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Well its official, Evo is getting 2.2 tommorow.
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/evo-4gs-android-2-2-update-starts-trickling-out-tomorrow-loads/
SO my question is...Stock OTA 2.2 or should I root and go for Cyanogenmod?
iball8888 said:
Well its official, Evo is getting 2.2 tommorow.
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/evo-4gs-android-2-2-update-starts-trickling-out-tomorrow-loads/
SO my question is...Stock OTA 2.2 or should I root and go for Cyanogenmod?
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I'm running CM6 now and I miss Sense, so I am going to install a rooted verison of the 2.2 OTA ASAP. The Evo is doesn't feel like the Evo without Sense, IMO.
cloud858rk said:
I'm running CM6 now and I miss Sense, so I am going to install a rooted verison of the 2.2 OTA ASAP. The Evo is doesn't feel like the Evo without Sense, IMO.
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wut ! lol CM6 = win
ASOP lacks polish in a few areas. SMS, dialer, contacts, call log.
It's beyond lack of polish really, it's like it was rushed and just thrown in as an after thought.
Sense in those same areas, especially the dialer, is much better.
All personal opinionthough as some people hate sense as much as I dislike ASOP.
You can easily find (often better) replacements for sense functions in the market. just sayin.
MSmith1 said:
You can easily find (often better) replacements for sense functions in the market. just sayin.
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true story
Copy-Paste in Sense, it pwns n00bs
Once the official 2.2 comes out it will make AOSP all that much better. The little bugs that are currently in cm6 will be rather shortly I bet. There are only two features of sence that I like over also...cut and paste and no hassle Facebook sync of contacts with birthdays and calander events.
With the release of the oficial froyo, cyanogen would get better, cyanogen would have everything working...
Remember when roms didnt have everything working, after htc release the source and 1.47 OTA, then in days the roms get everything working...
I got over 1600 in quadrant and 49.6 in linpack using cm6... for me, the root its the way to go...
I think the real question is, are you willing to flash stock 2.2 and lose root, possibly forever?
fr4nk1yn said:
ASOP lacks polish in a few areas. SMS, dialer, contacts, call log.
It's beyond lack of polish really, it's like it was rushed and just thrown in as an after thought.
Sense in those same areas, especially the dialer, is much better.
All personal opinionthough as some people hate sense as much as I dislike ASOP.
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It may lack polish, but Sense looks worn out.
Furthermore, although I agree the Sense dialer is better, the stock messaging app is better than the Sense version. The Sense version has a brief loading screen every time you open a thread, even if there is a single message in the tread. In addition, the stock messaging app shows your friends' gtalk status, which is a great feature.
Honestly, Sense means nothing to me.
Sense for WinMo makes sense...its need because Winmo navigation and such sucks. But Android does most of what Sense does in stock. I don;t see the big the deal about Sense.
Really it just depends on your personal preference. AOSP is great and has its weaknesses... as well as Sense. Try running both ROMs once they are officially released for a couple of days... see which one you like. Each user is different and uses their Evo differently than others... so it just comes down to preference.
Eep...DARN YOU PERSONAL PREFERNCE!!!
I was hoping someone would mention if there are huge bug fixes and more features compared to stock.
iball8888 said:
Eep...DARN YOU PERSONAL PREFERNCE!!!
I was hoping someone would mention if there are huge bug fixes and more features compared to stock.
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You will have alot more features with cyanogen then you will with stock... thats for sure
Yep...your linpack score will go up about 1-2% with cm6. Of course does it really make a difference? Don't know myself, going from baked snack to cm6 and linpack score of 9ish to 40ish didn't make a difference in anything I saw, and I missed Sense (personal preference and all).
The benefit of this forum and all the development here?
cm6 will only be one of many different 2.2 roms you will be able to try out. Have fun trying them all...I did, and I can't wait to try some new ones in the coming days and weeks! And it only takes 5 to 10th minutes to flash a new ROM and restore my titanium backup.
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I love Cyanogen 6, with a few exceptions.
#1 I like Sense widgets, I have looked for replacements on the market, but there is just no replacement. I have liked Rosie since it was leaked on the G1 a year ago.
#2 4G is coming to my area soon, and although I am sure Cyanogen will have fixed it given the next roll out, Froyo + Sense is all I am really after.
#3 In my opinion, its people like Cyanogen, Toast and friends that push HTC/Google to push out these ROMs. Sprint even included their own wireless tether thanks to the community.
#4 With the New advocation of Cellphone Hacking, there will be leaps and bounds with the next ROMs. I suspect that this roll out is just the beginning.
The only thing I would like in my Sense ROM is the Dialer from Cyanogen.
SilverZero said:
I think the real question is, are you willing to flash stock 2.2 and lose root, possibly forever?
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if this idea was possible then NO NEVER.
but..
inconceivable!
CM6 is very good, but lacks here and there because it's based off 2.2 from the Nexus. Even if some of the functions of the Evo were made to work, the code might not be as clean as a native Evo rom. I'm thinking Cyanogen may move all of his *extra* developments for the Evo over to the native 2.2 base. I can't wait to see what he does with it now that he doesn't have to worry so much about making all the stock functions of the Evo work
Sense >>> AOSP, just disable Rosie and use Launcher Pro.
CyanogenMod is still buggy and incomplete so the OTA tomorrow will be a much better at least for a while.
Are there any FULL AOSP (no sense at all) ROMs other than CM6 RC1? I cant stand sense and have been looking all over for a AOSP rom with working 4G and 8mp camera.
Thanks!
I could be wrong, but i think they are waiting on the kernal for the 4G. I think i read that somewhere, but like i said, i could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.
CM6 has 8mp camera working. Has been since day 1. If you think it's not because it doesn't fill up the whole screen, you are mistaken. By default HTC sets it to widescreen, but at that ratio it is actually losing resolution. People need to turn the widescreen off to get the full 8mp. The 6mp (wide) setting in CM6 is comparable to the default stock HTC setting.
EDIT: and no, there isn't any other true AOSP roms besides CM6.
OT: Can someone tell me what AOSP is?
Android open source project
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Android Open Source Project
edit: Oops, you beat me to it. I should refresh more often before posting i guess
More specifically, it is the absolute base of the Android operating system. It is where all the phone developers start, but then they weave in a bunch of their own custom software. I think the phone manufaturers want to differentiate each other and give them more of a brand (i.e. Sense). It's all fine and dandy, but some people just like to have the true base of the Android system and then choose what apps they clutter it up with instead of it being cluttered up to begin with.
Awesome, thanks for the explanation. AOSP sounds EXACTLY like what I'm looking for as I want to build my own android from the ground up...
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I could be wrong, but i think they are waiting on the kernal for the 4G. I think i read that somewhere, but like i said, i could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.
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Cyanogen is waiting on the kernel for 4G? There are plenty of custom froyo roms with root access and working 4G but none that dont have sense. Am I really the only one who hates sense? I cant believe that every custom froyo rom has sense!
Just download any rom, and run ADW instead. The only thing you're losing is the space on your phone that sense takes up, big deal.
ADW is the launcher used in CM, so if you liked that, you can have your stock froyo and 4g.
Also, it's your phone, and that's why we are here, to make our phones look and perform how we want, but what is it about sense that you hate? I personally think it brings a more human feel to Android. I ran with CM6 for like 5 days, and while it's a great ROM, I just missed the things sense gives you. I actually got better benchmarks on DC 3.5 than CM6 too, even though there is no actual noticible difference between the two performance wise.
A lot of people say that Sense isn't needed since 2.2, but I disagree, it's not just about the functionality, it's about the form too. Sense just plain looks better. It give the phone a more polished feel. Stock android is very Spartan, very cold. Some people like that I guess.
I for one don't like the forced integration of things like facebook in sense. I run a very spartan (to use your terminology) setup... I like clean... Same with my desktop pc. I don't like desktop icons either
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the HTC 4G stack is propriartary. CM is AOSP.
Clearwire released their 4G implementation a few weeks ago. someone is actively working to get it working on the EVO.
we are impatiently waiting for 4G. only ROM's that are Sense based currently have 4G. AOSP will not. perhaps this week
and no...you are FAR from the only one that is happy to be rid of HTC Sense.
What about getting the stock Froyo keyboard? How do we get that on a sense rom?
Some people made 2.1 roms that were sense, but had most of the AOSP apps swapped in and sense replacements removed.
There are a couple kinda like that for 2.2, Android Central has a stripped rom, and FroYo fusion has a senseless version, but I haven't used it or even seen screenshots, so I don't know what it is like.
Avalaunch started on an AOSP 2.1 build, but he kinda scrapped it for his custom Sense stuff.
Right now the CM team is implementing everything from scratch, which is why some things don't work like 4G, and HDMI. No other phones had this before. The reason all the Sense Roms work is because the sense framework has all the parts that are needed.
One nice thing about CM is if you don't install gapps, you can get the source code to every bit of the OS running on your phone.
clamknuckle said:
Just download any rom, and run ADW instead. The only thing you're losing is the space on your phone that sense takes up, big deal.
ADW is the launcher used in CM, so if you liked that, you can have your stock froyo and 4g.
Also, it's your phone, and that's why we are here, to make our phones look and perform how we want, but what is it about sense that you hate? I personally think it brings a more human feel to Android. I ran with CM6 for like 5 days, and while it's a great ROM, I just missed the things sense gives you. I actually got better benchmarks on DC 3.5 than CM6 too, even though there is no actual noticible difference between the two performance wise.
A lot of people say that Sense isn't needed since 2.2, but I disagree, it's not just about the functionality, it's about the form too. Sense just plain looks better. It give the phone a more polished feel. Stock android is very Spartan, very cold. Some people like that I guess.
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with sense you cant use wii controller
htc limit the capacities of you device i dont know why!!
-limit performance
-limit graphics
-limit bluetooth
limit limit limit!!!
the only thing missing on cm6 is 4g with that it will be perfect
Exchange support is missing from CM 6 also.
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kaokollaa said:
with sense you cant use wii controller
htc limit the capacities of you device i dont know why!!
-limit performance
-limit graphics
-limit bluetooth
limit limit limit!!!
the only thing missing on cm6 is 4g with that it will be perfect
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lulz.....
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I find it frustrating, but they do it because their target audience isn't people like you and me. They use a custom bluetooth stack so they have control over it, it is easier for them to make sure that everyone's expensive headset and car stereo work. They limit performance and graphics to get better battery life and stability. They created Sense to make the interface more appealing to people who would otherwise be turned off by AOSP and buy an iPhone instead (even though Android is WAY better for social networking integration).
I'm kinda bummed we haven't been able to just grab N1 roms and hack them over more often. It's kinda strange. The Aria (Liberty) had an AOSP Legend port within weeks of release. Here we are 2 full months out and we have ROMs based off HTC's work, and CM. That's it.
Antebios said:
Exchange support is missing from CM 6 also.
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Also FM Radio, HDMI output, updating PRL.
Not complaining about the team douche work, but more that we don't have other devs working on AOSP. I don't care much about the missing features, and run CM as my daily. Sometimes I'll flash to a sense ROM to get 4G for tethering to my PC, but this is rare, and nandroid makes it very quick to flash back and forth when needed.
Actually... I thought Exchange support was there but just having issues for some (possibly many) people.
Antebios said:
Exchange support is missing from CM 6 also.
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this is totally wrong. I live on Exchange daily for work. if CM6 were not able to get my exchange email or notify me properly I would be using it. I have been on CM6 since RC1 second day and most of the nightly builds since.
please check your resources before posting such statements.
clamknuckle said:
Just download any rom, and run ADW instead. The only thing you're losing is the space on your phone that sense takes up, big deal.
ADW is the launcher used in CM, so if you liked that, you can have your stock froyo and 4g.
Also, it's your phone, and that's why we are here, to make our phones look and perform how we want
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Youre right about ADW.. I already downloaded that launcher. However, I like the custom themes that come with the non sense ROMs. Such as CM6's music player, or the window pane (if you will) theme for the camera, etc. If you dont know how to program, which i dont, you are somewhat limited with what you can do in terms of customization.
DraginMagik said:
the HTC 4G stack is propriartary. CM is AOSP.
Clearwire released their 4G implementation a few weeks ago. someone is actively working to get it working on the EVO.
we are impatiently waiting for 4G. only ROM's that are Sense based currently have 4G. AOSP will not. perhaps this week
and no...you are FAR from the only one that is happy to be rid of HTC Sense.
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This sounds like GREAT news to me. I hope youre correct. I think im just gonna go back to CM6 for now. It was a great rom and I can only use 4G at work so its not that big of a deal to me. The only other issue I had with CM6 was the inability to split a >160 character text message into two messages.
Can anyone remind me if the 8mp camera was working? I cant remember which kernel cm6 used.
The 8mp camara works. When you click the settings on the right of the screen the settings within the box that pops out scroll. 8mp is selected by defult
first, im new to android so please bear with me. i've searched and cant find info on what i'm looking for, so if i missed it please just forward me to where i need to go.
i have an evo 4g that came with android 2.1, but i've updated to 2.2. i've read about rooting your android phone and i understand what thats about. i've also read only that you can root and remove the sense ui, just leaving the stock android platform.
once the phone is rooted, do you just uninstall htc sense? if not, do you need to load a different rom? if so, i've seen a poll that said cm6.1 and warm wyn or whatever were the top two. would i just flash that rom?
thanks for the help...
You can do both, either flash a ROM or uninstall sense
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There are plenty of "non-sense" ROMS but if you want AOSP then you should just flash CM6.
there is a difference between no sense and aosp. non sense means the sense launcher is gone (you have a replacement from the market) which speeds up your phone by quite a bit. aosp is like what is on the nexus one. stock android. myn (not wyn) has the most highly respected non-sense rom for it's deep mods and slick tweaks. cyanogenmod is really held the hughest on the rom developer tower of respect for him and his team building a full on aosp rom from the ground up. it has many, and i mean many, things that were simply not put into android. it really is great. i switched away because i could not live without my sense widgets.
i perfer ava froyo (v10 is coming very soon) but it is sense, so boo hoo.
ok thats good. i like the look of cyanogenmod. as for uninstalling sense, i assume that i'll have to root to do that. has anyone actually done that?
i've been wanting to flash cyanogenmod, but have concerns. is there a way to save the rom that i have now before i flash? i want something to roll back to incase something goes wrong with the flash.
Both my Brother and I like the Sense UI, I am a big fan of Myn's Sense based ROM's after trying out the many other different ROM's based off CM 7, or other variants, I always come back to Sense.
Anyways been rocking Myn's RS 5 for months, my most favorite and stable ROM for me. I told my Brother he needs a good ROM, not just a standard root, he said he does have a good ROM, it's called HTC EVO 4G , meaning the stock phone, he doesn't see the point in what a sense based ROM could possibly add or do for him ?
What would you Sense ROM's guys/gals have to add or say to this ?
In my opinion, some roms might have a few tweaks in them but most of the roms that I see now are just themed stock roms.
I don't want to seem like I'm not giving credit to the devs for everything they do, but it seems like many "roms" should just be in the theme section as they are just built off some other devs work.
Zorachus said:
Both my Brother and I like the Sense UI, I am a big fan of Myn's Sense based ROM's after trying out the many other different ROM's based off CM 7, or other variants, I always come back to Sense.
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You are not alone and Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS-5 is one of my favorites and IS my favorite Sense rom.
Anyways been rocking Myn's RS 5 for months, my most favorite and stable ROM for me. I told my Brother he needs a good ROM, not just a standard root, he said he does have a good ROM, it's called HTC EVO 4G , meaning the stock phone, he doesn't see the point in what a sense based ROM could possibly add or do for him ?
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First of all, understand that his "stock phone" is Sense-based. HTC Sense comes default on the EVO 4G. Anyway, your brother seems to be totally satisfied with what he has and has no plans to switch. If that is the case, let him be. If he wasn't impressed with the classy and elegant look of Myn's rom then I doubt he'll be convinced to change from the stock Sense look....
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Been wondering the same thing....
For the most part, seems like I mine as well re-flash to stock sense. Remove whatever bloatware/etc and apply themes as I like. With maybe a kernel change.
In the end, thats all a "custom rom" is if Im not mistaken... Kernel + Themes, sometimes with a poor implementation that causes things to break.
cloud007 said:
Been wondering the same thing....
For the most part, seems like I mine as well re-flash to stock sense. Remove whatever bloatware/etc and apply themes as I like. With maybe a kernel change.
In the end, thats all a "custom rom" is if Im not mistaken... Kernel + Themes, sometimes with a poor implementation that causes things to break.
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Some roms are just themes, other roms have some tweaks to them. Usually, people use the framework from one developer and just theme it up. Some just use a stock rom and theme it up.
Its not fair to some developers to say that they have not tweaked their rom at all but just add some color and a battery percentage indicator or a splash screen.
Taking a Sense 2.0 rom from one device and porting it over to a device that came defaulted with Sense 1.0 and making it work is more than merely adding themes. Furthermore, many of the talented devs started out by merely customizing their devices to suit their personal tastes, hence the name "custom" roms. Other people liked their customization which prompted them to make it available to anyone who wanted it. Still, custom roms are not for everyone. Guys like Myn, xHAUSx, Koni, TommyTomatoe and a boatload of others are very talented at what they do and should be recognized as such...at least in my opinion...
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Some roms are just themes, other roms have some tweaks to them. Usually, people use the framework from one developer and just theme it up. Some just use a stock rom and theme it up.
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Sure, but what kinda tweaks are we talking about? Thats what Im asking more or less.
CM for instance, to me, feels like a stock AOSP rom with their custom Kernel. They obviously did a good bit more by customizing the kernel n such, but as I said before... I could just flash their kernel + use whatever themes I want, no?
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Its not fair to some developers to say that they have not tweaked their rom at all but just add some color and a battery percentage indicator or a splash screen.
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My understanding is that battery indicator, boot animations, etc fall into the theme category.
Stock vs Rooted:
Rooted ROMs are optimized.
Better A2SD functionality.
Better battery life.
FREE WIFI TETHERING!
No bloatware.
Ability to theme.
Ability to do a LOT more things with your phone. Change lockscreens etc.
Ability to get full HDMI mirroring.
Sense vs AOSP:
AOSP is usually faster as Sense takes up space.
Sense has better widgets.
AOSP + 3rd party launcher like Launcher Pro + Beautiful widgets can give you the same things as Sense with a performance gain.
Landscape functionality for homescreens
Sense is a launcher. There are launcher replacements such as LauncherPro, ADW, and SPB Shell 3D. LauncherPro and ADW are more a lot faster than HTC is. LauncherPro has widgets for calendar and Friends which is similar to Sense. Beautiful widgets can give you a Sense like clock and weather animations.
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Stock vs Rooted:
Rooted ROMs are optimized.
Better A2SD functionality.
Better battery life.
FREE WIFI TETHERING!
No bloatware.
Ability to theme.
Ability to do a LOT more things with your phone. Change lockscreens etc.
Ability to get full HDMI mirroring.
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Are the roms optimized or is the Kenerel optimized? That was my original question . Thus far, roms feel like UI packages with a kernel of the devs choice.
If Im not mistaken... battery life would be dependent on the Kernel, not the rom.
Stock vs Rooted was never a question. Im running Warm2.2 atm and considering going back to Rooted Stock (as the OPs brother has done).
As my Stock will be rooted, I wont have bloatware. I will be able to theme, mirror HDMI, change lockscreens/bootanimations,etc
Sense vs AOSP:
AOSP is usually faster as Sense takes up space.
Sense has better widgets.
AOSP + 3rd party launcher like Launcher Pro + Beautiful widgets can give you the same things as Sense with a performance gain.
Landscape functionality for homescreens[/QUOTE]
CM7 RC3 is the only AOSP rom I used. Used it for a week then moved back to a sense rom. My main gripes with it were the lousy Dialer, Widgets, and I dont really care for the camera UI either. However someone in IRC pointed me to the GO Dialer, in turn I found Go Weather, Go SMS, Go Launcher... these have all solved most of my gripes, with the exception of the Dialer. CM7 RC3 also seemed to be rather batter hungry and always had an annoying notification about dialing *28 for voicemail when I had none.
Aside from this, don't AOSP roms also lack some core functionality that Sense roms have? I don't remember the specifics, but IIRC, no HDMI, many lack 4G, etc.
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Taking a Sense 2.0 rom from one device and porting it over to a device that came defaulted with Sense 1.0 and making it work is more than merely adding themes. Furthermore, many of the talented devs started out by merely customizing their devices to suit their personal tastes, hence the name "custom" roms. Other people liked their customization which prompted them made it available to anyone who wanted it. Still, custom roms are not for everyone. Guys like Myn, xHAUSx, Koni, TommyTomatoe and a boatload of others are very talented at what they do and should be recognized as such...at least in my opinion...
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Good post, I agree
dougjamal said:
Taking a Sense 2.0 rom from one device and porting it over to a device that came defaulted with Sense 1.0 and making it work is more than merely adding themes. Furthermore, many of the talented devs started out by merely customizing their devices to suit their personal tastes, hence the name "custom" roms. Other people liked their customization which prompted them to make it available to anyone who wanted it. Still, custom roms are not for everyone. Guys like Myn, xHAUSx, Koni, TommyTomatoe and a boatload of others are very talented at what they do and should be recognized as such...at least in my opinion...
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I also totally agree with this. It should also be noted that along with an upgraded sense, some of these other ROMs give you an update to Gingerbread. Just something else to take into consideration when it comes to reasons for switching ROMs.
cloud007 said:
Are the roms optimized or is the Kenerel optimized? That was my original question . Thus far, roms feel like UI packages with a kernel of the devs choice.
If Im not mistaken... battery life would be dependent on the Kernel, not the rom.
Stock vs Rooted was never a question. Im running Warm2.2 atm and considering going back to Rooted Stock (as the OPs brother has done).
As my Stock will be rooted, I wont have bloatware. I will be able to theme, mirror HDMI, change lockscreens/bootanimations,etc
Sense vs AOSP:
AOSP is usually faster as Sense takes up space.
Sense has better widgets.
AOSP + 3rd party launcher like Launcher Pro + Beautiful widgets can give you the same things as Sense with a performance gain.
Landscape functionality for homescreens
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CM7 RC3 is the only AOSP rom I used. Used it for a week then moved back to a sense rom. My main gripes with it were the lousy Dialer, Widgets, and I dont really care for the camera UI either. However someone in IRC pointed me to the GO Dialer, in turn I found Go Weather, Go SMS, Go Launcher... these have all solved most of my gripes, with the exception of the Dialer. CM7 RC3 also seemed to be rather batter hungry and always had an annoying notification about dialing *28 for voicemail when I had none.
Aside from this, don't AOSP roms also lack some core functionality that Sense roms have? I don't remember the specifics, but IIRC, no HDMI, many lack 4G, etc.[/QUOTE]
In the past yes. I was on a sense based ROM for awhile but constantly switched between that and CM. Finally when CM7 reverse engineered 4G and HDMI, I've been rocking that out like it's going out of style. I just love how speedy and responsive it is. Thought honestly, in my opinion, if you put enough widgets and crap on the home screens like there are in Sense based ROMs the speed will even out. Just from what I've experienced though.
I want to install the Incredikernel since I hear is so good and I am running the OTA Unofficial Froyo 2.2 Rom from incredibleroms.com. I am rooted and everything. Can I install the Kernel? And how do I install it?
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start here- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035923&highlight=kernal+how+to
then here- http://www.theincrediblelist.com/kernels/incredikernel.html
Basiclly find your ROM you wish to flash, good place to start is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Then finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Always read, read, read, search, search, Google, read and read lol. Hope this helps
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start here- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035923&highlight=kernal+how+to
then here- http://www.theincrediblelist.com/kernels/incredikernel.html
Basiclly find your ROM you wish to flash, good place to start is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Then finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Always read, read, read, search, search, Google, read and read lol. Hope this helps
Much thanks to
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ithrewitontheground
Jacksonroh
cvbcbcmv
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Thats really good information. But how do i know weather I am running AOSP or SENSE? Like I said I have the OTA Unofficial 2.2 Froyo Update, and I know AOSP means it started from scratch but I dont know wether the Rom i installed is, how can I figure this out through the phone or can you just tell me
It sounds like you're on a sense rom. Sense is HTC's skin for android, it adds certain functionalities and features (primarily social networking). If you have HTC apps (check settings>applications>manage applications) then you're using a sense rom. Do you have HTC sense widgets available to add to your screens? Then it's sense.
Chad has an incredikernel for froyo (android 2.2) sense roms, it should be near the bottom office the OP of his incredikernel thread. If you want to use his latest kernels, they are only for AOSP gingerbread (android 2.3) roms. AOSP roms for the incredible include cyanogenmod, MIUI, OMGB & OMFGB, IncDeck, evervolv, and liquid light.
I suppose you could say AOSP (android open source project) roms are built from scratch, but it might be more accurate to say built from source, the source being Google's. Just about every phone is shipped with the manufacturer's "version" of android on it, sense for HTC, blur for Motorola, touchwiz for Samsung. Only Google's nexus devices ship with the unmolested "stock" version of android, and that's why they are always the first to receive updates. Hopefully this info helps!
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It sounds like you're on a sense rom. Sense is HTC's skin for android, it adds certain functionalities and features (primarily social networking). If you have HTC apps (check settings>applications>manage applications) then you're using a sense rom. Do you have HTC sense widgets available to add to your screens? Then it's sense.
Chad has an incredikernel for froyo (android 2.2) sense roms, it should be near the bottom office the OP of his incredikernel thread. If you want to use his latest kernels, they are only for AOSP gingerbread (android 2.3) roms. AOSP roms for the incredible include cyanogenmod, MIUI, OMGB & OMFGB, IncDeck, evervolv, and liquid light.
I suppose you could say AOSP (android open source project) roms are built from scratch, but it might be more accurate to say built from source, the source being Google's. Just about every phone is shipped with the manufacturer's "version" of android on it, sense for HTC, blur for Motorola, touchwiz for Samsung. Only Google's nexus devices ship with the unmolested "stock" version of android, and that's why they are always the first to receive updates. Hopefully this info helps!
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Thanks so much man
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No problem. If I helped and you feel so inclined, feel free to hit the thanks button
Does anyone Have SkyRaider 4.2? If so what kernel you running and what benefits are you gaining?
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Does anyone Have SkyRaider 4.2? If so what kernel you running and what benefits are you gaining?
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Using Incredikernel; so far runs good.
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Alright can you help me locate a Rom of my liking?
I really like the Stock rom, but I want a AOSP Rom. I basically just want it to have the Stock HTC Launcher but I dont want it to be so slow for instance, for me Skyraider 4.2 is slow because it takes five times the length of time for it to Boot Up then using the Stock 2.2 unofficial OTA.
Is Binny Rom a AOSP rom? And I dont want to lose the 8MP camera or 720p HD Recordings.
Well, if you need 720P, there aren't any AOSP gingerbread roms that will work. Also, if you want the HTC launcher, you'll need to be on a sense rom, there's no way to use it on AOSP.
That said, what are you looking for in a rom? Skyraider is a very solid rom, and will be very similar in functionality and stability to the stock rom. I don't know why it would take so much longer to boot, are you using the stock skyaider kernel or another one?
Let me know what features you have to have in a rom and we'll figure it out. Unless you read through all the rom threads (like I do for some reason), it can be hard to tell what the feature and especially functionality differences are.
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Well, if you need 720P, there aren't any AOSP gingerbread roms that will work. Also, if you want the HTC launcher, you'll need to be on a sense rom, there's no way to use it on AOSP.
That said, what are you looking for in a rom? Skyraider is a very solid rom, and will be very similar in functionality and stability to the stock rom. I don't know why it would take so much longer to boot, are you using the stock skyaider kernel or another one?
Let me know what features you have to have in a rom and we'll figure it out. Unless you read through all the rom threads (like I do for some reason), it can be hard to tell what the feature and especially functionality differences are.
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I used the stock kernel for sky raider. I believe Sky Raiders is a sense rom isn't it?
And basically I want something that is stable with no foreclosures. With the stock rom I have never had a foreclose. Something that i can customize the look of easily I loved sky raider for that but then i want to a AOSP rom to have the liberty of messing around with my phone better. I really don't mind the hd recording I just want to keep my 8mp camera.
Also can't I install a launcher from the market to give me stock looks?
If u tell me sky raider is also then i will keep that one
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You're right, you can install a launcher from the market and should be able to find a sense-like theme for it if you want. I'd recommend making a backup of your current rom, then flash the latest cyanogenmod nightly. The nightlies have some newer features that the "stable" releases don't have, and they're just as stable, if not moreso. With CM7, you have a TON of options for themes and modifications, and its always been perfectly stable for me. Look around in the android themes section and search "CM7 theme" on the market to get an idea of all the ways it can be customized.
With CM7, you won't have 720p video recording, but the still camera can be used at full resolution. There are an unbelievable amount of features and tweaks that CM7 adds, I'd recommend looking through the wiki on their website and browsing the threads in the development section. If you don't like it, you can always restore your backup. It might be fun to check out some of the new gingerbread sense roms too, if you like the sense interface. Those roms aren't as stable or fast as CM7, or froyo sense roms (like skyraider), but can be fun to mess around with.