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TP2 update For Vodafone UK users

Hey guys, I came across this! Apperently Voda has released an update for the tp2! Follow this link!
http://devicehelp.vodafone.co.uk/firmwaredevice.php?ModelID=384&e=0
Now all it says is that you can improve efficiancy my downloading this new update! What in the name of god does that mean? thats a very vague description of an update! Anyway i have downloaded it but not yet flashed it to my phone!
Anyone who has flashed it can let us know how efficient their phones become!
PS.. I wish they have gotten rid of the GOD awful Voda theme!
Elfangor

I'm sure I have seen this mentioned elsewhere, I think this is just the standard software, they have just got around to putting on their website.

Vodafone TP2 Update
Hardly worth the updater to be honest best option is to dump the rom and hardspl your phone then upgrade the rom to 6.5

This is definately an update. My phone is a couple of months old and it's ROM is 1.14.161.5, the new ROM is 1.14.161.6, which is what the more recent phones are already coming with. I want to know what the updates/improvements are before I flash it.
Let us know how it goes on
Cheers
Barney

The only question I have, is does the update get rid of the awful red and white background and change it to a "proper" all black one?

I wouldn't bother mate , i've gone from the branded voda rom and never looked back since... get it hardSPL'd and stick a nice stable Win6.5/ Manilla 2.1 ROM on it, you wont regret it.

Company phone! Have to stick with the official one unfortunately. at least until the guarentee runs out.
cheers
Barney

Any word yet on Android 2.2

Is there going to be an upgrade for the desire ?
Would love that ! (Flash)
Any body got some info ?

of course will be, the question is when?

thats quick ....

Are we talking months or weeks untill 'droid 2.2 comes out
The internet is being a bit tight lipped.
The deisre is lovely, but not finished yet.
flash is nice, divx is vital and 720p video is something I wsan't expecting...
How are we going to get it when its released?
Will it be a user ROM style hardware flash through PC sync or will i just download a file to my phone, click go and 10minutes later my phone is amazing??
(i'm having fun wiping smug faces of iphone owning freinds as they ask what phone I have and i show them, then tell them I've got it for £15/mnth )

you'll get it here on XDA as usual. ready to be flashed on your device as any other ROM

2.2 aka Froyo: maybe next week!!!
I read this on engadget:
Engadget's post about Froyo
I don't really want to root my phone as it's I think really good as it is but I wouldn't say no to Froyo! especially since it apparently boosts performance a lot!
Quote form Engadget: "Update: How much faster is a Nexus One running Froyo? 450 percent faster, according to the Android Police. They claim to have a device running the as-yet-unreleased firmware that can perform over 37 million floating-point operations per second in the Linpack benchmark... compared to about 7 megaflops without. Oh yeeaaah."

As soon as a Froyo rom leaks, people will rip it apart and mod it to hell to get it to run on all kinds of devices. I'm sure we'll see Paul make a 2.2 Desire ROM, for example and now that HTC has released the Kernel source code, it should be easier to port existing quality roms like Cyanogenmod to the device. They'll all require root access to flash as they're unofficial roms. HTC will probably eventually port Froyo themselves, but that will probably take months.
Still, 2.2 hasn't shown up yet, so no dice. We'll have to wait until google I/O before that happens

it's going to be loooong till HTC themselves release it..but as soon as its out for nexus we'll see it here on xda in no time!

If you don't want to root & use a cooked ROM I wouldn't count on having it earlier than 6 months from now.
HTC needs to change Sense UI for Android 2.2 and looking at the Hero, which STILL does not have 2.1 I wouldn't expect it to be quick.

stingerpl said:
If you don't want to root & use a cooked ROM I wouldn't count on having it earlier than 6 months from now.
HTC needs to change Sense UI for Android 2.2 and looking at the Hero, which STILL does not have 2.1 I wouldn't expect it to be quick.
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Exactly... I had a hero myself and in order to get 2.1 ....what did I do???
I sold the hero and got a desire

will 2.2 allow us to install apps on SD card??

kvmanohar said:
will 2.2 allow us to install apps on SD card??
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It better....otherwise I'm selling my desire...what a waste of phone, can only install a handful of apps. I bet its restricting developers too.

pistonripper said:
It better....otherwise I'm selling my desire...what a waste of phone, can only install a handful of apps. I bet its restricting developers too.
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Oh don't be so dramatic. I could fit loads on mine just fine. And i rooted and installed apps2sd anyway. Don't get any Android phone if you expect to be able to install millions of apps.

Yeah, we will get it as a Custom Rom in the next few days and from HTC in several months

inkredi said:
Exactly... I had a hero myself and in order to get 2.1 ....what did I do???
I sold the hero and got a desire
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Same here, haha, I think many people have done this. Nexus one was not available yet in my country so I purchased the Desire. Will definitely flash 2.2 on this baby though. No way i am going to wait for HTC anymore.

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Yeah, we will get it as a Custom Rom in the next few days and from HTC in several months
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Months?? Seeing how things are going with the hero, I'd say they'll release it to the desire once the 2.3 is out. So better think of it as next year.

IMO Desire's owners are very important for HTC, since we are buying their flagship phones. I think they must keep us satisfied, if not, we will buy different phone next time. And I won't be happy if Nexus One owners will get 2.2 and we will not.

BTW isnt the evo 4g an Android 2.2 phone quz 2.1 didn't support 4g correct me if im wrong but if it is the update for the desire wont cost them so much time to port.
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I've recently read that the Evo 4G will be an 2.1 phone as well :/

450% FASTER?! HOLYY SHIITT!!! I cant waaiiit!!!

How long do we think it will take to root?

With full access to the ROMs and EVOs now, it doesn't seem like it will take long to me. Do any informed experts have any ideas?

TheBiles said:
With full access to the ROMs and EVOs now, it doesn't seem like it will take long to me. Do any informed experts have any ideas?
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took me 7-8 hours to root the samsung moment once we got a copy of the leaked android 2.1....this phone is setup completely different and i dont physically have it to test anything.
im doing some research and hope to figure out a solution, but it'll be hard for me to test it for sure.
if anybody else has some insight with previous HTC and android experience, that'd be great to hear some other opinions?!
or maybe an HTC phone with similar file system structure which was rooted?

joey do u plan on getting this phone? i had a moment but was lucky enough to get the evo off someone that went to i/o.....it would be awesome to have your kernels working on this bad boy!!!

shakuyi said:
joey do u plan on getting this phone? i had a moment but was lucky enough to get the evo off someone that went to i/o.....it would be awesome to have your kernels working on this bad boy!!!
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yea, im heavily considering it. i qualify for my upgrade so for $199 and giving up a hardware keyboard for all the great hardware features this has, i think its worth it!
i hope to be able to compile a few kernels for you and everybody else

joeykrim said:
yea, im heavily considering it. i qualify for my upgrade so for $199 and giving up a hardware keyboard for all the great hardware features this has, i think its worth it!
i hope to be able to compile a few kernels for you and everybody else
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ah dont even worry about the onscreen keyboard it takes a second to get used to it. that was the reason why i picked the moment over the hero but i still found myself using swype lol. as of now im just using the htc keyboard and its pretty slick so far just have to train the dictionary.

i work for sprint, my indirect rep came in with his evo the other day and so i installed swype 1.25 on it. FREAKIN. AWESOME. also, MAD props to joeykrim. i have the moment and he has done SO many wonderful things with it. but it looks like im going to htc...
EDIT: joey, i would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to see you move to the evo and see what that genius brain can cook up. if you ever need a tester, im all over it. been with you on sdx since the days you and speedrabbit were bustin down and fixing 1.5.

IM getting the EVO day of release and maybe another for testing. Let me know when you want to get this thing a try. i just hope it doesn't brick XD

knowing joeykrim, once he gets his grubby hands on an Evo - it'll be rooted there soon after.
glad to see some familiar names over here guys...

Looks like the question has just about been answered :>
grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/
Old school Palm devs working on it... even without details released, I'd stake my farm on it being 100% legit.
Important note - I have no farm .

HTC Evo 4G rooted in record time
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/24/htc-evo-4g-rooted-in-record-time-video/

Yeah but in case you guys haven't heard the shipped 2.1 rom you guys get may not be final. Sprint could easily push an update to close off root. Just look in the hero section, the final 2.1 RUU is still not able to be rooted by our best devs. Im not trying to worry anybody but it is a possibility.

UK User Desire or N1?

Hello guys,
I've put my HD2 up for sale and i'm looking for a Android phone.
I've obviously got the Desire and N1 in mind however choosing between the two i'm just so unsure.
The Desire has the SenseUI which I love on my HD2, and by my understanding the Widgets are pretty good compared to the N1, but the Android updates will be slower because of SenseUI needing to be integrated on each release.
But I have to admit i'm one of those people who needs a device running on the latest software being all it can be, so with the fact the N1 is already on Froyo 2.2 i'm then pulled towards this phone, as I'm doubtful the Desire will receive the same support over time.
Also if I Root the N1 I presume some people are putting Sense UI on the N1's and I could do the same>?
Likewise could I do the same thing on the Desire, i.e. Vanilla Froyo 2.2 without SenseUI on the Desire? or are they different internally?
My other headache is I would need to buy the N1 from the states, and am concerned of it not working properly in the UK.
with pinch to zoom on the N1 now, the only difference is the slightley different pshyical layout, and SenseUI, with N1 getting the updates first.
If i've said anything incorrect please let me know, correct me, more information is always good
And if you were buying one now which would you buy?
Thanks, Luke.

Why do you NEED the latest software on the device? Bragging rights?
I went from an HD2 to a Desire and it's the best decision I ever made! Sense is better than on the HD2 - working out of the box - and bar A2SD (which I've added on a custom ROM) there's nothing you need 2.2 for...I'd get the Desire and wait for 2.2 to be released - N1 hardware is a bit pap and trackballs have a habbit of going wrong
This is my own view though

I had the same decision but went for the desire purely for money reasons. I thought that the desire would outset the n1 and get a better modding community but it seems I was wrong. There are lots of devs for the n1 that are pretty active and it is very apparent since the release of froyo. But I still prefer the real buttons on the desire but the optical trackball is probably not as easy to use as the n1. Plus from the deg forum I dont think that the desire has been fully rooted yet in respect to loading custom spl (but I may be wrong about that)....if I could go back I would have got the n1

the reason i look to the N1
is because like soulja i feel the Desire is receiving updates later than the N1. Froyo is a clear example. the N1 has it already. but the Desire is going to get it with no date set. my concern is the supporr HTC will offer in future, because of SenseUI. im concerned that the modding, updates will not be as good or regular.
the reason the HD2 is going is because the app market is naff, and app support is failing as everyone is waiting for WM7.
I need a phone i can fiddle with.

Why do you NEED to fiddle with it? What's wrong with it as it is? The N1 got the update first because it is a Google phone outright, all other handsets are 3rd party so of course there'll be a delay in updates - albeit, hopefully, not a long one
The Desire is better than the N1 in every way bar the updates to Android - and I , personally, can wait for FroYo

Sounds like you already set on the n1 but decide to enter a room full of Desire users to dissuade you for some reason.
Do you have to buy from US?

EddyOS said:
Why do you NEED to fiddle with it? What's wrong with it as it is? The N1 got the update first because it is a Google phone outright, all other handsets are 3rd party so of course there'll be a delay in updates - albeit, hopefully, not a long one
The Desire is better than the N1 in every way bar the updates to Android - and I , personally, can wait for FroYo
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Soe people just need to fiddle, leave them to it! Why make loads of custom roms, and change them on a daily basis and flash all the time! People love doing this, and if the N1 has quicker updates, etc let em have it. I personally would love to have time to fiddle with a phone 24/7, but I get an hour a month, and love my desire out the box and Sense is great! If you don't like fiddling too much then great, but if someone loves fiddling then that's great too! Don't question WHY people want summit they just do! I personally would choose the desire as it's great out the box, and better hardware, and OK I may have to wait a little bit for 2.2/2.3, etc, etc in the future, but so what, it doesn't bother me (it may bother others and so be it!)

I love to fiddle, I cooked ROMs for my HD2 as the stock ROMs were poor to say the least. I'm just wondering why this person needs to fiddle. The phone, out the box, is nigh on perfect so there's not a lot to do. FroYo will be out eventually so probably best to wait for it...
It's purely curiosity

Problem i've faced.
IS that like most things we have an idea of how something should work. Anyone who's used a HD2 is probably well aware of how much better it is with C00kies hometab mod. I can't actually use mine Stock lol.
I've had my HD2 2 a while and have only just released 1.72, where as Unlocked people are rockin' on 2.10 While I no this is more todo with the network than the phone, I'd just like to be using the newer more update features as and when they arrive. I also like applying mods to user interface, and sometime functionality.
I'm doubtful of HTC's commitment to keep the Desire up to date. Sure you might see 2.2 but will you get 3.0? will HTC then have replaced the Desire with a new flagship model and say that the Desire is no longer on the update program?
Oddly my problem is with HTC and there Sense UI, don't get me wrong my HD2 without it is crap, but it slows down the updates significantly with regards to the Android system, and this concerns me.
@panos: the Nexus one isn't available in the UK simfree, so i have to buy from the US. However the Desire I an obtain from a UK retailer.
The Desire is £400
The Nexus1 is £437 phone,shipping,vat,import.

If Google release a new phone then the N1 will also be left out of the loop so that's not really a valid argument. You can get the N1 on Vodafone so you could always get a contract with them (assuming you're due an upgrade).
Your experience of WinMo is the same as mine - I was constantly cooking ROMs and Co0kie's HT was a must for me - but on the Desire I've not needed anything bar trying the new radios. You can't compare the 2 as they're worlds apart!!
I prefer the buttons on the Desire to the touchscreen ones on the N1 - and don't get my started on the stupid ball on the N1!!
End of the day, if you're someone who can't leave something alone then get the N1 but IMO the Desire is a superior device and Sense makes it even better. Plain Android is piss poor and just looks boring...

well in a few month when desire is released in north America It's going to gain a lot more attention.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

souljas said:
I had the same decision but went for the desire purely for money reasons. I thought that the desire would outset the n1 and get a better modding community but it seems I was wrong. There are lots of devs for the n1 that are pretty active and it is very apparent since the release of froyo. But I still prefer the real buttons on the desire but the optical trackball is probably not as easy to use as the n1. Plus from the deg forum I dont think that the desire has been fully rooted yet in respect to loading custom spl (but I may be wrong about that)....if I could go back I would have got the n1
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+1 totally agree with you

quite interesting,
some people are saying I'd get a N1 if i could in hindsight. However after looking at the Sense UI i'm having trouble seeing the N1 as a good looking OS

diablous said:
quite interesting,
some people are saying I'd get a N1 if i could in hindsight. However after looking at the Sense UI i'm having trouble seeing the N1 as a good looking OS
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If you really like sense ui then i guess the desire is better for you...but personally, after having the G1, i would go for a phone with a better dev community. I miss my g1 and custom roms,,,,it was very fun and i miss those days...
plus as some have said HTC normally are not very quick with updates like the hero
^^^but yeah i hope when usa gets it the deving will improve

Do hope I am not to late to input on this.
Well through a small loop hole in Vodafones mobile network, I managed to get both the Desire and the Nexus 1.
Initially I had an early upgrade from the sony satio (what an awful phone) to the HTC desire, and loved it. Was absolutely fantastic, loved all of it and couldnt think of trading it away.
However, it stopped working all of a sudden. Around 2 hours later on the phone to vodafone, I was sent a Nexus one the next day. To my dismay, my desire started to work again. Happy days. Anyway, after having both phones for around 2 weeks I've decided that I am to sell the desire, even though the nexus would get me more coin. Yeah, it doesnt look as pretty as sense, but after a while you dont miss it. As for rooting and having latest updates, its the way to go.
IMO get the N1, vodafone do a pretty good deal. Best advise is to make the contract over the phone, they will give you near anything if your convincing

I would have got the N1 if I could go back. As for Sense being good looking I have to disagree. HTC have removed the app transitions (the fade in and out) and replaced the 3d app drawer with a plain black app drawer that lags. Also they have managed to make the default music player worse than stock.
The only thing I like about sense is the widgets, but beautiful widgets is an adequate replacement.
Also the N1 is very easy to root and near impossible to brick, whereas HTC have gone out of their way to spoil the fun and prevent us getting a full root (so far)
I am considering selling my Desire and getting the N1

I got a Desire because the N1 was not available on contract if it was I would of probably gone for the N1.
I spent 18 months on a G1 and loved all the support it got from the modding community much the same as the N1 has now, but I also at the time was in awe of the ui on the Hero which turned out to be a better build than the G1 in my opinion, and I questioned my self on if I made the right choice to get the G1 or not or should of waited a bit longer for the Hero to be released.
Since the Hero came out later, it was behind on the modding scene then picked up pace a lot later on, much the same as I imagine the Desire scene will explode sooner or later especially if we get full root on the device, people also say HTC are slow at updates which is true, but I got an update as soon as took it out of the box, but I think due to the N1 not been available on contract though various carriers in the UK until now and as far as I am aware only Vodafone, HTC has has sold a hell of a lot more Desires though various carriers on contract, that i think Vodafone will ever sell of the N1 thus they might realise that 2.2 should be shipped out to the Desire sooner rather than later to keep its users happy.
My friend has a N1 and my personal opinion the Desire looks a hell of a lot better outside and inside.

[Q]this post is about FIRST CYANOGEN MOD ON WILDFIRE plz read the full description...

i am planning on buying a new phone [HTC salsa / wildfire s ] [samsung ace / wave 2(non-droid)] this month , but these new phones are not being supported by cm7(yet) i definitely want cm7 on my next phone too ....
**so my question is will they be supported BY CM7 at least after a certain time duration (at least htc phones)
***how much duration did CM6 take to support our WILDFIRE after the release of our phone (approx)
****how much duration did our GR8 DEV's take to fill our wildfire with custom roms ([in general]just want to know how much time a htc phone takes to get full dev's support)
+1 for reasonable answers thank you in adv

If you have the budget for a Salsa, why don't you get a Nexus S?
Technically, both Salsa and Wildfire S *should* get CM7, but, seeing their respective forums, it seems the interest in these 2 devices are pretty low (Atleast at this point of time), and there's no root yet. (Alpharev X failed on the Wildfire S). However, as in every case, there is no time frame, because, not every HTC phone is the same. (High end phones like Sensation are already filled with Custom ROMs, but the 2 you listed dont have any)

Tbh, the wildfire community is pretty... bleh, although i kinda miss it a bit, i just sold it yesterday, but the amount of roms that were released... most were... pretty much just rooted stock roms with the same/similar features, or just themed.
Not saying all roms are like that, wildpuzzle, DK, the GB sense and the AOSP roms are the awesome ones with the actual 'devs' (these are the ones worth looking at and should be thanking them too )
What is your budget anyway? I'd prob get a Desire S or something, the Wildfire S is pretty much like the legend, and the samsung ace is... crap. , or get a higher end phone >=D

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If you have the budget for a Salsa, why don't you get a Nexus S?
Technically, both Salsa and Wildfire S *should* get CM7, but, seeing their respective forums, it seems the interest in these 2 devices are pretty low (Atleast at this point of time), and there's no root yet. (Alpharev X failed on the Wildfire S). However, as in every case, there is no time frame, because, not every HTC phone is the same. (High end phones like Sensation are already filled with Custom ROMs, but the 2 you listed dont have any)
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i am confused salsa is around 19k but nexus s is at 28k..there is a lot difference (source : http://univercell.in) i plan on talking a phone around 20k..
yes I've seen both their forums pretty less posts there when compared to ours back then.... i still cant find a perfect phone like our wildfire yet...i don't mind about s-off but want to keep my phone busy using numerous rom's...if not for this reason i wouldn't have been on android
anyway thank you for your suggestion (+1)

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Tbh, the wildfire community is pretty... bleh, although i kinda miss it a bit, i just sold it yesterday, but the amount of roms that were released... most were... pretty much just rooted stock roms with the same/similar features, or just themed.
Not saying all roms are like that, wildpuzzle, DK, the GB sense and the AOSP roms are the awesome ones with the actual 'devs' (these are the ones worth looking at and should be thanking them too )
What is your budget anyway? I'd prob get a Desire S or something, the Wildfire S is pretty much like the legend, and the samsung ace is... crap. , or get a higher end phone >=D
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desire s is a pretty good choice but it is a lil bit above my budget ...although i can wait for long time and buy it.. & there are pretty good rom's available too
thank you for your suggestions (+1) i will keep desire S as a final shot

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i am confused salsa is around 19k but nexus s is at 28k..there is a lot difference (source : http://univercell.in) i plan on talking a phone around 20k..
yes I've seen both their forums pretty less posts there when compared to ours back then.... i still cant find a perfect phone like our wildfire yet...i don't mind about s-off but want to keep my phone busy using numerous rom's...if not for this reason i wouldn't have been on android
anyway thank you for your suggestion (+1)
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Nexus S is 20K.
http://bit.ly/qotXIi
(You can blindly trust Flipkart, have an awesome experience with them, and purchased my Wildfire from them back in Oct (Sadly for 15k )
Also, other stores like LetsBuy, Infibeam are also having it for ~20K.(Haven't purchased from them, so I cant state what experience you may have) Univercell's Price list is definitely way outdated.
Probably the only thing you will miss on the Nexus S is Sense, but then, you are after AOSP ROM's only, so Nexus being a Google phone, is a heaven for AOSP ROMs.

that's awesome news ... i am not a sense fan anyway ... well i will go for nexus s for sure
thank you again
edit ut of luck.. flipkart shows that this phone is out of stock ... will have to try somewhere else

OMG, it was in stock when I posted the link! I am 101% sure!!
That's bad luck anyhow, I guess you can look elsewhere, or, be a bit more patient.

Check mysmartprice.com
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OMG, it was in stock when I posted the link! I am 101% sure!!
That's bad luck anyhow, I guess you can look elsewhere, or, be a bit more patient.
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hehe guess nexus s is selling like hot cakes
sure ill try somewhere else...
whoa not available in flipkart , letsbuy , and even univercell ...

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Check mysmartprice.com
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oh sure ill check that ... thanks a lot(+1)

It's available at Infibeam, but the price is 21k.
Still, I am pretty sure it will be back in stock soon at flipkart. BTW, did you try your local stores?

people don't even know nexus s ...except for branded stores
no luck at the local stores too...guess ill wait a bit long and see if any stock are available later