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Help needed, dead BA

Well, as always XDA developers is what you use when noone else helps you, my freaking BA is acting strange:
1. The phone doesnt turn on when the battery is in. Tried charging the battery 100% and switching it on but it just doesnt turn on.
2. Now when I place the BA in the cradle, the phone turns on but it just keeps on restarting.
Somebody please help me out.
The phone worked fine until when I tried to tape the body and the battery with cello tape, that is when it went dead, and now I have the two problems mentioned above.
Help me guys,
Thanks a ton all.

try a new battery.
and check the battery lock..

jack_brown12001 said:
Well, as always XDA developers is what you use when noone else helps you, my freaking BA is acting strange:
1. The phone doesnt turn on when the battery is in. Tried charging the battery 100% and switching it on but it just doesnt turn on.
2. Now when I place the BA in the cradle, the phone turns on but it just keeps on restarting.
Somebody please help me out.
The phone worked fine until when I tried to tape the body and the battery with cello tape, that is when it went dead, and now I have the two problems mentioned above.
Help me guys,
Thanks a ton all.
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You might have messed up the pins connecting the battery to the device. Also, the little lock for the battery could be damaged as well. Finally, your backup battery could have died also. Hopefully this will give you some guidance towards the root of the problem. Chef has a disassembly guide in his tutorial.

well thanks guys for those responses. My updates are:
1. Since the battery was over 3 years old, I have ordered a new battery (yeah i know i should've checked with another battery first but damn noone else i know uses this phone). So till my new battery arrives I just got to wait.
2. Regarding ezthunder's replies... well I checked the battery connectors on the phone, they seem to look alright to me (physically), how do i test them to check if they're alright, pls help.
Also, regarding the backup battery, damn i would now need to search the net to find a new one.
The battery locking clip seems to be fine and is locks the battery in place, if this is damaged, I'd be freaking damned to try and get this one fixed.
So guys, any DIY suggestions to get these things fixed would be welcome as I dont wanna brick my BA, freaking just put in a new LCD digitizer.

jack_brown12001 said:
well thanks guys for those responses. My updates are:
1. Since the battery was over 3 years old, I have ordered a new battery (yeah i know i should've checked with another battery first but damn noone else i know uses this phone). So till my new battery arrives I just got to wait.
2. Regarding ezthunder's replies... well I checked the battery connectors on the phone, they seem to look alright to me (physically), how do i test them to check if they're alright, pls help.
Also, regarding the backup battery, damn i would now need to search the net to find a new one.
The battery locking clip seems to be fine and is locks the battery in place, if this is damaged, I'd be freaking damned to try and get this one fixed.
So guys, any DIY suggestions to get these things fixed would be welcome as I dont wanna brick my BA, freaking just put in a new LCD digitizer.
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Let us know what happens when the new battery arrives and we'll go from there.

well my battery arrived yesterday, i put it in and tried to switch it on but alas nothing. Charged the battery full and put it in but no start up.
Just the same old problem, phone keeps restarting when in the cradle but nothing when out.
Help me guys............

Well still no response from the forum, however, I have a few updates and hope this could make it easier for someone to figure out the problem:
A strange thing happened yesterday -
1. when I disconnected the flex cable of the buttons and the keypad on the front panel from the main board and put the entire thing on the charging cradle. IT WORKED. I mean it didnt do the restarting problem, it worked perfect. However when I took it out of the cradle, it wont power on. While it was on on the cradle, i checked the internal battery and it showed 100% charge, which means that the internal battery is good.
2. Now back when I connected the flex cable to the connector on the board and power it on - nothing happens and when put in the cradle - the same restarting issue right after the statup screen.
So based on the above - what are your conclusions, is there a problem with the flex cable connector but then in that case it should start when taken out of the cradle.
And yes, its a new battery that I just got. So guess its not a problem with the battery...
Help me guys. I really want to get back my BA... it was such a pleasure to see it working in the cradle with mentioned in point 1 above.
PS. I left it on the charge for the whole night yesterday but no change when taken out of the cradle - just desperate to try anything to get it to work.

jack_brown12001 said:
Well still no response from the forum, however, I have a few updates and hope this could make it easier for someone to figure out the problem:
A strange thing happened yesterday -
1. when I disconnected the flex cable of the buttons and the keypad on the front panel from the main board and put the entire thing on the charging cradle. IT WORKED. I mean it didnt do the restarting problem, it worked perfect. However when I took it out of the cradle, it wont power on. While it was on on the cradle, i checked the internal battery and it showed 100% charge, which means that the internal battery is good.
2. Now back when I connected the flex cable to the connector on the board and power it on - nothing happens and when put in the cradle - the same restarting issue right after the statup screen.
So based on the above - what are your conclusions, is there a problem with the flex cable connector but then in that case it should start when taken out of the cradle.
And yes, its a new battery that I just got. So guess its not a problem with the battery...
Help me guys. I really want to get back my BA... it was such a pleasure to see it working in the cradle with mentioned in point 1 above.
PS. I left it on the charge for the whole night yesterday but no change when taken out of the cradle - just desperate to try anything to get it to work.
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Judging from this, it seems that there is a problem with the motherboard itself. I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like to me. You can probably get a new BA from Market Place. I have seen a few members selling them lately.

*bump* still waiting for some good soul to help me out with the prob... i really dont wanna lose this phone...blue angels are real beautiful babies to have around...

[Q] Bricked Wildfire cannot power up

Hi
in need of help here....
The phone was happily running CyanogenMod 7.1.0.1 and all was well.
Had the phone plugged into the mains for a recharge and all was as expected.
However the next time that I looked the phone was off without any lights.
I disconnected the charger and tried to reboot the phone, nada
tried rebooting to recovery and again nada.
The phone is completely dead.
tried changing the battery with a known good fully charged battery,
Still cant boot the phone at all and interestingly when connected to PC via USB the PC doesn't see the phone....
Desperately need plenty of help here
TIA

Can you go into HBOOT?

see my post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401784
It details how to fix a similar issue i had
Doing it this way will totally wipe all your data i'm afraid.
If you cant get into HBOOT i.e. powers on but just a blank screen, let me know, i should have a fix at home (i'm at work at the moment)

Thanks for getting back to me,
But the issue is the phone is bricked ie cannot boot at all...
need the help

Arfer said:
Thanks for getting back to me,
But the issue is the phone is bricked ie cannot boot at all...
need the help
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so no power to the phone at all? what happens when you connect to PC? does the charge LED come on?

No nothing at all, as I mentioned earlier no lights and the PC does not see it at all..any thoughts? TIA

Mmmmm seems like its a gonna mate.
Last attempt I'd try removing battery and leave it out for about 20mins,then replace and without turning it on or pressing any buttons plug charger in and leave for as long as you can. Try at LEAST 10 hours then try turning it on. Sorry can't think of anything else more to try.
" once its gone,its GONE."

Thanks for that I'll give it a try overnight and post back

Arfer said:
Thanks for that I'll give it a try overnight and post back
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yeah try that and ive just remembered something too but not sure if it was wildfire related but i think it might be worth a mention.
sometimes the chargers have faults and need replacing so lets throw that into the pot too. if the over night power down charge doesnt work maybe try a different charger as a final last resort. really hope its as simple as that for you cos to be honest its not a bad little phone to have.
regards slymobi.

Tried as you suggested, same result. Will try and borrow a known working charger but won't be able to organize it until the weekend. Will post back then.
Thanks for now and best regards Arfer

Ah gutted. Lets hope its the charger then mate. Could try a USB charge whilst you wait for mains charger. Just try off power charge from USB this time.
" once its gone,its GONE."

Arfer said:
Hi
Desperately need plenty of help here
TIA
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i have a nokia 3310 you can have as a replacement.

Thanks for all the help but all to no avail. Technically speaking it's dead. Thanks anyway.

sorry mate, but i think the time has come

Arfer said:
Thanks for all the help but all to no avail. Technically speaking it's dead. Thanks anyway.
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really good excuse for an upgrade though!
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

That's a good positive way to look at it ! Shame my wallet is now fully into it's own post Xmas "economic downturn"

I know this sounds like a noobish trick but I was in a similar boat today.
I ran out of juice today during school, so when I got home I plugged my phone in. Nada from it. Cut to the chase, I run CM7.1.0.1_buzz like you with CWM(2.5.0.7 I think).
Took the battery out, and pushed the white button in on it (assuming it's a reset button for the battery controller). Threw the battery back in the phone and plugged it in. I then had a red flashing light, which from what I've seen myself, just means the phone is completely flat (I've seen it twice and my battery still works, no replacement). So I'm leaving it to charge since last time I had it, a full charge got rid of the red flashing light to a solid red light (the normal charging one). I thought I had a brick too since I OC'd it since I rooted a long time ago.
Good luck!
EDIT: Forgot to add, I couldn't get in to HBOOT

Thanks for the battery button tip. Didn't work for me, have also tried putting in my mate's fully charged battery and it won't boot...the phone is no more

[Q] [Help] usb charging and mounting problem

Hi guys, any help would be appreciated. Basically in order to charge my phone i have to plug the cable in and reboot my phone so it knows its charging even when this is done it doesnt charge correctly as it usually jumps 50-60% after the reboot. Then using throughout the day it will drop suddenly then tell me its charging even though its not plugged in and the battery % actually goes up. This was fairly amusing but now im worried. The second problem is now my computer no longer regonises my phone saying its malfuctioned and my phone doesnt know its plugged in untill after a reboot where it will charge but again not register its plugged into a computer.
To me its seems like a software fault however after a data wipe/factory reset and battery stats wipe and reflash the problem persits. I am on AOKP M4 with latest franco nightly.
Ive put it down to three things that i did that night:
1) accidently plugged it into my tablet charger
2)used the fast charge on franco's app i have disabled this with no effect
3)Had a system UI crash after my torch went funny
Edit: Tablet charger output is 5.3v, 2.0A for my touchpad

Lol, this seems to be quite a big problem.. I did a quick search on this forum over the last two months, and found these threads with the same problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1448283
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534134
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535394
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1520955
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529608
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526139
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526976
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1509485
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1482025
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504271
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1505227
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497439
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1484321
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1489785
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1474450
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393981
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472069
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1463009
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453130
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451685
See also http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=23789 with 200+ comments + unknown number of stars. Please comment in this!
This is the biggest thread here on XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427539
The problem is a faulty USB port, and Samsung/Google really should take action on this!
I took action myself and changed it myself..

Thanks
Wow ok thanks, I did do a little search nothing seemed exactly like my problem but yes a few of them threads do so thanks for putting all that leg work in hah. Ah if i opened it up don't think i could put it back together. Thanks for the advice.

Xperia Play red light

Hi,
yesterday I bought a used R800i, the seller said I just need to charge the Battery. So back at home i plugged it to a charger an the LED near the power button startet blinking. First I thought it´s not a big deal but after a couple of hours it was clear that this is not alrigt. Even if i remove the battery the red light keeps blinking continuous (not 3 times or something similar, just every second once). I don´t know if it´s a software or hardware bug but could you help me to get it fixed?
best Regards
Lukas

It could be empty battery (but voltage level is not high enough to start charging).
Check with flashtool can you enter flash mode or fastboot mode (if you can, then it's probably empty battery)
If you can, check voltage level of battery with voltmeter.
It can be that motherboard is dead, but to be sure, you must know what is voltage level of battery.
For now, try leaving it charging, it might take some time (few hours or more) to actually start charging...
Sent from my R800i using XDA Free mobile app

Over USB i only get unkown device, but USB with the Test Point works, measuring the Batter was 0 Volts but charging over hours didn´t help

Lukas94 said:
Over USB i only get unkown device, but USB with the Test Point works, measuring the Batter was 0 Volts but charging over hours didn´t help
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If battery have 0 volts then it's dead and (most likely) can't be charged anymore. You need new battery, so you can know is motherboard is working or not.
But that is just my opinion, and i could be wrong...
Maybe to try and charge battery from external source of 5V power , easiest way is cut some usb cable or take two wires from PC's molex connector (red is +5V, black is GND) and charge it for shortly (about 30sec-1min) and measure does it have at least 3.2V. Repeat short charging untill it does. If it stay on 0V then is dead for sure.

I was really able to charge the battery over a cut USB cable. I got it to boot until lookscreen (digitizer does not response) but then the battery turned hot and the Xperia shut down. I ordered now a new battery then it should work again

Lukas94 said:
I was really able to charge the battery over a cut USB cable. I got it to boot until lookscreen (digitizer does not response) but then the battery turned hot and the Xperia shut down. I ordered now a new battery then it should work again
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Digitizer not working could be faulty slider-flex cable or simply software error due overheating. You'll know with new battery...

Flex Cable looks like this, should I get a new one?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mixy0lczvb3hb3c/IMG_20140912_201712.jpg?dl=0

Lukas94 said:
Flex Cable looks like this, should I get a new one?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mixy0lczvb3hb3c/IMG_20140912_201712.jpg?dl=0
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Yes, that's slider flex cable.
But wait untill you get new battery. Then you'll know does it have more problems or it is working normally

Sad News, today I got the new battery and i was even able to boot up the phone, but like the last time i was able to boot it up the battery and the mainboard got hot. I think the loading circuit is broken. So there are two options 1. buy a external charger for the batterie or 2. sell the phone as rarely used on ebay
No really I´m selling it, even if i get a charger theres also the problem with the not working digitzer. Thanks for your Help but this is ways to big for me.
Regards Lukas

Lukas94 said:
Sad News, today I got the new battery and i was even able to boot up the phone, but like the last time i was able to boot it up the battery and the mainboard got hot. I think the loading circuit is broken. So there are two options 1. buy a external charger for the batterie or 2. sell the phone as rarely used on ebay
No really I´m selling it, even if i get a charger theres also the problem with the not working digitzer. Thanks for your Help but this is ways to big for me.
Regards Lukas
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Sorry to hear that. Obviously problem is much bigger and hard to tell what is wrong without some proffesional look into it (lot of reasons for phone to get hot by itself - there is short circuit somewhere and that's why it's draing battery fast and causing overheating). I don't think external charger will solve problems.
Anyway, good luck :good:

Phone won't charge, also I think it tries to turn on by itself

Hello!
My phone suddenly stopped charging... and now it is dead... now... like every 3 or 5 minutes, it vibrates by itself, even if unplugged... Anyone heard of this issue?
More info in my last post:
I'm unlocked, rooted, xposed, installed Beanstalk ROM, etc... But I did that months ago (I don't know, 6 months ago?) and it has been working flaglessly, I didnt do ANY change prior to this problem (really, no changes, not even a new appp installed or removed in months)
So I really think it is something in the usb charger.... Maybe I'm wrong and it got bricked somehow... please validate that.
Also, it still vibrating at least once every five minutes. (I woke up all night with it vibrating and now it is on my desk and it still does it)
I just tried an adb wait-for-devices and nothing happens, also tried to reboot it the same way and nothing happens.
Now, I remember that I did something before the phone turned off (battery ran off) I deactivated an Xposed module (latalysm or somethign like that) and didn't reboot it to complete the deactivation. Maybe it has something to do with 0% battery and that?
I really don't think so... But your advice is really welcome.
Thank you in advance.

Did you rooted or unlocked?

Cryorus said:
Hello!
My phone suddenly stopped charging... and now it is dead... now... like every 3 or 5 minutes, it vibrates by itself, even if unplugged... Anyone heard of this issue?
Thank you in advance.
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You are bricked .
Check unbricking threads...

I'm unlocked, rooted, xposed, installed Beanstalk ROM, etc... But I did that months ago (I don't know, 6 months ago?) and it has been working flaglessly, I didnt do ANY change prior to this problem (really, no changes, not even a new appp installed or removed in months)
So I really think it is something in the usb charger.... Maybe I'm wrong and it got bricked somehow... please validate that.
Also, it still vibrating at least once every five minutes. (I woke up all night with it vibrating and now it is on my desk and it still does it)
Edit: I just tried an adb wait-for-devices and nothing happens, also tried to reboot it the same way and nothing happens.
Now, I remember that I did something before the phone turned off (battery ran off) I deactivated an Xposed module (latalysm or somethign like that) and didn't reboot it to complete the deactivation. Maybe it has something to do with 0% battery and that?
I really don't think so... But your advice is really welcome.
Thank you in advance
Regards!

New data:
When I pluggin the phone to the PC, the PC plays the "hardware detection sound" but then it disconnects too. Maybe it has something to do with the battery or something related?
Thank you in advance, phone is still dead.
Mario.

Well... my phone is now even more dead... I think the problem is the battery, even if I try to charge it doesn't even get warm, I replaced the usb piece of the phone expecting that it was something with that but no... Now I'm waiting to get a replacement battery.
Anyone heard of the same issue? I've found many people having the same issue, but most of them solved the problem unplugging the battery and then plugging it back again.
Please help!
Regards.

Cryorus said:
Well... my phone is now even more dead... I think the problem is the battery, even if I try to charge it doesn't even get warm, I replaced the usb piece of the phone expecting that it was something with that but no... Now I'm waiting to get a replacement battery.
Anyone heard of the same issue? I've found many people having the same issue, but most of them solved the problem unplugging the battery and then plugging it back again.
Please help!
Regards.
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I have exactly the same problem. It's like the phone is not charging at all. Have you tried taking the battery out and then in?
Small update: I've tried 4 different chargers and god knows how many different cables, tried connecting it to the PC, nothing seems to help.

NiKiToS-04 said:
I have exactly the same problem. It's like the phone is not charging at all. Have you tried taking the battery out and then in?
Small update: I've tried 4 different chargers and god knows how many different cables, tried connecting it to the PC, nothing seems to help.
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Yes I tried that 2 months ago... But yesterday... I arrived home and tried to charge again, waited about 2 hours, turned it in and pop... I have the phone again (I keep losing phone and data signal, but... come on, it is on now)... So I don't know... I heard many times that pluging in and off the battery and "waiting" seemed to work for a lot of people, but come on... 2 months?
Regards.

I have exactly the same problem. I have replace the battery. The problem still again with the new battery

hugo06 said:
I have exactly the same problem. I have replace the battery. The problem still again with the new battery
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Wow... so the problem is not the battery... then it is really weird, how can just "waiting" be the solution?
Hugo, how long have you been with your phone turned off?

One month, the time to receive the new battery

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One month, the time to receive the new battery
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That is a lot... I waited 2 months... sorry I don't know anything about the matter... but don't lose faith, maybe it will turn on again someday.... Advice, charge it and leave it charging for... a week? then try again.

I've decided to fiddle with a needle inside the USB charging port recently. After that my phone suddenly was recognised by the computer and started charging and working. After I connect it to the real charger, doesn't matter if it's original or not, it stops working and doesn't even charge from the PC. Then I have to fiddle inside the charging port and everything works again... wtf really? what can be dead?

NiKiToS-04 said:
I've decided to fiddle with a needle inside the USB charging port recently. After that my phone suddenly was recognised by the computer and started charging and working. After I connect it to the real charger, doesn't matter if it's original or not, it stops working and doesn't even charge from the PC. Then I have to fiddle inside the charging port and everything works again... wtf really? what can be dead?
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This seems like a different problem than ours... maybe you should try replacing the usb charging port.

Cryorus said:
This seems like a different problem than ours... maybe you should try replacing the usb charging port.
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I'm not so sure... It sound's more like I'm either grounding some contacts or I'm somehow short circuiting something. Maybe it could be a broken capacitor or something? That would explain why your phone started working after 2 month.
Well in any case it would be interesting íf somebody with that issue would try touching the contacts in the USB port with metal needle and connect the phone to the PC.
I've ordered a new USB thingy already and going to swap it soon, I'll keep you updated.

I have try to change the battery and the usb port. The battery work one time but won't charge. Can't say if it is the same issue or because is is a cheap battery
Any news NiKiToS?