I've read and used a great deal of the information I've found in these forums, and definitely appreciate and admire all the work that is being done. But still being somewhat new to this, I'm a bit confused about all the ROM's available and what makes one better than others.
I've rooted my EVO to be able to run android wireless tether and Titanium Backup, and hopefully other things down the road (installed unRevoked3 and then 'Forever'..which worked flawlessly). But I held off on the latest OTA after reading that it cannot yet be rooted, and then I decided to look at the variety of ROM's out there just in case I might see something amazing. What I just don't get yet is what the most popular ROM's provide that are better than the 'standard' EVO (2.1-update1..build 1.47.651.1)?
(with due respect, I also wonder why a ROM would even be released if it kills 4G, the radio, battery life, drops the camera to only 3mp, etc..).
Beyond all this, I'm a bit confused about why HTC 'Sense' seems to be something that gets bashed a lot. Is it a bad thing for some reason..the phone is a beauty imho. This or that ROM says it does or does not have 'Sense' in a way that makes me wonder what's wrong with it as far as developers or the community is concerned?
Thanks. Any thoughts or answers will be much appreciated.
-JTT
jttraverse said:
I've read and used a great deal of the information I've found in these forums, and definitely appreciate and admire all the work that is being done. But still being somewhat new to this, I'm a bit confused about all the ROM's available and what makes one better than others.
I've rooted my EVO to be able to run android wireless tether and Titanium Backup, and hopefully other things down the road (installed unRevoked3 and then 'Forever'..which worked flawlessly). But I held off on the latest OTA after reading that it cannot yet be rooted, and then I decided to look at the variety of ROM's out there just in case I might see something amazing. What I just don't get yet is what the most popular ROM's provide that are better than the 'standard' EVO (2.1-update1..build 1.47.651.1)?
(with due respect, I also wonder why a ROM would even be released if it kills 4G, the radio, battery life, drops the camera to only 3mp, etc..).
Beyond all this, I'm a bit confused about why HTC 'Sense' seems to be something that gets bashed a lot. Is it a bad thing for some reason..the phone is a beauty imho. This or that ROM says it does or does not have 'Sense' in a way that makes me wonder what's wrong with it as far as developers or the community is concerned?
Thanks. Any thoughts or answers will be much appreciated.
-JTT
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Hi, for starters as long as you used unrevoked forever you can apply any OTA update and be able to continue flashing ROMs. This prevents the phone from locking out unsigned ROMs, so flash away. In regards to the many similar looking ROMs, most of the changes are under the hood and provide many improvements such as battery life. Also, many ROMs remove certain apps and services which are considered bloat and of not much use. Visually similar, but functionally varied. Sense, although providing some eye candy and improvements over AOSP, is heavy and requires a lot of system resources. Also, like me, many prefer having natural android over a heavily modified look. Hopes this helps
jttraverse said:
I've read and used a great deal of the information I've found in these forums, and definitely appreciate and admire all the work that is being done. But still being somewhat new to this, I'm a bit confused about all the ROM's available and what makes one better than others.
I've rooted my EVO to be able to run android wireless tether and Titanium Backup, and hopefully other things down the road (installed unRevoked3 and then 'Forever'..which worked flawlessly). But I held off on the latest OTA after reading that it cannot yet be rooted, and then I decided to look at the variety of ROM's out there just in case I might see something amazing. What I just don't get yet is what the most popular ROM's provide that are better than the 'standard' EVO (2.1-update1..build 1.47.651.1)?
(with due respect, I also wonder why a ROM would even be released if it kills 4G, the radio, battery life, drops the camera to only 3mp, etc..).
Beyond all this, I'm a bit confused about why HTC 'Sense' seems to be something that gets bashed a lot. Is it a bad thing for some reason..the phone is a beauty imho. This or that ROM says it does or does not have 'Sense' in a way that makes me wonder what's wrong with it as far as developers or the community is concerned?
Thanks. Any thoughts or answers will be much appreciated.
-JTT
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Suggestion, if you have plans for flashing rom (and you will once you understand the advantages) make sure you are fully nand unlocked, also check to see if the rom you want does better with clockwork mod recovery or ra recovery. I love htc sense, but it kills the ability to use certain bluetooth devices like the wii classic controllers for emulators. I'm with you, I'm in atlanta where 4g is strong, I take pictures and hd videos all the time so I stay away from"experimental" roms. So far I haven't seen a rom with "sense" unbroken 4g/cam/camcorder. A lot of people trade stability for speed/power.
One thing I've been doing lately is kind of putting together my setup a la carte through mod releases. Keep asking questions here as well as in the threads of potential roms and a developer might implement what you're looking for.
Sent from my HTC EVO
If you want a list of the most popular ROMs and what features work for them check my sig, it gives also performance and battery tests for them. It also says if it has sense or not.
Thanks...so far so good.
Thanks for the replies, and I actually feel better that my take on things is close to the mark. I love that there are people out there hacking away to modify software to suit a variety of needs...if I had a million bucks I'd give it to all you people. This is what I think makes the end user/owner able to drive some of what the market provides.
I love this phone and so far have been 100% happy with it (ha..especially now that I have root and can install what I want to suit my own ends! Thanks again people
I'm still a bit concerned about what I've read that even if you have root now, the latest OTA can -not- be rooted yet, i.e. don't update with the Froyo 2.2 OTA or you loose it all. Is this correct? I did see the response that once I have unRevoked-Forever on my phone that I can update to any OTA...but I seem to think that may not be accurate.
Thanks,
JTT
jttraverse said:
Thanks for the replies, and I actually feel better that my take on things is close to the mark. I love that there are people out there hacking away to modify software to suit a variety of needs...if I had a million bucks I'd give it to all you people. This is what I think makes the end user/owner able to drive some of what the market provides.
I love this phone and so far have been 100% happy with it (ha..especially now that I have root and can install what I want to suit my own ends! Thanks again people
I'm still a bit concerned about what I've read that even if you have root now, the latest OTA can -not- be rooted yet, i.e. don't update with the Froyo 2.2 OTA or you loose it all. Is this correct? I did see the response that once I have unRevoked-Forever on my phone that I can update to any OTA...but I seem to think that may not be accurate.
Thanks,
JTT
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i know NOTHING about unrevoked anything. however if youre rooted be happy. you can go and flash a 2.2 rom. they are the same as the OTA (if they're different im sure the differences are marginal) and you keep root. hurrah!
jttraverse said:
Thanks for the replies, and I actually feel better that my take on things is close to the mark. I love that there are people out there hacking away to modify software to suit a variety of needs...if I had a million bucks I'd give it to all you people. This is what I think makes the end user/owner able to drive some of what the market provides.
I love this phone and so far have been 100% happy with it (ha..especially now that I have root and can install what I want to suit my own ends! Thanks again people
I'm still a bit concerned about what I've read that even if you have root now, the latest OTA can -not- be rooted yet, i.e. don't update with the Froyo 2.2 OTA or you loose it all. Is this correct? I did see the response that once I have unRevoked-Forever on my phone that I can update to any OTA...but I seem to think that may not be accurate.
Thanks,
JTT
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Yea, I recommend what nenn said. The 2.2 roms have what the ota updates have in it and you don't loose root.
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Hello! I've never messed around with a phone before, but I have a couple of questions I was hoping to get some help with. I currently have an HTC Touch Pro and am seriously considering upgrading to the EVO. I understand that EVO isn't going to be getting Android 2.2 until later in the year. If I root the phone, can I upgrade to whatever the Android version is out? I really like some of the 2.2 features; I've read that it has the potential to speed things up on the phone considerably and that sounds great!
Also, are there any areas where very basic things like roms and rooting are explained? I've looked over some of the rooting tutorials and feel like I can follow them, but I'd like to have some sort of understanding as to what I'm actually doing.
Thanks for the help!
Me too! I'm coming from the pre.
That's a lot to answer in one post.... but here we go!
If you root you can flash a Rom that has 2.2, but its not working 100%, close but a few more things are being worked out. I think I can confidently say that the devs are working hard and should have 2.2 done before HTC gets it to you! There are many roms that drastically improve performance which are 2.1, and they work very well.
As for your second question, that is a bit more lengthy. At the top of this forum is a post with some links in it for guides and tutorials. If you haven't read those you should do so. Use the Google cache links while the wiki is down.
Basically what you are doing when you root your phone, is you are going through a bunch of procedures to allow you the user, to obtain super user permissions over the entire system. That leads to a bunch of new thing you can do with the system: flash roms, custom recoveries, backups,tethering, custom kernels... so much I can't explain it all! Lol
Here is some info on rooting and custom roms, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245
There's a lot more in the EVO 4G Android development forum.
You can browse around in there and find ALOT more info there.
But, like was mentioned, 2.2 isn't officially available if you root your phone. YOu can flash a custom ROM of 2.2 but it's not fully functional. I believe the camera doesn't work, 4G is questionable, and I think the mms function is not working either.
Great! Thanks for all the info! I just bought the EVO yesterday and I love it. I'll have to think about rooting as I get familiar with the phone.
Thanks again!
Hey everyone,
This is my first post as I'm entirely new to these forums. For the last week I have still been setting up my HTC Evo, and have really enjoyed getting familiar with the new system.
I switched over after being an iPhone user for the last 3 years, and I am glad I made the switch when I did. I absolutely love my phone.
I have done a lot of Googling, and reading on this website, but I was hoping someone could provide some clarity.
My Evo is fully flashed and rooted, and I'm now looking for ROMs. From my understanding, a ROM is flashing like how I put a modchip in my XBOX, which lets me get cool new features, skins, etc.
My concern is I'm reading that a lot of ROMs are missing 4G, or FM radio, etc. I don't want to lose any features. There are some I wouldn't mind losing, but I am an IT Admin so I use pretty much everything.
I am excited for Froyo, and I want to make the best choice. I am a technology buff, I like testing new features. I'd like a ROM that has all the cool stuff, but is stable.
Another issue I haven't been able to solve is Manlla. I'm not getting anywhere on this issue. It seems like I can't find the correct files for my software which is as follows:
Firmware Version: 2.1-update1
Baseband Verson: 1.36.00.04.02
Kernel Version: 2.6.29-a2443432
Build #: 1.32.651.6 CL171253 release-keys
Software: 1.32.651.6
So from what It looks like, is I went from 1.47 to 1.32 when I used the full root method?
Again, my questions were:
1) Which ROM offers many features, stability, but doesn't leave capabilities out?
2) How do I get Manila installed?
I know some ROMs such as EnergyROM have them built in, are there others?
I do plan on being an active members here, and helping others as well. Please be patient while I get in the groove!
Thanks!
phew, there are so many different roms to choose from that the only suggestion I can make is to look at the dev's thread on the rom. The first post should tell you what does and does not work.
Some of the top roms I have heard of is Fresh, Damage Control, and one of the 'baked' roms (baked snack or pastries, can't remember)
You can always flash a stock rooted rom, which will ensure you retain all of the features.
The reason your build went down is because during rooting you have to flash an engineering rom, so that is what brought your version down. Any custom rom you flash will have the newest build incorporated so that is nothing to worry about.
As for manilla, I did a quick google and saw references to HTC Sense but I do not know if thats what you meant by it. If so, then Sense should be on any custom rom that is not AOSP, or a stock rooted rom. If this is not what you meant by manilla then let me know and I am sure I can find the answer for you
You could always flash a newer stock rooted ROM if you want the 1.47 update. Otherwise, there are a couple of new 2.2 ROMs being released right now, and lots of discussions about different ROMs, what they have and what they lack, and how they perform. Head down to the Development forum and you'll get more info. Lots of people gripe about threads being in the wrong forum, so discussion topics go here, questions and requests go in Q&A, and ROM info is in the Development section.
TularePC said:
Hey everyone,
This is my first post as I'm entirely new to these forums. For the last week I have still been setting up my HTC Evo, and have really enjoyed getting familiar with the new system.
I switched over after being an iPhone user for the last 3 years, and I am glad I made the switch when I did. I absolutely love my phone.
I have done a lot of Googling, and reading on this website, but I was hoping someone could provide some clarity.
My Evo is fully flashed and rooted, and I'm now looking for ROMs. From my understanding, a ROM is flashing like how I put a modchip in my XBOX, which lets me get cool new features, skins, etc.
My concern is I'm reading that a lot of ROMs are missing 4G, or FM radio, etc. I don't want to lose any features. There are some I wouldn't mind losing, but I am an IT Admin so I use pretty much everything.
I am excited for Froyo, and I want to make the best choice. I am a technology buff, I like testing new features. I'd like a ROM that has all the cool stuff, but is stable.
Another issue I haven't been able to solve is Manlla. I'm not getting anywhere on this issue. It seems like I can't find the correct files for my software which is as follows:
Firmware Version: 2.1-update1
Baseband Verson: 1.36.00.04.02
Kernel Version: 2.6.29-a2443432
Build #: 1.32.651.6 CL171253 release-keys
Software: 1.32.651.6
So from what It looks like, is I went from 1.47 to 1.32 when I used the full root method?
Again, my questions were:
1) Which ROM offers many features, stability, but doesn't leave capabilities out?
2) How do I get Manila installed?
I know some ROMs such as EnergyROM have them built in, are there others?
I do plan on being an active members here, and helping others as well. Please be patient while I get in the groove!
Thanks!
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My vote is for all of them. You really need to try the roms yourself. Clockwork and Amon Ra make it easy enough to switch back and forth. Back that nand up
Read, in the development section, the sticky posts at the top of the section. They should be of some assistance in getting you more up to speed. Don't ask people to make up your mind for you, but you could list important things you're looking for and if other members of the forum have any suggestions.
I may be wrong, so don't take this at gospel, but I think you might need a couple more hardware flash updates to being you up to current. I know there was a radio and 4g flash update here a few weeks back. That's the ones I'm talking about. I just recently tried out calklin's (probably spelled his nick wrong, sorry) stock rooted rom based on the newest update of the 1.47 one. Sorry I'm being so vague, I'm doing this from memory. I have CRS, can't remember ****!
Anyways, that stock rooted rom was a nice one, imo. It seemed to behave itself quite well and not give me any snafus to speak of. I was impressed with it's stability and yet had the advantage of having root. You gotta crawl before walking, so this is my suggestion for a good rom to start with and start learning the world of android, imo.
Sorry. I know I tend to ramble. It's my over-compensation for being so quiet in real life.
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Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695
Wimax and radio updates
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
I used those and have had no problems. I like/use clockworkmod recovery. Search rom manager in the market. That's probably the easiest way to flash a recovery, I think...
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I recommend Backed Snacks 9.7 or DamageControl 3.2.3. Fresh is the most popular rom, but I think it is vastly overrated.
herbthehammer said:
I have CRS, can't remember ****!
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I hope you don't mean Congenital Rubella Syndrome.
jerryparid said:
I recommend Backed Snacks 9.7 or DamageControl 3.2.3. Fresh is the most popular rom, but I think it is vastly overrated.
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Why do you think that?
I also recommend Baked Snack. Just checked my battery time yesterday and after 14 hours off charger I still had 76% battery left. Damage is another great one that I have used. A few mire features over baked, but not as good on battery. I had good luck on Fresh too, but switched to based and have never looked back.
Stay away from froyo roms for now. No 4g, BT broken on some, intermittent exchange support, and other issues make it not stable enough for everyday yet. And while it is fast, I do not see enough of an improvement to lose the stability and features of the 2.1 eclair roms.
Most of all, try them and have fun doing it. I have been at this for a month now, and I am enjoying everyday of it!
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Manila allows new themes for HTC Sense, which is something I really wanted to do. I jailbreak my iPhone mainly for the reason of custom themes.
The thing is from what I've read, it appears as if it doesn't support my software? I'm not entirely sure.
As far as capabilities, I'm not sure what I'm looking for. I have read the threads and forums, but it seems to be overwhelming so I was trying to get some advice to see which ones I should pay more attention to. A friend sent a link earlier, and it helped clarify what exactly the ROMs are - I'm just concerned about functionality.
I don't want to flash the rom and lose wifi, or 4g, etc. As far as additional capabilities, I don't know what I would utilize. Battery performance of course, but mainly I want custom themes lol.
SilverZero said:
I hope you don't mean Congenital Rubella Syndrome.
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Heh I think he meant Can'tRememberShit
Now, I'm an android noob. I have noticed that there are several different [ROMS] for the G2, but I am not sure which one works the best, or is the best. I have tried reading what they have, but I get lost in the technical mumbo jumbo like streamlined or deoxied or whatever, and kitchen and prebaked...
Can you guys give your opinions on which [ROM] you guys use / think is the best, and why?
You should stick with stock.
Try them all and see what fits you best, each rom has perks over other roms.
Really the first step is rooting then backing up your stock rom and finally flashing different roms to see what you like. Id start with a sense rom so you can see the differences in layout and features.
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Its all a matter of peronal preferance. I personally like the sense roms but I also like cyanogen's ROMs. Sense is a memory hog but its got cool features while stock and cyanogen roms are fast and stable. So there really isn't any "best" rom per say...but go root ur phone and try em all till you find one u like.
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Next let's start a thread that says [Q][Help] What should my favorite food be?
Really, it's all a matter of preference. Is there any specific feature about having root that you want over stock? Perhaps you want to avoid the tethering charge or to theme it up some. If that's all you really want to do, stick with a stock,rooted, deodexed rom. If you love having lots of options and new settings and to have better performance, try cyanogenmod. Does stock android not satisfy you? Maybe you want a sense rom. Or maybe you want a sense-based expresso rom. The only person that can decide what is best is you, the user. What you need your phone to do is different than anyone else. Oh, and welcome to XDA, the place where dreams are possible, boundaries are broken, and questions end up in the development forum.
Yeah personally I'm a fan of Cyanogen but you can try any of them out. But just so you're aware, there will be many many more ROMs soon enough, we haven't even had perm root for a month yet
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If you are new to the whole scene, you should just sit back and wait right now, and be paitient. Every non-stock ROM out there right now has lots of issues.
We will have more stable versions of the Desire Sense ROMs and of course the CM stable ROM soon.
It's fun to experiment, though. Just perm-root, do a NANDroid backup, and flash away. You can always revert back to stock.
The most functional and stable setup I've tried so far is Stock with OTA, perm-root, and bacon bits. I'm also overclocked at 1.497GHz with no issues. Everything just works, and is lightning fast.
I'm also new to the android world and am curious as well. I get lost when reading and trying to understand exactly what's being talked about. Me, I'm looking for having great battery life and remove some of these stock apps that I'll never use and I dont like looking at. Is a ROM basically a copy of another phones UI?
That's what i'm wondering about too.
I believe they should make a thread with all the roms.
I want a rom with HTC sense that is based on Android 2.2 (froyo?)
If you want a fast rom that's stock but doesn't have all the bs bloatware.. then root your g2, over clock to ~1ghz and get root explorer and you can go into system/apps (I think) and delete the apks you don't use.. which is what I do. Therefore your on stock froyo, quicker and less bloatware.. if you want a stock froyo sense rom then try our modacos rom.. it has a kitchen (basically you can use this to pick what apps you want installed in the rom and which you dont) I haven't tried the virtous rom yet.. but I don't doubt its great.. like someone already said.. if your new you should wait till more roms come out. Focus on learning about perm root(theres a video out there) and how to do the basics like overclocking(there's a video somewhere too)... then move from there when we have more developed roms. Even thou cyanogen is very stable and runs well.
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Cyanogenmod-6.1.0-RC1 is the best
convolution said:
That's what i'm wondering about too.
I believe they should make a thread with all the roms.
I want a rom with HTC sense that is based on Android 2.2 (froyo?)
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Here's some advice dog, hopefully from reading my story you will have a better grasp of what's the best way to tackle your new android phone.
I started with the g1 sometime back in 08 which stayed stock until I decided to dunk it in the local river on a date (bad one at that), didn't even know you could modify those phones at that time. Picked up a cliq xt and discovered about what root meant (even thought I didn't REALLY understand). After rooting the phone via adb (very scary as I had no experience) and flashing a rom (lucky I didn't brick the ****) I decided I needed to read more..not just about the xt but about other phones and android period. At that point in time all I had was Modmymobile.com which was scarce as far as knowledge goes due to small developer base (can't blame them). After sucking up all I could I started cruising forums dealing with other phones and decided to get a captivate. The captivate was cool, but was still very new. After bricking two captivates (due to ****ty hardware lock) and tired of dealing with bad att coverage I came back to tmobile and picked up the vibrant. I'll tell you this I had FUN with the vibrant in spite of not having froyo, the vibrant guys have a strong deveolper base and Eugene is a very bright developer along with the guys at Team Whiskey. Sadly, TouchWhiz and no hardware keyboard pushed me to talk to tmobile about the g2 in which they offered me one via straight exchange. The root hassle ensued and I read more and more. Here I am today!
Basically, I read. Like..alot. And when I didn't feel like reading anymore, I would find a new android topic to read on. This didn't come without consequence though, as stated I bricked two captivates ( actually my fist vibrant along with a second g2). Don't be afraid to jump into adb, just be smart about it.
You'll also be surprised at what you learn from cruising the other phone forums too.
On that thought, a Bible thread like the SGS guys have would be sweet!
-Cody
shady503403 said:
If you want a fast rom that's stock but doesn't have all the bs bloatware.. then root your g2, over clock to ~1ghz and get root explorer and you can go into system/apps (I think) and delete the apks you don't use.. which is what I do. Therefore your on stock froyo, quicker and less bloatware.. if you want a stock froyo sense rom then try our modacos rom.. it has a kitchen (basically you can use this to pick what apps you want installed in the rom and which you dont) I haven't tried the virtous rom yet.. but I don't doubt its great.. like someone already said.. if your new you should wait till more roms come out. Focus on learning about perm root(theres a video out there) and how to do the basics like overclocking(there's a video somewhere too)... then move from there when we have more developed roms. Even thou cyanogen is very stable and runs well.
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I just installed the Virtuous ROM and it works great. As for Oc'ing, I don't think I'll need all the processing power. Not like I'm encoding videos or anything. I don't wanna waste the batteries. I COULD underclock it...
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What are the criteria for judging ROM? What make's one better than the other? If I have like 10 roms all featuring the HTC Sense... What makes 1 more superior than the other, other than subjective feel, ie: "It runs smoother", or, "It runs faster and is more stable."
Are there any definitive proof with numbers? Anything we can use to test ROM performance, akin to Quadrant testing phone performance?
you will get different quadrant scores on different ROMs, the only best ROM is the one you made, or whatever ROM you decide to use
convolution said:
I just installed the Virtuous ROM and it works great. As for Oc'ing, I don't think I'll need all the processing power. Not like I'm encoding videos or anything. I don't wanna waste the batteries. I COULD underclock it...
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I actually get BETTER battery life since overclocking...go figure.
Awww. I want a definitive concrete, scientific method of measuring the performance of the ROMs. I'm pretty happy with the Virtuous FastBoot... From off to up and running was like 3 seconds...
@ post above
you be trolling.
mejorguille said:
...welcome to XDA, the place where dreams are possible, boundaries are broken, and questions end up in the development forum.
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HAHAHAHA...dude, you just made my new sig...and I'm sorry I know my post has no meaning...
Ok here's some info: OP you need to read this. Even if some of it is "technical mumbo jumbo" I'm sure you'll get the point: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484
Also do your flashing from recovery. Always backup before trying new things. And for best performance, wipe between roms...
all i could get form that is don't mess with hboot and install rom via recovery...
so does that mean as long as I use ROM manager I'm safe?
and I apologize
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mumbo jumbo-> Jargon
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Hello everyone! I'm pretty new with android phones. Until about 4 months ago, I still had a Motorola Razor. I went and bought the LG Optimus M (by Metro PCS) in December, fell in love with androids, and upgraded to the Evo 4G. I love this phone so much!!!
I'm decent with electronics, but I won't mess with my phone too much because it's unknown territory. I rooted my Optimus only to delete bloatware. I won't root my Evo only because I really don't need to (not much bloatware , plus, there's more internal space on this phone). I already can tether and I like Sense, so I personally don't see the need for it (for me, not saying you shouldn't root; again, I'm new to this stuff).
Landing the plane:
What are some fun and interesting things I can do with this phone? What are some cool apps?
BTW, a little off topic, I have the app TV Shows HD. Why did that get taken off of the market?
Thanks guys for dealing with this newbie!
Well unless you root your phone there really isn't much else you can do with it besides download apps and play games. The best apps require root though, so even that has its limitations. The Evo is quite hard to brick, so it would be worth it to root. You can have Sense and have it be even faster with Mikfroyo or some of the other custom roms out there.
housry23 said:
Well unless you root your phone there really isn't much else you can do with it besides download apps and play games. The best apps require root though, so even that has its limitations. The Evo is quite hard to brick, so it would be worth it to root. You can have Sense and have it be even faster with Mikfroyo or some of the other custom roms out there.
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Hmm, okay. Well, can you do me a favor? Can you please (if and when you have time) to send me a link to wherever it is I have to go to root my phone along with information about the root, how to root and all of that fun stuff?
Again, I don't know much. I love this phone and where I live I have 4G nearly everywhere I go. I would love to make this phone even cooler!
Here is a link to a sticky in the development section which has links to pretty much everything you need to root your phone. Just read up on it and try to get as much information as possible. After you root it you can load custom roms, kernels and themes to your phone as well as back it up, restore it from a backup and many more goodies. I suggest reading all over this Evo forum here at XDA about rooting. Everything you need to know and everything you need to do it are right here. Read about all the different Roms and what they have and don't have and decide which will be best for you. Get started here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245
If 4G is important to you make sure that 4G is working in the Rom before flashing. It is on AOSP Roms now like CM7. You can stick with stock Sprint and still be rooted too if you really like it. Many devs have taken stock Sprint Rom and modified it, making it faster with less bloat and just plain better. My favorite Sense Rom was Mikfroyo, but I am a dedicated CM7 user now.
Thanks! I really appreciate it!
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No problem. I'm just glad to help. Good luck & happy flashing.
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in one of the subforums.. in evo ...
there is a long ass thread of recommended apps...
I agree man. If you aren't new to rooting, then definitely give it a go on the EVO. Just do your homework and research well before you start, you'll be fine.
The evo has excellent dev support, there are some really fantastic roms to choose from, beauty of rooting ... you're choice never has to be final. There are also some excellent people making excellent themes.. definitely fun to change it up every once in a while.
You can also improve performance, speed, battery life and add new features with root. You will not be disappointed.
Just be sure to at least hit the Thanks button if you use someones work, it's important for these guys to know they're appreciated.
I just rooted for the first time very recently (~2 days) and I found the following posts extremely helpful and, in combination, to provide a fully comprehensive guide on how to root, what to expect, how to avoid doing things wrong, how to backup, how to restore, how to flash ROMs and kernels and other add-ons, et cetera:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881747
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887900
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6949215#post6949215
http://htcevorooting.x10.mx/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/194918-rooting-dummies.html
Additionally, as others have stated, do read up on the EVO forums here and read up as much as you can on rooting and ROMs and kernels and such. Hope I helped.
Thanks guys! I can't believe their is a forum filed with really cool and helpful people! Thank you all!
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Idk if this is still relevant but there WERE several hw versions that required different rooting methods, be careful with that. Maybe they all have a unified rooting method now, I don't pay any attention to that stuff now that I have a custom recovery.
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Idk if this is still relevant but there WERE several hw versions that required different rooting methods, be careful with that. Maybe they all have a unified rooting method now, I don't pay any attention to that stuff now that I have a custom recovery.
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thats all been ironed out. as long as it's an up to date root method, they all work on any hardware or hboot version.
Wow! I'm on other forums for comic books and action figures (yeah, I'm a freaking nerd) and ask a lot of questions and NO ONE responds to me this clearly and this much. This was first thread as well as my first post. This forum is great! Thank you everybody! I will look to root my phone this weekend with a friend of mine who is pretty phone savvy. I will let you guys know how it goes. Again, thank you all so much!
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Im a Noob here guys, so let me appologize in advance...Ive been a little trigger shy about starting this thread to say the least, so here are my issues...
Like a noob I updated my new gs2 right out of the box to 2.3.6 without even considering problems with roms. I was able to gain root access with zedomaxs gs2root.com tutorial, as I did with my last gs2 on original firmware.
I am currently on juggs 4.1 & its working nicley except my data speeds have dropped from 12-15 mbps down to 2-6. My battery life seems to be okay but i dont remember how stock was as i left the gs2 for a short while for the amaze wich had AWFULL battery life, so anything seems great in comparison. I want to get my data speeds corrected, & I also would really like to move to bombaridier rom but im not sure exactly wich roms I will be able to use with the ota upgrade I did? I was going to flash it & see if everything went okay as it seems to be a very attractive rom for my needs, but I would rather not do anymore flashing without learning if there are any risks with flashing roms while on the 2.3.6 firmware, & whether or not I am going to be experiencing issues on all roms with this particular update on my device.
I am also curious as to if I will be able to unroot my gs2 since I rooted it with the new firmware this time.
My final question is are there any stable AOSP roms I could use with this firmware? I am by no means experienced but I have rooted and flashed several roms on my old htc sensation but i have never tried aosp, so i suppose I may just be interested in an opinion on this matter.
I have read alot of info/threads on xda so I dont want to come off as lazy, & my brain is almost overloading with the vast amount of info I read on this AMAZINGLY informative site. I am a person who LOVES to gain knowledge & self educate, so your site has become quite addictive to me over the past 6-8 weeks!
I am very sorry, but I can be a little long winded, & if anyone out there could forgive my lack of understanding and provide me with any advice or guidance on what my options may be, & if I have any possible risks running roms on this firmware, I would be more than happy to click your donate button, as I am so very appreciative of all the free knowledge the great ppl of xda have provided me! I feel lucky to have access to your site, & I am looking foreward to one day becoming a productive & contributing member.
Thank you, Joe T.- androholic
"Android is my Anti-Drug"
androholic said:
Im a Noob here guys, so let me appologize in advance...Ive been a little trigger shy about starting this thread to say the least, so here are my issues...
Like a noob I updated my new gs2 right out of the box to 2.3.6 without even considering problems with roms. I was able to gain root access with zedomaxs gs2root.com tutorial, as I did with my last gs2 on original firmware.
I am currently on juggs 4.1 & its working nicley except my data speeds have dropped from 12-15 mbps down to 2-6. My battery life seems to be okay but i dont remember how stock was as i left the gs2 for a short while for the amaze wich had AWFULL battery life, so anything seems great in comparison. I want to get my data speeds corrected, & I also would really like to move to bombaridier rom but im not sure exactly wich roms I will be able to use with the ota upgrade I did?
I am also curious as to if I will be able to unroot my gs2 since I rooted it with the new firmware this time.
My final question is are there any stable AOSP roms I could use with this firmware? I am by no means experienced but I have rooted and flashed several roms on my old htc sensation but i have never tried aosp, so i suppose I may just be interested in an opinion on this matter.
I have read alot of info/threads on xda so I dont want to come off as lazy, & my brain is almost overloading with the vast amount of info I read on this AMAZINGLY informative site. I am a person who LOVES to gain knowledge & self educate, so your site has become quite addictive to me over the past 6-8 weeks!
I am very sorry, but I can be a little long winded, & if anyone out there could forgive my lack of understanding I would be more than happy to click your donate button, as I am so very appreciative of all the free knowledge the great ppl of xda have provided me! I feel lucky to have access to your site, & I am looking foreward to one day becoming a productive & contributing member.
Thank you, Joe T.- androholic
"Android is my Anti-Drug"
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The upgrade to 2.3.6 enables wifi calling and a new radio. So far, I haven't noticed any problems with the update.
I'm not familiar with the root method you used. I used the Odin method to root mine. It is possible to go back to completely stock though. So, you don't have to worry. I believe there is a thread in the general section, or development section about doing so.
There are two CM7 roms in the dev section. Both are basically alpha builds and have some bugs. There are also two roms the have touchwiz removed.
I'm not sure about the data speed issues. Maybe try flashing a different rom and see if it changes?
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The upgrade to 2.3.6 enables wifi calling and a new radio. So far, I haven't noticed any problems with the update.
I'm not familiar with the root method you used. I used the Odin method to root mine. It is possible to go back to completely stock though. So, you don't have to worry. I believe there is a thread in the general section, or development section about doing so.
There are two CM7 roms in the dev section. Both are basically alpha builds and have some bugs. There are also two roms the have touchwiz removed.
I'm not sure about the data speed issues. Maybe try flashing a different rom and see if it changes?
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The method I used to root was odin as well. If I flash bombaridier I would assume I am safe then? I also have my stock root backup, as well as a backup of juggernaut 4.1. I have done the unroot process before, I just was not sure if it would have the same outcome since I rooted with odin on the new firmware. also,am I okay to flash any rom, even though I am on the 2.3.6 firmware or are there any that may cause serious problems being they were probably written for previous firmware versions? THANK YOU so very much for your reply! I dont want to beat a dead horse, I guess I am looking for confirmation that flashing roms on the new firmware, isnt a big no no , or requires any xtra steps....Thanks again to you!