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I was using GPS navigation on google nav and playing music through the HTC media player and GPS signal wouldnt stick if i was moving, only if i was standing still. Something is preventing this multitasking. I need someone to test if it is just me or my ROM or these specific apps. I am running fresh .2 ROM btw.
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GPS breaks when playing music through the external speaker. The signal will be lost, or really spotty until you stop playing music. HTC has not commented on the issue. Does anyone know why this is happening? Is it possible to fix?
yep i am using stock unrooted evo and i get same problem i was playinf music thru stock player and go to google nav and it wont find gps signal after pausing music it finds signal them i turn the music bak on and it looses signal
Haven't tried the stock music player, but I listen t
o podcast all the time while using the gps.
i think its a bug in the htc stock player i tried same thing with doubletwist player and get no issues
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i got lost signal on gps also with doubletwist now seems like a bug with google nav
Could you post your ROMs if rooted and also has anyone tried Sprint Nav? I will go and grab a sprint nav apk and test when I get a chance. This is very inconvenient and I am curious as to why it isnt working.
Uhhh, no problems here, playing mp3 from SD card using stock music player and got a GPS lock in a matter of seconds.
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-Edit- Mine works sometimes but mostly doesn't, so yeah bug is present
anyone hear anything from htc about this, posted on their site and twitter and didnt hear anything, maybe i should call about this issue.
I don't use the stock music player app for anything but I experience this exact issue when trying to use pandora and the GPS. As soon as i shut pandora off it picks up signal again.
NEW FIND, any app, GPS and MUSIC through the speaker causes GPS signal to be lost. It works while using headphones but not the speaker.
Wow, is this a hardware or software issue?
You know, I actually forgot about this for a while, there has been no official word on this bug, and I havent heard anyone knowing why this happens.
I never even thought to try running my gps without music, I just thought it had a very crappy gps antenna or something. I have yet to try it without music to verify this as well, but tomorrow I probably will test it out.
Just a wild stab at the dark, but maybe the magnet in the external speaker interferes with the GPS antennae? Not too sure about that though....
Hmmm, would be interesting if the placement of the speaker and the GPS is the actual problem, I really hope not though. The problem doesn't occur when the GPS app uses the speaker or you get a notification playing on the speaker though, maybe the duration is short enough to not loose the signal? I emailed HTC about this issue, didn't have time to call them about it.
I can verify this, did a two hour trip last night and didn't lose the signal once with the music not playing.
Yes, it's because of the speakers
This is a funny problem. Something about the speakers is interfering with the GPS reception. It's not just that the speakers are on, but how loud it is. The louder the sound, the worse the reception.
I'm running the stock ROM. I used GPS Status and the stock music player. I played a song that is fairly constant in loudness, and noticed that as I turned up the volume, I would start loosing GPS satellites, and then as I turned the down the volume, I would get more GPS satellites.
Update: I tried the same test out on my Hero, and it definitely doesn't have the problem.
Ha, HTC already knows about it. And it doesn't look like they're gonna do anything about it, and this guys reply probably explains why my car charger takes forever to charge my phone.
Dear "My Name",
I understand that the GPS Signal will be lost is you use your device GPS with Music playing. As the device pulls more resources from the battery, the phone may become warm. The device has a built in sensor that registers the amount of heat the phone is generating and will shut down some features as the device heats up. Normally the Charging port will be turned off first, then the various radios will be disabled such as GPS, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. If you are experiencing an issue while using multiple features of the device at the same time, I recommend that you stop using one or more of the programs and see if the problem persists (As you have). I do apologize for any inconvenience that you may have experienced.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number "My Ticket Number".
Sincerely,
Jeffery
HTC
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Emrys_90 said:
Ha, HTC already knows about it. And it doesn't look like they're gonna do anything about it, and this guys reply probably explains why my car charger takes forever to charge my phone.
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If that's indeed the case, one can try underclocking to prevent the heat buildup.
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If that's indeed the case, one can try underclocking to prevent the heat buildup.
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Nope, HTC is just throwing something silly. What they describe may be true, but playing music doesn't instantly generate heat, nor does that heat instantly disipate once you turn down the volume, or plug in a headset.
As I tested above, you can slowly degrade your reception by turning the volume up slowly. This is clearly a different issue, and it is a reasonable inference that there is some sort of interference between the speaker and GPS.
Also, if HTC insists, you can prove them wrong by keeping the phone plugged in and showing that it is still charging the battery even when the GPS looses signal.
I experienced a series of reboots on my phone this weekend while driving and using the phone via a bluetooth headset. Simultaneously I was attempting to use Google navigation. I typically could connect to my caller and then would reboot within 10 seconds or so. This happened three times before I was able to figure out that the GPS connection was a culprit and temporally disabled GPS while using the phone.
Lamest part and this isn't the first time this has occurred! On the original firmware shipped from HTC I had a few identical crashes that I have only now realized were because of this combination of GPS+bluetooth.
Right now I'm running a simple OTA update + root using toast's method.
I was just wondering if anyone else has come across this issue or heard about it...
I am running CyanogenMod 2.2 Nightly (7-31-2010) with SnapV3 Kernel. I was just out driving while listening to Pandora through bluetooth. I happened to try out google navigation whilst doing this and I noticed that I couldn't get a GPS lock. The navigation app just kept saying that it was looking for GPS.
After some playing around I realized that if I turn off Pandora the navigation app works perfectly, but every time I turn on Pandora I either get the looking for GPS message or my position will not update.
Thanks for any input!
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I was just wondering if anyone else has come across this issue or heard about it...
I am running CyanogenMod 2.2 Nightly (7-31-2010) with SnapV3 Kernel. I was just out driving while listening to Pandora through bluetooth. I happened to try out google navigation whilst doing this and I noticed that I couldn't get a GPS lock. The navigation app just kept saying that it was looking for GPS.
After some playing around I realized that if I turn off Pandora the navigation app works perfectly, but every time I turn on Pandora I either get the looking for GPS message or my position will not update.
Thanks for any input!
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It's been known for a while that you can't listen to music (over speakerphone speaker using any app) and use GPS perhaps bluetooth suffers the same flaw?
If you download GPSTest then start it and open pandora, last.fm, local music player, etc and then hop into GPSTest really fast you'll see the phones unable to find GPS satellites.
Ok, I'll give that a try. Thanks for the info!
I've been working in other cities where I need the gps to get there and want to listen to pandora, so after I ran into this problem, I started keeping a nandroid of a 2.1 rom....
Intensentropy said:
I was just wondering if anyone else has come across this issue or heard about it...
I am running CyanogenMod 2.2 Nightly (7-31-2010) with SnapV3 Kernel. I was just out driving while listening to Pandora through bluetooth. I happened to try out google navigation whilst doing this and I noticed that I couldn't get a GPS lock. The navigation app just kept saying that it was looking for GPS.
After some playing around I realized that if I turn off Pandora the navigation app works perfectly, but every time I turn on Pandora I either get the looking for GPS message or my position will not update.
Thanks for any input!
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Just came back from jog and yours was the 1st post I came across, strange because this is EXACTLY what happened. Listening to pandora in the back ground Endomond gps tracker kept pausing, this is the 1st time that program has ever had an issue so there is conflict somewhere.
Well, I have played around with it a bit more and found that playing pandora through bluetooth does not cause a problem. I only run into the issue when using the phones speaker. I'm not sure about headphones though, I havn't tried that yet as I dont really have the need for them.
Of course there is still a problem with the navigation app turning off pandora every time it gives you audible directions. To stop this I just mute the navigation app and everything works well together.
I just run into a similar problem this morning
I'm running the leaked 2.2 build from last weekend.... before froyo, I could listen to pandora and use google nav all while plugged into my car stereo via aux jack.
now, when navigation gives a direction, it pauses pandora and you manually have to go back to it and press play
sooo annoying... anyone else run into this?
Order of Operations Counts, I think
I ran into this issue both with 2.1 and now 2.2 on my Evo. I'm not sure who the culprit is, but I've found that starting navigation, letting it acquire the GPS signal, and then launching Pandora works fine. If I do it the other way around my GPS signal basically dies.
Another interesting quirk I've noted is that if I start GPS first, but then Pandora.. my Nav voice will play through the speakerphone while Pandora plays through the headphone jack. If I start Pandora first, then Nav, they both play through the speakers.
I think what it may be is if Pandora starts/is caching while the phone is trying to startup GPS and acquire a position. I'll test it more during my drive home tonight. This has to be a software bug on side or the other. (Maybe it's google's ad software in Pandora trying to grab GPS for location specific advertising lol)
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I just run into a similar problem this morning
I'm running the leaked 2.2 build from last weekend.... before froyo, I could listen to pandora and use google nav all while plugged into my car stereo via aux jack.
now, when navigation gives a direction, it pauses pandora and you manually have to go back to it and press play
sooo annoying... anyone else run into this?
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I was directed here http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9569 yesterday when I brought up the same issue on a different thread. It's an issue with android itslef. Looks like it kicked in at the 1.47 ota, prior to that, the audio would go right back to playing pandora or whatever after nav told you to take a left.
Don't flame me!....I searched, can't find this specific issue for the EVO.
flashed latest cyanogen last night
I got my phone and music bluetooth connection paired, phone works fine, and it actually streams music! the problem is it does not work properly when both phone and music are connected. I disconnect the phone bt, and the music sounds great for a few seconds, then the phone bt reconnects and the music streaming is all broken up,
anyone experience this? any solutions?
So, I guess I can unpair the phone when I want to listen to music? that is kind of lame though...
This has happened to me with cm7 recently. Phone randomly keeps connecting while audio is streaming. I haven't looked into it yet but nice to know someone else is seeing this.
Actually for me there is just an interruption while the phone connects. After that the music is fine. But the phone profile shouldn't be randomly reconnecting multiple times to begin with. I have the motorola t605.
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Same here, haven't tried disconnecting the phone audio yet. Regardless its definitely an issue
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This has happened to me with cm7 recently. Phone randomly keeps connecting while audio is streaming. I haven't looked into it yet but nice to know someone else is seeing this.
Actually for me there is just an interruption while the phone connects. After that the music is fine. But the phone profile shouldn't be randomly reconnecting multiple times to begin with. I have the motorola t605.
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any settings you adjusted/tweaked?
I was considering a tablet, lol... sprints plans suck for the tablet though.
Music playback is stopped at random times. Usually the phone is in my pocket. I thought my headphones were getting unplugged. But it seems to be something else. Has anybody experience this issue?
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I've had it happen when streaming music over the air (Pandora or Slacker); I have pretty poor reception in my yard. I have not had any stops/skipping with music I have downloaded to my phone.
I think it does have something to do with the headphone jack. It seems to be a little out of spec. I have like 2 headphone plugs that will stay in securely, while the rest, if twisted, will pop slightly loose, enough to kill playback.
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Music playback is stopped at random times. Usually the phone is in my pocket. I thought my headphones were getting unplugged. But it seems to be something else. Has anybody experience this issue?
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It's a design flaw. Check this thread for more info.
You may need to try a new pair of headphones.
good find gunther lol
i got tired of the app altogether some time ago so i use ZPlayer.
check it out..its pretty dope!
I had the phone sitting on my desk and the music stopped again. There was no way I moved the headphones chord to make it fail. All I noticed was that the the synch notification was displayed on the status bar. Could the playback be stopped by incoming data? Is it even possiblle?
Thanks
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Certain notifications will momentarily disrupt media playback, but will not stop it.
The issue with the jack will require pushing the plug back in so that it is reseated properly.
All I have to do is press play again. So its definitely an interruption caused by the phone and not a jack related problem. I guess ill just have to deal with it.
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If the contact of the headphone jack is disrupted, but not dislodged, it could be enough to cause it to pause.
The headphone jack must really suck in mine because it randomly pauses playback over bluetooth regardless of which application I'm using to play music with. Even sometimes just playing music over the phone's speaker it happens for me. At first I thought it was a bug in CyanogenMod... but I guess not.
I stream my music from my phone to my car's JVC stereo unit via bluetooth. And I've noticed something and want to check with the community.
On TW gingerbread builds the audio stream is very poor. Lots of static and overall poor quality.
Then came the first few ics leaks. All of a sudden music over bluetooth is magical. To the point where I can't tell its being streamed via bluetooth and not aux.
Then came CM9 and AOSP, which also worked magically so I've been using them. But they have semi-poor battery life and issues with SD cards.
So I go back to a TW base ics leak because I like that everything just works and wanna be simple for a while, some of the new FE ones to be specific. And now all of sudden the bluetooth streaming sucks like it did on gingerbread.
Why? What changed? I'm pretty sure that around the FD teens leaks the bluetooth streaming was still fine. Not sure when it started to suck cause I mostly have been on AOSP. Does the modem affect the bluetooth radio? kernel?
I have exhausted all my knowledge and testing and scenarios that I can think of and cannot figure it out. Anyone know why this might be happening?
Anyone have similar experiences?
My Bluetooth music streaming has always been solid. Idk what happened in your case but i believe BT Stack libs were updated or something like that lol
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I stream via BT to my factory VW deck. I've had great experience on GB and the latest ICS leaks.
The early ICS leaks I noticed some popping, but I haven't heard that in awhile.
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Really? What modem do you guys prefer?
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My Bluetooth music streaming has always been solid. Idk what happened in your case but i believe BT Stack libs were updated or something like that lol
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You are correct.
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You are correct.
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Could you direct me on where they might be located? Would you think it feasible to switch them with ones from cm9 and that might fix my issue?
You think modem is the culprit?
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I think a bad bluetooth experience has to do with your receiver. I drive a ford with all the myFord hoopla and it used to work more of less but there were bouts when it was terrible and unusable and i had to pull the fuse to reset it. However there was a huge update to the software and I have not had a single problem with it since then. Streaming music, answering calls, phonebook download, receiving and sending texts all work great for every rom i have tried.
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I think a bad bluetooth experience has to do with your receiver. I drive a ford with all the myFord hoopla and it used to work more of less but there were bouts when it was terrible and unusable and i had to pull the fuse to reset it. However there was a huge update to the software and I have not had a single problem with it since then. Streaming music, answering calls, phonebook download, receiving and sending texts all work great for every rom i have tried.
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This is what I thought at first. But it doesn't explain why AOSP roms always work perfectly. Doesn't matter which one. No problems, perfect audio Yet GB and now the new ICS leaks work so terribly. It doesn't make sense. And it doesn't explain why TW ICS used to work great and now they don't. I can't figure out what is changing that is causing the difference.
I hated the GGB BT streaming. Too much popping and crackling.
ICS has been very good to me streaming, quality is superb. I haven't noticed a reduction in quality with FE10 from FE07 and earlier ICS builds. What I did notice is that with FE10, the pause/play button on my remote now works again for Google Music, which is nice.
No issues streaming siriusxmonline through Ford sync
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Head sets?
I'm a fan of noise attenuating ear buds, ala JVC ha-fr50 whilst I'm driving for podcasts and phone calls.
Are there any decent BT ear buds like that? Something that blocks out a fair bit of the external road noise. As for the mic, I've had some folks say I sound fine but a little distant with the mic on those ear buds, but normal and clear when I practically eat the thing. I've never used BT ear buds or the streaming but from what you guys say, it seems sound quality isn't much of an issue.
No issues streaming BT on GB strongsteves ROM to my Sony receiver.
EL29 modem I think
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Thanks for the responses guys. Apparently somethings changing on my phone with each flash or my Bluetooth radio is faulty in a slight way. Not in a big enough way to warrant a replacement uunfortunately. I'll see what I can figure out.
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What are you streaming through? My vw is a pita, but after some slapping it around I can usually get it to work.
Early leaks of ICS had popping, but that is gone in the later leaks.
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Streaming just music from my sd card. The deck also supports bluetooth calling and connects to that at the same time. I never use it though, unless someone calls me. Connecting to the unit works just fine for all roms and versions, just the streaming quality is drastically different.
I was actually gonna see if i could get the unit to connect just the media and not the phone and see if that helps. I really don't know what else could be causing it. I can't pinpoint anything thats common or reoccurring each time the quality is bad.
All I know is AOSP works. Everytime. But why?
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Streaming just music from my sd card. The deck also supports bluetooth calling and connects to that at the same time. I never use it though, unless someone calls me. Connecting to the unit works just fine for all roms and versions, just the streaming quality is drastically different.
I was actually gonna see if i could get the unit to connect just the media and not the phone and see if that helps. I really don't know what else could be causing it. I can't pinpoint anything thats common or reoccurring each time the quality is bad.
All I know is AOSP works. Everytime. But why?
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Look around. I believe someone else was having a similar issue but backwards.
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After some digging I found these threads here and here. Both by the same guy.
It appears he was onto a solution or at the very least a cause. Unfortunately, it appears that once ICS came out, the problem was solved by Samsung and it was quickly forgotten with no solution.
Except now, for me at least, the ICS TW roms don't stream properly anymore.
Also, just had a thought. When going between roms, I have skipped over flashing Caulks format all and just wiped data. Never had any problems, but I remember reading back in the hero days that not formatting every partition leaves some old files on the phone, and possibly bluetooth files are stored there? Should I try flashing a tw ICS rom after an AOSP rom without running format all?
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After some digging I found these threads here and here. Both by the same guy.
It appears he was onto a solution or at the very least a cause. Unfortunately, it appears that once ICS came out, the problem was solved by Samsung and it was quickly forgotten with no solution.
Except now, for me at least, the ICS TW roms don't stream properly anymore.
Also, just had a thought. When going between roms, I have skipped over flashing Caulks format all and just wiped data. Never had any problems, but I remember reading back in the hero days that not formatting every partition leaves some old files on the phone, and possibly bluetooth files are stored there? Should I try flashing a tw ICS rom after an AOSP rom without running format all?
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I don't think that would be the case, but def worth a try. Lets us know since I would LOVE to be using my BT audio, but it reduced the quality too much for me, no popping etc, but, too poor quality for a good stereo/speakers and my prude-ears
Well I did try everything I could but came up empty handed. Theo only way I can get good Bluetooth quality is by running an AOSP ROM.
That itself isn't a bad thing because I love AOSP, but its a weird occurrence.
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