[Q] Clockwork Mod broken? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I clockwork mod but whenever i reboot to recovery, its the vanilla type, not clockwork, i have to flash update.zip from SD, and when clockwork comes up, if i press power to select, the screen just goes blank. press power again, clockwork main menu comes back up. what gives?

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Flash it via ROM Manager.

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Unknownforce said:
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I would flash RA recovery as I have found this is the most dependable
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xlGmanlx said:
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I would flash RA recovery as I have found this is the most dependable
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I would flash Clockwork as I have found it to be problem-free and easy to navigate using one button at a time.
Personal preference.

I agree its still about preference but clockwork had proven to not wipe properly, and some devs suggest using armon. Either way happy flashing
SilverZero said:
I would flash Clockwork as I have found it to be problem-free and easy to navigate using one button at a time.
Personal preference.
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+1 AmonRA recovery

+1,000,000,000,001 clockwork recovery.

i use both I ahve had problems where with AMon it gives an error doing a nand restore soemthign abotu running it form windows. but never have the issue with clockwork. I have the update.zip for clockwork so i use amon to boot into and wipe then clock work to nand and flash.
I am weird i guess

xlGmanlx said:
I agree its still about preference but clockwork had proven to not wipe properly, and some devs suggest using armon. Either way happy flashing
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Do you have a citation for this proof?

SilverZero said:
Do you have a citation for this proof?
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In the OP for Netarchy's kernal. the Snap or the 2.2 fps fix kernal. He states that clockwork does not wipe dalvik and data completely and recommends amon ra. I myself use clockwork and have never had a problem.

runningwarrior08 said:
In the OP for Netarchy's kernal. the Snap or the 2.2 fps fix kernal. He states that clockwork does not wipe dalvik and data completely and recommends amon ra. I myself use clockwork and have never had a problem.
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Whatever happened to the scientific method? People will believe anything these days.
I'll do a test today (again) and share my results.

SilverZero said:
Whatever happened to the scientific method? People will believe anything these days.
I'll do a test today (again) and share my results.
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No i do believe in scientific method, I have tried both and found no error with clockwork, that is why I still use it.
I was just answering his question

Both are better then I could ever do =)
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I had the dark cherry theme for CM6 RC1 installed on my phone and then went on to the nightlies. Tried to factory reset / dalvik twice before installing the nightly to make sure the theme was gone. When i finished the nightly, the icons that were replaced by the theme were still there, so no, clockwork doesn't wipe completely, it wipes, just not absolutely everything it should. Using latest version via rom manager.

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Uhhhh Ohhhh... EVO repeatedly rebooting

Now, I thought, "hey, I'm not a novice with flashing ROM images, nor am I a *nix or system notice..." So, I decided to cook a ROM using the Online ROM kitchen: http://evo.feeder.pk/
I had run unrevoked3 + unrevoked forever, so I had clockwork recovery.
So, I copied the zipped ROM generated off the online ROM kitchen to the sdcard and then via clockwork installed /sdcard/update.zip (the ROM).
So, everything installed okay, then upon reboot, it seems to go into a reboot loop.
Lucky for me I performed a nandroid backup before installing the newly built ROM, and I'm in them middle of performing a nandroid restore; which I hope will resolve the problem.
1) Will the nandroid restore actually restore my entire phone back to how it was previously?
2) How do I actually install another ROM properly?
These are pretty n00b questions, but any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Matt
branded said:
Now, I thought, "hey, I'm not a novice with flashing ROM images, nor am I a *nix or system notice..." So, I decided to cook a ROM using the Online ROM kitchen: http://evo.feeder.pk/
I had run unrevoked3 + unrevoked forever, so I had clockwork recovery.
So, I copied the zipped ROM generated off the online ROM kitchen to the sdcard and then via clockwork installed /sdcard/update.zip (the ROM).
So, everything installed okay, then upon reboot, it seems to go into a reboot loop.
Lucky for me I performed a nandroid backup before installing the newly built ROM, and I'm in them middle of performing a nandroid restore; which I hope will resolve the problem.
1) Will the nandroid restore actually restore my entire phone back to how it was previously?
2) How do I actually install another ROM properly?
These are pretty n00b questions, but any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Matt
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1) Its supposed to...
2) From what it sounds like, you installed everything okay, just with a bad ROM image. Installing any of the other ROMs already posted should relieve you of your bootloops (as should the nandroid). Unless you try overclocking, which some folks experience bootloops when overclocked over 1.15.
nol3n said:
1) Its supposed to...
2) From what it sounds like, you installed everything okay, just with a bad ROM image. Installing any of the other ROMs already posted should relieve you of your bootloops (as should the nandroid). Unless you try overclocking, which some folks experience bootloops when overclocked over 1.15.
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Thank you sir. nandroid obviously did restore everything back to normal (wasn't sure to what extent nandroid backed up the device, but it looks like every single thing was backed up).
As for a ROM, I really just want the stock froyo ROM, but rooted... Do you have any suggestions? I can't go OTA since I have clockwork recovery.
Thanks,
Matt
branded said:
Thank you sir. nandroid obviously did restore everything back to normal (wasn't sure to what extent nandroid backed up the device, but it looks like every single thing was backed up).
As for a ROM, I really just want the stock froyo ROM, but rooted... Do you have any suggestions? I can't go OTA since I have clockwork recovery.
Thanks,
Matt
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I have flashed most of the ROMs here, but I have mostly been using CM6 (Cyanogenmod 6) since it came out. I did try Baked Snack, which is a very nice ROM with a beautiful theme, but it is Sense based and if by any chance you wanted to use a Wiimote for emulators, you cant. It is based off the HTC bluetooth stack, CM6 is not. Its kinda nice to get nightly (experimental) updates to flash if you want to also.
Its all a matter of personal preference, but my BEST results have been with CM6 - benchmark, features, and otherwise.
*E* You also may want to consider posting something like this in the Q&A forum next time...
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nol3n said:
I have flashed most of the ROMs here, but I have mostly been using CM6 (Cyanogenmod 6) since it came out. I did try Baked Snack, which is a very nice ROM with a beautiful theme, but it is Sense based and if by any chance you wanted to use a Wiimote for emulators, you cant. It is based off the HTC bluetooth stack, CM6 is not. Its kinda nice to get nightly (experimental) updates to flash if you want to also.
Its all a matter of personal preference, but my BEST results have been with CM6 - benchmark, features, and otherwise.
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Very cool. I'll take a look but I really want Sense, which I'm not sure if CM6 has. Thanks.
Sporkman said:
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Just flag the post and request a mod move it. There's really little reason to post a reply. It seemed like the best place given the descriptions of all the EVO sub-forums.
branded said:
Thank you sir. nandroid obviously did restore everything back to normal (wasn't sure to what extent nandroid backed up the device, but it looks like every single thing was backed up).
As for a ROM, I really just want the stock froyo ROM, but rooted... Do you have any suggestions? I can't go OTA since I have clockwork recovery.
Thanks,
Matt
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Just get netarchys rooted stock rom and you should be ok... just make sure you get the rooted version
Next time do a wipe of your davik cache before installing any rom
playya said:
Just get netarchys rooted stock rom and you should be ok... just make sure you get the rooted version
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Thanks playya...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740520
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
evolol said:
Next time do a wipe of your davik cache before installing any rom
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http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...-clockwork-clears-dalvik-cache-just-fine.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4535156&postcount=4
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-eris/76110-what-dalvik-cache.html#post710236
And thank you both for ignoring that racist bag of donkey twats that responded earlier.
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Thanks playya... do you have a link?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4535156&postcount=4
http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-eris/76110-what-dalvik-cache.html#post710236
And thank you both for ignoring that racist bag of donkey twats that responded earlier.
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no problem quote from last response at that forum
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Originally Posted by Tamasabian View Post
Ok. So I should just clear it when I do a data wipe to flash a new rom? Will it be a problem if I just do a data wipe and flash a new rom without doing the dalvik cache?
i have had issues when i dont clear the dalvik cache, but never had issues when i do. just cear it, nothing bad will happen and only good can come of it
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agreed, theres a section for Q&A
evolol said:
no problem quote from last response at that forum
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Originally Posted by Tamasabian View Post
Ok. So I should just clear it when I do a data wipe to flash a new rom? Will it be a problem if I just do a data wipe and flash a new rom without doing the dalvik cache?
i have had issues when i dont clear the dalvik cache, but never had issues when i do. just cear it, nothing bad will happen and only good can come of it
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Cool thank you I will do that and attempt to reflash this ROM that I cooked.
Rocklee99 said:
agreed, theres a section for Q&A
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Flag the thread and request a mod move it. Glad that you all really want to up your post count so badly, shows real dedication to the forums cleanliness.
Your welcome...now show your dedication to this forum by following instructions & quit cluttering the development section with basic Questions
Not to delf: seems like I fall under a ClockworkRecovery user who's dalvik cache doesn't actually clear. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763) Kick ass!
I have the same problem as you!!!! I posted it in the wrong forum though so I'll briefly psot my problem and maybe someone can help me. I was trying to update my radio to the latest radio and it worked. I then realized I didn't have a 4g signal and the mod I was using supports 4g. So I tried updating to the latest wimax and then my phone started rebooting. After it boots android it reboots after a bout a minute or 2.
I FIXED it with a nandroid restore which had my 2.1-1 back up which I made during the idiot proof guide. So thinking that I can always use that backup as a restore I tried re-installing the radios because I don't see how they could not work on my phone and thought maybe I had a corrupt file, but voila my phone started rebooting again, but this time nandroid restore tells me to fix it via adb restore, BUT my usb isn't working either. So I'm stuck and have no idea on how to get this thing to load my restore. Any help would be appreciated.
I didn't read you're reply. But after installing RA, I think I'll be alright...
Here's the deal from start to finish...
download and install the android SDK
install all the necessary drivers
restart in recovery mode ( adb restart recovery or hold volume down when powering on the device)
use adb shell to access the shell while the device is in recovery
1) install RA recovery using adb method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026) This may or may not be okay with or without running unrevoked first... not sure if flash_image was placed on the device by unrevoked.
2) reboot into recovery
3) flush dalvik cache via RA recovery.
4) flush cache via RA recovery.
5) use adb push to copy a downloaded ROM zip to /sdcard/update.zip (using RA recovery to mount the /sdcard/ partition)
- I've downloaded http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7512117
6) Install update.zip from sdcard in RA recovery
- After booting into the new ROM one time, I allowed it to start and configured... then performed 3,4,5 against flashing a new kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
And that should be that. I'm currently downloading the ROM, so I don't know how it'll be.

Endless boot loop

ok i was running cyanogenmod 7 ex- destroyer and i nandroid backup wiped (data/cache/delvic cache) flashed mike froyo v4.5, and now anytime i flash a rom or back up its in an endless boot animation loop. the only rom i can flash is a stock rom. I miss my cm7 ex can anyone help please.
are you using clockworkmod 3... or 2.5 there have been some issues with 3. version if you are on 3., you should go back to 2.5 and try calkulins allformat.zip, it erases data,cache,dalvik, and partitions, it works every time i have a problem flashing a new rom, you can find it in his thread just look for calkulin, have your new room in sd to flash after wipe
Download amon RA v2.3 in the form of PC36IMG.zip from amon's thread. I don't have the link handy. Place the zip file on the root of your hard drive and turn off your EVO. Simultaneously press the down volume button and the power button until your device starts. The bootloader will load and automatically detect the zip file and prompt you to install. Follow the easy prompts to install. Installation will take less than 10 seconds. Afterwards, reboot into recovery, go to the wipe menu and wipe EVERYTHING in it except the SD card itself. Now go into the flash menu and flash the rom of your choice. You should no longer have bootlooping issues unless your radios need reflashing.
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I don't have the link handy.
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Thank you, JStalford. I appreciate it..
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Actually its a kernel issue, ASOP kernels normally don't like sense kernels, and you'll get a boot loop.
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Did I miss where he said something about using a Sense kernel on an AOSP ROM or vice versa?
I thought he was on CM7 and wanted to flash MikFroyo. No mention of kernels.
ok i tried the calukin format and it didnt reflashed. i was running clockwork 2.6 and i even tried 3.0 and nothing.. i just updated to amon ra and im going to get back to if it works...
yea i was running cm7 but i was reading about mikefroyo and heard it was fast and wanted to see if it was faster than cm7. and to me it wasnt so when i flashed back to cm7 i started getting a boot loop
Okay. Remember to wipe EVERYTHING in the wipe menu EXCEPT the SD card itself. Do it twice for good measure. You do not need Calkulin's format-all zip.
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Okay. Remember to wipe EVERYTHING in the wipe menu EXCEPT the SD card itself. Do it twice for good measure. You do not need Calkulin's format-all zip.
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ok i wiped everything reflashed and it work... i thank you for your time and for helping me getting my phone back...
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ok i wiped everything reflashed and it work... i thank you for your time and for helping me getting my phone back...
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You're very welcome. I'm glad I was able to help. Take care...

[Q] Fresh's 4.0 beta

So I downloaded it and love it. But it won't let me access my recovery when my phone is off and I hold power and the down volume anymore. Any suggestions?
richdogg112 said:
So I downloaded it and love it. But it won't let me access my recovery when my phone is off and I hold power and the down volume anymore. Any suggestions?
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what recovery are you on?
I use clockwork. What happened was I thought I used mybackup pro to download all the apps but I think I just backed up the data. So I wanted to flash back to sprint lovers and use it to re back up the apk + data. Anyway, I just backed up the Fresh rom through clockwork and I'm pretty sure I can flash back to SL from there too, right?
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I use clockwork. What happened was I thought I used mybackup pro to download all the apps but I think I just backed up the data. So I wanted to flash back to sprint lovers and use it to re back up the apk + data. Anyway, I just backed up the Fresh rom through clockwork and I'm pretty sure I can flash back to SL from there too, right?
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Yes you can, I personally don't use clockwork but I think when running the 2.3 GB beta it might not work correctly with recovery thats not up to date. I use amon ra 2.3 it works for me; are you on clockwork 3.0?
I'm on the most updated one, so yes 3.0, I haven't tried amon ra yet but I've heard a lot of people prefer that over clockwork. I'm in the process of restoring my SL rom so I'll keep you updated. Thank you for the quick responses
No problem, yes I prefer amon ra myself but its the users choice. If you still can't get in recovery I'd say try it on amon ra for the fresh beta then go back to clockwork. Only thing about switching recoveries is that you can't restore backups from one recovery to another!
I've never booted up or flashed through clockwork so this was new to me. I've always done it the old fashioned way I guess. This is a lot easier. I've read a bit on the differences with amon ra and clockwork, but it's always better to get perspective from a user. So why did you chose amon ra over clockwork?
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I've never booted up or flashed through clockwork so this was new to me. I've always done it the old fashioned way I guess. This is a lot easier. I've read a bit on the differences with amon ra and clockwork, but it's always better to get perspective from a user. So why did you chose amon ra over clockwork?
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Lol well lets just leave it at personal preference. Its said that clockwork has trouble wiping dalvik/cache at times, and other random issues and since my g1 days back in 2008 I've always ran with amon ra. There's other reasons why I will NEVER run clockwork but I think ill keep those to myself lol. Wouldn't want to start drama around here
edit: dirty beat me to it.
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I've never booted up or flashed through clockwork so this was new to me. I've always done it the old fashioned way I guess. This is a lot easier. I've read a bit on the differences with amon ra and clockwork, but it's always better to get perspective from a user. So why did you chose amon ra over clockwork?
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clockworkmod can be controlled by rom manager, which is helpful for noobs, and is a bit cleaner, but cant read amend scripting. amend is much easier to write, and more widely known. most flashable zips are written in amend, because it's more flexable and everything. only a few big roms are written in edify. amon-ra can read both amend and edify. so it's much easier for me and other minor/learning developers to write in amend.
I apologize, that's what I meant I was doing. I'm using Rom Manager to flash. I've had my Evo since October and just rooted it about a week ago when I got my Xoom. I'm very noobish still and still learning the programs for rooting.
richdogg112 said:
So I downloaded it and love it. But it won't let me access my recovery when my phone is off and I hold power and the down volume anymore. Any suggestions?
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You'll need to turn off fast boot in the settings. When that's on, the phone doesn't completely shut off.
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You'll need to turn off fast boot in the settings. When that's on, the phone doesn't completely shut off.
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*facepalm* I completely forgot about that which is funny because that's one of the first things I did myself lol
I knew I was gonna love this XDA site. Fast, helpful responses. Guess I'm used to forums putting down the other users.
richdogg112 said:
I knew I was gonna love this XDA site. Fast, helpful responses. Guess I'm used to forums putting down the other users.
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hahah if you do it right you will. post a question in the dev section, or without searching first, or jsut a dumb question.... here's what you get. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1047664 lol
Lol, I tried a search for it and the only thread that came up was the dev one, since I just joined I couldn't post there and came here. So even if I end up with a bad experience down the road, first impression was a very good one

[Q] Rom manager wont flash recovery

I'm running CM7 with Clockworkmod 3.0.0.5. Im trying to flash the latest radio, so i need to flash back to a Clockworkmod 2.x.
But the thing is Rom manager already says my current recovery is 2.5.0.7. But when i actually reboot into recovery its definitely still 3.0.0.5. I've tried to flash all of the older versions of Clockworkmod available in Rom manager, and it says they flash correctly, and rom manager even reports that my clockworkmod version is the one i tried to flash. But when i reboot into recovery it hasnt changed.
Ive even tried to flash amon ra through rom manager and that did nothing.
I have "erase recovery" checked in settings. I tried to fix permissions. I've rebooted and even wiped data. Ive gone into market and uninstalled the updates to go back to rom manager 3.x but that didnt fix the problem. Ive wiped dalvik cache and that didnt work either.
Does anyone know what the problem is?
If not, does anyone have a link to a clockworkmod 2.x recovery.img so i can just manually flash it through fastboot? ive looked around everywhere but i cant seem to find one.
so i restored a really old backup of cm6 (which has rom manager 3.x), which i didnt even think was possible with CWM 3 and edify scripting, flashed amon ra in rom manager, and once i rebooted into recovery it was actually amon ra. i flashed the radio and all seems well. not sure why CM7 with rom manager 4 wouldnt correctly flash a recovery, but it seems resolved for me at least.
For future reference, it is just as easy and recommended to load amon RA via the bootloader as it is from the ROM Manager app.
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For future reference, it is just as easy and recommended to load amon RA via the bootloader as it is from the ROM Manager app.
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whats really the difference between flashing through the bootloader, flashing through rom manager, flashing through fastboot, or flashing through the command line with flash_image?
Obviously rom manager has problems, thats what this whole post is about. But as long as it actually does the flash there shouldnt be difference between the different methods of flashing should there?
You basically answered the question. It's not that ROM Manager is incapable, there have been times when it failed to flash recovery and there have been times when it didn't contain the latest RA recovery. Yea, those things are minor, but it is enough for me to discard using it. Besides, I'm always in the recovery itself so it is only natural for me to do everything from within recovery or the bootloader. But, to each his or her own.
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You basically answered the question. It's not that ROM Manager is incapable, there have been times when it failed to flash recovery and there have been times when it didn't contain the latest RA recovery. Yea, those things are minor, but it is enough for me to discard using it. Besides, I'm always in the recovery itself so it is only natural for me to do everything from within recovery or the bootloader. But, to each his or her own.
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Can i ask why you prefer amon ra over clockwork mod? Does one offer an advantage over the other? Does RA support edify scripting?
I was a faithful ClockworkMod user when I first rooted my device. I had no problems and no intention to switch until around version 3.x.x.x. after that, I started having issues with it not wiping properly so I switched over to amon RA. Although those problems have since been corrected, I have become quite accustomed to amon RA and until it fails me, I will stick with it. Furthermore, there have been times when people's devices have failed to properly boot or wouldn't allow access to recovery until they flashed amon RA. I like its menu layout and how well it works, but that's just me...
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My phone is screwed up!

My md5 sum is messed up and can't restore any backups. When I metamorph I get boot loops and have to wipe every thing and clean install. Clock work recovery won't flash different recoveries even though it says it does. Can I fix my phone?! ? ! ?
of course it can be fixed, if it turns on. I take it you have s-off, if you do you need to download a PC36IMG.zip recovery and flash it through the bootloader.
Here is the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026&highlight=recovery
put that on the root of your sd card and then pull the battery out, put it back, then hold vol-down & power until the bootloader pops up. it will scan the file then select vol-up to install. When it's done, vol-down to not reboot, then select recovery and presto your back in business
And another reason why I always say don't use CWM or ROM Manger......
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And another reason why I always say don't use CWM or ROM Manger......
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+1 on that
I have been flashing recovery through the boot loader. Cwm and amon ra both. Still no luck.
Bastafari said:
I have been flashing recovery through the boot loader. Cwm and amon ra both. Still no luck.
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Find the Amon Ra thread in the development section.
Mater of fact, here it is. Rename this to PC36IMG.zip by deleting everything in the name after that, put it on your SD Card, not in any folders. power down.
Hold Vol Dwn & Power til Hboot comes up. It'll do a scan, find the file and ask you to update, hit yes, then it will reboot back to Hboot again. This time, hit no and then hit recovery.
Wipe EVERYTHING, except the SD Card, itself, then flash your ROM in Recovery
I think I fixed it. The only thing I wasn't wiping was my cache partition. Never have before. Gave it a shot and seems to have fixed my issues. Thanks guys.
Do you all use Ra recovery or cwm?
Amon Ra, FTW
And when you wipe, really, wipe everything except the SD Card like I said above
Okay I lied. When I reboot or try to metamorph I get boot loops. Wiped everything. Flashed three different recoveries. Same problem. except for maybe my stock sprint sense nandroid but I haven't tried metamorphing anything there. Any ideas?
Yeah, I have one idea; WTF is metamorphing????????
Lol. Metamorphimg is when I use metamorph to flash mods like themes or animations.
Bastafari said:
Lol. Metamorphimg is when I use metamorph to flash mods like themes or animations.
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OK, well, I never heard of that, but it sounds like another way to cheat the System, like ROM Manager, Kernel Manager.
Just do everything in Recovery, really. Because you seem to have the same problems that people have when they use the apps I listed.
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OK, well, I never heard of that, but it sounds like another way to cheat the System, like ROM Manager, Kernel Manager.
Just do everything in Recovery, really. Because you seem to have the same problems that people have when they use the apps I listed.
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Hey HipKat, I think it is editing apks and jars, mostly for the purpose of themes. Link to what it is here: http://code.google.com/p/android-metamorph/
Okay keeping fingers crossed. Seems to be good now just had to wipe and do clean installs a million times. Using team win recovery.
Just to add I think what was screwing me up was my titanium backup. Don't know why. All I did was flash recoveries from Amon Ra to CWM and back (had to update prl from sprint ROM). So I only restored apps not data. But maybe it wasn't that at all....

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