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Closing running programs

Has Any one found a program or hack that aloows you to close the running programs when you hit the little X ? It seems simple but Im not sure why they made it so they still run when you close the program for all of the applications. When I pess the X I'm done what about you all?
Dekum of the New Outriders :roll:

Dekum:
Many people have found many ways of doing it. A search will open this world up to you.
Here's a good way to do it though:
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/smclose.shtml
As I said, there are other ways, it may be in your interest to get a wider opinion before diving in to smclose.
V

Thanks thats what I was looking for I will let you know how it works.

I use one called Close All. Basically a red X that when executed will close all running apps. Very handy. Much quicker than Start>Settings>System>Memory>Running Programs>Stop All.

I've tried a lot of these and all suffer the problem of not being able to close the phone dialer and most bork some how. ActiveSync can also be a pain closing, but some tools are better than others.
My personal favs are:
vbar: http://www.vieka.com/vbar.htm
magicbutton: http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
I've stuck with magicbutton til I find something that reliably closes the apps above and provides it's simplicity and functionality. I use the battery meter it provides as I have the systray off (until I find something remotely useful for that area). Also I can hide dialer and async and also set them to keep alive, which both keeps them happy and me not seeing them unless I want to
Anyways, plenty of choices, most can be found on google using a search phrase like "pocketpc task manager" or ppc... etc. Gl.

any programs that could be customized (we can choose) whether if we like to close it or just minimize it?
eg: for file explorer if we tap close button then it will close the application, but for messaging if we tap close button then it only minimize it.

yeah many pda programs dont like being terminated in that way
doing it just after sending a sms is giving ppl problems with 2 sms's sendt and sms iron not going away from the title bar
other programs would prob also act up thinking of data not being saved correct
since i suspect some pda programs only really save in when they are closed the normal way as in by the OS

I did try the magicbutton and it seem to work better than the smclose I havnt tried the other yet let know and thanks for the help all this is a great source of information for the 8125 and htc phones.
Thumbs way up!!!!

Vap: VJOkButt has a specific mode for closing the phone, -phclose.
It will close the phone, but it's not advisable to close the phone because it introduces a minor incompatibility - trying to dial from the contacts app will cause problems. However, if you never do this, it'll save you a few 100k.
I've also written two apps specifically to close the phone, I think one if VJPhoneToggle or something.
Again, closing activesync is not advisable because if you're connected through GPRS/Wifi etc, it'll hangup your connection. In most use the app will be hidden from view anyway. VJOkButt ignores ActiveSync.
V

New and need help to get phone working up to it's potential

So on 01/01, I upgraded from my 2 year old 8525 (no mods done to it) to a ATT Tilt 2; and so far here is my issues/things I need help with/report:
Within the first 20 days of the 30 day return period, the SMS notification audible stopped working on sent messages. The notification on the screen still showed on the bottom just no sound. No setting change or soft reset fixed. No other issues before that point.
Got new phone.
Within 5 days on phone number two, the phone would default to SMS tree view (view is found by going to messages in touchflo and selecting 'All Messages' from the bottom left.) Would move TouchFlo to Home screen (my background that shows clock, date, etc.), hit the power key to power save, hit power key to power up, and then on SMS tree view, not my home screen. Didn't matter how long after I manually put phone in power save, it would still not default to homepage screen. Only consistently did this when I manually used the power button to put in power save. When I locked the phone and put in power save no issues, or it was random. When the phone went into power save by itself after my 2 minutes delay, the issue was random. This phone also froze on me twice upon in the SMS function.
Got new phone yesterday.
So far no issues.
So I'm on phone number 3, with the first 2 having software issues.
No mods to any of the phones (yet), and if this phone has issues, I have option to return and pay no restocking fee and get a different phone (probably an iPhone 16GB at this point, as much as I don't want one), or start downloading new manillas, cabs, and shells for this one.
Is there any updates out there I am missing, or anything else I am missing.
I've got my Cox Email (a POP3 push), my Hotmail, and my Yahoo Email (as an IMAP, it defaulted the setup that way) setup, and no other real changes. Using my old microSD card (1GB) that's got songs, audio clips, and pics/vids on it.
I saw the thread on att wireless forums for the update on an SMS freezing issue, not sure if relates to any of my issues, or if I should go ahead and upload to number 3 phone I currently have anyways. And should I upload other fix as well, eventhough I never saw issues with caller id on first 2 phones (coming in as unknown even though contact is calling you). Haven't had third phone long enough to discern any issues yet.
More info: I always have touchflo active
What do I need to do to get things on this phone to make sure it doesn't mess up? Other things one would suggest to customize the phone?
I WANT THE MOST GLITCH FREE POSSIBLE PHONE
Thanks
and sorry for the newb questions

Also to note:
I am technology illiterate. Simple explanations of every step is needed for me.
Also to note, I have a laptop that is running Vista 64bit and I have not uploaded the ActiveSync software to my laptop yet
my brother mentioned something to me about a PIM? for backup?

I can't speak to all the other issues you've seen, but AT&T packs a lot of bloat-ware on the stock ROM they put on the Tilt2, and it's usually stuff that users have no need for.
There's a utility at this thread that will sweep all that junk off in one swipe, you'll find it frees up a good amount of the available memory in the phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637&highlight=crud+scraper

Okay. Thanks for the reply.
Something I want to do is get rid of all the crap I don't want, including but not limited to:
- all demo stuff
- the music files that came on the phone (artists: Chris Hawkes, Pacha Massive, Sidestepper)
- AT&T Navigator
- WorldCard Mobile
anything that is not related to phone, text, email, internet, my photos and music from my card, Facebook, stocks, weather = rest of it gone
I was reading in the sticky threads on how to do what and was still confusing and it scared me from doing anything to this phone, but I know I need to do things to clean it up and make it run better
Can anyone give me an idiot, idiot, to the supreme idiot guide on how to do what I need to do?
1. Upload ActiveSync to my laptop (not done yet) (my laptop runs Vista 64bit)
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All I want to do is make the phone run better and fix glitches, and not have any glitches in doing this.
Thanks

After I do steps 1 - whatever,
should I install hotfix for unknown caller id and freezing SMS issue
htp://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=125218
or would another thing from someone else resolve this?

Maybe what I learned will help?
Have a look at this thread, and see if it helps you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625730
Good luck!

yeah it was a help thanks for the reply, but it wasn't a help.
as you see above, i haven't even put the activesync software on my laptop. so after i do that, what do i need to do first to get that crud+scraper and other things on my phone?
idiots guide please

what i need to do in what order is very confusing to me. all of this is confusing to me
i just want my phone to be less bloated and work properly with no issues. i think i have seen the caller id issue and not sure if i'm still getting the sms tree issue i saw on phone #2 i just replaced

The order is listed.
Hi again,
Yes, go ahead and get activesync on your computer 1st thing
then, Look at post #9. Do it in that order.
The .net 3.5 mentioned can be found here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...49-3C6B-42F1-9FD9-0041345B3385&displaylang=en
Just download that, and run it while your phone is connected to activesync. It will put .net 3.5 on your phone. Next, copy the 3 files for crud scraper onto the phone somewhere you can find it, like my documents (on your PC, you'll need to right-click, copy, then right click, paste). Once the files are on the phone, just find the folder you put them in and click on the 'poop' icon. You can then clean off all the crap you want by checking the boxes.
So,
#1 Get activesync
#2 get .net 3.5
#3 run crudscraper
#4 I highly recommend SPB mobile shell. (google it) It just makes much easier to navigate the phone. There is a free 15 day trial.
#5 any of the other apps I mentioned are good.
That should get you started.

thanks for the reply subterran

subterran:
any thoughts to my homepage/message tree issue that occured with #2, and mow occuring with #3 phone I currently have? Thanks
the phone would default to SMS tree view (view is found by going to messages in touchflo and selecting 'All Messages' from the bottom left.) Would move TouchFlo to Home screen (my background that shows clock, date, etc.), hit the power key to power save, hit power key to power up, and then on SMS tree view, not my home screen. Didn't matter how long after I manually put phone in power save, it would still not default to homepage screen. Only consistently did this when I manually used the power button to put in power save. When I locked the phone and put in power save no issues, or it was random. When the phone went into power save by itself after my 2 minute delay, the issue was random.

Latest ROM Update 2.07.401.1 WM 6.5 Sense 2.5 (Suggested Reg tweaks added on page 5)

It would seem that there are an awful lot of new threads on the subject, perhaps we could concentrate all the issues that we have with it (no matter which flavour) in one thread, can be this one or another, I don't mind but I think it should be done, would tidy things up a little.
Anyway, reason for starting this one is to try and collate all of the issues that we have with it, you never know, people in the right places may listen, but then again, pigs might fly, but it's the thought that counts! lol.
Generally
I like the update, I like using Sense 2.5 with the new twitter tab and the new programme buttons on the home screen, Facebook seems a little more integrated and I like that fact you have to dig a little deeper to get to WM.
However;
Home Screen
Weather animation is slow and laggy if;
a) You have more than 3 programmes added or;
b) More that one contact added
However, if the clock is minimised and all programme tabs visible, the animations are as good ad the demo and weather tab. Very annoying!!!!
Contacts
I like the new People shortcuts, but the fluidity of scrolling is rubbish, it's very jerky.
Open a contact and then tap edit, way too slow to open up and edit, perhaps 3-4 seconds. In real time, that's not a lot, but it is when using a phone. Then tap save, WTF! this takes even longer and it would appear to be even worse when you link your profile to FB, it's to the point of being painful.
This is just as bad if you tap on Menu and the edit.
Update and Events
Well, installed the 'hotfix' for FB Albums; guess what? It doesn't work, I still cannot seen any pictures in any album. I even wiped the ROM and started completeyl fresh to see if that was causing issues, but nope, still doesn't work.
I'm not overly happy that adding people to my favourites adds notes to each person and addes them to the HTC Favourites Group. We never needed that with Sense 2.1 so why now?
I thought that perhaps the issues I have with the Contacts is because I have over 700. Nope, doesn't seem to make a blind bit of difference how many or few you have, still get the same issues.
Messaging
I like the HTC SMS Client, it's starting to grow on me..... just. However,
When replying to a sms in landscape with the keyboard exposed, tap the menu softkey and then try and use the keyboard up and down arrows. Gues what, you cant! Very annoying.
I also cannot see how I can add the little pop up that tells me the sms has been sent. Now I know that most people on here don't like that, but I did, maybe I'm wired.
I also don't like it that the delivery report forms part of the treaded message as opposed to being separate - maybe that's mee being too fussy.
Calendar
I like the calendar it looks cleaner although the one big annoyance is the agenda view. No matter if I tap on the event from the home page or from the sliding menu at the bottom, the agenda view taks a good 5 seconds to load - outrageous! lol.
Twitter tab
Again, I like the twitter tab but, on a few occaisions, without any prior warning, all tweets disappear!?! hhmmmmm
Settings tab
For me, the Sound & Display menu is a little slow at showing but it's not too bad.
Other Issues
SOD - (Standby of Death) Only ever experienced this once and have no idea what caused it.
Radio 4.49.25.91 - Sometimes, when I travel through a bad signal area, the radio with not 'refresh' it's self and run through the signal search loop, it just sits there and sits there with the exclamation mark until I manually turn the radio off and back on again. Never had this issue with 4.49.25.17.
Finally, to ensure that the issues highlighted above were not due to remnants of previous ROM files hanging behind ofter flashing, I ran Task29 on the device to ensure that the ROM storage was clear and cleaned of any rubbish and freshly installed 2.07.401.1.
After all that, I genuinely do like this ROM and I guess these are just annoying niggles but you can only take so much. Am I going to revert back to WM 6.5 with Sense 2.1, only time will tell.

Agree with pretty much all you have said. Specifically
1 important to concentrate all all issues with this ROM in one thread
2 these are some key other threads on XDA that I think are relevant with issues from this ROM, at least can be referred to from here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648510
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631563
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634536
3 SOD is the biggest issue for me. Happens frequently during the day. HTC want me to send the device for repair, but I do not believe this to be a hardware issue. Phone has functioned perfectly since new in May 2009, SOD has only arisen on moving to this March 18th ROM
4 HTC posting data in our Contacts : terrible. This was certainly the cause of lock ups I had when first installing the ROM as that data got more and more corrupted.
5 I cannot get Facebook auto update working. I have about 1,000 contacts, about 50 of them synced to Facebook
6 Twitter does not fully update for me
7 Overall, when it works, I think Sense 2.5 is very good. I haven't had any issues with the SMS client which I think is a very good improvement over 2.1
8 as it stands, phone is unusable. I cannot rely on it for people to contact me as it is often SOD. A phone that people can't ring? That's not progress
9 Facebook albums - doesn't work, have never been able to get this working. Link to patch on HTC Europe website is broken, do HTC know?
Come on HTC, accept that you have an issue, agree to investigate and fix it.
Am in the UK, unlocked, unbranded phone, I use O2.

Calendar
The slowness in the Agenda seems to be negatively influenced by having all-day, and/or recurring appointments.
One thing I noticed is that when editing a single occurrence of an recurring appointment, you can change the time, but not the date of the occurrence (which is possible in the default client).
Messaging
Although I like the messaging app, it takes an awful long time to load one thread. Why didn't they implement this the same way as the default client (limited number of messages shown, with a link to "older messages")?
Other issues
Memory usage is ok after a soft reset (around 50%), but after a day of use it easily reaches 75-80%, even with all programs closed.

ridolfo said:
Calendar
The slowness in the Agenda seems to be negatively influenced by having all-day, and/or recurring appointments.
One thing I noticed is that when editing a single occurrence of an recurring appointment, you can change the time, but not the date of the occurrence (which is possible in the default client).
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I concur with that. That's going to be a bit of a problem for me as I have several re-ocurring appointments.

I have issues with the new rom also.
I have the same issues you have. In addition my speakerphone function doesn't work most of the time. I have to turn it of and back on again and sometimes even redial.
Regards,
Rob

reflecs said:
I have issues with the new rom also.
I have the same issues you have. In addition my speakerphone function doesn't work most of the time. I have to turn it of and back on again and sometimes even redial.
Regards,
Rob
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I've not tried the speakerphone issue yet, will have a go later.

another issue, file activity like installing apps or copying files is unacceptable slow.

reflecs said:
another issue, file activity like installing apps or copying files is unacceptable slow.
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Personally, I haven't noticed any difference with previous ROM's in this respect.

Hmm. Seems after a soft reset file activity is better now.

Wow, editing favorite contacts is really slow. I added a few lines to the notes of one of my favorites, and it took literally 5 minutes to get back to the Home screen.

For me it helped reflashing the ROM; flash the Sense 2.5 ROM and then immediately flash it again. Made it slightly more responsive. Other than that, I have the same issues as you do.
Contacted HTC about it and they told me UPS should pick up the phone since it's a hardware problem... Yeah right.
For me the most annoying part is the speaker phone issue, annoying when ppl can't hear me.

I've contacted support through HTC's website. I've putted in 4 problems and got an awnser on 2.
The speaker problem is a hardware failure according to the support desk. Such a nonsens!
This ROM is broken and they should fix it!

Other issues
Memory usage is ok after a soft reset (around 50%), but after a day of use it easily reaches 75-80%, even with all programs closed.[/QUOTE]
Hy.what about Call History in Home Screen?i don't have CH

dan_tmx said:
Other issues
Memory usage is ok after a soft reset (around 50%), but after a day of use it easily reaches 75-80%, even with all programs closed.
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Hy.what about Call History in Home Screen?i don't have CH[/QUOTE]
That's not really an issue; that's how the new Sense is designed. If you want it back, look for C00kie's Home Tab Mod.

what about Call History in Home Screen?i don't have CH
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You don't need Call History, just tap "Phone" and it's there.
The speaker problem is a hardware failure according to the support desk. Such a nonsens!
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They told me that as well, wanted me to ship them the phone by UPS since it was a hardware problem... even though I told them lots of others have that problem with 2.5 and that it was JUST FINE before upgrading.

Found errors and one worth to add, too.
Error - Calendar:
I've tried to insert a birthday reminder in July 20th, and set it up for "ever July 20th" but i wont listet in July, the reason is, its added in april, i think its the current Month, seems to like an variableerror or an programmingerror. Defently worth to fix.
Worth to add - General / Shortlinks:
A shortlink to settingstab/menu, its annoying to have 5 tabs to access the real options + the loading time of the differnt tabs/menus.
Optional - Found something helpful - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285366
Very worth to add - Onlinerules (maybe there is a programm that provides this):
It's annoying when i at home that, in the second i tab on the power button my w-lan and bei umtsmodule begins to initiate simultanly an internet connection, there could be some rule, w-lan before umts or something, the device got A-GPS, maybe set a home zone where the UMTS lets the w-lan the higher priority and get into the internet. But i've always use the shortcut FN+Commandcenter(rightkey) to deactivate the UMTS, because i doenst recognize that the wlan is 5 times faster.
Maybe we could all errors to the first post, for a better overview.

Since the new update, the task-manager-icon(little thing with the arrow), showing running programs and memory usage has disappeared anyone know how to get it back? I've already tried installing the HTC Task Manager 2, but it didn't help

simnl said:
Since the new update, the task-manager-icon(little thing with the arrow), showing running programs and memory usage has disappeared anyone know how to get it back? I've already tried installing the HTC Task Manager 2, but it didn't help
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Find Duttys Task Manager for Leo, install and it should work, but, it cuoldnt close all apps(opera, AS,etc) so you have to check it with builtin task manager from time to time to really close them.

Edward Lowy said:
Agree with pretty much all you have said. Specifically
1 important to concentrate all all issues with this ROM in one thread
2 these are some key other threads on XDA that I think are relevant with issues from this ROM, at least can be referred to from here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648510
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631563
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634536
3 SOD is the biggest issue for me. Happens frequently during the day. HTC want me to send the device for repair, but I do not believe this to be a hardware issue. Phone has functioned perfectly since new in May 2009, SOD has only arisen on moving to this March 18th ROM
4 HTC posting data in our Contacts : terrible. This was certainly the cause of lock ups I had when first installing the ROM as that data got more and more corrupted.
5 I cannot get Facebook auto update working. I have about 1,000 contacts, about 50 of them synced to Facebook
6 Twitter does not fully update for me
7 Overall, when it works, I think Sense 2.5 is very good. I haven't had any issues with the SMS client which I think is a very good improvement over 2.1
8 as it stands, phone is unusable. I cannot rely on it for people to contact me as it is often SOD. A phone that people can't ring? That's not progress
9 Facebook albums - doesn't work, have never been able to get this working. Link to patch on HTC Europe website is broken, do HTC know?
Come on HTC, accept that you have an issue, agree to investigate and fix it.
Am in the UK, unlocked, unbranded phone, I use O2.
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Completely agree with all in the above post, especially the SOD which is completely random on my device which is only 3 weeks old (bought from clove and shipped with the latest official HTC ROM) I have been naggin my boss to buy me a tp2 for months as my tytn2 was becoming unreliable and now i find the tp2 even worse, even though im a die hard HTC fan i fear i might have to consider sending the device back and getting a blackberry as this is totally unacceptable for a business tool. Have also reported the issue to HTC to which i got a reply of "try a hard reset" which isnt very good when the device was only 4days old at the time.
Tony

::RiL:: said:
Completely agree with all in the above post, especially the SOD which is completely random on my device which is only 3 weeks old (bought from clove and shipped with the latest official HTC ROM) I have been naggin my boss to buy me a tp2 for months as my tytn2 was becoming unreliable and now i find the tp2 even worse, even though im a die hard HTC fan i fear i might have to consider sending the device back and getting a blackberry as this is totally unacceptable for a business tool. Have also reported the issue to HTC to which i got a reply of "try a hard reset" which isnt very good when the device was only 4days old at the time.
Tony
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That your new phone is SOD'ing is very bad news indeed. Mine is heading back to HTC tomorrow, quite why I don't know as categorically the issues are with the March 18th ROM. Have simply lost the will to live in corresponding with HTC's "technical support".
Technical support, my arse.
Right - let us try and be constructive.
My TP2 which works flawlessly with ROM's up to March 18th
It has only ever had HTC stock ROM's
it was bought unlocked and unbranded from Clove in May 2009. I am on O2
It has a 6 Gb Micro SD card
I have never used HardSPL
I use Commontime mSuite software to link the TP2 with our Lotus Notes installation, syncing Contacts, email and calendar
even without installing any software whatsoever on top of March 18th ROM I have had SOD
Sense 2.5 places unauthorised (by me!) data in the Comments field of your contacts with details of Facebook & favourites Sense entries. This data gets appended to the Comments field in Lotus Notes and renders that field corrupted.
In the 10 months between May 2009 and March 2010, I never had a single SOD incident. Since the March 18th ROM, I would get at least 6 SOD's per day. I do not feel that I am being Sherlock Holmes by suggesting that the SOD issue is linked exclusively to the March 18th ROM.
In sheer frustration and because I actually need to use the TP2, I recently reverted to the previous ROM. No SOD's.
Anyway, all you SOD'ers out there (or is it just me), what is the precise make up of your TP2, can we find anything in common?

Ugh - @WinPhoneSupport: "We'd suggest restoring your backup ..."

Well, first of all hello to everyone! I am new in here but have been visiting XDA for a pretty long time now.
Now with the introduction aside, let me get to my issue.
I don't know if you have noticed some problems with non-working live tiles of apps pinned at the home screen, the inability to connect to messaging (Live Messenger, Facebook chat) or other general problems.
Well, I contacted @WinPhoneSupport (as well as many, many other people) to report two problems (the first two mentioned above) that I'm currently experiencing. I was advised by them to restart my phone and then pull my battery for at least two minutes in order to see what happens. So, I left my battery out overnight but my problems weren't fixed.
I was told then to restore my backup and reinstall Mango
After thinking about it for some hours, I thought it would be better to start over again by doing a factory reset but then I suddenly remembered that some things I care about were not saved in the Zune "backup" so now I'm stuck again with the problem.
So, I am now in a dilemma; should I just reset my phone and go my way up till Mango from RTM? If so, is there some homebrew that could save data which is not saved by Zune? I'm interested on saving some ringtones (not available anywhere else!) I downloaded from the Insider app. [ I was considereing using the Windows Phone Device Manager but it can't identified my phone (dev unlocked). ]
or
Is there any way I could possibly fix the "Can't connect to see who's online" error message in Messaging?
I appreciate any help you can provide to my problem.

A factory reset will do. I did it and it was restores to mango, not the pre mango state. Live tiles etc works well after that.
Sent from my LG-E900

astroXP said:
Well, first of all hello to everyone! I am new in here but have been visiting XDA for a pretty long time now.
Now with the introduction aside, let me get to my issue.
I don't know if you have noticed some problems with non-working live tiles of apps pinned at the home screen, the inability to connect to messaging (Live Messenger, Facebook chat) or other general problems.
Well, I contacted @WinPhoneSupport (as well as many, many other people) to report two problems (the first two mentioned above) that I'm currently experiencing. I was advised by them to restart my phone and then pull my battery for at least two minutes in order to see what happens. So, I left my battery out overnight but my problems weren't fixed.
I was told then to restore my backup and reinstall Mango
After thinking about it for some hours, I thought it would be better to start over again by doing a factory reset but then I suddenly remembered that some things I care about were not saved in the Zune "backup" so now I'm stuck again with the problem.
So, I am now in a dilemma; should I just reset my phone and go my way up till Mango from RTM? If so, is there some homebrew that could save data which is not saved by Zune? I'm interested on saving some ringtones (not available anywhere else!) I downloaded from the Insider app. [ I was considereing using the Windows Phone Device Manager but it can't identified my phone (dev unlocked). ]
or
Is there any way I could possibly fix the "Can't connect to see who's online" error message in Messaging?
I appreciate any help you can provide to my problem.
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I would advise you to reconsider if there is any data that you would like to keep or unwilling to drop before doing any reset...

weijoon said:
I would advise you to reconsider if there is any data that you would like to keep or unwilling to drop before doing any reset...
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Yes, there's information I would like to keep but I don't know how
For example:
I downloaded 5 ringtones from the "Insider" app, at first I thought Zune would sync them into the Music folder (PC) but that was not the case.
There are a few SMS I would like to keep, they're not that important but it'd be nice to have 'em.
I suppose there's nothing I can do to save my game scores.
I think that's it, I can't remember of anything else Zune hasn't already save on my PC.
I know I could use Windows Phone Device Manager but I can't get it to work. (Yes, my phone it's dev unlocked)

You can try to copy your sms to a word document and upload it to skydrive. But you won't be able to import them back into messaging hub. As for gamescores, only XBOX live games will be saved.

They really need to alter the way Zune does backups. I have some live tiles that wont function but i'll be damned if i have to reset and they install all of my apps and tile locations again.

@morpheuszg That's a good idea, simple but that'll do it
And yes! MSFT gotta do something with Zune when it comes to backing up
Does anyone know whether Windows Phone Device Manager can access the ringtone folder in WP7 and if it's Mango ready?

None of your games progress will be saved, including Xbox Live games. What you wont lose are the achievements you've already unlocked, but you will have to play those games again from the beginning if you havent finished them already.
Best thing you could do is finish whatever games you want, forward your sms's to another phone where you can send them back again (or copy to word as suggested). I have pinged Joe Belfiore & Brandon Watson several times on twitter about the lack of proper backup, add your voice as well because it really is a disgrace that there is no way to backup data we care about, on the phone that is supposed to be all about the people and things we care about.

[Q] Questions from new Surface RT owner.

Hi all - I have an extremely busy week and a half ahead of me so I've spent much of the day (which is about all the time I can afford for the foreseeable future) searching for answers but haven't had much luck with some of my questions. I have not had a mobile Windows device since WinMo 6.1 or so, the last few years I have maintained Android phones and tablets all of the machines I service for work are mostly WinXP & Win7...in other words, "I'm a newb" in the world of Windows RT. I won a new 32Gb RT this week and I'm trying to incorporate it into everyday life but not having much luck. I've updated the firmware and checked system updates until it was no longer finding updates after each restart. I've also checked the app store and it shows everything as being installed with no updates.
1) One major issue I'm having is that the "What's new" section in the People app does not update. I've connected my Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn accounts numerous times and the tablet tells me that things are syncing and it may take a few minutes but nothing ever shows up. The accounts do not show up under Options\Accounts either. Any suggestions as to my next step? I've also noticed that the Twitter app I downloaded from the store will not start, it shows the splash screen for the app but then goes back to 'Start.'
2) I've attempted to install some apps that initially showed errors during installation. Those apps do not appear in my "all apps" list but if I go to them in the store it says 'I own the app' and there is no option to install. As I said, this happened with a couple apps but did one specific example is with 'Evernote Touch.' Is the app store somehow showing me apps that aren't compatible with RT?
I appreciate any help or suggestions offered, it seems like this is a fantastic piece of hardware but either I am lost or there is a disconnect somewhere with the software.

1) People hub is kinda slow when it comes to updates - when I connected to twitter, it showed me people who I follow only the second time I opened it, and it was after some time. But it showed right away that I connected twitter in the upper right corner, so if it's not showing there, it's probably not connected. If they are, try waiting and rebooting. Apps that just fail to launch may launch on the second, third, n-th launch, Evernote is always failing to launch for the first time, for example.
2) When the app isn't compatible with RT, you can't install it. Also, you can remove apps, that aren't shown by this script from ms. There is also a troubleshooter for windows store from ms, but I don't remember if it works with RT, but you probably should try using it. Evernote touch is not only compatible with RT, it was written especially for it, so there's a problem with your device.

NewMC said:
Hi all - I have an extremely busy week and a half ahead of me so I've spent much of the day (which is about all the time I can afford for the foreseeable future) searching for answers but haven't had much luck with some of my questions. I have not had a mobile Windows device since WinMo 6.1 or so, the last few years I have maintained Android phones and tablets all of the machines I service for work are mostly WinXP & Win7...in other words, "I'm a newb" in the world of Windows RT. I won a new 32Gb RT this week and I'm trying to incorporate it into everyday life but not having much luck. I've updated the firmware and checked system updates until it was no longer finding updates after each restart. I've also checked the app store and it shows everything as being installed with no updates.
1) One major issue I'm having is that the "What's new" section in the People app does not update. I've connected my Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn accounts numerous times and the tablet tells me that things are syncing and it may take a few minutes but nothing ever shows up. The accounts do not show up under Options\Accounts either. Any suggestions as to my next step? I've also noticed that the Twitter app I downloaded from the store will not start, it shows the splash screen for the app but then goes back to 'Start.'
2) I've attempted to install some apps that initially showed errors during installation. Those apps do not appear in my "all apps" list but if I go to them in the store it says 'I own the app' and there is no option to install. As I said, this happened with a couple apps but did one specific example is with 'Evernote Touch.' Is the app store somehow showing me apps that aren't compatible with RT?
I appreciate any help or suggestions offered, it seems like this is a fantastic piece of hardware but either I am lost or there is a disconnect somewhere with the software.
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Hmmmm... Sounds like you need to refresh. I know it's a bummer, but that's the best I can think of. That kind of stuff shouldn't be happening. Otherwise you could always exchange it when you get a chance. Good Luck!

Hi guys, I'm sorry for the delayed response. I viewed your posts a few days ago and apparently I forgot to respond. The issue was apparently the fact that Google and MS are not playing nicely. Even after I wasn't seeing any new updates the system was still sluggish, maybe it was "settling" as is sometimes required in the Android world. I powered down and charged over night, restarted the next morning and made sure the wifi was connected and within a few hours there were more updates showing up. I updated and that's when my Google accounts quit working and I had to remove then set them up again. I also found the Evernote app hidden within "my apps" in the store app, it was "awaiting install," seems like an update restarted the system while it was installing and it didn't want to finish on it's own.
Everything is great now except for the calendar issue and a few everyday apps that seem to be lacking from the app store. I have yet to figure a work to be able to view my Google Apps calendar for work. I can see my regular Google calendar (can not edit but can see everything) but if I subscribe to my GApps calendar I would only be able to see free/busy because my domain does not provide an option for private calendar sharing.
Thanks again!

NewMC said:
Hi guys, I'm sorry for the delayed response. I viewed your posts a few days ago and apparently I forgot to respond. The issue was apparently the fact that Google and MS are not playing nicely. Even after I wasn't seeing any new updates the system was still sluggish, maybe it was "settling" as is sometimes required in the Android world. I powered down and charged over night, restarted the next morning and made sure the wifi was connected and within a few hours there were more updates showing up. I updated and that's when my Google accounts quit working and I had to remove then set them up again. I also found the Evernote app hidden within "my apps" in the store app, it was "awaiting install," seems like an update restarted the system while it was installing and it didn't want to finish on it's own.
Everything is great now except for the calendar issue and a few everyday apps that seem to be lacking from the app store. I have yet to figure a work to be able to view my Google Apps calendar for work. I can see my regular Google calendar (can not edit but can see everything) but if I subscribe to my GApps calendar I would only be able to see free/busy because my domain does not provide an option for private calendar sharing.
Thanks again!
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Try this, even though its a long shot: open Google Calendar, and browse to Calendar > Calendar settings (via the small cog in the top-right corner) > Calendars > "YOUR NAME" > Scroll down to where it says PRIVATE ADDRESS, and click on the ICAL button. Copy the following link. Now go to calendar.live.com, and click on subscribe (above the "month" button). Paste the URL there, name it, and save! Now check to see if your Hotmail calendar syncs on the app.

That works great for my personal Google account but does not work on my Google Apps account for work. I could subscribe to it but only see free/busy, not detailed information, as our company admin has not turned on private addresses. I understand this is an admin issue and not really a fault of the RT.
The fault lies in the fact that even with my subscribed calendar if I tried to edit something it would only be seen on the Surface. It would not replicate to the actual Google calendar and I would not be able to see it on my other devices. This issue stems from the Google/MS war regarding information sharing. My life is on Google because for a long time MS was light years behind the ease of Google's online features where everything can be done from the browser and then synced to your email client and handheld devices. In this instance, the users who spend good money with both Google and MS on hardware/OS are paying the price.
Thanks for your suggestion C-Lang, I appreciate your time and effort.