Got to feel sorry for all those Vodafone users - Desire General

So looking in the news, Vodafone are saying that the 2.2 update WITHOUT all the branding and bloatware will be out in the next week or so.
Certainly looks like a U turn but also looks like they are bringing out 2.2 sooner than planned to keep people happy after various Facebook campaigns etc.
So we will now have the HTC 2.2. build that (looking at the problems with it) was rushed out too soon under pressure from owners and the media before it was ready and now Vodafone are going to rush out their build which is built on top of the rushed out HTC build.
Am I the only one seeing what is coming here?

well, it persuaded me to root my phone, and i've been much happier since!
thank you leedroid!

HTC 2.2 build is OK, not had any issues myself (other than Market being a bit slow) - only got it yesterday OTA after unrooting my phone to see if it was better than the custom ROMs (and tbh, for what I use it for, it is)

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UK User Desire or N1?

Hello guys,
I've put my HD2 up for sale and i'm looking for a Android phone.
I've obviously got the Desire and N1 in mind however choosing between the two i'm just so unsure.
The Desire has the SenseUI which I love on my HD2, and by my understanding the Widgets are pretty good compared to the N1, but the Android updates will be slower because of SenseUI needing to be integrated on each release.
But I have to admit i'm one of those people who needs a device running on the latest software being all it can be, so with the fact the N1 is already on Froyo 2.2 i'm then pulled towards this phone, as I'm doubtful the Desire will receive the same support over time.
Also if I Root the N1 I presume some people are putting Sense UI on the N1's and I could do the same>?
Likewise could I do the same thing on the Desire, i.e. Vanilla Froyo 2.2 without SenseUI on the Desire? or are they different internally?
My other headache is I would need to buy the N1 from the states, and am concerned of it not working properly in the UK.
with pinch to zoom on the N1 now, the only difference is the slightley different pshyical layout, and SenseUI, with N1 getting the updates first.
If i've said anything incorrect please let me know, correct me, more information is always good
And if you were buying one now which would you buy?
Thanks, Luke.
Why do you NEED the latest software on the device? Bragging rights?
I went from an HD2 to a Desire and it's the best decision I ever made! Sense is better than on the HD2 - working out of the box - and bar A2SD (which I've added on a custom ROM) there's nothing you need 2.2 for...I'd get the Desire and wait for 2.2 to be released - N1 hardware is a bit pap and trackballs have a habbit of going wrong
This is my own view though
I had the same decision but went for the desire purely for money reasons. I thought that the desire would outset the n1 and get a better modding community but it seems I was wrong. There are lots of devs for the n1 that are pretty active and it is very apparent since the release of froyo. But I still prefer the real buttons on the desire but the optical trackball is probably not as easy to use as the n1. Plus from the deg forum I dont think that the desire has been fully rooted yet in respect to loading custom spl (but I may be wrong about that)....if I could go back I would have got the n1
the reason i look to the N1
is because like soulja i feel the Desire is receiving updates later than the N1. Froyo is a clear example. the N1 has it already. but the Desire is going to get it with no date set. my concern is the supporr HTC will offer in future, because of SenseUI. im concerned that the modding, updates will not be as good or regular.
the reason the HD2 is going is because the app market is naff, and app support is failing as everyone is waiting for WM7.
I need a phone i can fiddle with.
Why do you NEED to fiddle with it? What's wrong with it as it is? The N1 got the update first because it is a Google phone outright, all other handsets are 3rd party so of course there'll be a delay in updates - albeit, hopefully, not a long one
The Desire is better than the N1 in every way bar the updates to Android - and I , personally, can wait for FroYo
Sounds like you already set on the n1 but decide to enter a room full of Desire users to dissuade you for some reason.
Do you have to buy from US?
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Why do you NEED to fiddle with it? What's wrong with it as it is? The N1 got the update first because it is a Google phone outright, all other handsets are 3rd party so of course there'll be a delay in updates - albeit, hopefully, not a long one
The Desire is better than the N1 in every way bar the updates to Android - and I , personally, can wait for FroYo
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Soe people just need to fiddle, leave them to it! Why make loads of custom roms, and change them on a daily basis and flash all the time! People love doing this, and if the N1 has quicker updates, etc let em have it. I personally would love to have time to fiddle with a phone 24/7, but I get an hour a month, and love my desire out the box and Sense is great! If you don't like fiddling too much then great, but if someone loves fiddling then that's great too! Don't question WHY people want summit they just do! I personally would choose the desire as it's great out the box, and better hardware, and OK I may have to wait a little bit for 2.2/2.3, etc, etc in the future, but so what, it doesn't bother me (it may bother others and so be it!)
I love to fiddle, I cooked ROMs for my HD2 as the stock ROMs were poor to say the least. I'm just wondering why this person needs to fiddle. The phone, out the box, is nigh on perfect so there's not a lot to do. FroYo will be out eventually so probably best to wait for it...
It's purely curiosity
Problem i've faced.
IS that like most things we have an idea of how something should work. Anyone who's used a HD2 is probably well aware of how much better it is with C00kies hometab mod. I can't actually use mine Stock lol.
I've had my HD2 2 a while and have only just released 1.72, where as Unlocked people are rockin' on 2.10 While I no this is more todo with the network than the phone, I'd just like to be using the newer more update features as and when they arrive. I also like applying mods to user interface, and sometime functionality.
I'm doubtful of HTC's commitment to keep the Desire up to date. Sure you might see 2.2 but will you get 3.0? will HTC then have replaced the Desire with a new flagship model and say that the Desire is no longer on the update program?
Oddly my problem is with HTC and there Sense UI, don't get me wrong my HD2 without it is crap, but it slows down the updates significantly with regards to the Android system, and this concerns me.
@panos: the Nexus one isn't available in the UK simfree, so i have to buy from the US. However the Desire I an obtain from a UK retailer.
The Desire is £400
The Nexus1 is £437 phone,shipping,vat,import.
If Google release a new phone then the N1 will also be left out of the loop so that's not really a valid argument. You can get the N1 on Vodafone so you could always get a contract with them (assuming you're due an upgrade).
Your experience of WinMo is the same as mine - I was constantly cooking ROMs and Co0kie's HT was a must for me - but on the Desire I've not needed anything bar trying the new radios. You can't compare the 2 as they're worlds apart!!
I prefer the buttons on the Desire to the touchscreen ones on the N1 - and don't get my started on the stupid ball on the N1!!
End of the day, if you're someone who can't leave something alone then get the N1 but IMO the Desire is a superior device and Sense makes it even better. Plain Android is piss poor and just looks boring...
well in a few month when desire is released in north America It's going to gain a lot more attention.
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souljas said:
I had the same decision but went for the desire purely for money reasons. I thought that the desire would outset the n1 and get a better modding community but it seems I was wrong. There are lots of devs for the n1 that are pretty active and it is very apparent since the release of froyo. But I still prefer the real buttons on the desire but the optical trackball is probably not as easy to use as the n1. Plus from the deg forum I dont think that the desire has been fully rooted yet in respect to loading custom spl (but I may be wrong about that)....if I could go back I would have got the n1
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+1 totally agree with you
quite interesting,
some people are saying I'd get a N1 if i could in hindsight. However after looking at the Sense UI i'm having trouble seeing the N1 as a good looking OS
diablous said:
quite interesting,
some people are saying I'd get a N1 if i could in hindsight. However after looking at the Sense UI i'm having trouble seeing the N1 as a good looking OS
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If you really like sense ui then i guess the desire is better for you...but personally, after having the G1, i would go for a phone with a better dev community. I miss my g1 and custom roms,,,,it was very fun and i miss those days...
plus as some have said HTC normally are not very quick with updates like the hero
^^^but yeah i hope when usa gets it the deving will improve
Do hope I am not to late to input on this.
Well through a small loop hole in Vodafones mobile network, I managed to get both the Desire and the Nexus 1.
Initially I had an early upgrade from the sony satio (what an awful phone) to the HTC desire, and loved it. Was absolutely fantastic, loved all of it and couldnt think of trading it away.
However, it stopped working all of a sudden. Around 2 hours later on the phone to vodafone, I was sent a Nexus one the next day. To my dismay, my desire started to work again. Happy days. Anyway, after having both phones for around 2 weeks I've decided that I am to sell the desire, even though the nexus would get me more coin. Yeah, it doesnt look as pretty as sense, but after a while you dont miss it. As for rooting and having latest updates, its the way to go.
IMO get the N1, vodafone do a pretty good deal. Best advise is to make the contract over the phone, they will give you near anything if your convincing
I would have got the N1 if I could go back. As for Sense being good looking I have to disagree. HTC have removed the app transitions (the fade in and out) and replaced the 3d app drawer with a plain black app drawer that lags. Also they have managed to make the default music player worse than stock.
The only thing I like about sense is the widgets, but beautiful widgets is an adequate replacement.
Also the N1 is very easy to root and near impossible to brick, whereas HTC have gone out of their way to spoil the fun and prevent us getting a full root (so far)
I am considering selling my Desire and getting the N1
I got a Desire because the N1 was not available on contract if it was I would of probably gone for the N1.
I spent 18 months on a G1 and loved all the support it got from the modding community much the same as the N1 has now, but I also at the time was in awe of the ui on the Hero which turned out to be a better build than the G1 in my opinion, and I questioned my self on if I made the right choice to get the G1 or not or should of waited a bit longer for the Hero to be released.
Since the Hero came out later, it was behind on the modding scene then picked up pace a lot later on, much the same as I imagine the Desire scene will explode sooner or later especially if we get full root on the device, people also say HTC are slow at updates which is true, but I got an update as soon as took it out of the box, but I think due to the N1 not been available on contract though various carriers in the UK until now and as far as I am aware only Vodafone, HTC has has sold a hell of a lot more Desires though various carriers on contract, that i think Vodafone will ever sell of the N1 thus they might realise that 2.2 should be shipped out to the Desire sooner rather than later to keep its users happy.
My friend has a N1 and my personal opinion the Desire looks a hell of a lot better outside and inside.

Official Froyo for HTC Desire possibly in the beginning of August

Hi @ all
I know it wont be a 100% reliable news but I thought it would interest some of you.
A friend of mine ordered a HTC Desire at Sunrise (Swiss Operator). She was told that the delivery will be postponed to the beginning of August due to the fact that the device will be delivered with version 2.2 of Android aka Froyo.
That would mean that we could possibly get the official Froyo by the end of July for unbranded devices.
Hope the staff at Sunrise is reliable and the info is right!!!
We will know more in about one month.
Sorry if the news has already been posted before.
Sinerely,
Ascenca
Interesting
Well, HTC Customer Service reps got the date wrong for this. So I doubt that a network service provider rep has that much information.
I have a feeling your friend couldn't get a Desire because of the same problem that the Droid Incredible is facing. HTC has a shortage of AMOLED screens.
See here. http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/veri...le-shortage-due-to-amoled-production-shortage
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas
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Well, HTC Customer Service reps got the date wrong for this. So I doubt that a network service provider rep has that much information.
I have a feeling your friend couldn't get a Desire because of the same problem that the Droid Incredible is facing. HTC has a shortage of AMOLED screens.
See here. http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/veri...le-shortage-due-to-amoled-production-shortage
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas
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Thanks für your reply.
I am aware of the shortage of AMOLED displays and the recent PR statement of HTC. I dont pretend my info is right, only wanted to share what I heard. Nevertheless I think August could be possible. The PR guy said that all newer devices (Desire, Legend, etc.) will get Froyo by Christmas. The HTC Desire being their top end device at the moment in Europe I assume it will get the update first. And I am quite sure that they wont provide the update to all devices at the same time. So lets hope for it to be true .
Ascenca
ohyeahar said:
Also, see here for a (probably) more realistic time table direct from HTC PR guy. http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-says-expect-froyo-version-sense-ui-christmas
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There's no timetable there at all - it just says that they'll be finished with Froyo updates before Xmas. Well, August is before Xmas, as is September, October, November and most of December!
What we do know is that HTC have gone on record to say that they are expecting the first updates to roll out in Q3, but we don't know which devices will get it first.
Regards,
Dave
http://phandroid.com/2010/07/06/htc-to-complete-android-2-2-roll-out-by-christmas/
Lets hope it's true and the Desire gets 2.2 in August before the other phones, but i must admit that 2.1 is great and i have no issues with it so am happy to wait whenever it comes out.
It takes time to port all of our applications over to Froyo and then make sure that it is running well on each of our devices. That’s not like a one week kind of project. We need to make sure that our applications are taking advantage of the Froyo features. To make sure that they’re all running properly on the OS now that it’s a new version. And then to make sure that it’s running on our hardware as well as we expect. I would believe that we would be done with our Froyo updates before Christmas.
This was an intervjue with Eric Lin HTC PR dude
Source http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/34139/htc-froyo-update-delays-explained
That's no good. I'm going on holidays at the beginning of August lol
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
It seems alot of the replies in this thread don't take into account the fact that a HTC 2.2 test rom with sense has already been leaked to certain people and was mostly working. So HTC are pretty far along in development already.
Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?
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Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?
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I think this is cos they want to prevent what happened with the 2.1 Update for the HTC Hero (more than a half year between announcement and shipment, at least in europe).
Better to make promises they can hold. So the Christmas announcement makes completly sense to me.
Ascenca
Ascenca83 said:
I think this is cos they want to prevent what happened with the 2.1 Update for the HTC Hero (more than a half year between announcement and shipment, at least in europe).
Better to make promises they can hold. So the Christmas announcement makes completly sense to me.
Ascenca
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Yes thats probably the reason. But it might make people not buying the Desire also and go for another brand like Samsung Galaxy S or even the Iphone 4 =P
Oh well, Im glad we have the Devs who get froyo roms out =)
Roms that dont work
Not trying to offend anyone.. I m pretty new to the HTC Desire (3 days) but VERY happy I forgot I ever had a 3GS.
But as far as roms are concerned, I see it is not worth using them since simple stuff such as video recording do not work.
Man, hope this better be true.
Sorry to sound so retardly geeky but it's been such a deep sadness for not being able to use the sdcard for applications. I'm sure you dudes feel the same!
Sent from my HTC Desire
jastonas said:
Roms that dont work
Not trying to offend anyone.. I m pretty new to the HTC Desire (3 days) but VERY happy I forgot I ever had a 3GS.
But as far as roms are concerned, I see it is not worth using them since simple stuff such as video recording do not work.
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About video recording not working: http://androidheadlines.com/2010/07/android-2-2-is-now-on-the-htc-desire-it-too-can-now-do-720p.html
Looks pretty functional to me
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Yes i know about that rom. Thats why i think its strange that HTC PR guy talks about crhistmas?
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The only thing they have said is that they will be done BEFORE Christmas, that could be any time not precisely Christmas, it just gives them a window to allow for things to go wrong.
Another hint the update is not far of (statement from Eric Lin, global PR and online community Manager of HTC):
"I don't think you're going to see that really long six month, seven month lag, like you saw in the updates from 1.5 to 2.1, simply because it's a less severe change. Switching from 2.1 to 2.2, they made a lot of tweaks, but they didn't make any gigantic changes, so it should be a much swifter process".
Source: the::unwierd
Ascenca

Im Moving

IN !!!!!!!!!!!!
my htc touch pro 2 will be going tomorrow when my htc desire arrives.
im guessing it will be all vodafone branded and im wondering if anyone can point me towards an official android 2.2 update if it hasnt already got it?
also what tips & tricks would you reccomend for a first time android user?
thanks
SMF_12 said:
IN !!!!!!!!!!!!
my htc touch pro 2 will be going tomorrow when my htc desire arrives.
im guessing it will be all vodafone branded and im wondering if anyone can point me towards an official android 2.2 update if it hasnt already got it?
also what tips & tricks would you reccomend for a first time android user?
thanks
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hello, your Desire will not be branded.. thanks to the people (and me) who had complained about the 1.24.161.3 uptade (vodafone branded, very buggy & slow!)
enjoy the phone, dont root or do anything with it as it is your first android phone so it would be very likely to brick the phone if you do not read & or know enough
I am pretty sure you will have 2.2, however 2.1 is not that bad so no poit messing around with the phone to get 720p etc.. for me- it made no differace, just wanted the horrible branding off!
nice to see someone live close to me.. never saw anyone clocer than london..
hope this helps & enjoy the phone
I'm a Walton on Thames boy from birth, just moved up North with the missus...
everything you could ever need right here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
welcome, to the dark side !!
thank you all... that would be sweet if its not branded like my tp2 was....
im inbetween slutton & croydon and work in east london atm.
ive heard alot of good things about android, only every really had a lil play with 1 or 2 android phones in the shops, couldnt test the internet ect...
but i wasnt keen on flashing my phones, must be why i got so annoyed with the tp2.
i will check out the link posted, and i will probly be posting up about more stuff if i cant find it in the search function.
You wouldn't be dissappointed with the Desire, infact, you wouldn't be dissapointed with any of hTC's android phones, especially unbranded ones. I strongly suggest you to flash a custom rom tho, they are quicker and more efficient than stock roms and should lengthen your battery life compared to normal stock roms.
Well I hope you will enjoy the phone, and have fun in the Desire forum
started using my desire last night, havnt evan had time to set anything up on it, i need to get used to the touch screen, soo used to having touch & type lol
have installed a few things such ass whatapp & juice defender because the people i work with rate that app highly with there galaxy S's

[Q] Gingerbread Update Release Date Confirmed

Sorry for creating yet another Gingerbread thread, but i thought everyone should know HTC has confirmed the release date of Gingerbread for the Desire HD, Desire Z, Desire and Incredible S
They will all receive the update by the end of June.
Sources -
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/27/htc-incredible-s-desire-hd-desire-z-and-original-desire-will-a/
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-desire...feed&utm_campaign=Feed: slashgear (SlashGear)
What does everyone think?
It is way to late period.
I posted my comment already at Engadget and not gonna repeat it here.
All i can say is that HTC sucks in software development. ( and i express myself mildly).
luminus said:
It is way to late period.
I posted my comment already at Engadget and not gonna repeat it here.
All i can say is that HTC sucks in software development. ( and i express myself mildly).
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Sorry HTC suck when are the other manufacturers rolling it out
I'm happy with this. With the original desire included, it just makes it better.
Cheers from my DHD.
Samsung are the crappiest when it comes to updates LG are OK HTC are good
But if your not on a custom rom then iit sucks because the carriers will take a long time to update by adding all the bloatware
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Since it takes them time to implement a new Sense update with new versions of Android I think they're doing this on purpose so they can go up to 2.4, skipping 2.3 and releasing in June. If that's correct then I'm going to grumble but accept it, if it's still 2.3 when we get it then I'll be pretty unimpressed. The update is clearly ready if they're releasing other phones with it in the next month or so, I can't imagine what else would be holding it up.
ages away, devastated
2.3 was only made for Google phones and as HTC said the incredible s would get a 2.4 update so all the desire series devices would get 2.4
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If it just once and for all fixes the problem with wireless and wpa, it's okay with me that it takes a while
To be honest I can't be all too happy about it but I can't say I didn't see it coming given the timeframe for the new phone's release.
My guess is they'll want to use the new phones as guinea pigs to iron out any unchecked bugs before trying to port it to the older Desires.
What bugs me is that the Incredible S is supposed to replace the DHD as HTC's new flagship, yet it gives me an impression of inferiority to the DHD in a lot of key ways (including but not limited to, its' construction). Funnier still is that it'll also be coming with FroYo stock, getting the update for Gingerbread (be it 2.3 or 2.4) together with the rest of the gang.
I have the feeling that HTC's "real" new flagship hasn't been announced yet (and that it'll probably be a dual-core phone).
The real new flagship has already been leaked. Google "htc pyramid"
Sent from my super slick Android device.
Ah, yes, and a Dual-Core as well, again, it felt like it was time for the next step, and yes, if the rest of the speculations about the specs have any truth to them we're basically talking about a Behemoth of a cell phone.
I just hope this time HTC keeps it together when it comes to the battery, otherwise I can't imagine how conservative a person would have to be just to get through the day...
It sucks that we've gotta wait a while, but at least we know when we'll have it by

Guesses on details of the official 2.3 release?

I've been checking the tech news blogs pretty much every day for the past week now waiting on word of HTC's official 2.3 release for the Desire. I'm really curious what they're going to do for the update!
Just for fun (and to kill some time in between), I was wondering what you all thought HTC might do... I'm doubtful of all the chatter saying they'll be putting out stock Gingerbread for this update. I'd guess (and am hopeful) they'll be putting a more streamlined version of Sense on the phone. Personally I really dig the skin.
But I'm even *more* hopeful they'll leave so much damned space left over on the ROM I won't have to worry about low disk space notifications ever again (even though indie developers fixed that a long time ago).
By the way, long time xda reader, first time poster. Thanks for everything.
Quick Office,
Facebook,
Google Maps,
Google Search,
You Tube,
Google Voice Search,
Think some or all of above will go as I can't think of much else from FroYo ROM can be downloaded from Market.
Plurk will probably be gone too from leaked GB
I think they should move some bits to HTC Hub though like Teeter and Stocks.
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But I'm even *more* hopeful they'll leave so much damned space left over on the ROM I won't have to worry about low disk space notifications ever again (even though indie developers fixed that a long time ago).
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Doubtful. The initial reason for Gingerbread not coming to the Desire was lack of space - which is true because the amount available on the Desire is abysmal compared to most other phones and you can't change the HBoot partition layout with an RUU/OTA because of S-On (to my knowledge). So to get Gingerbread and Sense on there they'll need to strip it out just to fit and move stuff around, you'll likely end up with less space than before.
I'd wait till it's released and A2SD+ is added by one of our resident geniuses.
YAY! Yet another "Official 2.3.3 ROM" post! (3 a day is just is just slacking these days!)
HTC will release a OLD version of sense, if not 1.9 then 2.0 on 2.3.3.... i will be very surprised (and impressed) if they could fit any thing newer into the phones stock memory, even if they got sense into it the phone carriers still want to put there crappy apps on top of it to make it to big for the phone.
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Doubtful. The initial reason for Gingerbread not coming to the Desire was lack of space - which is true because the amount available on the Desire is abysmal compared to most other phones and you can't change the HBoot partition layout with an RUU/OTA because of S-On (to my knowledge). So to get Gingerbread and Sense on there they'll need to strip it out just to fit and move stuff around, you'll likely end up with less space than before.
I'd wait till it's released and A2SD+ is added by one of our resident geniuses.
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Well sure they can change partition layout. S-on just means that the bootloader only allows flashing of files signed with the right signature. HTC will of course have this signature, and they use it to sign every update and ruu.
So yes they can indeed flash another bootloader both using ota and ruu, so if they want to, they can change the partition layout.
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YAY! Yet another "Official 2.3.3 ROM" post! (3 a day is just is just slacking these days!)
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This one doesn't actually pretend to be a '2.3 is coming' thread though - from the offset it says that it is to guess what's changed in the release when it comes.
If all they are doing is removing apps then all they can realistically remove are the ones dev's normally remove/update from a release anyway, being google's apps that are in the market, and quickoffice and facebook.
Everything else I think is sense/HTC related
Since they don't elude to moving anything like teeter/stocks to HTC Hub to be downloaded if one so wishes, which would be the only other sensible thing to try and squeeze a little more space out of the phone, (other than changing partition sizes which I doubt will happen)
I myself have also been eagerly waiting on stock gingerbread. Never took the plunge to run a custom rom, because stock froyo still runs super smooth, after almost a year. Now that htc claims to remove apps to make room for gingerbread + sense, Im starting to wonder whether the amount of free space will be even less than there is now. The internal storage problem has been my only issue. Knowing it will decrease even more when gingerbread is released, I dont see any benefits to the update, apart from having official gingerbread for the desire, which can be used to make custom roms lacking the internal storage issue.
Guessing on the content or perhaps lack thereof.
HTC is most likely not going to be messing with the HBoot layout, since that would mean user data would be lost. I'm sure that's not acceptable for an OTA.
So all that's left for them is to remove extra apps they loaded into the system partition to make space for whatever components have grown.
Pretty sure things like Plurk and a few others will face the axe.
The version of Sense will be anyones guess, however seeing they put out a test rom with the version of sense that was already on the desire and it fit the existing hboot layout: I'm betting it going to be a more recent version of sense, else they would not need the extra space from removing apps.
Yeah, I never tried to imply this was an "official" release thread... just wanted to shoot the breeze about what you thought might come out from HTC. I think most of you got that, though.
According to HTC's Desire/Gingerbread Update page on Facebook they're supposed to be announcing a release schedule early this week. Seeing as it's Tuesday already we should be hearing something soon.
As for repartitioning the HBOOT layout, I do recall reading somewhere (I can't remember where now) that this update might only be available as an install file to use with HTC Sync and not an OTA update. Again, this was just a rumor I read somewhere, but that might make some sense as most everyone who is rabid for an official 2.3 release would most likely know how to apply that update, and would be able to cope with their contacts/settings being wiped. Casual users, on the other hand, might not be able to deal with that, but also not care so much about updating to GB.
Anyway, still waiting...
I dont care much for sense or which version they will include, i run launcherpro anyways im just happy we will get gingerbread after all and they can remove all lame social apps that i dont use anyways.
Yes those social apps are so ANYOING... I dunno why there are included? I can go to Facebook witout stupid app...
Houpe for 2.1 (3) Sense and striped GingerBread without Google Voice Search, Facebook, HTC Wallpapers, Google Search, You Tube
average joe probably wants facebook preinstalled.
Rageypeep said:
YAY! Yet another "Official 2.3.3 ROM" post! (3 a day is just is just slacking these days!)
HTC will release a OLD version of sense, if not 1.9 then 2.0 on 2.3.3.... i will be very surprised (and impressed) if they could fit any thing newer into the phones stock memory, even if they got sense into it the phone carriers still want to put there crappy apps on top of it to make it to big for the phone.
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YAY! Yet another wanna be Mod. You knew by the title what the thread was about so why did you click on it and open the thread??
Facebook, Twitter, etc are what I want to remove.
Anyway, while waiting for the official 2.3, I managed to root the Desire. And I'm told that by rooting, I would not get OTA updates anymore. I will try to flash a 2.3 before the official one comes out.
nqk said:
Facebook, Twitter, etc are what I want to remove.
Anyway, while waiting for the official 2.3, I managed to root the Desire. And I'm told that by rooting, I would not get OTA updates anymore. I will try to flash a 2.3 before the official one comes out.
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Google+ will be the next one then!
Well here in Aus, Telstra (the telcom who distribute the Desire exclusively) are planning to go ahead with the whole stock AOSP gingerbread update. Dunno how it will work... I'm sure quite a few unknowing owners are going to have a shock when they upgrade to find no Sense anymore (whether that be a good or bad thing for them).
Can't see HTC allowing that as Sense is what they sell as there unique selling point. They wouldn't remove Sense to please a few customers
nqk, I've been running Insertcoin on my Desire for the past few days... I highly recommend it. Haven't looked back since installing.
OK so it's Thursday now, which definitely qualifies as *later* in the week. Seems to me like HTC's hitting some road bumps on this update. (Am I being too hard on their software engineers?)
EddyOS said:
Can't see HTC allowing that as Sense is what they sell as there unique selling point. They wouldn't remove Sense to please a few customers
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I agree -
so... how's the Sensation?
It's awesome!! SO much better than the Desire IMO. Slight possibility my Aunt just got an unbranded unit so possible swaps on the cards Anyway, this from HTC UK's FB page this morning:
"Update: 30.06.11
Hi all- We're excited to share that we are testing our build of Gingerbread for HTC Desire and will start doing quality assurance for it this week. When we have an update on availability we'll post another announcement. Thanks for your patience."
Nearly there...

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