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Cingular 8525 ROM Flash

Hi all,
I am in the process of getting a Cingular 8525 after my old one was stolen. I am looking on ebay and see there are serveral 8525's for sale. One in particular has a TNT 2.0 ROM. From what I read it sounds very interesting and reliable.
I am very interested with the custom ROMs that can be installed on the phone. I have fully read the wiki help guide (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes) so I have a really well idea on how to do this. I only have a few questions hopefully I won't get flamed for.
1. Upgrading the rom is as easy as running the utility? Lets say I bought a phone that came with factory rom. I would just use the RUU follow the instructions and phone gets flashed?
2. I also read about a CIM Unlocker which leads me to my next questions. I really don't need the SIM unlocker since I will be using the same provider but good to do so anyways just incase. But the CID unlocker states "you will be allowed to flash ANY Hermes Shipped ROM" this means that I first have to use the CIM unlocker to even flash/cook any custom ROMs?
3. "Shipped Radio ROM" I don't quite understand what this is. the wiki states "The radio ROM provides improvements on the GSM radio stack and this has effect on GSM signal, AT command interface, GSM data modem (3G, GPRS, EDGE, HSDPA, etc...) functionality that is controlled by the Radio Interface Layer (RIL). The radio stack has nothing to do with WiFi or bluetooth -- it is only for the GSM/WCDMA part of the device."
Would I really need to worry about this if I install a custom ROM? Meaning won't the ROM have the latest radio? Or if a new Shipped Radio ROM gets released I can upgrade it without it interfering with the current ROM I have (etc TNT 2.0)?
Sorry for the extremely long post, but I like to fully understand everything before I make a huge purchase like this. Any help is extremely help. Thanks in advanced.

th3oriesfus3d said:
Hi all,
I am in the process of getting a Cingular 8525 after my old one was stolen. I am looking on ebay and see there are serveral 8525's for sale. One in particular has a TNT 2.0 ROM. From what I read it sounds very interesting and reliable.
I am very interested with the custom ROMs that can be installed on the phone. I have fully read the wiki help guide (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes) so I have a really well idea on how to do this. I only have a few questions hopefully I won't get flamed for.
1. Upgrading the rom is as easy as running the utility? Lets say I bought a phone that came with factory rom. I would just use the RUU follow the instructions and phone gets flashed?
2. I also read about a CIM Unlocker which leads me to my next questions. I really don't need the SIM unlocker since I will be using the same provider but good to do so anyways just incase. But the CID unlocker states "you will be allowed to flash ANY Hermes Shipped ROM" this means that I first have to use the CIM unlocker to even flash/cook any custom ROMs?
3. "Shipped Radio ROM" I don't quite understand what this is. the wiki states "The radio ROM provides improvements on the GSM radio stack and this has effect on GSM signal, AT command interface, GSM data modem (3G, GPRS, EDGE, HSDPA, etc...) functionality that is controlled by the Radio Interface Layer (RIL). The radio stack has nothing to do with WiFi or bluetooth -- it is only for the GSM/WCDMA part of the device."
Would I really need to worry about this if I install a custom ROM? Meaning won't the ROM have the latest radio? Or if a new Shipped Radio ROM gets released I can upgrade it without it interfering with the current ROM I have (etc TNT 2.0)?
Sorry for the extremely long post, but I like to fully understand everything before I make a huge purchase like this. Any help is extremely help. Thanks in advanced.
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I'll just keep it pretty basic.
1. Most all of the cooked ROMs do use an RUU to install. So those are a basic "click to install" setup.
2. You have two options to flash any non-native carrier or cooked ROM. The first option is to CID unlock. The second is using the HardSPL method. The CID unlock is permanent, whereas the HardSPL method is not.
3. 90% of the time, cooked ROMs don't include the radio. So, that means it keeps your old radio intact on the phone. If you're having connection issues, try flashing more updated radio ROMs and test. Usually helps.
Hope that helps.

Just what I was looking for. As for the CID Unlock vs. HardSPL why wouldn't I want to use the CID Unlock vs. HardSPL which is not permanent?

th3oriesfus3d said:
Just what I was looking for. As for the CID Unlock vs. HardSPL why wouldn't I want to use the CID Unlock vs. HardSPL which is not permanent?
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I've sent you a PM.

TaurusBullba said:
I've sent you a PM.
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Why? Aren't we worthy enough to hear the answer?

burkay said:
Why? Aren't we worthy enough to hear the answer?
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No, don't be silly.
The question has been asked and answered so many times already I wanted to keep this thread short and let it "die off".
But! Since you asked, CID unlocking will void your warranty. Using HardSPL will not since it allows you to flash any ROM despite your CID status (locked or unlocked).

Telstra branded diamond changing to different rom

I have a Touch Diamond branded by telstra after reading looking through the forum for a while I can't find an answer to a perplexing question ....
Has anyone tried to change the rom on a telstra branded TD to the vodafone rom?
Or has anyone changed to a custom rom with a telstra branded and to what success?
Thanks everyone in advance for help.

While I haven't tried the Vodaphone Rom I have tried a number of other ROM's Dutty's, Swifts, Panosha's Simple, and now Hikari ( i don't like the Tf3d). All have worked well on the Telstra Network. I can't see why it won't work on the Vodaphone network. My nephew's work fine on the Optus network.

To be really honest the only extra functionality you will gain from the Vodafone ROM is the Vodafone specific software and the theme.
If it's just the theme you are after I suggest browsing this forum for one.
Alternatively if you're after the Vodafone ROM for Vodafone SIM... I'd skip that and jump straight onto one of the custom ROMs. The phone performance is a HEAP better than any of the telecommunication company's stock ROMs.
Food for thought.

Im on NextG with Telstra and i have tried nearly every rom here except vodafone.. but the only one flaw with using a unbranded telstra rom is being able to access bigpond.. like with foxtel and all that.. just doesnt pick it up as being a 3.5G phone.
i dunno why.. but i have just put it back to telstra rom and modded it completely myself. if i knew how to take like an image of it i would and post it up here but i wouldnt know one thing about cooking roms lol

I have a Telstra branded Diamond and am using it with an Optus SIM.
When I first got the phone I couldn't get it to accept the Optus settings for Internet access.
So... I upgraded it to one of the cooked ROMS. (Dia Duit and Duttys were tried)
Since then I haven't gone back to the standard ROM and enjoy the better performance.

loki429 said:
I have a Telstra branded Diamond and am using it with an Optus SIM.
When I first got the phone I couldn't get it to accept the Optus settings for Internet access.
So... I upgraded it to one of the cooked ROMS. (Dia Duit and Duttys were tried)
Since then I haven't gone back to the standard ROM and enjoy the better performance.
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Did you run Connection Setups? I got my Voda and Optus to work. Try again.

luckyluke1137 said:
Im on NextG with Telstra and i have tried nearly every rom here except vodafone.. but the only one flaw with using a unbranded telstra rom is being able to access bigpond.. like with foxtel and all that.. just doesnt pick it up as being a 3.5G phone.
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If you're talking about the Bigpong 'free to browse' page being different the all you need is to change the 'custom user agent' setting in Opera... see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2688822&postcount=260
But anyway... to answer the OP, I've flashed a stack of ROMs from here and am currently happy with CT's latest (HD version). Just remember to keep the original specs (Radio & ROM version no.s) in case you need to revert for warranty.

thanks for all the help
thanks for all your comments
I bought the touch diamond second hand, and didn't realise till after I'd parted with the money it was branded (HUGE newbie mistake) but I haven't bought a new phone for 6 years since I got the Nokia 6620.
I use a vodafone sim, and have it working pretty well, just the last lot of telstra locked stuff annoys me. Thanks to this fantastic forum I have been able to change and unlock most of it. Biggest thing is some things just won't work on it, because the current Telstra rom is 1.38.841.5 (vodafone rom is 1.96.XXX.X) and experience a fair share of the modding apps & cabs have problems or simply don't work.
I was thinking of the vodafone one simply because I'm with them. Also when I was first trying to unlock it talked to HTC and they said I couldn't use the vodafone rom on my telstra branded because the hardware in the telstra one is different to the vodafone one.
Thanks for the help, can anyone suggest the best custom rom, & what else do i need to change roms? I've got a bit of a IT background, just not with phones.
Really love this little phone, and I see potential for tf3d, but long way of modding to get it as I want it.
Thanks again everyone.

I have a similar question, thought I'd save wasting a new thread and post it here.
I've had a Telstra branded Diamond for a few months now, using it with a 3 Mobile SIM, and have had no worries until a couple of days ago, when I started roaming, and haven't been able to reconnect to the three mobile network since..
Any ideas??

The only question regarding Telstra branded Diamonds is returning to original SPL 1.38 for warranty reasons..

just one more thought
another question or two...
If I upgrade to another custom rom will I still have to unlock it after the hard reset?
I've been looking and think I've found the rom I want, but can't find a definitive link for hard spl. I've read the thread that everywhere directs me to and the links that I think are for the unsigned hardspl has the headind stock spls, or am I just misreading this.
Also does anyone know if CT 6.4 is signed or unsigned?

Guys - I understand the confusion surrounding upgrading and flashing ROMs as it was only recently I was in the same position.
So in an attempt to make it a little easier for those reading here I will pass on what has worked well for me...
1. Flash HardSPL as downloaded from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=93362&d=1213719705 (it's unsigned but don't worry about that... it saves headaches if you want my opinion)
2. Download the ROM of your choice (as stated earlier - my preference is currently CT's v6.4HD... fast, stable and HD, what more do you want?)
3. Once you have the ROM, extract the .nbh file and rename it to DIAMIMG.nbh and copy this to the root of your internal storage on your Diamond
4. If you're ready to flash (meaning you've backed up whatever you wanna save) then hold the vol down and back button and press the reset button together until you see the tri-colour screen... you're then in the bootloader
5. The phone will search for the .nbh file you placed in memory and ask you to press the power button to confirm you want to flash... obviously you want to do this so sit back while it flashes
6. Once done, reset the phone and perform a hard reset (this is recommended by most ppl although I haven't always done it and never had any issues)
Now enjoy setting your phone up with a custom ROM...
If you want more detail then I strongly suggest you search around and read... it takes time and effort but it's definitely worth it if you want to flash with confidence...
Cheers

not as easy
Sorry if anyone read this orginal post just getting jitters when something went wrong with hardspl flash.
But a soft reset later and its still works. But it raises the question if something bad happens when flashing the hardspl and bootloader doesn't work what can be done apart from throwing phone away?
I assume as long as the bootloader works you can manually redo incomplete rom install?
Something going wrong with hard spl install is my biggest worry, it was a nats ear from happening a little earlier so I'm asking these questions.
Oh & last thing with CT's 6.4 rom what is the real difference between original TF3d and HD? How is the increased screen resolution handled? Do you have to scroll down for the area I cant see, or is it cut off so you can not access it, or is it squished to fit the smaller resolution?

Greenion said:
Sorry if anyone read this orginal post just getting jitters when something went wrong with hardspl flash.
But a soft reset later and its still works. But it raises the question if something bad happens when flashing the hardspl and bootloader doesn't work what can be done apart from throwing phone away?
I assume as long as the bootloader works you can manually redo incomplete rom install?
Something going wrong with hard spl install is my biggest worry, it was a nats ear from happening a little earlier so I'm asking these questions.
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As long as you can access the bootloader you should be able to sort out the phone... personally I've never had an issue with flashing (and on average I've flashed my two Diamonds (a 130 and 100) an easy 30-40 times).
My preference with flashing is to do it from the internal storage (seems the most logical in terms of reliability - and is also by far the fastest) but I'm not sure if HardSPL can be done that way - if it is possible I'd be strongly recommending it - USB connections are just too dicey for something that serious.

Greenion said:
Also does anyone know if CT 6.4 is signed or unsigned?
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I have the OliNex 1.4 hard spl and I can flash CT's ROM without any problem.

done
Well it done.
A little easier than I was expecting but just as concerning, but over now.
Finally went with CT's 6.4 Original, I can always change to the HD or just add one of the HD add ons.
Everything is running smooth and well. Finally all the testra crap is gone.
Thanks to everyone for their help and kind advice.
This is a GREAT forum, its been a fantastic help and resource.
Till next time

How do you flash the new 2.03 ROM? I have tried with the executable from HTC and it gives me an invalid ID error.
Windza said:
As long as you can access the bootloader you should be able to sort out the phone... personally I've never had an issue with flashing (and on average I've flashed my two Diamonds (a 130 and 100) an easy 30-40 times).
My preference with flashing is to do it from the internal storage (seems the most logical in terms of reliability - and is also by far the fastest) but I'm not sure if HardSPL can be done that way - if it is possible I'd be strongly recommending it - USB connections are just too dicey for something that serious.
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Upgrading Radio

This is a re-post of one I did on PPCGeeks. Haven't received an answer there yet.
I have a Verizon xv6900 that has the 2.31 unlocker on it. I have flashed to other 6.1 ROMs, but am currently running the stock Verizon one. When I flashed back to stock, I let the customizations run (I like the version of Opera that comes with it) and my gps is non-functional. I've fought Valhalla, all the "fixes" that seem to work only for specific users and am wondering if upgrading the radio will fix the GPS. I went back to the stock ROM because the bluetooth works with my Redfly. I would trade that for working gps in a custom ROM.
If I upgrade to the Bell ROM with radio 3.42.50,
1. Will I get the use of the gps back?
2. Will I need a new A-key?
3. Will this lock me into using only custom ROMs?
4. Can I flash back to stock Verizon and will it downgrade the radio and poison the gps again?
Thanks for any help. I've read ImCoKeMaN's threads about downgrading radios and am just a little nervous about messing with the radio rather than just with the ROM.

You should but there has been problems like that with the stock verizon rom. Try to flash the Radio (3.4....or higher) and make sure you have Cokemans Unlocker/Bootloader.
If that doesnt work, refer to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462206
Hope you get the issue resolved. Good Luck!
1. Will I get the use of the gps back? Yes
2. Will I need a new A-key? Dont believe so
3. Will this lock me into using only custom ROMs? No
4. Can I flash back to stock Verizon and will it downgrade the radio and poison the gps again? Once you have it fully flashed you can always go back to stock (without downgrading radio) I think it is NOT good to DOWNGRADE the Radio. You dont have to change it back to flash to stock.

Thanks for the information! I have searched for weeks and couldn't find that link! One other thing, I'm in W-S, NC! Out of all the people here, who'd have thought a next door neighbor would have the answer!

drowe said:
Thanks for the information! I have searched for weeks and couldn't find that link! One other thing, I'm in W-S, NC! Out of all the people here, who'd have thought a next door neighbor would have the answer!
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could you please post your results once you finish, oh and by the way, i'm in Ch-tte, NC

Glad I was able to help. Seems like quite a few of us are in NC.

No luck.... When I ran the second half of the directions first, no satelites were found. I then tried doing the ppst portion like the directions asked and nothing happens. It kills the phone connection and requires a soft reset to get it back. I backed out of everthing at that point since I'm on call and can't be without the phone.

1. Will I get the use of the gps back?
Negative, letting the customizations run on the stock verizon rom is the culprit, that locked down your gps. You just have to search on how to fix it, I believe you need to change your PRI or your PRL to get gps back.. not positive which but I've seen the fix on here
2. Will I need a new A-key? Nope
3. Will this lock me into using only custom ROMs? Nope
4. Can I flash back to stock Verizon and will it downgrade the radio and poison the gps again?
Yes you can "downgrade" back to your verizon rom and radio as long as it is the verizon wm 6.1 rom because that still has a GPS radio. I have gone from the Bell 3.42.50 radio back to the Verizon 3.37.38 a couple times, as the .38 actually seems to have better reception in the location I am now than the .50
edit: If you do get your GPS working by finding a fix and decide to flash back to the stock verizon rom.....
DO NOT LET THE CUSTOMIZATIONS RUN (soft reset the phone before they start on the first boot)

Hi Can anyone one confirm any perfomance change over using 3.37.77 or 3.37.78 or 3.42.50 radio ??

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gogodj said:
Hi Can anyone one confirm any perfomance change over using 3.37.77 or 3.37.78 or 3.42.50 radio ??
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we have the radio ver.3.42.50 we dont have any problems what so ever

gogodj said:
Hi Can anyone one confirm any perfomance change over using 3.37.77 or 3.37.78 or 3.42.50 radio ??
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I went from 3.37.78 to 3.42.50 and saw no difference at all. Didn't seem to hurt anything, but didn't seem to help anything either. YMMV......

Thanks I updated to 3.42.50, didn't notice any change either

gogodj said:
Thanks I updated to 3.42.50, didn't notice any change either
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thats good

I have 3.37.78 and have had alot of dropped calls and missed text messages. I have to upgrade but have been lazy about it.
I have Verizon also and have successfully flash 9 different vouges
-2 (Insurance swaps) with the issue of GPS.
-3 (Friends) with the issue of GPS.
If your stuck and have a question just pm me. Ill be willing to guide you the correct way.

latest Verizon WM 6.1 ROM with upgraded 3.42.50 radio: possible?
So, is there any way to get a stock Verizon Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM on my Vogue (avoiding poison customizations, etc.) and put on the Bell 3.42.50 radio? I'm using the 3.42.50 radio right now, and it ROCKS, but I'd like to go back to the standard Verizon software load, other than the radio firmware.
In the Kaiser world, there are RUUs that update the radio only. Do these exist for Vogue? This would seem to be the ticket...

wanderso said:
So, is there any way to get a stock Verizon Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM on my Vogue (avoiding poison customizations, etc.) and put on the Bell 3.42.50 radio? I'm using the 3.42.50 radio right now, and it ROCKS, but I'd like to go back to the standard Verizon software load, other than the radio firmware.
In the Kaiser world, there are RUUs that update the radio only. Do these exist for Vogue? This would seem to be the ticket...
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Recently tackled this myself, due to the lack of a small SD card, I flashed the Bell ROM which includes radio: 3.42.50. Personally, NFSFAN's 6.5 (also works with his 6.1 build) suits me well, so I RUU'd that over top of the Bell ROM, the bell radio stuck, and both NFSFANs builds works well with that radio.
Official Bell ROM from HTC includes 3.42.50 radio: http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=70&cat=2&dl_id=98
****If you want to keep the stock Verizon software (ROM, etc) take a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415364 You can flash a stock Verizon ROM to your phone, and then, using a mSDcard flash the 3.42.50 radio.
Here is a link to the Official Verizon MR1 ROM
http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=95&cid=1&mid=302&carrier=Verizon%20Wireless
GPS Fix for the stock MR1 ROM (works for me consistently)
Just make sure u scroll down to the proper walk-through (for the MR1 Rom)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix
Good Luck.
Can anyo0ne comment on tethered data speeds from one radio to another?

3.42.40

Does anyone have a VOGUIMG.NHB of this. I tried the one for the titan it did not work. My brother have a Titan with this radio & he has service in places I do not, and I would like to be on the same footing as him.. I have a Sprint.. I've looked and I can not find a working NBH for that radio..

Radio
ftp://up.ppcgeeks.com/Vogue/Radios/VOGUIMG.3.42.40
Rename to VOGUIMG.NBH

Thanks for the new Radio
Just what I was looking for. A 'simple' radio only update. Perfect. Now lets see if the new radio [ I was at 3.42.30 ] is better signal wise.

Where do I have to put that file???

use a micro sd card formatted to fat32. copy file there. put it phone. enter bootloader mode and it will auto start. press power button to flash, when its done restart phone. easy

cnr0616 said:
ftp://up.ppcgeeks.com/Vogue/Radios/VOGUIMG.3.42.40
Rename to VOGUIMG.NBH
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This may be a stupid question but will updating the radio have any impact on GPS? I know that the cellular radio and gps are on the same chip but is the radio update solely for the cellular radio?

ambivalent-one said:
This may be a stupid question but will updating the radio have any impact on GPS? I know that the cellular radio and gps are on the same chip but is the radio update solely for the cellular radio?
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It should update GPS, it is a catch22 in some regions like here in Salt Lake Utah the sprint radio works better for GPS but has poor signal on my phone.

does this work better than 3.42.50?

I live in Michigan (Detroit) idk about you, but here I went from 1-2 Bars with .30 and .50 to 7 with .40.. It's a major upgrade the GPS is juss a tad bit slower.

whitey10tc said:
It should update GPS, it is a catch22 in some regions like here in Salt Lake Utah the sprint radio works better for GPS but has poor signal on my phone.
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For the life of me I can't get it to update using the micro SD or through usb using RUU. Keeps telling me the RUU isn't for my model of phone. The last one I tried got to 8% on the phone and then the phone rebooted and the RUU stated I had an incompatible handset. I have unlocked the SPL and succesfully loaded NSFFANs WinMo 6.5. So I know it's not a lock issue. The SD problem is likely caused by the card being 4gb (I have read that it has to be below 2gb). I really preffer doing the update using a RUU. So. My Vogue is a Telus Touch 3050. Does anybody have a link I can look at that addresses my particular phone and updating the radio only? Don't want a stock ROM loaded. Just a radio update to help with GPS lock times (hopefully).

SD card must ben NON HD, so 2gb or less.

ambivalent-one said:
For the life of me I can't get it to update using the micro SD or through usb using RUU. Keeps telling me the RUU isn't for my model of phone. The last one I tried got to 8% on the phone and then the phone rebooted and the RUU stated I had an incompatible handset. I have unlocked the SPL and succesfully loaded NSFFANs WinMo 6.5. So I know it's not a lock issue. The SD problem is likely caused by the card being 4gb (I have read that it has to be below 2gb). I really preffer doing the update using a RUU. So. My Vogue is a Telus Touch 3050. Does anybody have a link I can look at that addresses my particular phone and updating the radio only? Don't want a stock ROM loaded. Just a radio update to help with GPS lock times (hopefully).
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I'll upload them to my 4shared site here shortly.
I have the 3.42.30, 3.42.40, 3.42.50 As far as using an RUU I have never updated my radios that way but I know it can be done. Also you may want to partition your 4 gb card to 2 2gb partitions and see if that works. Also just to verify these are for CDMA Vogues AKA Touch. You will need to also use an RUU that is designated for the Touch Vogue.

This has the 3 radios mentions in my last post zipped together
http://www.4shared.com/file/143967240/244c2d8f/Vogue_radios.html

So just to be sure, out of the ones you posted, which is the best and latest radio for the CDMA Vogue? Is it .40 or .50? I have a Sprint Touch (CDMA Vogue) and I want to install NFSFAN's WinMo 6.5 ROM on it but I want to update the radio because I think that is recommended to get this ROM. Also, I would like to improve signal and GPS in general, so I want to update the radio anyway.
Also, can you please clarify how exactly I update the radio using these files. I read the post about renaming it properly (.nbh), putting it onto a microSD card with fat32 file system, going into bootloader mode, then restarting the phone. How exactly do you go into bootloader mode to install this update? If someone could link me to step by step instructions for beginners, or explain it here that would be great, thanks a bunch!

Hello
First insert an SD card with the radio properly named.
To enter BL mode just press and hold the power and camera buttons simultaneously and poke your stylus in to the soft reset hole located next to the usb /charger connector.the screen becomes three coloured.
Now follow the on screen instructions.finally soft reset after successful flashing and you are done.
I hope this helps.

Thanks for the reply. I just installed the new WinMo 6.5 ROM from vin on my phone and it worked. I still want to update my radio but I just want to make sure that the radio update won't overwrite the ROM upgrade, or make me have to do it over again.
This shouldn't happen right, like I should be able to just update the radio after installing this ROM and it should be fine?
Oh and one last thing, which is the best radio version to use for this phone? 3.42.40 or 3.42.50? I am currently using 3.42.30.
My original guess was .50, but apparently someone gets better signal with the .40 so I just want to be sure, thanks!!

Both .50 and .40 work well. .40 is newer than .50 but I used .50 for over a year and it was great.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=694930&postcount=1
Apparently Telus have the best radios over each system. And our 3.42.40 is equal to their 1.04.05v.. So check that list and see if .40 is in your range.

xadjustx said:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=694930&postcount=1
Apparently Telus have the best radios over each system. And our 3.42.40 is equal to their 1.04.05v.. So check that list and see if .40 is in your range.
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The link provided is for the Diamond and should not be used on a Vogue.
mfpreach said:
Both .50 and .40 work well. .40 is newer than .50 but I used .50 for over a year and it was great.
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.40 is only newr to the Vogue it was ported to the Vogue from the Titan.
GaMeBoY439 said:
Thanks for the reply. I just installed the new WinMo 6.5 ROM from vin on my phone and it worked. I still want to update my radio but I just want to make sure that the radio update won't overwrite the ROM upgrade, or make me have to do it over again.
This shouldn't happen right, like I should be able to just update the radio after installing this ROM and it should be fine?
Oh and one last thing, which is the best radio version to use for this phone? 3.42.40 or 3.42.50? I am currently using 3.42.30.
My original guess was .50, but apparently someone gets better signal with the .40 so I just want to be sure, thanks!!
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You will be fine just updating the radio it does nothing to the ROM. As for the best I think it depends what region you are in. You just need to experiment.

Hi All,
I have tried to flash a new radio on my new Vogue (Sprint HTC Touch) but for some reason I have been unable to do it. I have tried the following:
* Via SD (2GB non-SDHC)
* Via RUU in normal mode
* Via RUU in bootloader mode
* Re-downloading the files in case they were corrupted or something.
I have:
* Renamed the file(s) to VOGUIMG.nbh
* Unlocked and superCID unlocked my device
My phone is working fine with fairly good signal, but I read a few threads that mentioned that .40 has a faster lock for the GPS (as well as slightly better signal quality). I am currently on 3.37.10 and on WM 6.5.1 build 21864.
This is not my first time flashing anything by any means, but I cannot seem to be able to do this for some strange reason.
Any help is appreciated.
I actually got the RUU to start doing something but it stopped at around 30%

Radio Update for Telsta A8183

Hi,
Are the Telstra Desire able to work with the newest 5.09 Radio?
is 3g internet and everything else still working after the update is applied? Will a SIMlock occur?
What are the advantages with this update?
Can we go back to previous radios by simply reflashing the radio?
I'm looking at Flashing a Froyo ROM and want to make sure that I don't brick my Desire in trying to do so.
Thanks

Mine's been working perfectly fine on the new Radio and Official Froyo (Without hboot) using nickiberli's ROM since about 30 minutes after it was uploaded.
I've been backwards and forwards and all over the place using other ROMs too, and have always been able to RUU flash it back to the stock Telstra 2.1 and re-root from scratch.
BTW: No SIMLock, and 3G/Wifi/GPS/Bluetooth all work as they did pre-2.2 and the new radio.

Sounds good. Which version of the Radio did you use?
Do you know if there are problems accessing the Telstra web pages and checking your accounts online as I have read that it may not work due to not having the useragent string?
Thanks for your help

jrc91 said:
Sounds good. Which version of the Radio did you use?
Do you know if there are problems accessing the Telstra web pages and checking your accounts online as I have read that it may not work due to not having the useragent string?
Thanks for your help
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Unless your phone is rooted you should be fine. There is a fix on the Modaco forums to replace the user strings in custom roms with the correct Telstra ones.
I can't confirm if it works as I've never used it (can't stand the Telstra crapware myself) but would be worth a shot
EDIT: Almost forgot, I'm currently using 5.09.00.20. 5.08.00.04 also worked fine.

Stewge said:
Unless your phone is rooted you should be fine. There is a fix on the Modaco forums to replace the user strings in custom roms with the correct Telstra ones.
I can't confirm if it works as I've never used it (can't stand the Telstra crapware myself) but would be worth a shot
EDIT: Almost forgot, I'm currently using 5.09.00.20. 5.08.00.04 also worked fine.
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The Telstra Strings I only need for online billing, otherwise just accessing the telstra website apparently charges.
Are there problems if you have or are planning to Root the phone? Currently it is not rooted, but if i try going to a FROYO ROM i will need to. Will this cause problems?
Thanks

jrc91 said:
Sounds good. Which version of the Radio did you use?
Do you know if there are problems accessing the Telstra web pages and checking your accounts online as I have read that it may not work due to not having the useragent string?
Thanks for your help
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I use 5.09.00.20 as well with no hassles.
Personally I don't care about the Telstra web pages as I use none of them, so I wouldn't know (I even removed all links and references to them in my stock ROM via ADB). I'm assuming they won't work due to said useragent string missing.
Otherwise, as Stewage says, there's a fix floating around somewhere for it if it's that important to you.

jrc91 said:
The Telstra Strings I only need for online billing, otherwise just accessing the telstra website apparently charges.
Are there problems if you have or are planning to Root the phone? Currently it is not rooted, but if i try going to a FROYO ROM i will need to. Will this cause problems?
Thanks
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The problem that arises is basically just the useragent string not being in non-Telstra ROMs (Which you'll be using if you root and install Froyo). At least this is the impression I get, I haven't had ANY issues otherwise, and I've been rooted since about 3 days after I got the phone.

ok...
So if i flash the Radio to 5.09 then root, then flash to FROYO i shouldn't have any problems other than anything that deals with Telstra and needing to update APN

Found this rom over on the modaco forums:
http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/314372/telstramod2-2-2-sense-720p/
Looks like it's based on Leedroid and Pauls roms (both Froyo) and with the Telstra strings modded in. I'd give that a crack to see if your Telstra stuff still works

yeah im using the latest radio from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687464
and the latest opendesire rom from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712615
works fine!

you can still check your usage without the strings, just means it will count towards your data usage instead of being unmetered, but really not that big of a deal unless you're signed up to the foxtel mobile crap

OK.
One final thing. When you flash the radio do you have to use Paul's R5 tools, or can you use ROM Manager (Clockwork) to flash the radio?
Thanks
P.S. Sorry for asking all the N00b questions

There is a custome leedroid Telstra specific mod available here:
t-mod.org
full instructions here:
t-mod.org/?page_id=11

jrc91 said:
OK.
One final thing. When you flash the radio do you have to use Paul's R5 tools, or can you use ROM Manager (Clockwork) to flash the radio?
Thanks
P.S. Sorry for asking all the N00b questions
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You can use clockworkmod or Amon RA recovery to flash the radio the same way you flash the custom roms

not sure if i am resurrecting a dead thread, but i thought it would be worthwhile getting the opinions of people with the Telstra Desire (A8183 model) on what radios are best for making sure that we get on the 850mhz (NextG) rather than the crappy 2100mhz (3Telstra) band... I noticed that my phone spends more time on 3Telstra than my wife's does as her phone has the Telstra Rom on it (presume that means that radio and RIL too) and so her phone gets speeds about 400kb/s while mine sits next to it getting 100kb/s...
Any ideas??