Why root mytouch slide??
I understand why you would want to root a G1, which i had and rooted for many different reasons.
but what can you do with mytouch slide?
Tether? that's it.. I mean, there is no point in apps2sd since froyo is coming.
So maybe if anyone gives me a good reason/enlightens me, i will root mytouch slide.
If you can't think of a reason, then you correct, you don't need root.
xologist said:
Why root mytouch slide??
I understand why you would want to root a G1, which i had and rooted for many different reasons.
but what can you do with mytouch slide?
Tether? that's it.. I mean, there is no point in apps2sd since froyo is coming.
So maybe if anyone gives me a good reason/enlightens me, i will root mytouch slide.
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I agree with Falken, if you don't know well why bother..
When cm 6 is ready, that its the only reason you will need
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Suntar said:
I agree with Falken, if you don't know well why bother..
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Why do alot of ppl here seem to have an attitude, like "if you dont know, I'm not gonna help you"?, I've been on internet forums forever and this place seems to be worse in that regard, maybe just in my travels it seems that way, but maybe theres reasons he'd like to use his phone for that he didnt even think of that root would enable..
but root does seem kinda useless unless you plan on changing roms and having complete control of your phone.
IMO there isn't really many reasons. All Froyo roms i've flashed arent worth changing from stock just YET. I just rooted it so I can say I rooted it tbh xD.
IF SetCPU, Apps2sd, and screenshot are that important to you, I guess theres a reason :-/
Yeah, A2SD and screenshots are the only real reasons for me. Otherwise, I just like to tinker, and trying new roms is fun.
FWIW, I hadn't found a Froyo rom that I liked until TeamFenix's latest release. It has just about everything working.
EDIT: Oh, and regarding people just saying "if you don't know, you don't need it"... I think it's actually kind of a protective thing. Unless you have a reason to root, you're really just taking a risk with your phone that you don't need to.
Rooting your phone gives you the ability to customize your phone the way you want it.
A2sd is a good thing to have if you like to keep alot of apps and wireless teather is cool too especialy if you dont have internet for your pc or what not. But neither of those 2 reasons was why I rooted.
Unfortunatly we dont have full root for the slide yet so some of the apps that are made for rooted phones are NOT fully functional. Such as setCPU (we dont have the ability to make system changes unless in recovery). That does make it a little harder to do some customization.
IMHO....if you are interested in learning about android and making your phone look and act like you want it to, then root it and get to reading the forums to help get some ideas on how to make it your own.
If your not into learning and are the type of person that would make useless posts in the forum asking questions that can be figured out easily from reading, then please DO NOT ROOT YOUR PHONE. There are allready plenty of those types of people in the forums.
Oh and BTW.....you can always root it and if you dont like it then just unroot it and put it back to stock or leave it rooted but run a stock rom.
Check out my Avatar and that will give you a idea of some small changes that can be made ( custom slider, notification bar icons, font ) and those are just a few of the changes I have made.
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Rooting your phone gives you the ability to customize your phone the way you want it.
A2sd is a good thing to have if you like to keep alot of apps and wireless teather is cool too especialy if you dont have internet for your pc or what not. But neither of those 2 reasons was why I rooted.
Unfortunatly we dont have full root for the slide yet so some of the apps that are made for rooted phones are NOT fully functional. Such as setCPU (we dont have the ability to make system changes unless in recovery). That does make it a little harder to do some customization.
IMHO....if you are interested in learning about android and making your phone look and act like you want it to, then root it and get to reading the forums to help get some ideas on how to make it your own.
If your not into learning and are the type of person that would make useless posts in the forum asking questions that can be figured out easily from reading, then please DO NOT ROOT YOUR PHONE. There are allready plenty of those types of people in the forums.
Oh and BTW.....you can always root it and if you dont like it then just unroot it and put it back to stock or leave it rooted but run a stock rom.
Check out my Avatar and that will give you a idea of some small changes that can be made ( custom slider, notification bar icons, font ) and those are just a few of the changes I have made.
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Technically, you have full root, just not fully unlocked nand
-jd
xologist said:
Why root mytouch slide??
I understand why you would want to root a G1, which i had and rooted for many different reasons.
but what can you do with mytouch slide?
Tether? that's it.. I mean, there is no point in apps2sd since froyo is coming.
So maybe if anyone gives me a good reason/enlightens me, i will root mytouch slide.
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For now, its going to be for small tweaks.
I use it for things like Cachemate and SetCPU, as well as having a Froyo rom, the added security features are a welcome addition for me.
There isnt a huge "everyone must have root because of X" reason yet, mainly due to the limited root abilities we have currently due to the nand situation. Eventually you will find it more of a "must have" thing, as overclocked kernels and the rest make it into the MTS ecosystem, but for now Id have to agree with everyone else, if you cannot think of a reason why you would need to root, then there is no point in rooting. Most everyone who is rooting currently is doing so for very specific reasons.
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Technically, you have full root, just not fully unlocked nand
-jd
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Technically???? Dont talk to me about technically. Because technically someone that can work the android kitchen is not a dev!!! Stop trying to up your post count on a account you just opened a month ago. Your post had absolutly nothing to do with the OP question therefore it is as useless as your other 800 posts.
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IMO there isn't really many reasons. All Froyo roms i've flashed arent worth changing from stock just YET. I just rooted it so I can say I rooted it tbh xD.
IF SetCPU, Apps2sd, and screenshot are that important to you, I guess theres a reason :-/
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I'm loving the CM6 Kanged rom, I've only used it a day, but I'd say its better than the stock rom...still too early to really tell though...
I rooted mine for the opportunities that lie ahead. Right now there is nothing I am wild about. Maybe when froyo or something else does I will be ready. I am running out of memory tho.
once your rooted you can start to play around, i came from the cliq where i made roms,themes etc... and i started already just get used to the layout of everything and how it works and by the time u no it ull be posting stuff
I don't know why so many of you are saying "if you don't know what root is don't root" or similar phrases.. if you would have read my 1st post, you know I rooted my G1.. -_-
I mean, I would download it for apps2sd, but froyo is coming with move to sd..
CM tether is pretty good too..
I guess I will browse around and think wether to root it or not.. thank u for all replies anyways
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Why do alot of ppl here seem to have an attitude, like "if you dont know, I'm not gonna help you"?, I've been on internet forums forever and this place seems to be worse in that regard, maybe just in my travels it seems that way, but maybe theres reasons he'd like to use his phone for that he didnt even think of that root would enable..
but root does seem kinda useless unless you plan on changing roms and having complete control of your phone.
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I've found many of the people on these forums to be quite helpful, while there is a small miniority who enjoy being elitist jerks. "Oh, my time is too valueable to help out a noob (although I have plenty of time to make snarky replies to their posts!)"... A-holes...
Anyway, the reason I chose to root, aside from CM6, is the ability to Over/Under-clock the device. I am a tweaker at heart, and while it may not make the most practical sense to ramp up the speed... Ima do it anyway
if you are a tweaker then you can root, if you don't tether and are afraid of breaking the phone then don't root. i have always said to anyone who asked me that if you can't think of 3 good reasons to root your phone then you don't really need to. i rooted my G1 and my slide, but not the mytouch and all my phones are just fine the way they are. since i cannot seem to root the mytouch(goldacard wont work) i kept it stock and handed it off to my girl who doesn't need that stuff. personally i have to have root because i have to tether my phone and CM tether was absolutely the shiz on the g1, never had any issues with drivers or anything not working, also i have hacked every winmo phone i ever had so it's kinda a habit to hack my phones right out of the box to unlock the true potential, yeah right now we can't write to the NAND but one day we will be able to and i'm waiting for that
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I just rooted it so I can say I rooted it tbh xD.
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Same here. It's the geek in me wanting to have a bragging right.
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this is a very touchy topic so i wanna take a different approach,,,lets say that devs are working hard on a root for 2.2 stock for all of us that are stuck ....why not let this thread be the new discussion for what is happening with root and why it is not happening yet ..like what devs are running into as far as problems go and what not...i am not a dev but i have been roming since the droid and hero an moment have come out ...why dont we help the devs as much as possible and all work together to achieve this common goal and not fight about it all day ...cause in the end we all just want root and everyone will shut up and start enjoying what their evo is really capable of ...thank you devs for all the hard work and such ..lets get this thing cracked asap...
Ps ...please would a dev who is working on this step up and give a status of what exactly is happening and if they need help...
There was no need to create a new thread for this...though I could understand tour frustration if I was in your shoes...
Sorry sir... you have wait like everyone else whoa stuck on the latest OTA.
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Yes! I would love to have a real time transcript of all the devs' thoughts.
That would be fantastic.
Somehow I doubt that they would be jumping in here to update us, civilians, about their progress
Not to be the bad apple, but speaking realistically. When the Evo had 2.1, the Dev made comments all the time about that process and so on, and what to look for. This is different. No one is commenting at all. In fact, they are probable reading all these threads, looking at everyone's comment, calling each other and laughing. Why would they risk root, to help us?.. I'm just living and accepting the fact to live with the Official 2.2. Bottom line is, if they, the developers, were working on a exploit. What harm would it do to let the public know.. I'm not mad at the Dev. For 1, they're not getting paid an hourly rate to do this for the majority of people who will just download there hack without donating.. 2, they are already rooted. IT would be a different story if all the dev weren't rooted, and wanted total control over their phone. Then this would push them to find a way... And i mean thats just the way the world works. So you can't knock them for not finding a way... It is what it is... Just realisticly speaking
this process is killing me.....i miss hacking my nexus one, this evo 2.2 is a iphone that i cant fix up and customize...this sucks!!
I think the developers are busy on their ROMs. This seems to be more for the hackers. My question is: who are the hackers that have broken the ROMs in the past?
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I think the developers are busy on their ROMs. This seems to be more for the hackers. My question is: who are the hackers that have broken the ROMs in the past?
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Think about it. If you were a dev with a rooted EVO, would you unroot and install 2.2 OTA and lose root, just so you could see if you could crack the 2.2 OTA?
God bless one of them if that's what they decided to do, but I wouldn't do that if I was in their shoes.
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Think about it. If you were a dev with a rooted EVO, would you unroot and install 2.2 OTA and lose root, just so you could see if you could crack the 2.2 OTA?
God bless one of them if that's what they decided to do, but I wouldn't do that if I was in their shoes.
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No. And like I stated in my first message, the developers are busy writing ROMs.
you dont need to unroot your phone to start trying to crack 2.2, unless im mistaken you can run the 2.2 image the sdk emulator and work on it that way. its how those who are writing roms probably test out their changes.
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you dont need to unroot your phone to start trying to crack 2.2, unless im mistaken you can run the 2.2 image the sdk emulator and work on it that way. its how those who are writing roms probably test out their changes.
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That may be true, but at some point the only way to be sure that the crack works is to test it on an EVO that has 2.2 either as purchased, or OTA updated. My point is that after anyone has put a ton of time and effort into getting something working just the way they want it to, there isn't much incentive to go and screw it up just to make someone else happy.
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That may be true, but at some point the only way to be sure that the crack works is to test it on an EVO that has 2.2 either as purchased, or OTA updated. My point is that after anyone has put a ton of time and effort into getting something working just the way they want it to, there isn't much incentive to go and screw it up just to make someone else happy.
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maybe you didnt get that you can have an image of the 2.2 ota.
and as a developer/hacker (i dont do phones so i cant comment on status here) the incentive is the fact you did it. trust, thats a very good feeling.
i understand its easy for everyone whos rooted to say, be patient, but thats all that can be currently offered.
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maybe you didnt get that you can have an image of the 2.2 ota.
and as a developer/hacker (i dont do phones so i cant comment on status here) the incentive is the fact you did it. trust, thats a very good feeling.
i understand its easy for everyone whos rooted to say, be patient, but thats all that can be currently offered.
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My reading comprehension is adequate, thank you. My expectations are reasonable as well.
Rooting is a luxury not something that has to be offered up to the public. Up until recently it wasnt even considered completly legal. So for everyone here including myself for that matter that disregarded the warnings and took the update(also for the people who got their phones with 2.2 stock, thats just the way it goes.) Wait patiently, the devs dont owe you periodic updates on what they are doing with their free time. And enjoy your android phones, and if you wanna customize your phone, there are ways from the market you could do so with widgets and replacement launchers that can make your phone look original without rooting.
Agreed! Well said.
I've read and used a great deal of the information I've found in these forums, and definitely appreciate and admire all the work that is being done. But still being somewhat new to this, I'm a bit confused about all the ROM's available and what makes one better than others.
I've rooted my EVO to be able to run android wireless tether and Titanium Backup, and hopefully other things down the road (installed unRevoked3 and then 'Forever'..which worked flawlessly). But I held off on the latest OTA after reading that it cannot yet be rooted, and then I decided to look at the variety of ROM's out there just in case I might see something amazing. What I just don't get yet is what the most popular ROM's provide that are better than the 'standard' EVO (2.1-update1..build 1.47.651.1)?
(with due respect, I also wonder why a ROM would even be released if it kills 4G, the radio, battery life, drops the camera to only 3mp, etc..).
Beyond all this, I'm a bit confused about why HTC 'Sense' seems to be something that gets bashed a lot. Is it a bad thing for some reason..the phone is a beauty imho. This or that ROM says it does or does not have 'Sense' in a way that makes me wonder what's wrong with it as far as developers or the community is concerned?
Thanks. Any thoughts or answers will be much appreciated.
-JTT
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I've read and used a great deal of the information I've found in these forums, and definitely appreciate and admire all the work that is being done. But still being somewhat new to this, I'm a bit confused about all the ROM's available and what makes one better than others.
I've rooted my EVO to be able to run android wireless tether and Titanium Backup, and hopefully other things down the road (installed unRevoked3 and then 'Forever'..which worked flawlessly). But I held off on the latest OTA after reading that it cannot yet be rooted, and then I decided to look at the variety of ROM's out there just in case I might see something amazing. What I just don't get yet is what the most popular ROM's provide that are better than the 'standard' EVO (2.1-update1..build 1.47.651.1)?
(with due respect, I also wonder why a ROM would even be released if it kills 4G, the radio, battery life, drops the camera to only 3mp, etc..).
Beyond all this, I'm a bit confused about why HTC 'Sense' seems to be something that gets bashed a lot. Is it a bad thing for some reason..the phone is a beauty imho. This or that ROM says it does or does not have 'Sense' in a way that makes me wonder what's wrong with it as far as developers or the community is concerned?
Thanks. Any thoughts or answers will be much appreciated.
-JTT
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Hi, for starters as long as you used unrevoked forever you can apply any OTA update and be able to continue flashing ROMs. This prevents the phone from locking out unsigned ROMs, so flash away. In regards to the many similar looking ROMs, most of the changes are under the hood and provide many improvements such as battery life. Also, many ROMs remove certain apps and services which are considered bloat and of not much use. Visually similar, but functionally varied. Sense, although providing some eye candy and improvements over AOSP, is heavy and requires a lot of system resources. Also, like me, many prefer having natural android over a heavily modified look. Hopes this helps
jttraverse said:
I've read and used a great deal of the information I've found in these forums, and definitely appreciate and admire all the work that is being done. But still being somewhat new to this, I'm a bit confused about all the ROM's available and what makes one better than others.
I've rooted my EVO to be able to run android wireless tether and Titanium Backup, and hopefully other things down the road (installed unRevoked3 and then 'Forever'..which worked flawlessly). But I held off on the latest OTA after reading that it cannot yet be rooted, and then I decided to look at the variety of ROM's out there just in case I might see something amazing. What I just don't get yet is what the most popular ROM's provide that are better than the 'standard' EVO (2.1-update1..build 1.47.651.1)?
(with due respect, I also wonder why a ROM would even be released if it kills 4G, the radio, battery life, drops the camera to only 3mp, etc..).
Beyond all this, I'm a bit confused about why HTC 'Sense' seems to be something that gets bashed a lot. Is it a bad thing for some reason..the phone is a beauty imho. This or that ROM says it does or does not have 'Sense' in a way that makes me wonder what's wrong with it as far as developers or the community is concerned?
Thanks. Any thoughts or answers will be much appreciated.
-JTT
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Suggestion, if you have plans for flashing rom (and you will once you understand the advantages) make sure you are fully nand unlocked, also check to see if the rom you want does better with clockwork mod recovery or ra recovery. I love htc sense, but it kills the ability to use certain bluetooth devices like the wii classic controllers for emulators. I'm with you, I'm in atlanta where 4g is strong, I take pictures and hd videos all the time so I stay away from"experimental" roms. So far I haven't seen a rom with "sense" unbroken 4g/cam/camcorder. A lot of people trade stability for speed/power.
One thing I've been doing lately is kind of putting together my setup a la carte through mod releases. Keep asking questions here as well as in the threads of potential roms and a developer might implement what you're looking for.
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If you want a list of the most popular ROMs and what features work for them check my sig, it gives also performance and battery tests for them. It also says if it has sense or not.
Thanks...so far so good.
Thanks for the replies, and I actually feel better that my take on things is close to the mark. I love that there are people out there hacking away to modify software to suit a variety of needs...if I had a million bucks I'd give it to all you people. This is what I think makes the end user/owner able to drive some of what the market provides.
I love this phone and so far have been 100% happy with it (ha..especially now that I have root and can install what I want to suit my own ends! Thanks again people
I'm still a bit concerned about what I've read that even if you have root now, the latest OTA can -not- be rooted yet, i.e. don't update with the Froyo 2.2 OTA or you loose it all. Is this correct? I did see the response that once I have unRevoked-Forever on my phone that I can update to any OTA...but I seem to think that may not be accurate.
Thanks,
JTT
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Thanks for the replies, and I actually feel better that my take on things is close to the mark. I love that there are people out there hacking away to modify software to suit a variety of needs...if I had a million bucks I'd give it to all you people. This is what I think makes the end user/owner able to drive some of what the market provides.
I love this phone and so far have been 100% happy with it (ha..especially now that I have root and can install what I want to suit my own ends! Thanks again people
I'm still a bit concerned about what I've read that even if you have root now, the latest OTA can -not- be rooted yet, i.e. don't update with the Froyo 2.2 OTA or you loose it all. Is this correct? I did see the response that once I have unRevoked-Forever on my phone that I can update to any OTA...but I seem to think that may not be accurate.
Thanks,
JTT
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i know NOTHING about unrevoked anything. however if youre rooted be happy. you can go and flash a 2.2 rom. they are the same as the OTA (if they're different im sure the differences are marginal) and you keep root. hurrah!
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Thanks for the replies, and I actually feel better that my take on things is close to the mark. I love that there are people out there hacking away to modify software to suit a variety of needs...if I had a million bucks I'd give it to all you people. This is what I think makes the end user/owner able to drive some of what the market provides.
I love this phone and so far have been 100% happy with it (ha..especially now that I have root and can install what I want to suit my own ends! Thanks again people
I'm still a bit concerned about what I've read that even if you have root now, the latest OTA can -not- be rooted yet, i.e. don't update with the Froyo 2.2 OTA or you loose it all. Is this correct? I did see the response that once I have unRevoked-Forever on my phone that I can update to any OTA...but I seem to think that may not be accurate.
Thanks,
JTT
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Yea, I recommend what nenn said. The 2.2 roms have what the ota updates have in it and you don't loose root.
Hi, let me start by apologizing for my ignorance but ive always been in love with phones for i dont know how long and i finally have a good one specifically the evo and even though i love phones i no little about the software but i want to learn. can anyone point to the start i want to learn rooting flashing ROMs and kernels the works im not so much interested in developing but that might change once im more knowledgeable in the whole process im just some high school kid so my tech knowledge right now is pretty much zero please help i no everyone here started somewhere so can u tell me where i just want to make my phone as good as possible
Let me ask you this: What software version is on your phone right now? 2.1 or 2.2?
im running 2.2 on my evo
Take a gander at the development forum. There is a guide that was posted just a couple of days ago about rooting 2.2. Great timing for you since this method was only just discovered.
A piece of advice...after you obtain root access to your phone, be cautious about taking anymore updates from the carrier as these updates often break your root access. Every update is usually followed by a rooted version here in the forums sometimes on the same day or before.
Welcome!
Oh..and be sure to do a search in the forums for any issues you may have before posting a question to the forums. Chances are it has already been addressed...unless you enjoy getting flamed.
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Be sure to check out the evo wiki too. It has many guides and tutorials to get you started in the right direction.
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sombdy said:
A piece of advice...after you obtain root access to your phone, be cautious about taking anymore updates from the carrier as these updates often break your root access. Every update is usually followed by a rooted version here in the forums sometimes on the same day or before.
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That's what Unrevoked Forever is for, I thought? But still, just because you put on a Kevlar vest doesn't mean you should go around taking shots to the chest. Hey, that rhymes! Copyright.
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That's what Unrevoked Forever is for, I thought? But still, just because you put on a Kevlar vest doesn't mean you should go around taking shots to the chest. Hey, that rhymes! Copyright.
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LOL! Except we're Android people, so in the spirit of openness, I demand that you make that quote 100% free and available. (kinda like how people bash the unrevoked team about not giving away their methods...)
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That's what Unrevoked Forever is for, I thought? But still, just because you put on a Kevlar vest doesn't mean you should go around taking shots to the chest. Hey, that rhymes! Copyright.
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True, but wouldn't be plausible for an OTA to be released that turned the security permissions back on and plugged the exploits for rooting? That's why I just say be cautious. UF probably will work "forever" but it's no reason to be careless. Sticking with the rooted ROMs is just a safer bet.
So if you don't want to loose root, give those Sprint OTAs the boot.
Yeah...I'm not copyrighting that. It sucks! lol!
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thanks for all ur help i love this site so full of smart helpful people
some background. My wife and I both bought Slides. Shortly after getting them she had someone she works with root hers. Everything worked great, I liked the way it ran and the lack of bloat ware so I had him root mine. Well after rooting mine I noticed that swype doesnt work anymore and flash(Website Flash) doesnt work anymore either. Now he doesn't want to help or return our messages and I am lost as to what to do.
I am not sure much about how he rooted it or what he did. I do know I get a cynogen screen when i turn on the phone and the rom is up to date.
Do you know what rom he installed?
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he doesn't want to help or return our messages and I am lost as to what to do.
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This is exactly the reason that you shouldn't have someone root your phone unless you know what you're doing to do it yourself.
Best thing for you to do is to flash the 1.35.531 OTA update, which will remove root from your device and return you to the latest stock mytouch slide firmware. But honestly if you don't know anything about rooting or its benefits, OR ITS RISKS, then you shouldn't have anyone do it for you cus it makes you and your device a liability to this community. Everytime you have the slightest problem you're gonna be back here at the forum looking for someone to hold your hand cus you have no clue what you're messing with.
So I recommend you unroot your device until such time when you are able to fully understand the risks and capabilities of root. Go back to stock, then spend a lot of time here learning about root and what you might be able to use it for. For starters, ROOT IS NOT INTENDED FOR END USERS. If it was, EVERY phone would already be rooted when you get it. But its not. Its intended for ADVANCED users as a sort of "service entrance" to your device. This allows tech support guys (and gals) to do things that you shouldn't HAVE to worry about as an END USER; or, (my definition) a person, owning and using a device, with MINIMAL knowledge of the inner workings of said device. Its just like with windows....ANY IDIOT can get on windows and check their email. It requires almost NO knowledge to operate. Just the same, these phones are made so that any idiot can operate them with a bit of practice, but the critical parts of the system, where an IDIOT could really wreak some havoc, is(are) sealed off to most end users, to make sure they don't mess **** up. ROOT unseals all that so that you CAN really mess stuff up. And that's what will happen if you mess with stuff without a clue what you're doing.
Its in YOUR best interest to go back to stock. For now, anyway. Don't just accept your current level of know-how...LEARN HOW. When I got my G1 when they first came out, I knew NOTHING about programming or any kind of code, or any of that. But I have spent A LOT of time learning it all, and I'm still learning stuff all the time, and now I create my own themes, I patch code to make things work the way I want it to work, I fix all my own screw-ups without asking for help, and I'm damn proud of it. And you will be too, when you root your device all by yourself and don't NEED some non-replying jerkoff to do it for you...please take my advice, you'll be glad you did. Play it safe until you know what's safe and what isn't.
-BMFC
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bmfc187 said:
This is exactly the reason that you shouldn't have someone root your phone unless you know what you're doing to do it yourself.
Best thing for you to do is to flash the 1.35.531 OTA update, which will remove root from your device and return you to the latest stock mytouch slide firmware. But honestly if you don't know anything about rooting or its benefits, OR ITS RISKS, then you shouldn't have anyone do it for you cus it makes you and your device a liability to this community. Everytime you have the slightest problem you're gonna be back here at the forum looking for someone to hold your hand cus you have no clue what you're messing with.
So I recommend you unroot your device until such time when you are able to fully understand the risks and capabilities of root. Go back to stock, then spend a lot of time here learning about root and what you might be able to use it for. For starters, ROOT IS NOT INTENDED FOR END USERS. If it was, EVERY phone would already be rooted when you get it. But its not. Its intended for ADVANCED users as a sort of "service entrance" to your device. This allows tech support guys (and gals) to do things that you shouldn't HAVE to worry about as an END USER; or, (my definition) a person, owning and using a device, with MINIMAL knowledge of the inner workings of said device. Its just like with windows....ANY IDIOT can get on windows and check their email. It requires almost NO knowledge to operate. Just the same, these phones are made so that any idiot can operate them with a bit of practice, but the critical parts of the system, where an IDIOT could really wreak some havoc, is(are) sealed off to most end users, to make sure they don't mess **** up. ROOT unseals all that so that you CAN really mess stuff up. And that's what will happen if you mess with stuff without a clue what you're doing.
Its in YOUR best interest to go back to stock. For now, anyway. Don't just accept your current level of know-how...LEARN HOW. When I got my G1 when they first came out, I knew NOTHING about programming or any kind of code, or any of that. But I have spent A LOT of time learning it all, and I'm still learning stuff all the time, and now I create my own themes, I patch code to make things work the way I want it to work, I fix all my own screw-ups without asking for help, and I'm damn proud of it. And you will be too, when you root your device all by yourself and don't NEED some non-replying jerkoff to do it for you...please take my advice, you'll be glad you did. Play it safe until you know what's safe and what isn't.
-BMFC
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This doesn't help in anyway!!
I am not looking for someone to hold my hand. I am wanting to learn how to fix what someone screwed up. I am pretty sure during all the time you spent learning all the things you know with root you asked a question or two.
Back to the topic at hand. Is this something that can be fixed? Like I said I am not 100% sure what rom I have, pretty sure it is cynogen though.
The reason I want it rooted is because the stock slide sucks, I don't like all the crap that came preloaded. I like how the phone is rooted, I just don't like the things that are not working.
I'm pretty sure you'll learn the how's afterwards since you're going to be reading and absorbing info from this forum
But for now... fixing the issues at hand.
The problem on adobe flash is actually something not exactly fixable... the flash 10 is just not for our device (correct me if I'm wrong x_x) and so the current cm6 is just unable to use flash... =/
As for swype... I actually asked the same question when I flashed cm6 rom. The thread is in the Q&A subforum titled [Q]Swype on CM6? or something like that. There will be links to dl swype. Have fun =)
Hope this helps lol.
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Well the problems you describe are bugs with the rom you are using and they will be the same for MOST roms since they're all based off cyanogens work. You SAY you wanna learn how to fix what someone screwed up but nobody screwed anything up, you just don't know what you're doing. If you want to fix problems that are specific to a certain rom, you need to look in your "about phone" section in settings and figure out what rom you are running.
THEN, go to the thread of the rom you are running. DON'T POST a question about swype or flash or keyboard lights there...the questions have already been asked and if there is a fix for your issue it will already be posted there somewhere.
And for your information, I used to ask questions all the time, that's PART of how ppl learn...but I NEVER in my time with android, have let anyone DO SOMETHING FOR ME. And that's all you seem to want, somone to root your phone for you, someone to tell you the answer so you don't have to waste time reading or searching for the answer...you don't even know what rom you're on, am I supposed to tell you THAT, too? You've displayed no desire to help yourself and the only ppl that get help around here are ppl that are willing to help themselves.
Its NO ONE'S job to man these fora to help ppl...anyone that helps anyone do anything here, they do it out of either the kindness of their own heart, or sheer boredom. Either way no one is OBLIGATED to help you, especially when the fixes for the bugs you describe have already been posted, and instead of searching for the answers you start a new thread, asking an old question, in the WRONG SECTION. There is a section marked Q&A which is SPECIFICALLY for asking and answering questions.
And if you hadn't noticed, I'm about the only person even paying any attention to your plight so don't be too quick to shun my advice. I will help you learn how to do things, ill help you figure things out if you get stuck, but I'm not gonna give you the answers or do it for you.
Go find out what rom you're running. Then look up the rom and search the thread for the bugs you're experiencing. If there are fixes for the bugs they'll be there.
-BMFC
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This doesn't help in anyway!!
I am not looking for someone to hold my hand. I am wanting to learn how to fix what someone screwed up. I am pretty sure during all the time you spent learning all the things you know with root you asked a question or two.
Back to the topic at hand. Is this something that can be fixed? Like I said I am not 100% sure what rom I have, pretty sure it is cynogen though.
The reason I want it rooted is because the stock slide sucks, I don't like all the crap that came preloaded. I like how the phone is rooted, I just don't like the things that are not working.
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If you didn't want anyone to hold you hand. why post asking for help? BMFC's post is actually what you should do. Also your phone isn't just rooted, its running a custom software. and as with any custom software its should be obvious that stuff you had from stock just isnt going to be there. (flash lite and stock swype.) Also THIS POST IS IN THE WRONG SECTION. IF YOU HAD READ THE STICKIES which I know for a fact that you didn't you might have learned a thing or two. seriously. is it that hard to read the stickies? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701241
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=702973
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704567
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747388
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704865
Your problem isn't really a problem at all. you are running cyan0gen mod 6. That being said since it is a 3rd party android build due to copyright laws, cyan0gen cant add a lot of the things you liked from your stock build. Like BMFC said rooting isn't for end users, you can really mess stuff up when you have root access and not know anything, My first android phone is the mytouch 3G Slide so I don't know as much as others but I do have a Linux background so as to knowing about root I am aware that it is something for more advanced users, and everything I learned I read in the stickies and through trial and error. Asking for help is fine no wrong doing in that but you have to understand that unless you have some idea as to what you are doing you shouldn't dive into rooting your phone. I didn't root my phone until after the first few ROMs were out. I read up on rooting and what benefits it could give me, also in my reading you come to understand what happens when you flash a custom ROM, and when I did it wasn't easy(it was a pain) but it got done. and yes I ran into some problems. but there was already answers for them in the stickies. My advice to you is the same as BMFC's advice and go to Chiefz' Stock OTA 1.35 ROM and you will back at stock with flash lite and you beloved swype, because apart from that you can only get swype on CM6 and thats if you download it through a third party, stay on that ROM until you learn a little more about how android works, getting and setting up the sdk, and getting comfortable enough with adb and what needs to be done with root, go ahead and root it YOURSELF. I wont link you to swype,learn to use the search button, and learn to lurk this forum.
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Well the problems you describe are bugs with the rom you are using and they will be the same for MOST roms since they're all based off cyanogens work. You SAY you wanna learn how to fix what someone screwed up but nobody screwed anything up, you just don't know what you're doing. If you want to fix problems that are specific to a certain rom, you need to look in your "about phone" section in settings and figure out what rom you are running.
THEN, go to the thread of the rom you are running. DON'T POST a question about swype or flash or keyboard lights there...the questions have already been asked and if there is a fix for your issue it will already be posted there somewhere.
And for your information, I used to ask questions all the time, that's PART of how ppl learn...but I NEVER in my time with android, have let anyone DO SOMETHING FOR ME. And that's all you seem to want, somone to root your phone for you, someone to tell you the answer so you don't have to waste time reading or searching for the answer...you don't even know what rom you're on, am I supposed to tell you THAT, too? You've displayed no desire to help yourself and the only ppl that get help around here are ppl that are willing to help themselves.
Its NO ONE'S job to man these fora to help ppl...anyone that helps anyone do anything here, they do it out of either the kindness of their own heart, or sheer boredom. Either way no one is OBLIGATED to help you, especially when the fixes for the bugs you describe have already been posted, and instead of searching for the answers you start a new thread, asking an old question, in the WRONG SECTION. There is a section marked Q&A which is SPECIFICALLY for asking and answering questions.
And if you hadn't noticed, I'm about the only person even paying any attention to your plight so don't be too quick to shun my advice. I will help you learn how to do things, ill help you figure things out if you get stuck, but I'm not gonna give you the answers or do it for you.
Go find out what rom you're running. Then look up the rom and search the thread for the bugs you're experiencing. If there are fixes for the bugs they'll be there.
-BMFC
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lol your post is similar to mine only i didn't see it befor eI posted mine or I would have held back on my post lol.
Bahaaaaa Dang BMFC187 you sounded like u have been wanting to say that to someone. That made me LOL.
As far as the OP...you need to read the thread that says "slide Rom bible" and start there. Sounds to me like u need to flash an updated ROM, plus there are lots of links in there that are helpful.
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Wow. I didn't realize a simple question would ruffle so many feathers.
The reason I thought something was wrong is because my wife and I have the same phone, we got them at the same time, they were both rooted at the same time with the same rom. Some of the features that work on her phone don't work on mine. In my mind, something wasn't right.
Thank you to those who took the time to be courteous and helpful by pointing me in a direction to start looking.
there is no way, unless your wife is running a stock espresso based ROM that she would flash(lite) running in her browser. swype yes. flash lite no. you still haven't read the stickies have you?
Just for the hell of it. What's wrong with a new guy who realizes he has an issue that he would like resolved. Yes he did several things the wrong way.
1. Saw eye candy and wanted it (valuable lesson being eye candy is not always what you want.
2. Not educating yourself and Do it your damn self.
3. Coming to these forum asking for help without being prepared to be flamed (most xda seniors are hot headed)
4. If you can't do it yourself then you prob shouldn't have root
? Oops there be another ? Mark now I go to the q&a corner.
Ahhh sleep time
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some background. My wife and I both bought Slides. Shortly after getting them she had someone she works with root hers. Everything worked great, I liked the way it ran and the lack of bloat ware so I had him root mine. Well after rooting mine I noticed that swype doesnt work anymore and flash(Website Flash) doesnt work anymore either. Now he doesn't want to help or return our messages and I am lost as to what to do.
I am not sure much about how he rooted it or what he did. I do know I get a cynogen screen when i turn on the phone and the rom is up to date.
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Assuming you can figure out what to do, there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7534187#post7534187 which is a ROM that's based off the stock variety. Can't speak for bloat (didn't like stock rom) but it may work for you.
As for flashing, I am not 100% sure what state your recovery is so no idea if you can realistically flash a ROM, but it's worth a shot.
Also, on the Android Market, there's the ROM Manager, which may help (or hinder) the situation...
Hello everyone! I'm pretty new with android phones. Until about 4 months ago, I still had a Motorola Razor. I went and bought the LG Optimus M (by Metro PCS) in December, fell in love with androids, and upgraded to the Evo 4G. I love this phone so much!!!
I'm decent with electronics, but I won't mess with my phone too much because it's unknown territory. I rooted my Optimus only to delete bloatware. I won't root my Evo only because I really don't need to (not much bloatware , plus, there's more internal space on this phone). I already can tether and I like Sense, so I personally don't see the need for it (for me, not saying you shouldn't root; again, I'm new to this stuff).
Landing the plane:
What are some fun and interesting things I can do with this phone? What are some cool apps?
BTW, a little off topic, I have the app TV Shows HD. Why did that get taken off of the market?
Thanks guys for dealing with this newbie!
Well unless you root your phone there really isn't much else you can do with it besides download apps and play games. The best apps require root though, so even that has its limitations. The Evo is quite hard to brick, so it would be worth it to root. You can have Sense and have it be even faster with Mikfroyo or some of the other custom roms out there.
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Well unless you root your phone there really isn't much else you can do with it besides download apps and play games. The best apps require root though, so even that has its limitations. The Evo is quite hard to brick, so it would be worth it to root. You can have Sense and have it be even faster with Mikfroyo or some of the other custom roms out there.
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Hmm, okay. Well, can you do me a favor? Can you please (if and when you have time) to send me a link to wherever it is I have to go to root my phone along with information about the root, how to root and all of that fun stuff?
Again, I don't know much. I love this phone and where I live I have 4G nearly everywhere I go. I would love to make this phone even cooler!
Here is a link to a sticky in the development section which has links to pretty much everything you need to root your phone. Just read up on it and try to get as much information as possible. After you root it you can load custom roms, kernels and themes to your phone as well as back it up, restore it from a backup and many more goodies. I suggest reading all over this Evo forum here at XDA about rooting. Everything you need to know and everything you need to do it are right here. Read about all the different Roms and what they have and don't have and decide which will be best for you. Get started here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245
If 4G is important to you make sure that 4G is working in the Rom before flashing. It is on AOSP Roms now like CM7. You can stick with stock Sprint and still be rooted too if you really like it. Many devs have taken stock Sprint Rom and modified it, making it faster with less bloat and just plain better. My favorite Sense Rom was Mikfroyo, but I am a dedicated CM7 user now.
Thanks! I really appreciate it!
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No problem. I'm just glad to help. Good luck & happy flashing.
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in one of the subforums.. in evo ...
there is a long ass thread of recommended apps...
I agree man. If you aren't new to rooting, then definitely give it a go on the EVO. Just do your homework and research well before you start, you'll be fine.
The evo has excellent dev support, there are some really fantastic roms to choose from, beauty of rooting ... you're choice never has to be final. There are also some excellent people making excellent themes.. definitely fun to change it up every once in a while.
You can also improve performance, speed, battery life and add new features with root. You will not be disappointed.
Just be sure to at least hit the Thanks button if you use someones work, it's important for these guys to know they're appreciated.
I just rooted for the first time very recently (~2 days) and I found the following posts extremely helpful and, in combination, to provide a fully comprehensive guide on how to root, what to expect, how to avoid doing things wrong, how to backup, how to restore, how to flash ROMs and kernels and other add-ons, et cetera:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881747
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887900
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6949215#post6949215
http://htcevorooting.x10.mx/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/194918-rooting-dummies.html
Additionally, as others have stated, do read up on the EVO forums here and read up as much as you can on rooting and ROMs and kernels and such. Hope I helped.
Thanks guys! I can't believe their is a forum filed with really cool and helpful people! Thank you all!
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Idk if this is still relevant but there WERE several hw versions that required different rooting methods, be careful with that. Maybe they all have a unified rooting method now, I don't pay any attention to that stuff now that I have a custom recovery.
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Idk if this is still relevant but there WERE several hw versions that required different rooting methods, be careful with that. Maybe they all have a unified rooting method now, I don't pay any attention to that stuff now that I have a custom recovery.
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thats all been ironed out. as long as it's an up to date root method, they all work on any hardware or hboot version.
Wow! I'm on other forums for comic books and action figures (yeah, I'm a freaking nerd) and ask a lot of questions and NO ONE responds to me this clearly and this much. This was first thread as well as my first post. This forum is great! Thank you everybody! I will look to root my phone this weekend with a friend of mine who is pretty phone savvy. I will let you guys know how it goes. Again, thank you all so much!
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