Wondering if I should take the plunge or not, but I'm not sure if there's good enough reason to justify doing it, or if all signs point to no.
One big thing I want is Flash support.
I'll create a list for other readers on what some of the posters have to say.
-backup programs most of them don't work yet on froyo beta
-titanium backup does work with Pauls pre-rooted version but still, the lag kind outweighs that.
-froyo beta has some performance issues
-friendster is reportedly not working properly with froyo beta
-some problems with the external sd-card in the latest froyo ROM
-flashed it for about 2 weeks on my SGS and the performance is horrid, SO many FC's and so much lag
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backup programs most of them don't work yet on froyo beta
froyo beta has some performance issues
friendster is reportedly not working properly with froyo beta
that's what i can remember so far
I was thinking of flashing a Froyo beta but when I read that Titanium backup will not work I stopped downloading a Froyo rom...
I really need all my apps... and the thought of installing over 160 apps manually makes me &
I will wait till Titanium Backup works
Titanium backup works for me.. but there are some problems with the external sd-card in the latest froyo ROM. The external SD is write protected so if tit. backup want to restore things to the ext. sd card it cannot. You cannot even move files over from your PC to the external SD card. I found some workarounds, but none that works very smooth.
FrezoreR said:
Titanium backup works for me.. but there are some problems with the external sd-card in the latest froyo ROM. The external SD is write protected so if tit. backup want to restore things to the ext. sd card it cannot. You cannot even move files over from your PC to the external SD card. I found some workarounds, but none that works very smooth.
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Hi... so is the external sd card useable at all?
Say if I wanted to transfer a film / music to the sd card by connecting the phone to the pc via usb cable... could I do this? Or are you saying this is not possible with the beta froyo roms?
thanks
I wouldn't reccomend the latest JP3 release of FroYo, i flashed it for about 2 weeks on my SGS and the performance is horrid, SO many FC's and so much lag i got to the point where i couldn't take it anymore so flashed back to JM5 and used Setenza's SamSet 1.9c with One Click Lagfix, now my SGS is flying!
I say don't bother with the leaked FroYo releases, wait till Samsung releases the final versions and wait till there is more support from other devs here but still, it was nice and some visual stuff was changed plus Flash was good, otherwise i don't really miss it. Also as stated above, the SD Card error was crap, you cannot use your EXT SD Card if you connect it to your PC (meaning you can't write files to it) so that's pointless, it comes up with protected error. so flashing back to JM5 fixed that!
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I wouldn't reccomend the latest JP3 release of FroYo, i flashed it for about 2 weeks on my SGS and the performance is horrid, SO many FC's and so much lag i got to the point where i couldn't take it anymore so flashed back to JM5 and used Setenza's SamSet 1.9c with One Click Lagfix, now my SGS is flying!
I say don't bother with the leaked FroYo releases, wait till Samsung releases the final versions and wait till there is more support from other devs here but still, it was nice and some visual stuff was changed plus Flash was good, otherwise i don't really miss it. Also as stated above, the SD Card error was crap, you cannot use your EXT SD Card if you connect it to your PC (meaning you can't write files to it) so that's pointless, it comes up with protected error. so flashing back to JM5 fixed that!
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Hey mate. Thank you so much for replying. Great post! I will hold off from flashing a froyo release and stick to Samset 1.9C.
Cheers buddy
Titanium Backup works indeed in Froyo JP1, JP2 and pre-rooted JP3 by paul from modaco
jUsT2eXy said:
Hey mate. Thank you so much for replying. Great post! I will hold off from flashing a froyo release and stick to Samset 1.9C.
Cheers buddy
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No worries mate and yeah titanium backup does work with Pauls pre-rooted version but still, the lag kind outweighs that.
I've been running Paul's rooted JP3 as my day-to-day ROM and - for my usage - it's very stable.
There is a trick to getting the stability (credit to whomever first did this, I just copied) - you need to edit your /system/build.prop and turn off JIT. The phone is much more stable after that, and browsing is still fast etc, I'm not that bothered by benchmarks myself. No real lag to speak of although probably not performing as well as my previous JG5+lagfix
Here's the relevant lines of my build.prop:
dalvik.vm.heapsize=24m
dalvik.vm.execution-mode=int:fast
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Really annoying bugs:
1. GPS is still buggy, and the special code to put into dialer does not work on JP3
2. Viewing tabs in the browser results in a FC more often than not
3. When mounted to a PC the external SD is read-only
Things I like:
1. PIN code rather than pattern unlock as an option
2. Better memory management. No need for a task killer (though Samsung now include one in JP3)
3. Google search (on the phone itself) seems quicker and more useful
4. The culmination of lots of little things - the Market App comments, one checkbox to toggle mobile data, more voice recogniser languages
So, it is pretty borderline and if I'm honest it's not that different from an Eclair+lagfix. I primarily use it for Google services, twitter, and as a phone, so things like Asphalt not installing don't bother me.
On JP3 Froyo I couldn't get the following apps to work:
Googly Sky Maps
Aldiko eBook reader
The following apps were very unstable and prone to frequent crashes not present in builds of 2.1:
VLC Remote
ACV (Android Comic Viewer)
Skyfire
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On JP3 Froyo I couldn't get the following apps to work:
Googly Sky Maps
Aldiko eBook reader
The following apps were very unstable and prone to frequent crashes not present in builds of 2.1:
VLC Remote
ACV (Android Comic Viewer)
Skyfire
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I have no problems at all with google sky map. I have further more not had an application that did not work on JP3 yet. As far as stable goes I have had none problems with stability. I have applied lag fix, so everything is flying. Get a score of 1800+ with quadrant, froyo roms gets lower scores.
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I don't know if anybody else noticed this, but my 3G data connection was woeful on JP3. It would frequently drop out and/or only be connected for a few seconds out of every few minutes. However it would still send data, which is still counted against my cap...
You have to understand that there is a reason why Samsung are releasing Froyo at the end of September, it takes time to optimize and debug everything that's new and retrofit the old stuff.
Well i do agree that some aspects were better, including animations, the pre-release of Froyo is still not stable IMHO, sure you can apply the new CFlagfix but Eclair atm runs much better than Froyo, there is a huge difference between the performance of both on our phones right now cause Froyo is in pre-release stage. When i flashed back to 2.1 my SGS works flawlessly now, evenn GPS, so no issues there. But GPS did work fine in Froyo, i did a whole 2 hour car journey (each way) and was awesome, there were some random drops and on the way back my phone was being so slow and difficult the GPS just wasn't getting a position. But yeah, if it works out for you, stay with JP3, or just go back to Eclair
- camera panorama doesn't work and many other things in camera
- clock delays
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I have no problems at all with google sky map. I have further more not had an application that did not work on JP3 yet. As far as stable goes I have had none problems with stability. I have applied lag fix, so everything is flying. Get a score of 1800+ with quadrant, froyo roms gets lower scores.
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I just tried downloading and installing Google Sky Maps from Market and it failed. JP3 (Pauls's pre-rooted version r2).
I'm considering going to SamSet's JP2 Froyo which I think has less issues, not sure
After reading this I might flash to Samsets 2.1.
2.2 Is very unstable. I get constant crashes on my apps. I don't find any lag generally but the instability of apps is terrible (yes, I understand, its a pre-release!).
However I am enjoying flash! But Skyfire does the job (+ possibly better!).
BlazerRazor said:
I have no problems at all with google sky map. I have further more not had an application that did not work on JP3 yet. As far as stable goes I have had none problems with stability. I have applied lag fix, so everything is flying. Get a score of 1800+ with quadrant, froyo roms gets lower scores.
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same here... i've been using it for 2 weeks and with the lagfix it works great
Mobile AP is broken in JP3 too..
Anyway, the only thing better in JP3 at the moment is the new API's, which you possibly wont use anyway.
Related
mssmison's Eclair V7 Updated 03-25
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643045
or
polymod 2.1g Full Market Update 23 Mar!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600154
Warm Donut version
Yes, I would like to know which is more popular for the Kaiser is well. Between polymod, mssmison, warm donut or something else...
pentagramII said:
Warm Donut version
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mee too
Interesting, pretty much even 2-2-2-1.
I have yet to find a version that wifi worked.
hoatienii said:
mee too
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I removed that option because it's an older version of android, which should work even better.
I just tried both versions (on zImage 23-03) with 2 ext2 partitions, mssmison is much faster all the time after a few boots (but can't get wifi to work (zImage 23-03), so I guess I will be using windows mobile for a while).
I use Polymod 2.1g on SDCard.
But mssmison's Eclair is faster and could be best if have working WiFi.
I not use NAND because i wish have "dualsystem" phone
Warm Donut version - best!
WarmDonut is much faster and very stable but as I get no cellular data it's not very useful.
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WarmDonut is much faster and very stable but as I get no cellular data it's not very useful.
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Weird I use warmdonut also (Which I find to be the fastest) and my cellular data works perfectly. Sometimes I won't be able to use it and then that's when I restart.
DmK75 said:
I use Polymod 2.1g on SDCard.
But mssmison's Eclair is faster and could be best if have working WiFi.
I not use NAND because i wish have "dualsystem" phone
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wifi works on mssmision using BT-fix from poly (and maybe other updates, look at another thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653871
mssmison**********************
mssmison's version is super fast.
clean and looks good
stable out the gate.
except for:
not sure why but anything having to do with gps locks up the phone and it reboots to bootanimation. even if gps is off, any app that i use will lockup.
nothing is mentioned on mssmison's thread. so I am assuming it to be kaiser related.
btw I am using nhb, bt-patch and wifi fix from polymod's.
polymod***************
with polymod I get random results with out the gate stability.
usually following the installing tips from his OP works pretty good.
while the latest version is way faster than previous builds it still has
glitchy graphics and becomes bogged down easily compared to mssmison's, slm's kaiserdroid or myn donut.
but overall if installed good, it is pretty stable and looks and works nice.
Can you use 2 folders andboot and andboot2 (with same files except androidinstaller) on root SD card or must all files be in /andboot?
edit: only when using .img and together ext2 method.
First I tried mssmison, it was very fast but WiFi didn't work for sure, I don't have anything BT except for kaiser so I didn't install BT-fix. But I don't remember for sure but 3G might have not worked for me.
Polymod is slow, but other than that I have no issues with it. It catches WiFi, even adhoc(which G1 of my brother isn't capable of without playing around with some crazy files). On polymod USB doesn't work though, so it's little irritating to access memory card. Is there any build that has USB support?
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First I tried mssmison, it was very fast but WiFi didn't work for sure, I don't have anything BT except for kaiser so I didn't install BT-fix. But I don't remember for sure but 3G might have not worked for me.
Polymod is slow, but other than that I have no issues with it. It catches WiFi, even adhoc(which G1 of my brother isn't capable of without playing around with some crazy files). On polymod USB doesn't work though, so it's little irritating to access memory card. Is there any build that has USB support?
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use another kernel (zimage).
wifi works
I prefer warm donut. Faster than the others, and I was able to get wifi working. Check out Warm Donuts thread. WifiRL_110 works for the kaiser. It's been running great.
Afraid I'm another donut fan - wifi and bt are working now and even from sd card via haret it's fast!
If I could find a droid with a working way to disable 3g then i'd move from windows and flash it
The new build of msssison contains a lott of bugs, better use polymod 2.1d
Both are still slow (using gmail takes 4-5secs)
hi! like many of you i have been waiting for a clean aosp rom and it looks like we get some first taste of the forbidden fruit there. i found the following in the vibrant forums:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=757000
remember it's for the vibrant and it's alpha (no radio & other things) but i guess it should work for the i9000 as well. it's just a start but finally things are happening . i will give it a try shortly
thanks to eugene, barak and possible others i don't know of!
just flashed it and played a little bit and here is my report:
* wlan works but is slower than stock
* calling works but 3g-data doesn't
* camera doesn't work
i didn't test:
* bluetooth
* gps
everything else seems to work and is quite smooth!
quadrant-score: 859, 875, 845
very nice work for an alpha version! i'm quite excited for what's to come
edit:
* after sync and reboot wlan seems to be as fast as normal...maybe my isp f***** up (again).
* after moving /data/data to /dbdata/data (dbdata is not used by this rom) this thing is FLYING!
* everything seems stable so far
i think i will keep this for now even if data is not working. awesome experience to have stock android (again)!
Very nice to see a asop on the way. Lets hope some I9000 dev have the time to adapt this for galaxy
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Very nice to see a asop on the way. Lets hope some I9000 dev have the time to adapt this for galaxy
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after playing around with this i think there won't be a lot we have to change! just the kernel and the modules (i still use the JM2 kernel/zImage) and that's easy to adapt...
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after playing around with this i think there won't be a lot we have to change! just the kernel and the modules (i still use the JM2 kernel/zImage) and that's easy to adapt...
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How did you install this asop rom?
I guess some files mods are needed? Build.prop etc?
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How did you install this asop rom?
I guess some files mods are needed? Build.prop etc?
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nope. just flash the zip with clockwork over an existing firmware (in my case JM2). first boot will take a littel longer because of odex-ing.
Great to see some work on AOSP for the Galaxy S series. I've been surprised that no-one's done anything on it before, but confident that if the right people turned their minds to it they'd be able to get it running (even if all the drivers aren't sorted at first).
I don't really have a problem with TouchWiz, considering that I'm actually using LauncherPro and like the notification bar toggles etc. However, AOSP builds make me confident we'll see Gingerbread (and beyond?) because we won't have to depend on Samsung.
Wow, this is good news! I'm looking forward to having a stock Android. Although I want to try Sense more!
Im guessing once this becomes more stable, Sense is not far off?
wow, very good news.... when 3g-data will be fixed, surely i'll try this, even if i like touchwiz, i think that the sgs will be smoother without it....
hoping also in a AOSP FROYO ROM
report after ~17h use:
* gps doesn't work
* wlan works well and fast (i had 18-19mbit before with speedtest.net, same as my pc) but the driver seems to have some stability problems when it's idle for some time...
* short radio problem before, restart fixed it so radio probably is a little instable in the long run as well
quadrant scores of ~950 but linpack of only ~6.5MFLOPS? strange! everything is running very very fast and responsive (only fix aplied is: moved /data/data on /dbdata/data) and it boots faster. both definitely better than stock!
i am wondering why almost nobody seems to be interested in this. i had the feeling that more people wanted an aosp rom since we had a thread about that almost ever 2-3 days ...
I tried this asop for few hours: slower than best sgs rom's , no data connection, wifi slow, some app errors. Still not good enough for daily use but a very promising start.
Sounds really great, but I'm on JP3 right now and it seems to have less bugs than this :-/
This is only an alpha. I'll be more inclined to test when its in beta, as will many others I think. Especially as there are some troubles with core drivers.
Does this already run on a different file system (instead of RFS)? If not, will it be possible in the future to do so?
nrg said:
Does this already run on a different file system (instead of RFS)? If not, will it be possible in the future to do so?
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no, it does not repartition anything.
yes, if you repartition the nand and have a kernel with e.g. yaffs2 support.
should both be possible atm with some effort...
i'm really interested,although Wiz notification bar is handy (but i could manage with standard power control widget)...i'm not able to program or do other too technical stuff,but i'd be happy to check for bugs (when it'll become a little more usable,i'm on h3g and i absolutely need 3g )
yeah, they are working on it and will soon release the source on github. i use it for almost 2 days now and except the missing data it's working fine for me. really fast and sleek. i guess that we will soon have a beta version with most of the stuff working....i think it's just amazing that this rom is only about half the size of the samsung firmware even with gapps!
although i like stock android more 2 things i already miss are the notification bar and the movie player which can play so many more formats than the stock one, but thats a small price to pay.
Can't the .apk's be ripped and installed anyway? I'm looking forward to try this when data is working!
Is this 2.1 or 2.2?
khsbenny said:
Can't the .apk's be ripped and installed anyway? I'm looking forward to try this when data is working!
Is this 2.1 or 2.2?
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hm. the apps could probably be ported but it would be more complicated than installing the apk. they rely on libraries, the custom ui stuff and probably other apps like content providers etc. the only thing i REALLY want is the movie player! it's just very comfortable to just copy some movies/series onto the device before a train ride without the need to transcode
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i am wondering why almost nobody seems to be interested in this. i had the feeling that more people wanted an aosp rom since we had a thread about that almost ever 2-3 days ...
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Interested, yea. As in "interesting to follow and see if it becomes functional." At the moment it's an alpha with no 3g data, wifi issues, bluetooth issues, no camera, and no GPS.
What more do you expect with it in its current state? Sheesh.
Just curious, I've been scouring the various threads and just figured I would post a separate thread to try and figure this out...
has anyone
1)side-by-side compared Vipers current EXT4 rom (released 1/5) vs Mammons current rom on EXT4 released 1/3) and performance gauged it ? Thoughts ?
2) If so, did you move any cache or programs to the SD card, and did you notice any increases?
3) are you using a class 6 microsd card or better ?
4) journaling - was it off or on, and did it make any difference performance wise?
5) is wifi tether working on either of them?
Thanks in advance for your help)
I'm curious on some direct comparisons as well between these ROM's, but also toss in Nebula ROM. I'd love nothing more than to be able to flash all of them and do my own benchmarking, but lack of time + my Epic is my only point of contact and i need to be reachable by my job 24/7 prevents me from getting too crazy with this stuff
Mammons 1.1.3 w/ext 4 is sweet. Coming from a stock Dk28 rom and this is amazing! No comparisons to other EXT4 roms though. Also, wireless tether 2.0.5 seems to work. A little flaky at times to connect but nothing a restart wont fix. After connecting it seems fine. Havent tried the new tether 2.0.6 released today yet.
Please post questions in General section.
sorry about that----i figured that general was just nonspecific stuff...and questions like this were about developing roms, so went there my bad )
I have tried both of these. Both are great ROM's. I am currently on Mammon's for personal preference. I have had no stability issues what so ever.
-I am still on RFS, so I cannot comment on the ext4 stuff.
-I have the stock SD card.
-No programs on SD card unless it does it automatically.
-Wifi tether works amazing, I use barnacle free though. the android-wifi-tether was too flaky for me. barnacle allows me to work off the wifi connection for a long time ( I have tested up to 5 hrs without problem, haven't had time to test longer)
I don't have performance programs to test. From real world perspective, Mammon's seem slightly more stable to me. And what I mean by that is, it feels snappy all the time. Sometimes with Viper, when I would go to make a phone call, I would get a tiny bit of lag etc. I don't know if it was me or the actual rom. I wouldn't take anything away from Viper though, it is a really nice rom.
All I know is, with either Viper or Mammon, my phone was running far better than it ever was at stock or any 2.1 rom, and it had more features! These guys make high quality, feature rich roms. They should be working for google or samsung or something.
hello everybody
I am totally a noob as you say. i have a defy officialy updated to 2.2.2; since then i have some lag and reboot. in the french forum i have been advised to move to cm7 to avoid such pb. they give me links and tutorials, but it seems very hard to me to go ahead, i roughly succed in recording apk in the sd cards.
they try to help me nicely, but i feel totaly lost moreover with this strange vocabulary you use
this is why i am wondering if it is a good thing for me and the use i have of the defy to try to upgrade it.
basically, i read my emails, skype friends, facebook, read ebooks and take pictures and video of my sons i don't feel any probs with motoblur, don't play game or video or other stuffs like that.
even now, i am writing with my laptop .
i am pissed off when it reboot but it isn't not the end of the world.
what cm7 could bring to sb like me ?
thanks for your help
I do not use the Defy, but it sounds like you are happy with your phone. CM7 streamlines a lot of
unwanted and imo unneeded apps (and lots more really) from your phone. If you are satisfied with your phone's performance I see no need to do anything. I do however use CM7 and love the less is more feel and MUCH better performance.
Read the forums to decide what is best for your own needs.
Cheers
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Hmmm...if y you are new to rooting, flashing and using recovery and is not adventurous, then I suggest to stay with froyo as of now especially if you don't have the time or a spare phone. But if you really want a faster (case to case), good on battery( case to case), beingconstantly updated phone, then change to cm7.
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This is really a nice qn
I have used official eclair froyo miui cm7
cm7 is not so gud in customizations.
They give some hardware acceleration and you will not find much of lags on that gingerbread UI.
For looks, i recommend u to use Launcher pro . I am using it with cm7 and the combination is perfect.
U can definitely move to cm7 latest nightly.If u want good camera then u can move to milestone 2 rom.
On the contrary, CM7 is heavy customizable. Lots of features. I suggest you read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065798 and the CM7 thread for the latest Google Apps and Cm7. It's not that hard to install, actually it's really easy if you follow their steps.
You can use ADW/ Launcher pro or GO launcher. I personally use Go Launcher and i like it, doesn't crash, loads fast.
You can PM me if you want help in upgrading. Why keep your smartphone on 2.2 when you can unleash it's full potential with 2.3.4. Another reason is apps support, everything works on Gingerbread but not everything on Froyo, Hardware is much more faster ( download Quadrant Standard from the market) i get 2200-2400 . Browsing, doc reading/editing is much smoother. Better battery and the list could go on.
Oh, andf Nightlies are for testing... RC0/RC1 are stable versions to use.
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I do not use the Defy, but it sounds like you are happy with your phone. CM7 streamlines a lot of
unwanted and imo unneeded apps (and lots more really) from your phone. If you are satisfied with your phone's performance I see no need to do anything. I do however use CM7 and love the less is more feel and MUCH better performance.
Read the forums to decide what is best for your own needs.
Cheers
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yes, i was happy, except with th lags and reboots i meet since i updated it to froyo, but it isn"t so bad
salingpusa said:
Hmmm...if y you are new to rooting, flashing and using recovery and is not adventurous, then I suggest to stay with froyo as of now especially if you don't have the time or a spare phone. But if you really want a faster (case to case), good on battery( case to case), beingconstantly updated phone, then change to cm7.
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i think your are true, the gain i can havve compares to my use are very low, better stay and crossing my finger for an official upgrading
Deonix said:
On the contrary, CM7 is heavy customizable. Lots of features. I suggest you read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065798 and the CM7 thread for the latest Google Apps and Cm7. It's not that hard to install, actually it's really easy if you follow their steps.
You can use ADW/ Launcher pro or GO launcher. I personally use Go Launcher and i like it, doesn't crash, loads fast.
You can PM me if you want help in upgrading. Why keep your smartphone on 2.2 when you can unleash it's full potential with 2.3.4. Another reason is apps support, everything works on Gingerbread but not everything on Froyo, Hardware is much more faster ( download Quadrant Standard from the market) i get 2200-2400 . Browsing, doc reading/editing is much smoother. Better battery and the list could go on.
Oh, andf Nightlies are for testing... RC0/RC1 are stable versions to use.
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i had a quick look at the tutorial for noob and it is clearly easier than thr one i read before.
finally i will keep this version but i will keep on reding here, as i am very nosey i will certainely jump the gap one day.
thanks for all your replies and explanation
Had cm7 on my SGS got my defy and knew it had 200mhz less processor but otbwas very laggy needed restarting loads lots of force close. Opening Google maps was a joke.
Installed cm7 all better now and it removed the 800mhz underclock so now rocking a 1ghz and it works better then my SGS. Did some quick boot tests, opened a few apps defy was quicker then the SGS and the iPhone 3gs
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I suggest you to read this thread. People around here usually talk about pros of CM7 (and custom ROMs in general), but you have to be aware that there are certain cons also.
Japro said:
I suggest you to read this thread. People around here usually talk about pros of CM7 (and custom ROMs in general), but you have to be aware that there are certain cons also.
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thanks,
after an attentive look at it, it seems that most probs are on camera and as it is a main use of my defy i will stay with official froyo.
thanks guys
I had some reboots and issues too after updating to official froyo. They were all gone after doing a complete wipe.
If you have many apps installed and stuff on your phone, root your phone using SuperOneClick (is really, REALLY easy.. click, click rooted) and install Titanium Backup. Save all your apps and do a complete Wipe.
After that, your phone should be working perfectly. To do this wipe, with the phone turned off, hold Volume Down and turn it on (while still holding V. Down) at the triangle screen press at the same time Vol up and Vol Down. There you will see the options to Clear Cache and Delete User data.
You could also try only wiping cache, it wont delete any information on your phone, but might fix issues (No rooting or anything special needed for this)
Hope it helps~
Zephyrot' s post speaks true. See if you can't fix the issues with a factory reset / cache clear
For the first few months I didn't want to really root my phone or flash it as I was expecting ear piece problem. When I finally took the plunge I wanted a rom that removed motoblur, it's launcher and almost everything else so I could configure it myself from market apps and always have the latest versions.
This lead me not to CM7 - which is also rather bloated and still rather buggy when i last tried the nightlies it 2 weeks ago - but Barebones: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=977989
I installed 1.5.1 after flashing the nordic 2.2.2. I have never been happier.
I have now updated to 1.5.6 + the update.zip for market fixes - used Titanium backup *root* to transfer my apps and settings. I replaced the zoom launcher with launcherPro, milestone overclock to 1100 at 65vsel (after some testing with lower / higher settings).
Finally it was a blurless, bare rom that has the pure minimum as a base and all else can be added via the market afterwards.
Advantages :
its 2.3.4
highly customizable
gr8 performance
lots of options under cyanogenmod settings
mobile will be fully flexible
rest all feature u will come to know only when u try it
all the best
So far I have always been running rooted stock ROMS. From what I read they tent to be very stable, the battery last longer, and do not lose some features (4G, HDMI) etc.
However lately, probably because of the apps I have installed, the phone is pretty slow, the memory on the phone is running out and does not work properly.
It is time for a complete wipe. However I am not the kind the person that change rom once a week. I would like something for the long term.
I have a few questions (feel free to answer to a subset of them):
1) I can I maximize the free space on the phone? On stock you can update a stock app (ex flash, acrobat reader, etc) but you cannot uninstalled. I was wondering if after the update, I have now the app taking twice as much space that is supposed to.
2) What is the best way to backup all the apps on the phone and restore them quickly, being able to chose what and what not? I am using Titanium Backup but it is not clear what is an installed app and what is system app. How do I guarantee that I do not lose the app data? I am trying to find a way that once I update the ROM I can configure/restore the apps that I want without having to spend hours on it. What I am afraid is to install/restore something that it is not going to work but it takes spaces on the phone. One of the thing I really want to keep is the email configuration (3 gmails account, 1 hotmail and the link with Facebook accounts).
3) I am using App 2 SD Free but there are some large apps that cannot be moved on the SD (gmail, facebook, qik, flash, maps, twitter, Google Music, G+, etc). Does any work around exist to save precious space on the phone?
4) Regarding stability, not bloated, and full features available on OTA (4G, Bluetooth, HDMI, etc) What is the best ROM? I was looking into Fresh Evo (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20101297), Swagged Out (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1258932), Sprint Updated 2.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321340), Clean Rom 1.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351890). I am leaning toward Fresh Evo because the author have been updating for a long time). Any suggestions?
Best,
Camicia
Camicia said:
So far I have always been running rooted stock ROMS. From what I read they tent to be very stable, the battery last longer, and do not lose some features (4G, HDMI) etc.
However lately, probably because of the apps I have installed, the phone is pretty slow, the memory on the phone is running out and does not work properly.
It is time for a complete wipe. However I am not the kind the person that change rom once a week. I would like something for the long term.
I have a few questions (feel free to answer to a subset of them):
1) I can I maximize the free space on the phone? On stock you can update a stock app (ex flash, acrobat reader, etc) but you cannot uninstalled. I was wondering if after the update, I have now the app taking twice as much space that is supposed to.
Use A2SD, in terminal type:
SU
a2sd cachesd
Moves your Dalvik Cache to the SD Card. Free'd up about 200+MB on mine
2) What is the best way to backup all the apps on the phone and restore them quickly, being able to chose what and what not? I am using Titanium Backup but it is not clear what is an installed app and what is system app. How do I guarantee that I do not lose the app data? I am trying to find a way that once I update the ROM I can configure/restore the apps that I want without having to spend hours on it. What I am afraid is to install/restore something that it is not going to work but it takes spaces on the phone. One of the thing I really want to keep is the email configuration (3 gmails account, 1 hotmail and the link with Facebook accounts).
It's actually very easy to tell which are user apps with TB. They're the ones in white text
3) I am using App 2 SD Free but there are some large apps that cannot be moved on the SD (gmail, facebook, qik, flash, maps, twitter, Google Music, G+, etc). Does any work around exist to save precious space on the phone?
4) Regarding stability, not bloated, and full features available on OTA (4G, Bluetooth, HDMI, etc) What is the best ROM? I was looking into Fresh Evo (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20101297), Swagged Out (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1258932), Sprint Updated 2.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321340), Clean Rom 1.0 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351890). I am leaning toward Fresh Evo because the author have been updating for a long time). Any suggestions?
MIUI, as long as you don't need 4G, everything else works and it's extremely stable. Other than a few times trying other ROMs, I've been using it as a Daily since June
Best,
Camicia
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Thank you for your answers. I have some follow up questions:
1)
Use A2SD, in terminal type:
SU
a2sd cachesd
Moves your Dalvik Cache to the SD Card. Free'd up about 200+MB on mine
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What is the quickest way to use terminal? Do I need the dev tools on my computer and put the phone in debug mode?
Where is the Dalvik Cache normally stored? I thought it was on RAM. Since it is a cache, I would expect that it changes often. Is it not going to wear out the sd card quickly?
2) The point is that I want to save also some system settings (ex: remembered password of wifis, browser history, sync settings, etc). Last backup save 203 items. It is going to be a pain to go thought one by one.
4) I looked at MIUI but I ruled it out because it does not support 4G. I use it every now and then.
Like you I was having some problems with my rooted stock (low phone memory, slow and some other performance issues).
I downloaded ROM Manager and then made a backup of my rooted stock. You can also do it manually by booting into recovery but ROM Manager is easier though some people will say is more prone to errors. Also download Titanium Backup or something similar and save all of the apps (both download and system apps).
Once I backed up my rooted stock ROM I then downloaded and installed the latest Cyanogenmod. As this does not have HTC Sense or bloatware I immediately got a significant amount of free space that handles all that I load.
One thing with Cyanogenmod 7.1, some people like myself will have freezing issues if you have less than 130 MB of free space on the phone. This is not a problem for me as I have more than that available. I chose Cyanogoenmod ROM over MIUI ROM as Cyanogenmod allows for 4G. Take a look though at all of the ROMs out there and decide for yourself.
I find that everything is running faster now and I no longer have the Bloat that Sprint put on the phone. You can also move more apps over to the SD Card freeing up more internal memory.
Apps like Flash and Adobe Reader can be downloaded from the Market and are updated just like any other app.
Good luck
Uhh, no to ROM Manager. It's known to cause problems.
The Terminal is an app. You use it on your phone.
AS for system settings, only a very few can be successfully moved from ROM to ROM. The only thing I backup is my Alarms. You don't have to do them one at a time, you know. Hit Menu, Batch and then you can do them en masse
Depending on how many apps you load on your phone you may want to re-partition your SD card if you have the space and create a 1-2 gig ext2 or ext3 partition to use for apps2sd. The main reason I rooted my EVO was because I constantly kept running out of space on my phone. I'm an app addict though and have been known to have up to 200+ apps on my phone before I re-flash it with another rom. With a 1.5 gig partition and apps2d, I have never run out of space for apps on my phone though If you do decide to re-partition your SD card you will need to completely backup your SD card to your PC first as it will wipe all data on the card. I have a 16 gig class 10card in my EVO and the speed is pretty good.
i would give energy sensation a go, i was using that rom as my daily it is really staple, great battery life and improves the video recording to 1080p HD as well as plenty of other little tweaks here and there....I am running ics-decks-pre-alpha7 which i am really liking only thing is you would have to be willing to give up your camera til a stable alpha or beta is released. I hope this helps...
I have been running the Sprint Updated 2.0 Final for a few weeks (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20631581 ). I also re-partition my SD card with 1.5Gb (if I remember well). So far everything is good except:
1) I have 99Mb free on the phone. I think the main reason is that I disinstall some of the Sprint Bloatware and haven't reinstall all the apps. However I started having problems when I had 60Mb available before the upgrade to this new ROM. So I am afraid that I am getting close :-/
2) Wifi Tether has problems. I am experience the problem here: http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/issues/detail?id=1288 .
The workaround with Barnacle alleviate the problem but beside being annoying that I have to start Bernacle first and then the Wi-Fi tether, it sometimes stop working (I think it is when I I use the 4G and the 4g connection is lost) and I have to go though the cycle again :-/
Best,
Camicia
Best ROM is probably team nocturnal's shooter, but everyone likes different stuff.
I sure my backup root to back up and restore apps
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I use my backup root I meant lol
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I think that one ROM that's 2.3.7 but they managed to get the ics launcher on it. My ***** runs it, so I forgot the name. Sorry I use a ns4g
Edit: it's by chadthegreat.
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Your *****?? nice.... <sarcasm>
Yes my *****. Because I think I could do better.
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Your *****?? nice.... <sarcasm>
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Im on Mikg v3.0 w. Less freedom kernel and its extremely stable smooth and complete im not sure if it has 4g (im on metro so only got 3g) i do reflash like crazy but this ROM has me pretty satisfied i havent flashed in a while u might lose a thing or two but nothing u cant live w. Out.
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If u want AOSP evo-deck-(gingerbread 2.3.7) only takes up 13mb of internal on initial boot 19mb after flashing gapps and its really stable too u might have to fix gps but thats the only issue i ran into (which is just a flashable zip if you do have to) and you can move the majority of apps to sd like CM it has a allow move to external option.
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