - looks absolutely like they don't.
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Yes these discussions are perfectly fine however discussions really belong in the general section but I understand why you may have posted in the question and answer section
Yes these earphones are shipped with UK models too
In actual fact they are probably better than Samsung headphones which shipped with their galaxy phones as they are an even worse & more uncomfortable plastic
Goes back to my point of companies really just include these for testing purposes - to say here's some headphones so you can check all the phones hardware & functionality works. Because what they don't want is someone saying my headphone jack is faulty & they go well did you test it when you purchased it & the customer goes no I didn't have any headphones. Imagine if this complaint happened months after they bought it. In UK law technically its the retailer that should sort it but its a grey area & alot of hassle - after a year & the warranty is gone you have no chance without paying.
I know all that is a bit extreme but really it's the manufacturer saying well we gave you all the tools to test the product to make sure it works so we can provide a high level of customer service.
They may have been better quality in the past however with rising costs & the manufacturers wanting to keep prices low they look at how they can cut costs & remain competitive whilst keeping a quality product. At the end of the day as I said before you are buying a phone so anything else they can cut back on they will.

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