Has Any one found a program or hack that aloows you to close the running programs when you hit the little X ? It seems simple but Im not sure why they made it so they still run when you close the program for all of the applications. When I pess the X I'm done what about you all?
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Dekum:
Many people have found many ways of doing it. A search will open this world up to you.
Here's a good way to do it though:
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/smclose.shtml
As I said, there are other ways, it may be in your interest to get a wider opinion before diving in to smclose.
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Thanks thats what I was looking for I will let you know how it works.
I use one called Close All. Basically a red X that when executed will close all running apps. Very handy. Much quicker than Start>Settings>System>Memory>Running Programs>Stop All.
I've tried a lot of these and all suffer the problem of not being able to close the phone dialer and most bork some how. ActiveSync can also be a pain closing, but some tools are better than others.
My personal favs are:
vbar: http://www.vieka.com/vbar.htm
magicbutton: http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
I've stuck with magicbutton til I find something that reliably closes the apps above and provides it's simplicity and functionality. I use the battery meter it provides as I have the systray off (until I find something remotely useful for that area). Also I can hide dialer and async and also set them to keep alive, which both keeps them happy and me not seeing them unless I want to
Anyways, plenty of choices, most can be found on google using a search phrase like "pocketpc task manager" or ppc... etc. Gl.
any programs that could be customized (we can choose) whether if we like to close it or just minimize it?
eg: for file explorer if we tap close button then it will close the application, but for messaging if we tap close button then it only minimize it.
yeah many pda programs dont like being terminated in that way
doing it just after sending a sms is giving ppl problems with 2 sms's sendt and sms iron not going away from the title bar
other programs would prob also act up thinking of data not being saved correct
since i suspect some pda programs only really save in when they are closed the normal way as in by the OS
I did try the magicbutton and it seem to work better than the smclose I havnt tried the other yet let know and thanks for the help all this is a great source of information for the 8125 and htc phones.
Thumbs way up!!!!
Vap: VJOkButt has a specific mode for closing the phone, -phclose.
It will close the phone, but it's not advisable to close the phone because it introduces a minor incompatibility - trying to dial from the contacts app will cause problems. However, if you never do this, it'll save you a few 100k.
I've also written two apps specifically to close the phone, I think one if VJPhoneToggle or something.
Again, closing activesync is not advisable because if you're connected through GPRS/Wifi etc, it'll hangup your connection. In most use the app will be hidden from view anyway. VJOkButt ignores ActiveSync.
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I got my PDA2K two weeks ago. The internal phone application is
a joke, not much human engineering in it.
I'm already spent hours and hours in the search for the ONE program
that will replace this miserable internal phone application that comes
with the PDA2K.
It seems they are all far from perfect, although combining them
would probably make up for a complete good solution.
I also have Pocket Informant.
The replaceemnt either do not log the stuff in pocket informant as well.
The PDA2K also contains the internal Photo Contacts application
that some 3rd parties are replacing with a worse one.
Then you have the PocketZenPhone which is good in itself.
It seems you need like 10 different phone softwares to work
right with the PDA2K.
so far I tried PhonePlus from mesoftware.biz, the interllidialer (with no
success) and the interllipad (which showed a new keyboard like
input method but cliking on it didn't do much). I also need it in English.
Any help would be MORE than appreciated.. And I 'm also going to
Donate for this site which is HEAVEN!
The Intellidialer shouuld be a good sulution, if you run SE
Maybe you forgot to reset after installing it?
At least it gives you better access to your contacts.
well i was able to install the intellidialer (it's the intellipad that was installed with no change). anyway, the intellidialer is better than the internal app but a far cry from being called good. the finding of the contacts is too small to operate by one hand. If you try the PhonePlus2 you will know what I mean, the buttons on the later app for the quick lookup of names are much bigger and placed better suited for one hand operation.
What you need is fingerclix
http://www.imaginet-software.com/index.aspx?p=fingerclix_en
you could try potala telly
some nice features
very fancy interface
a bit slow at time though
Am I missing something here? What's wrong with hitting the contacts hardware button, press and hold down on the D pad until the first letter of the contact name appears, select the contact, select the number and you're done? It takes about five seconds to dial any number in my contacts list with just one hand.
I assume there must be more to your question but I don't see what?
I have over 1000 contacts and thats just not practical
Have you tried using CONTACTBREEZE to dial with? SBSH have added features for those of us with Pocket PC Phones.
My wife and I both now have WM phones (mine is a Tilt 2, hers a Pure) and we don't want to spend money on text messages to each other, since each text message would count twice... once for her receiving and once for me sending. (on a pay per use plan it would be $0.40 each!).
I was looking for other options. Push email is o.k. but often times there can be a minute or more delay, and my early tests of push gmail are not producing any confidence that it would push reliably.
So then I was thinking IM. It looks like IM programs would be battery hogs, and have to stay running in the background, and could easily be accidentally closed. Also, when the phone goes to sleep it seems like they then switch you to "offline".
So am I missing something? What are my sms like, non sms options?
Also does anyone have any small programs that would set up a auto-soft reset on a repeating schedule, it would be great if I could start the morning with a fresh phone. Thanks.
boufa said:
My wife and I both now have WM phones (mine is a Tilt 2, hers a Pure) and we don't want to spend money on text messages to each other, since each text message would count twice... once for her receiving and once for me sending. (on a pay per use plan it would be $0.40 each!).
I was looking for other options. Push email is o.k. but often times there can be a minute or more delay, and my early tests of push gmail are not producing any confidence that it would push reliably.
So then I was thinking IM. It looks like IM programs would be battery hogs, and have to stay running in the background, and could easily be accidentally closed. Also, when the phone goes to sleep it seems like they then switch you to "offline".
So am I missing something? What are my sms like, non sms options?
Also does anyone have any small programs that would set up a auto-soft reset on a repeating schedule, it would be great if I could start the morning with a fresh phone. Thanks.
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Yes, any non-sms messaging app for your phone would obviously use data (3G or EDGE connection) to communicate, and would need to be left on all the time to be able to receive incoming messages and notify you in real-time...so battery drain would be in direct proportion to that.
The best solution I've ever seen for that is Palringo, a free IM-integrator app that can connect you through most of the common IM networks (yahoo, AIM, Google talk, etc), or just direct through it's own (if I remember correctly)...meaning that as long as you and she both have the palringo client installed, you don't necessarily have to use any of those services to be able to IM each other. It's also free, and I seem to recall that it can be set (but isn't by default) to stay connected even when the phone goes to sleep, but don't quote me on that part.
It would be great if one of these programs had a "listening" service that would run in the background and then notify you of the "call" similar to an email.
I have seen a few online, (my research has just begun) that indicates "push notifications". Sound interesting, the data connection would remain active all the time that does not bother me.
I seem to have lost the setting to switch the "x" button from close to minimize. That would solve the issue with accidental closing the program. It would have to be managed via the task manager.. no biggy.. and then if I can find a soft reset scheduler it would keep the open programs from overwhelming the phone.
boufa said:
It would be great if one of these programs had a "listening" service that would run in the background and then notify you of the "call" similar to an email.
I have seen a few online, (my research has just begun) that indicates "push notifications". Sound interesting, the data connection would remain active all the time that does not bother me.
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If you'll find one, please let me know
lost the setting to switch the "x" button from close to minimize.
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it's the other way around. default for winmo is minimize, there is
an htc bundled app called taskman. it's in settings - task manager which is making apps close when you click X
plenty of other apps can change that too
and then if I can find a soft reset scheduler it would keep the open programs from overwhelming the phone.
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i made myself app doing change on backlight settings every morning and evening, I changed it for you to do reset
give it a try tell me if it's working for you and if error will pop up let me know what's it saying, at least line number
Well I got my hands on the most advanced operating system
It is nice but a bit annoying unfortunately. I have some questions about it guys and hope you will be able to help me.
For starters the Gmail app is crashing all the time 'stopped unexpectedly', maybe because I told it not to sync, but come on I can't even open it. I use the exchange and if I tell gmail to sync I just get my emails twice which is annoying.
For some reason the thing decided that I want my facebook contacts in my dialer. Unfortunately I don't. When I linked them to some real people it named them however it wanted without giving me the option to rename my own contacts. And I don't want facebook contacts in all people. So I factory reset it and told it not to sync them, but then I can't associate my actual contacts with facebook. I mean the fracking thing wants to do what it wants and I want it to do what I want .
Can I have more screens on sense - like in winmo sense?
Then I don't have a simple file browser, why , the BT file transfer is not working, or just not available, no mp3 for ringtone or I missed something, my 6 and a half year old crap symbian nokia has both bt and mp3?
I can't seem to make it auto attach to the HSDPA network, don't know why, no such setting
Why does all the software makes folders wherever it wants, all over the sd card, without even bothering to ask my opinion
I installed 3-4 apps including the missing file browser and bt transfer, plus some more basic stuff sat nav and now I'm running out of space, why
Don't get me wrong, android is alright, I didn't wrote here to bash it or something, just to share another thing below
Ever since the dream came out I read what a great os android is, now I get it 3 years later and I find it lacks some basic functionality I had many years ago on my crap symbian. I was with winmo the past 4 years, it has flaws, but it's mail client hasn't crashed once, and I can't even open Gmail app on Google OS. I can't even imagine what was the expirience for the dream owners. The other thing, I am not a programmer, but I have used linux before, and calling this thing linux is like if I call my house a skyscraper.
Anyway if someone has a solution for my problems I will be really grateful guys
Ok I'll kick this off:
Gmail app crashes - Well mine doesn't and never has if you have factory reset and its still doing it then maybe try looking to see if it a problem with using exchange at the same time.
More Screens - The desire has 7 home screens 2 to the left and 2 to the right which can be viewed by swiping left and right, pinching the screen as in a zoom out method or pressing the home button.
No File browser - yeah your right install Astro
No Auto HSDDPA - Not sure about this as mine just does any more info?
Random FOlders - Yeah this is very annoying maybe version 3 will address this
Lack of Space - the phone has limited internal storage and all appds install to it. Version 2.2 is now being rolled out which allows installation to the SD card which will give more room. The Sat nav stuff is huge and will be why you are running out so quick. That along with the carp the network operator has shoved on there so debrand asap.
Its not linux - you're right its based on it though. A full blown linux install would frighten most ppl though so they have installed a nice UI to cover up the complex stuff.
Thanks
The gmail app crashed less (1 of 3 times) if I actually synced mail with it and every time if I sync only contacts
I know about the 7 screens, just wished for more -10 for instance, I've been using smartphones for quite a while
Hsdpa can be on or off, it can't be off and then connect by itself if something needs it.
Its weird but 3 mobile didn't put any crap inside, or at least it is not in the apps part. Actually I had to download the crap by myself as it was skype, which I wanted to have anyway
I am still unsure about rooting it, as it looks like I won't be able to achieve much, alright I'll have a terminal, but I need to use it for something
The device says it has 147MB for software, sat nav 2x11-12MB + crap on sd card, some other minor stuff - file explorer, bt transfer, taskmanager, dictionary with database on sd, goggles haven't tried it yet, flashlight, skype, win messenger, google earth and it's at 75%
hope this helps and thanks again for the advice
Hi Again I am stuck on the gmail issue and unfortunately there are only 7 home screens.
You may try Data On Demand app that may do something like what you need for the data.
I wouldn't bother with rooting as like you say its not really necessary and has few advantages other than backup.
I know Google earth is huge but it does appear like you should only of used around 60 to 70 Meg or 50% from the stuff you list Mind you I think a lot of the system apps like weather etc may use some of that memory but cant be uninstalled but I could be wrong on this.
If you're going to get the best out of this phone you have to give in to google.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Yeah, thanks, in programs there is the data consumption of all apps, surprisingly, the browser has used 7,84MB of max allowed 6MB cache, now I know what's wrong with the space
Do you have any idea about the contacts+facebook issue? For example a .conf I can edit or something else
Btw I knew about these issues in 1.5 (bt,storage,file explorer), but I tought they were fixed over 3 years. I haven't read much about them, except how great android was and now i feel like a kid without icecream
@Mark One - What do you mean by this, if I wanted a device which did what it wanted, I would have bought an istick. Linux has always been doing what I told it even if it lead it to crash. It's just a phone if I don't get along with it I'll just get another one.
Err the facebook issue I dont have cos i dont use it but I do know that if you press phone and press the option on the bottom left to show all people then you can press the menu key which allows the selection of the "View" option where you can set "only show contacts with phone numbers" maybe this will help?
Froyo or version 2.2 of android has just been released which addresses the storage problem but not the others
I found this, it ditches most of the FB contacts, but leaves the ones which have phone numbers entered in their profiles, that is in the dialer only. I'll keep digging on this one.
Alright, I rooted the thing with unrevoked and the hboot 0.83 recovery image, installed froyo open desire sense + 5.xx radio. Unfortunately everything is the same, only skype is not working now. I formated the sdcard but the thing only lets me move a couple of small apps on it. Sat nav doesn't want to be on the sd, is this only me?
My mobile network is blocking sites with xxx content, unfortunately it is blocking some which don't have. I tried to change the user agent of the browser, it didn't work. If anyone has any idea about this
Now I debranded and rooted what do I do next
So I've been browsing the forums trying to figure out the fastest setup for my dash. I understand its becoming a very outdated phone but I still like its look and feel compared to some new ones.
I currently use the latest 3v0 and I'm very happy with the look and everything. I have some lag issues with it though, it starts running really choppy and anything I do starts locking it up. I mainly txt and make calls and even that can become a chore. Any suggestions on a faster setup for basicly just calls and txting? Or maybe some things to tweak without overclocking. I've tried overclocking and didnt notice any difference really.
Tell me if I am correct in assumming that you don't clear out your text messages often...
I don't clear out my text messages practically ever, and that kills my phone. In that respect, it has to do with tmail.exe. I believe that each time you open/close a thread of messages, it opens the ENTIRE database of messages related to that thread, and SAVES the entire thread of messages to the database (respectively). Its sort of a hassle, since I have had threads with friends that span on hundreds of messages, and it locks up my phone every time...
As far as a fast setup, i have 3VO (most recent) with the clock speed set to 240. Extended battery to compensate for overclocking (and then some) and minimal extra apps installed. I find that Windows Mobile is just like any other version of windows, it slows down after a while for some reason or another, so I find myself doing backups and Hard Resets often (Every couple of months) to keep the speed up. Its a hassle, but i've gotten it down to a science hehe.
Yeah I have a bad habit of doing that with my texts as well. I try to keep it cleared out anymore cause I've noticed how bad it gets. Is there any way to fix that? Or is it just something to live with cause of WM? I could see the whole hard reset thing, might have to try that.
Edit: So after posting this I looked at your sig and noticed Cmail I'm reading your post currently and about to try it. Does it avoid the issue you were speaking of?
No, it does not. CMail is a Command-line SMS sender. that is all it is.
HOWEVER...and I am only posting this here for the time being, I am researching the following:
1) C++ XML Libraries
2) C++ Multi-Threading
3) C++ Advanced GUIs
The three are going to come together in, what I hope to be, a full replacement to tMail.exe . I am sick and tired of the issues with it...slowing down the ROM, slow loading times, locking up the ROM, randomly deleting messages (when it locks up the ROM), not scrolling correctly in Threaded mode, etc. etc. etc. I am probably going to re-make tmail, and try to avoid the CE MAPI. All messages will be kept in XML files, free for people to copy to their computers. Hopefully I can make an improvement there. (The only downside would be that I am probably going to try to not use CE MAPI, as I find it to be a mess, and apps with dependencies to CE MAPI will have issues). I will probably fix this up by simply having my program mark messages read in the CE MAPI database, and handle everything else by itself. It'll be a tough project, but if it gets support, then I am sure it will take off
Well that sounds like a big task, but would deffinitely make things work better. I guess for now I'll deal with it. Sadly I'll probably get a new phone before something like that comes out. In the mean time I'll deal with my text messaging chop shop.
Hi Guys,
Let me start by saying this is my first Android phone, and I'm loving it. I do have some questions I can't seem to find solutions for.
Some apps don't seem to offer you the option to select/unselect run on startup. I'll check under settings>apps>running and won't see them listed, yet if I say shake the phone(way to activate app) it starts up. So is the app running or not? I'm basically looking for the windows msconfig version on the GN. A way to know for certain that apps aren't running if you don't start them up yourself.
Secondly, on my previous old nokia, when I opened an app (or anything wanting to go out) it would prompt me for permission to access the net. I would like to be able to control via user intervention access to the net. Like the old zonealarm for pc's.
And lastly, it would seem they have overlooked some of the fundamentals of mobile/cell phones. I loved the options to set ascending and descending or beep once ring tones, to stop push services at night so you're not receiving updates at 3am, to stop all none essential services by default if your battery hits x%, and many more basic yet what I would say essential services for a phone. I know that some apps cover some of these things. I've found an app to turn of volume after X time, but really... this should be core services built into ICS imho.
Cheers in advance,
Droid wall lets you decide what apps get internet access if you are rooted.
Autostarts will let you see what conditions an app starts under and disable the app from starting if that condition is met (if you so choose).