Radio Update for Telsta A8183 - Desire General

Hi,
Are the Telstra Desire able to work with the newest 5.09 Radio?
is 3g internet and everything else still working after the update is applied? Will a SIMlock occur?
What are the advantages with this update?
Can we go back to previous radios by simply reflashing the radio?
I'm looking at Flashing a Froyo ROM and want to make sure that I don't brick my Desire in trying to do so.
Thanks

Mine's been working perfectly fine on the new Radio and Official Froyo (Without hboot) using nickiberli's ROM since about 30 minutes after it was uploaded.
I've been backwards and forwards and all over the place using other ROMs too, and have always been able to RUU flash it back to the stock Telstra 2.1 and re-root from scratch.
BTW: No SIMLock, and 3G/Wifi/GPS/Bluetooth all work as they did pre-2.2 and the new radio.

Sounds good. Which version of the Radio did you use?
Do you know if there are problems accessing the Telstra web pages and checking your accounts online as I have read that it may not work due to not having the useragent string?
Thanks for your help

jrc91 said:
Sounds good. Which version of the Radio did you use?
Do you know if there are problems accessing the Telstra web pages and checking your accounts online as I have read that it may not work due to not having the useragent string?
Thanks for your help
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Unless your phone is rooted you should be fine. There is a fix on the Modaco forums to replace the user strings in custom roms with the correct Telstra ones.
I can't confirm if it works as I've never used it (can't stand the Telstra crapware myself) but would be worth a shot
EDIT: Almost forgot, I'm currently using 5.09.00.20. 5.08.00.04 also worked fine.

Stewge said:
Unless your phone is rooted you should be fine. There is a fix on the Modaco forums to replace the user strings in custom roms with the correct Telstra ones.
I can't confirm if it works as I've never used it (can't stand the Telstra crapware myself) but would be worth a shot
EDIT: Almost forgot, I'm currently using 5.09.00.20. 5.08.00.04 also worked fine.
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The Telstra Strings I only need for online billing, otherwise just accessing the telstra website apparently charges.
Are there problems if you have or are planning to Root the phone? Currently it is not rooted, but if i try going to a FROYO ROM i will need to. Will this cause problems?
Thanks

jrc91 said:
Sounds good. Which version of the Radio did you use?
Do you know if there are problems accessing the Telstra web pages and checking your accounts online as I have read that it may not work due to not having the useragent string?
Thanks for your help
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I use 5.09.00.20 as well with no hassles.
Personally I don't care about the Telstra web pages as I use none of them, so I wouldn't know (I even removed all links and references to them in my stock ROM via ADB). I'm assuming they won't work due to said useragent string missing.
Otherwise, as Stewage says, there's a fix floating around somewhere for it if it's that important to you.

jrc91 said:
The Telstra Strings I only need for online billing, otherwise just accessing the telstra website apparently charges.
Are there problems if you have or are planning to Root the phone? Currently it is not rooted, but if i try going to a FROYO ROM i will need to. Will this cause problems?
Thanks
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The problem that arises is basically just the useragent string not being in non-Telstra ROMs (Which you'll be using if you root and install Froyo). At least this is the impression I get, I haven't had ANY issues otherwise, and I've been rooted since about 3 days after I got the phone.

ok...
So if i flash the Radio to 5.09 then root, then flash to FROYO i shouldn't have any problems other than anything that deals with Telstra and needing to update APN

Found this rom over on the modaco forums:
http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/314372/telstramod2-2-2-sense-720p/
Looks like it's based on Leedroid and Pauls roms (both Froyo) and with the Telstra strings modded in. I'd give that a crack to see if your Telstra stuff still works

yeah im using the latest radio from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687464
and the latest opendesire rom from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712615
works fine!

you can still check your usage without the strings, just means it will count towards your data usage instead of being unmetered, but really not that big of a deal unless you're signed up to the foxtel mobile crap

OK.
One final thing. When you flash the radio do you have to use Paul's R5 tools, or can you use ROM Manager (Clockwork) to flash the radio?
Thanks
P.S. Sorry for asking all the N00b questions

There is a custome leedroid Telstra specific mod available here:
t-mod.org
full instructions here:
t-mod.org/?page_id=11

jrc91 said:
OK.
One final thing. When you flash the radio do you have to use Paul's R5 tools, or can you use ROM Manager (Clockwork) to flash the radio?
Thanks
P.S. Sorry for asking all the N00b questions
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You can use clockworkmod or Amon RA recovery to flash the radio the same way you flash the custom roms

not sure if i am resurrecting a dead thread, but i thought it would be worthwhile getting the opinions of people with the Telstra Desire (A8183 model) on what radios are best for making sure that we get on the 850mhz (NextG) rather than the crappy 2100mhz (3Telstra) band... I noticed that my phone spends more time on 3Telstra than my wife's does as her phone has the Telstra Rom on it (presume that means that radio and RIL too) and so her phone gets speeds about 400kb/s while mine sits next to it getting 100kb/s...
Any ideas??

Related

Quick How-To for gps/rev a flash/upgrade

ok well i just made up this list a while ago to help someone out, and have ended up giving it to quite a few ppl now, so i figured i might as well post it here under an appropriate title for all to easily see and access.
i know dharvey wrote a great tutorial, and that there are prob others, but..what the heck. plus this is pretty quick and easy, though i cant say that it is as full and thought out and great as dharvey4651's (thx man!)...
IMPORTANT!!! ONLY SPRINT users follow below steps 5 and 8-11!! Altell users can follow all the steps except step 5 as long as they use a different ppst.exe, not the one mentioned below.
"#1- Backup all pim info and anything else you might want.
#2- Ensure you are currently running your carriers original official oem rom (os and radio) (if you have never flashed it at all then dont worry youre good to go).
#3- Unlock using imcokemans 2.31 unlocker (this for gps roms)
#4- run the sprint leaked rom.exe (here, close to the bottom where it says "original rom")
#5- SPRINT ONLY:allow all customizations to complete and run (i know - it takes a lil while)
#6- flash to desired rom.
#7- after she's all booted up, hard-reset.
#8- download and run cab from here (altell users run your own ppst stuff on the same post, non-sprint and non-altell users SKIP TO STEP 12): http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=282955&postcount=139
#9- allow soft-rest.
#10- navigate to \windows folder and run ppst.exe
#11- allow soft reset.
#12- allow boot-up, customize, restore pim info etc...
credit to boggsie"
didnt use unlocker
I just ran the leaked ROM upgrade. It found my phone and flashed it. I never ran any of the SPL unlockers. Should I be worried about not being able to unlock later, or have trouble flashing an 'Official' release?
d1rtyd33z said:
I just ran the leaked ROM upgrade. It found my phone and flashed it. I never ran any of the SPL unlockers. Should I be worried about not being able to unlock later, or have trouble flashing an 'Official' release?
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hey nope you'll be just fine, assuming that you arent going to flash to a custom rom. what is your current spl? you just will not be able to flash a custom rom until you unlock.
what happened to the link for the leaked rom ????
avalanchedude said:
what happened to the link for the leaked rom ????
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oops lol must not have copied over quite right and how i wanted...updated first post
thanks.
HI i have been reading alot on this new rom, will this work on bell and also is there a way to "backup" the current bell rom so that way we can "undo" what we have done to get back to original in case we ever need to? thanks again for everyones hard work.
hi all .....im newbie...using htc touch 2nd gen.... how to unlock the gps in my fon???
Hi All. I just recieved my touch last week and like the phone alot. I have flshed my old phone ( old I-mate PDA) a few times with files from here and it worked great.
But with the Touch you guys are talking about different kinds of touch phones. Where do I check what kind do I have. I am from South Africa and use MTN as my SP.
Will I be able to use the GPS ( Seen it in other threads)
Thank you for your help
Beast
how can I backup my phone?
I never flashed it before, its a Sprint Touch 2007 October.
A50SNAKE said:
HI i have been reading alot on this new rom, will this work on bell and also is there a way to "backup" the current bell rom so that way we can "undo" what we have done to get back to original in case we ever need to? thanks again for everyones hard work.
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check on the ppcgeeks ftp, im pretty sure the stock bell rom/radio has been placed somewhere there.
jhanz said:
hi all .....im newbie...using htc touch 2nd gen.... how to unlock the gps in my fon???
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just read my post! so who is your carrier? when you say 2nd gen, it makes me think your touch is gsm...is that the case?
Da_Beast said:
Hi All. I just recieved my touch last week and like the phone alot. I have flshed my old phone ( old I-mate PDA) a few times with files from here and it worked great.
But with the Touch you guys are talking about different kinds of touch phones. Where do I check what kind do I have. I am from South Africa and use MTN as my SP.
Will I be able to use the GPS ( Seen it in other threads)
Thank you for your help
Beast
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im....not really sure. being on a different continent i dont think it would work the same, unless you were able to find a separate radio only rom for your carrier, in which case you could flash whatever rom you wanted (w/o letting the cusomizations run on first boot), then flash your carriers os only rom, then be good to go!
yrsmart said:
how can I backup my phone?
I never flashed it before, its a Sprint Touch 2007 October.
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what exactly are you trying to back up?
jim256 said:
what exactly are you trying to back up?
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contacts, my documents and appz if possible
yrsmart said:
contacts, my documents and appz if possible
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google and download pim backup
actually...you could just synchronize with active sync, and have it sync your contacts, calendar, and files?
new PPST direct link
This post should be a sticky!!!!
This works perfectly except for the fact that the link to ppcgeeks on #8 is busted. What is missing from that link is the file for ppst.exe. I beat my brains in trying to get the stupid gps to work before I finally realized what was missing from my install.
Here is the PPST file from sprint that you do in fact need to make the gps work great. I lock onto the gps sats in about 15 seconds, in my house, to about 9 of em.
http://www.box.net/shared/static/jk3xpkwwg0.zip
flashing cmda phone different from gsm?
Hi All,
I just got my new sprint vogue to replace my t-mobile wizard. I flashed my wizard extensively over the past 2 years but I'm not sure about the Vogue. How does a cmda phone retain its network settings and network contact info if it is flashed when theres no sim card? I'm not talking about PIM info but the info the phone uses to identify itself and communicate with the network.
thanks
Lotus
This worked great. It was my first time flashing and following these instructions everything worked out well and I get locked into satellites with the gps very fast. Thank you.
i have a couple questions. 1st is i have a sprint touch flashed to cricket if i were to install this rom will all my cricket settings stay intact or will i have to reflash to cricket? 2nd does this rom include WM6.1 along with gps, and rev. A?
thanks for any help.
lehrfeld said:
Hi All,
I just got my new sprint vogue to replace my t-mobile wizard. I flashed my wizard extensively over the past 2 years but I'm not sure about the Vogue. How does a cmda phone retain its network settings and network contact info if it is flashed when theres no sim card? I'm not talking about PIM info but the info the phone uses to identify itself and communicate with the network.
thanks
Lotus
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i must say that im not exactly sure how. but i can say that...it just does. if you flash a different radio rom...then you can be in trouble if it is not for your carrier. but we are discussing os only roms here and the network settings are therefore not really affected
and ps for you too, dont allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be run, unless you are sure they are for your carrier
SLCpunk69 said:
i have a couple questions. 1st is i have a sprint touch flashed to cricket if i were to install this rom will all my cricket settings stay intact or will i have to reflash to cricket? 2nd does this rom include WM6.1 along with gps, and rev. A?
thanks for any help.
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ok so..no specific rom is being discussed here. this is just a how-to for what/e rom you want.
and no you should not have to re-flash to cricket as long as you only flash an os-only rom, a rom that does not have a radio included, and you never allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be executed.
but most all the roms that you can flash using these instructions do have 6.1 with gps and rev a yes
BigRed Productions said:
This post should be a sticky!!!!
This works perfectly except for the fact that the link to ppcgeeks on #8 is busted. What is missing from that link is the file for ppst.exe. I beat my brains in trying to get the stupid gps to work before I finally realized what was missing from my install.
Here is the PPST file from sprint that you do in fact need to make the gps work great. I lock onto the gps sats in about 15 seconds, in my house, to about 9 of em.
http://www.box.net/shared/static/jk3xpkwwg0.zip
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thanks for pointing out the borken link
link fixed/first post slightly updated.
jim256 said:
i must say that im not exactly sure how. but i can say that...it just does. if you flash a different radio rom...then you can be in trouble if it is not for your carrier. but we are discussing os only roms here and the network settings are therefore not really affected
and ps for you too, dont allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be run, unless you are sure they are for your carrier
ok so..no specific rom is being discussed here. this is just a how-to for what/e rom you want.
and no you should not have to re-flash to cricket as long as you only flash an os-only rom, a rom that does not have a radio included, and you never allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be executed.
but most all the roms that you can flash using these instructions do have 6.1 with gps and rev a yes
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ok so what if i wanted to use a custom rom made using the leaked sprint rom that has the MMS program included i should be fine as long as no "ppst.exe" file run during the install?
thanks for the help
HELP: when i try to load the v3[1].02.rar it asks for a password?????
if i use spb backup to restore in the last step, will that screw things up, since it reinstalls programs, etc as well????

Telstra branded diamond changing to different rom

I have a Touch Diamond branded by telstra after reading looking through the forum for a while I can't find an answer to a perplexing question ....
Has anyone tried to change the rom on a telstra branded TD to the vodafone rom?
Or has anyone changed to a custom rom with a telstra branded and to what success?
Thanks everyone in advance for help.
While I haven't tried the Vodaphone Rom I have tried a number of other ROM's Dutty's, Swifts, Panosha's Simple, and now Hikari ( i don't like the Tf3d). All have worked well on the Telstra Network. I can't see why it won't work on the Vodaphone network. My nephew's work fine on the Optus network.
To be really honest the only extra functionality you will gain from the Vodafone ROM is the Vodafone specific software and the theme.
If it's just the theme you are after I suggest browsing this forum for one.
Alternatively if you're after the Vodafone ROM for Vodafone SIM... I'd skip that and jump straight onto one of the custom ROMs. The phone performance is a HEAP better than any of the telecommunication company's stock ROMs.
Food for thought.
Im on NextG with Telstra and i have tried nearly every rom here except vodafone.. but the only one flaw with using a unbranded telstra rom is being able to access bigpond.. like with foxtel and all that.. just doesnt pick it up as being a 3.5G phone.
i dunno why.. but i have just put it back to telstra rom and modded it completely myself. if i knew how to take like an image of it i would and post it up here but i wouldnt know one thing about cooking roms lol
I have a Telstra branded Diamond and am using it with an Optus SIM.
When I first got the phone I couldn't get it to accept the Optus settings for Internet access.
So... I upgraded it to one of the cooked ROMS. (Dia Duit and Duttys were tried)
Since then I haven't gone back to the standard ROM and enjoy the better performance.
loki429 said:
I have a Telstra branded Diamond and am using it with an Optus SIM.
When I first got the phone I couldn't get it to accept the Optus settings for Internet access.
So... I upgraded it to one of the cooked ROMS. (Dia Duit and Duttys were tried)
Since then I haven't gone back to the standard ROM and enjoy the better performance.
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Did you run Connection Setups? I got my Voda and Optus to work. Try again.
luckyluke1137 said:
Im on NextG with Telstra and i have tried nearly every rom here except vodafone.. but the only one flaw with using a unbranded telstra rom is being able to access bigpond.. like with foxtel and all that.. just doesnt pick it up as being a 3.5G phone.
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If you're talking about the Bigpong 'free to browse' page being different the all you need is to change the 'custom user agent' setting in Opera... see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2688822&postcount=260
But anyway... to answer the OP, I've flashed a stack of ROMs from here and am currently happy with CT's latest (HD version). Just remember to keep the original specs (Radio & ROM version no.s) in case you need to revert for warranty.
thanks for all the help
thanks for all your comments
I bought the touch diamond second hand, and didn't realise till after I'd parted with the money it was branded (HUGE newbie mistake) but I haven't bought a new phone for 6 years since I got the Nokia 6620.
I use a vodafone sim, and have it working pretty well, just the last lot of telstra locked stuff annoys me. Thanks to this fantastic forum I have been able to change and unlock most of it. Biggest thing is some things just won't work on it, because the current Telstra rom is 1.38.841.5 (vodafone rom is 1.96.XXX.X) and experience a fair share of the modding apps & cabs have problems or simply don't work.
I was thinking of the vodafone one simply because I'm with them. Also when I was first trying to unlock it talked to HTC and they said I couldn't use the vodafone rom on my telstra branded because the hardware in the telstra one is different to the vodafone one.
Thanks for the help, can anyone suggest the best custom rom, & what else do i need to change roms? I've got a bit of a IT background, just not with phones.
Really love this little phone, and I see potential for tf3d, but long way of modding to get it as I want it.
Thanks again everyone.
I have a similar question, thought I'd save wasting a new thread and post it here.
I've had a Telstra branded Diamond for a few months now, using it with a 3 Mobile SIM, and have had no worries until a couple of days ago, when I started roaming, and haven't been able to reconnect to the three mobile network since..
Any ideas??
The only question regarding Telstra branded Diamonds is returning to original SPL 1.38 for warranty reasons..
just one more thought
another question or two...
If I upgrade to another custom rom will I still have to unlock it after the hard reset?
I've been looking and think I've found the rom I want, but can't find a definitive link for hard spl. I've read the thread that everywhere directs me to and the links that I think are for the unsigned hardspl has the headind stock spls, or am I just misreading this.
Also does anyone know if CT 6.4 is signed or unsigned?
Guys - I understand the confusion surrounding upgrading and flashing ROMs as it was only recently I was in the same position.
So in an attempt to make it a little easier for those reading here I will pass on what has worked well for me...
1. Flash HardSPL as downloaded from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=93362&d=1213719705 (it's unsigned but don't worry about that... it saves headaches if you want my opinion)
2. Download the ROM of your choice (as stated earlier - my preference is currently CT's v6.4HD... fast, stable and HD, what more do you want?)
3. Once you have the ROM, extract the .nbh file and rename it to DIAMIMG.nbh and copy this to the root of your internal storage on your Diamond
4. If you're ready to flash (meaning you've backed up whatever you wanna save) then hold the vol down and back button and press the reset button together until you see the tri-colour screen... you're then in the bootloader
5. The phone will search for the .nbh file you placed in memory and ask you to press the power button to confirm you want to flash... obviously you want to do this so sit back while it flashes
6. Once done, reset the phone and perform a hard reset (this is recommended by most ppl although I haven't always done it and never had any issues)
Now enjoy setting your phone up with a custom ROM...
If you want more detail then I strongly suggest you search around and read... it takes time and effort but it's definitely worth it if you want to flash with confidence...
Cheers
not as easy
Sorry if anyone read this orginal post just getting jitters when something went wrong with hardspl flash.
But a soft reset later and its still works. But it raises the question if something bad happens when flashing the hardspl and bootloader doesn't work what can be done apart from throwing phone away?
I assume as long as the bootloader works you can manually redo incomplete rom install?
Something going wrong with hard spl install is my biggest worry, it was a nats ear from happening a little earlier so I'm asking these questions.
Oh & last thing with CT's 6.4 rom what is the real difference between original TF3d and HD? How is the increased screen resolution handled? Do you have to scroll down for the area I cant see, or is it cut off so you can not access it, or is it squished to fit the smaller resolution?
Greenion said:
Sorry if anyone read this orginal post just getting jitters when something went wrong with hardspl flash.
But a soft reset later and its still works. But it raises the question if something bad happens when flashing the hardspl and bootloader doesn't work what can be done apart from throwing phone away?
I assume as long as the bootloader works you can manually redo incomplete rom install?
Something going wrong with hard spl install is my biggest worry, it was a nats ear from happening a little earlier so I'm asking these questions.
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As long as you can access the bootloader you should be able to sort out the phone... personally I've never had an issue with flashing (and on average I've flashed my two Diamonds (a 130 and 100) an easy 30-40 times).
My preference with flashing is to do it from the internal storage (seems the most logical in terms of reliability - and is also by far the fastest) but I'm not sure if HardSPL can be done that way - if it is possible I'd be strongly recommending it - USB connections are just too dicey for something that serious.
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Also does anyone know if CT 6.4 is signed or unsigned?
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I have the OliNex 1.4 hard spl and I can flash CT's ROM without any problem.
done
Well it done.
A little easier than I was expecting but just as concerning, but over now.
Finally went with CT's 6.4 Original, I can always change to the HD or just add one of the HD add ons.
Everything is running smooth and well. Finally all the testra crap is gone.
Thanks to everyone for their help and kind advice.
This is a GREAT forum, its been a fantastic help and resource.
Till next time
How do you flash the new 2.03 ROM? I have tried with the executable from HTC and it gives me an invalid ID error.
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As long as you can access the bootloader you should be able to sort out the phone... personally I've never had an issue with flashing (and on average I've flashed my two Diamonds (a 130 and 100) an easy 30-40 times).
My preference with flashing is to do it from the internal storage (seems the most logical in terms of reliability - and is also by far the fastest) but I'm not sure if HardSPL can be done that way - if it is possible I'd be strongly recommending it - USB connections are just too dicey for something that serious.
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Radio, Radio update explanation please

I have been happily flashing ROM's, creating a Goldcard for a couple of weeks since getting my Hero and have just done a Radio update. I just realised I have no idea what the Radio update actually does.
Could someone explain in fairly simple terms what it is all about, I guess I have cat blood and curiosity has got the better of me
Sure. The radio update flashes the software on the little 'chip' that deals with mobile network/GPS/WiFI/Bluetooth etc. (basically all communications).
The update changes the software to a newer version, which can give better signal and battery life (It's a bit like flashing a normal ROM, except it's only for the communications hardware or baseband as iPhone users call it).
For more info, see http://android.modaco.com/content/h...-update-zip-format-for-gsm-hero/#entry1059164 which also gives you a list of them
Thanks for the prompt reply and simple terms. I am almost getting to the stage where I am qualified to make a phone call
Ah, great, I was wondering about this too. Is there any difference which radio rom you flash apart from GSM/CDMA? (My Hero has a suspicious "EU" in it which the roms I've seen online have not. Might just be some versioning, but then again it might be "europe"...)
How do you update your radio? Do you have to wipe?
EU doesnt mean europe, it is a way of identifying the radio version, like there is JU, JH, etc.
I found this out from other sources in the mean while (and forgot about this thread; it's been a couple of weeks after all), but thanks for replying anyway, it'll surely help the next guy wondering.
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How do you update your radio? Do you have to wipe?
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In the link posted a few posts up, you'll find the radio updates in the update.zip format needed to update via recovery mode, like any other custom ROM flash to your phone. However, Radio updates are typically included in the official RUU updates as well, but those will obviously unroot your phone.
Aside from increasing battery life/signal strength, radio updates can bring bugfixes and features. Newer OS ROMs typically work best with the latest Radio ROMs. After I rooted, I had an "EU" radio on my Telus Hero, and I couldn't make long distance calls unless the phone number had a "+" in front of it in my contact list. Updating the radio fixed that. Hope this info helps.
yeah it helped
But i dont understand the order of updating. First i transfer the update of the ROM to the phone and call it update.zip and the flash that ROM. But then i have to boot up the phone, to transfer the new radio and boot that.
Can it be true that i have to boot the phone and then tranfer the new radio, and the go into bootloader and flash the new update.zip?
torstenk said:
yeah it helped
But i dont understand the order of updating. First i transfer the update of the ROM to the phone and call it update.zip and the flash that ROM. But then i have to boot up the phone, to transfer the new radio and boot that.
Can it be true that i have to boot the phone and then tranfer the new radio, and the go into bootloader and flash the new update.zip?
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OK. Well, the file doesn't *have* to be called update.zip. The recovery image has an option to choose a zip file, which makes things much much easier, as you can flash several files without rebooting, although I believe you have to reboot as part of the radio flash process. With this in mind, I would flash the OS update first, then the radio update. However, it really doesn't matter what order you flash them in. While the OS and radio rely on each other for the phone to operate properly, they are completely separate and individual from a flashing standpoint. They both get flashed in the exact same way from the recovery image, however with the radio, rebooting the phone is a necessary part of the process. If you were (for some dumb reason) to flash the radio and then remove the battery before the phone had completely rebooted, you'd end up with a broken (and possibly bricked) phone.
I wouldn't flash a radio without having an os installed, so if you have wiped then flash an os first. Just to make sure everything goes smooth.
A new radio file won't install until you do the first boot after installing which from memory is forced on you, so you will want to have a rom installed.
Thanks for the information about radio, quite useful. I have tried several ROMs lately but haven´t touched the radio yet. I guess if update to more recent one can improve battery and signal as it has been mentioned before.
I will try and see how my Hero behaves
jsampedro said:
Thanks for the information about radio, quite useful. I have tried several ROMs lately but haven´t touched the radio yet. I guess if update to more recent one can improve battery and signal as it has been mentioned before.
I will try and see how my Hero behaves
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Yeah once again just make sure you install the radio for your phone type.
E.g. GSM (I am guessing as you are on this forum and not he sprint one)
Lennyuk said:
Yeah once again just make sure you install the radio for your phone type.
E.g. GSM (I am guessing as you are on this forum and not he sprint one)
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So basically you just have to watch out if the radio is for GSM or CDMA and then you are good to go?
alpha124 said:
So basically you just have to watch out if the radio is for GSM or CDMA and then you are good to go?
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Yes
And don't panic when it takes up to 5 mins to boot first time.
Radio update
HI ALL
please ,if i flah the radio , i loste des root ?.
And please wish methode to flash wihtout lost the root
PS:I have the hero
thanks for help
flashing radio doesn't do anything to the rom, you won't lose your root.
thanks Lennyuk,
Please you confirm that if i flash only the radio ,the root is not pacted ?
Sorry for my bad english and my bad request

Please Help Wifi Not working after 1.21.405.2

Ok the other day i decided to get rid of the orange rom from my HTC Desire so i created a goldcard flashed the testruu.exe file then i rooted my phone. yesterday i decided to unroot it and reflash the htc generic rom. all was working perfect then today i checked for ota update. there was one ready to download so i got it installed and it was working fine. ive just got home from work now and my wifi says unable to start under settings. dont know how its happened
Any ideas how to fix this.
Thanks in advance.
p.s.
please dont tell me ive got to flash my phone again otherwise i will get all my friends iphones to rape the desire right up the usb slot
you could try doing a manual update using the RUU 1.21.405.2 in the dev forum. I used that and I have no wi-fi problems...
Funny, the other reports of broken wi-fi I've read seem to be from people who had previously rooted their phones too...
Is there no other way around this other than flashing the rom?
Doubt it, but it's pretty soon after the official roll-out. Give it time and somebody might figure something out.
tuatha said:
Funny, the other reports of broken wi-fi I've read seem to be from people who had previously rooted their phones too...
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Mine has never been rooted and I have the same wi-fi problem after the 1.21.405.2 update.
Not so funny then, I guess.
Try flashing with this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684259
It's the same update... but it works. At least, it worked on mine and many others. It will wipe everything so make sure to back up first.
Same here...Never rooted, but I did de-brand with a generic ROM using a GoldCard. Can't start Wi-Fi.
Does anyone know if T-Mobile customers with the stock T-Mobile ROM have received this update?
Hello. Exactly same problem for me: Orange France ROM flashed to official HTC, and after upgrade unrecognized wifi. It was never rooted.
How to be sure to have an official ROM ?
Thanks.
Ok, so it's not rooting, but we now have three people in this thread who have flashed to the generic rom and then updated, who now have broken wireless.
Teppic24 - how about you? Did you debrand your phone? Just curious. If that's the issue maybe we can warn people who have done the same...
Yes I did de-brand.
So basically, everybody in this thread who has wireless issues, de-branded their phone before applying the update?
There's a pattern here...
It's exactly the same for me. I debranded my French Orange HTC Desire with the official HTC Rom, and now no more Wifi
What's more, I have never rooted my Desire.
arrrrrrggggghhhh Help!
Just flashed it using the same 1.21.405.2 rom from the dev section and now its asking for sim network unlock pin
I put in my goldcard and booted to fastboot then with my phone connected to pc i ran the rom.exe and it installed booted up and now its asking for sim network unlock pin.
Any ideas plz
Thanks
Dion
Yeah, I don't know what exactly the issue is, but the debranding does seem to be the culprit (so far, anyway)
As mentioned previously, you can probably fix it by flashing your Desire with the rom linked in the first post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684259
It's an official release. It will wipe everything, so make sure to back up first.
tuatha said:
Yeah, I don't know what exactly the issue is, but the debranding does seem to be the culprit (so far, anyway)
As mentioned previously, you can probably fix it by flashing your Desire with the rom linked in the first post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684259
It's an official release. It will wipe everything, so make sure to back up first.
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I take it a Goldcard is still required to flash that, even for de-branded phones?
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I take it a Goldcard is still required to flash that, even for de-branded phones?
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Yep...and now I feel like a **** for leaving it lying around my overly tidy girlfriend who doesn't take care of what she's throwing out when she's gone all Monica for the day.
Well, I just plugged my phone in and opened the RUU on my pc. But my desire is a stock, unaltered model.
I don't know if it will be the same for you guys.
With my unabeled wifi, rebranded HTC rom after Orange, my base band version is:
32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11
In hope it helps...
It seems that there is no trouble with this one : 32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2.
If someone want to make a test ... and there an other one : 32.37.00.32U_4.06.00.16_2
Silly question probably, but I don't care:
Is it possible to flash only the baseband ?

HTC Desire loosing GPS signal in city

Hello everyone,
I bought HTC Desire few weeks ago - phone is fantastic but I have an issue: GPS signal is loosing in the city! On the open road everything work fine, GPS is very accurate and has fast response but in town... it's another story. As soon as I came between higher (10 stories) buildings my phone looses GPS signal.
What can be done? Is there any way to hack software so phone could use signals under 20%?
Thank you in advance,
Miljan
You could root the Desire and then try flashing a different radio version to improve GPS signal strength.
In the meantime, you can try the following:
1. Before you turn on the GPS, change to Airplane mode.
2. Start the GPS.
3. Start your nav app and let it get a signal.
4. Turn off Airplane mode.
Hey MasDroid,
thank you for this really fast reply!
I'll definitely try second method you suggested but either I'm software developer, I've never been in touch with android since now so I really don't know what is "different radio version"!? Can you point me to some site or forum where I can read about it?
Best regards,
Miljan
knyazs said:
Hey MasDroid,
thank you for this really fast reply!
I'll definitely try second method you suggested but either I'm software developer, I've never been in touch with android since now so I really don't know what is "different radio version"!? Can you point me to some site or forum where I can read about it?
Best regards,
Miljan
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Here is a link which explains the rooting procedure in more detail:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
Radio rom - The radio software sits between windows mobile and the hardware. It controls the hardware based on what you want to do. There are all kinds of reports of better/worse battery life, connection strength (including GPS and Wi-Fi), sound quality reception when flashing different to radio versions. You can find out your stock radio rom version on your phone by going to Settings > Abount Phone > Software Information. Check the baseband version - this is your current radio version.
Some roms (like the new Froyo with Sense UI) require specific radios (32.41.00.32U_5.08.00.04 or 32.42.00.32U_5.09.00.08), read the rom posts in the Desire Development section of the forum (http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=628) for more info
A list or available radio's are available here:
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687464
The roms that start with 4.x are generally based for Eclair 2.1 custom and generic roms, the ones that start with 5.x are for Froyo 2.2 roms.
Be careful is you are sim-locked (network-locked) to Orange - the newer Radio verions will network lock your phone after flashing (unless you flash back to stock Radio version or buy a network unlock code). There are reports that the newest Froyo Radio rom (32.42.00.32U_5.09.00.08) does work on Orange even if sim-locked to their network.
Hope that helps you out!
Hey, thanks for this useful tips...
If I figure it out correctly, first I need to root (whatever this means and it's reversible) my phone and after that I can load Radio and Froyo... done in 4 hours I'm kiddin'
Procedure looks very complicated but with video it becames easy. My question is: can I restore factory defaults after any of these procedure(s)?
Thanks again!
Root gives you super user access to your phone, just a way to unlock it in order to flash roms and make further changes.
You create a Gold Card if your phone is branded first, then root, and flash a custom rom and radio, if necessary.
Yes, by flashing a rom, you are changing the device firmware. When you perform a hard reset/factory reset, your phone will resort back to factory settings of your current installed rom.
If you ever want to unroot your phone and to return to stock rom and radio, just flash the relevant RUU file.
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Nice explanation this time, I figure it out
How can you see if phone is branded? Is there any app or it can be seen somewhere else?
Thanks again mate, you are really helping me with this tips.
Bye
Yes, again, Go to Settings > About Phone > Software version. Check what the firmware version is - branded is x.xx.161.x, unbranded is x.xx.405.x.
You can also tell if your phone is branded by looking for any network carrier logos on bootup (i.e. Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile, etc) and pre-installed apps that have network branding.
If there is none and your firmware version is x.xx.405.x, then you will not need to create a Gold Card to bypass CID checks.
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Thanks again MasDroid,
my firmware version is 405 (unbranded)
Bye
Ok, take care... ciao!
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Don't all GPS lose signal when surrounded by high buildings? They rely on triangulation from satelites and if they can't see the sky ... well. My Tom Tom was terrible in London ....
Good point... i would imagine this would be the main cause to the OP's problem.
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