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Hi All, Im a Flash Developer and want to get a phone for FLash mobile dev. I cant get the Nexus One where I live (South Africa) but we can get the Desire.
So my question is this, will the HTC Desire get the Froyo upgrade as soon as the Nexus One does?
Does anyone know how the Flash Player for mobile be rolled out? I can t find anything on it anywhere.
also interested in an answer to this... I know the Desire rom has been ported to the N1 but has the reverse been done and if not is it possible.
Very close to buying a Desire for it optical controller and slightly upgrade RAM but would like the option of moving to a fully functional Android 2.2 if HTC take ages releasing their own update (which is inevitable!)
Micahel
bradleycwells said:
So my question is this, will the HTC Desire get the Froyo upgrade as soon as the Nexus One does?
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Going by HTCs previous form, almost certainly not, though given how new the Desire is I would hope that HTC already have plans for an upgrade in the pipeline.
As I see it, the biggest issue with getting any form of Froyo onto the Desire is that we will need a 2.6.32 kernel.
Currently, HTC have not released the kernel source for the Desire, which makes it pretty much impossible for anyone to port the Desire specific parts of 2.6.29 to 2.6.32.
Given that the Nexus One and the Desire are very similar, it is likely that their aren't too many differences in the kernel source, but the current lack of the code for the Desire means we just don't know.
Regards,
Dave
Flash Player
Im happy to run 2.1 on the Desire, but I'm really getting it for Flash.
So does anyone know how Flash will be installed on the OS? Will it come with the update or will it come as an application that one can install?
Maybe HTC aint released the kernal for this very reason, that they dont want people to port over 2.2 from N1 ROM update.
According to a user in a german forum, HTC will release an update to 2.2 one month later: http://translate.google.de/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.android-hilfe.de%2F307474-post57.html&sl=de&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8
I hope it's true
As far as I know Adobe will release Flash for Android in multiple ways and one of them is through the Android Market for all compatible devices.
So even if the Desire wouldn't get 2.2 for some time, Flash 10.1 should be available for the Desire from start (as HTC has marketed the Desire being Flash 10.1 ready).
Anybody got any real evidence of how this will happen?
Will be really cool if all devices get it as an install through the market but this is all still pure speculation?
Why is all this so tight lipped, we all know Flash Player is coming, why does it matter how it is coming?
Gotta love all the conjecture on these forums.
Not sure if this helps, but my desire HAS flash support. It works quite well though streaming video doesn't seem to work. Download video works most of the time (i.e. youtube etc.).
That's Flash Lite. This will be full Flash.
The Professor said:
That's Flash Lite. This will be full Flash.
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yep, which the world is dying for
bradleycwells said:
Hi All, Im a Flash Developer and want to get a phone for FLash mobile dev. I cant get the Nexus One where I live (South Africa) but we can get the Desire.
So my question is this, will the HTC Desire get the Froyo upgrade as soon as the Nexus One does?
Does anyone know how the Flash Player for mobile be rolled out? I can t find anything on it anywhere.
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It will be awesome to get froy one month after its release, but since i'm also from the good old South Africa i must inform you that even if HTC releases the update we (South Africans) have to wait for leaf and our "wonderful" network operators to test it as well...thats now unless you root you phone and get a ROM from XDA
Wouldnt it be a liiiiiiitle too strange if we Desire users wont get it... I mean if u compare Nexus One with Desire ther isnt realy much difference ore am i very wrong :S
now the kernal has been released, it may be possible for them to port over the current 2.1 N1 ROM to Desire. If that works then they can do it for 2.2.
Zhor said:
Wouldnt it be a liiiiiiitle too strange if we Desire users wont get it... I mean if u compare Nexus One with Desire ther isnt realy much difference ore am i very wrong :S
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No your right except for the fact that the nexus uses googles UI (user interface) and rhe desire uses htc's Sense UI, so the qeustion is not if it will work but when will htc port it to their UI...or thats how I understand the situation.
Just got a reply on a email I sent to HTC regarding the update to 2.2 (Froy) for the desire
This is the reply I got:
"Good Day Thank you for contacting HTC Support. We have received your email regarding the availability of the Android 2.0 software . We are still awaiting for feedback from Google SA on the (TA ) of the Android 2.0 version . Should you have any other queries please feel free to contact us again . Kind Regards HTC Support"
Not sure if this only counts for SA but doesn't really sound like the guy knows what hes talking about because i specifically asked about Android 2.2 aka Froy. We already have Android 2.0...
wihandw said:
Just got a reply on a email I sent to HTC regarding the update to 2.2 (Froy) for the desire
This is the reply I got:
"Good Day Thank you for contacting HTC Support. We have received your email regarding the availability of the Android 2.0 software . We are still awaiting for feedback from Google SA on the (TA ) of the Android 2.0 version . Should you have any other queries please feel free to contact us again . Kind Regards HTC Support"
Not sure if this only counts for SA but doesn't really sound like the guy knows what hes talking about because i specifically asked about Android 2.2 aka Froy. We already have Android 2.0...
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Its little bit weird to ask about updates on system that was not even announced.
does anyone think that this will work on a rooted desire running official 2.2 rom????
I want badly! we need this.
It's only just been announced and we won't know until it has been released on the new Desire Z, Desire HD phones. I hope they update the Desire to this new sense though.
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I hope they update the Desire to this new sense though.
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Me too! This new sense has some nice new features.
Looking through HD specifications I saw that it will support .avi and .xvid video playback. Could be useful if they bring this to Desire. DLNA too.
And this HTCSense.com thing sounds nice.
Even if they can't update the sense on the Desire I am sure it wouldn't take much for HTC to make an app to read phone data, many free apps already do this so should be simple in theory.
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have you guys not learnt anything from htc yet lol i can guarante you this feature will not be officially ported to the desire. the main reason is because if htc gave there older phones all the new features, what incentive do we have to spend $500/600 on a new device
AndroHero said:
have you guys not learnt anything from htc yet lol i can guarante you this feature will not be officially ported to the desire. the main reason is because if htc gave there older phones all the new features, what incentive do we have to spend $500/600 on a new device
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this is very true. i waited for ages on the 2.1 update for the hero until i got fed up and got a desire
You have a point, AndroHero, but on the other hand, how many Desire owners would actually switch to a Desire HD or Desire Z? I know there are some enthusiasts, but most of us will at the least wait until next year. I could understand not giving this to a model that's maybe 1-2 years old, but Desire is from this spring, so it wouldn't prevent many people from buying a new phone, and people would know that buying a HTC was a safe bet.
I'm not saying it will come to Desire, but I think it should.
I just got my desire and see no reason to upgrade to these phones at all.
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I bought Desire in April and I will probably skip Desire HD. Its nice phone, but I don't think its worth to upgrade, because I think soon we will have better phones available: with dual core processors, Android Gingerbread etc. So I will rather wait for those phones.
Hi I'm thinking of getting a dhd on Tesco mobile does anyone know if it will Get
2.3
I'm pretty certain it will, are they even branded from tesco mobile?
HTC have said that they will be updating the Desire HD to 2.3, so I think you would get the update ...eventually.
If you simply can't wait for gingerbread then you could always take the risk of installing a custom 2.3 based rom, theres plenty in the DHD 'Android Development' section
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HTC have said that they will be updating the Desire HD to 2.3, so I think you would get the update ...eventually.
If you simply can't wait for gingerbread then you could always take the risk of installing a custom 2.3 based rom, theres plenty in the DHD 'Android Development' section
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What are you talking about. HTC have already updated the DHD to GingerBread, so have many UK carriers. I'm fairly certain though that Tesco phones are all unbranded anyway, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
I do hope they are unbranded..... Having a nice phone with Tesco logo on it would just make me laugh where ever u are there is a Tesco lol
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Doktaphex said:
What are you talking about. HTC have already updated the DHD to GingerBread, so have many UK carriers. I'm fairly certain though that Tesco phones are all unbranded anyway, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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I have a friend with a DHD who's still waiting for his update, thats all haha
I might be wrong and hes just unlucky
Its branded just like o2. I seen for14 quid a debrandkit that consists of a SD cardandu flash the Tom to stock ill get 2.3 then. I'm sticking with Tesco cause they cheap as chips lol
The Desire HD on Tesco is probably the best network. I bought mine in Vodafone and it was packed full of bloatware (Vodafone this, that, soundhog or something). Where as my dad purchased the phone on Tesco and its pretty much a clean stock rom. His came on 2.2 and we just updated to 2.3.2.
Tesco Rocks, Vodafone Sucks.
Questions.
Is there a difference in hardware in these device, HTC desire vs HTC desire softbank.
The phone is bought and used in the Netherlands (he said from KPN(telecom provider), info came from the person), but softbank is used in Japan, so i have my ??????
I ask this because he asked me to do a Rom upgrade to Gingerbread with htc sence 3.0 on it.
I thought it was a plain HTC desire but then i saw 'softbank' on it, so i think it is 'softbank branded'.
If the specs are the same it should not matter because the device will be rooted and the SPL will be upgraded to.
Before i will do the upgrade, could anyone tell me is it the same device, does it have the same specs, from what i read, it looks the same, but i want to know for sure, i don't wanna brick it.
Thanks in advance.
Hope i have put it in the right post now.
So, HTC have announced and shown us yet again how much they hate the Marvel by leaving us with Gingerbread but giving most other 2011 models a promise.
So what do people think? The source is out so when & more importantly will ICS be ported on this device? I hope so. Also are the specs up to scratch?
Don't expect a ICS realise this year. Maybe we won't get it at all.
Face it: we can only unlock with xtc clip, that says enough!!
All we need is s-off.
The ICS part may be done by our good developers.
ICS will be done by Cyanogenmod in 2-3 months.
But I read that that ICS will be available for ALL 2.3x devices in the HTC wildfire forum on the cyanogenmod forum!
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In my opinion ICS can not be ported to Wildfire s.. It doesn't have the proper graphics performance to work on this low budget poor phone..Maybe i am mistaken though....!
I read somewhere that ALL 2011 phones MIGHT get CLEAN 4.0
mars83 said:
I read somewhere that ALL 2011 phones MIGHT get CLEAN 4.0
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They probably mean the High-End phones!
arkatis said:
They probably mean the High-End phones!
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No, no. Clean android was mentioned for Desire, Desire Z and so on. They are only single core
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In my opinion ICS can not be ported to Wildfire s.. It doesn't have the proper graphics performance to work on this low budget poor phone..Maybe i am mistaken though....!
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Don't you think it would be nice if you could have one of those new Intel Quadraflop thingies in your WFS?
Sent from VercettiM's HTC Wildfire S.
VercettiM said:
Don't you think it would be nice if you could have one of those new Intel Quadraflop thingies in your WFS?
Sent from VercettiM's HTC Wildfire S.
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Sorry i don't get you..
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No, no. Clean android was mentioned for Desire, Desire Z and so on. They are only single core
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Htc Desire is a 2010 Phone though..lol
And Desire z is a 800mhz phone launched in 2010 also..
I don't think HTC will release ICS for them..
Hey Arkatis, do you know anyone that might have the xtc clip in Cyprus?
HTC announced only the first wave of ICS upgrades.
Until now they didn't say anything that makes me think WFS won't get ICS.
Obviously they will first update the high-end devices and leave the "budget" smartphones waiting.
From the replies I got from Tech Support I still have hope that we will get an official release.
Let HTC learn about integrating ICS with Sense on the Sensation and EVO 3D.
Maybe we should be a little bit patient...
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Hey Arkatis, do you know anyone that might have the xtc clip in Cyprus?
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No unfortunately not! You have to buy it on eBay or from here : http://www.xtcclip.com/
miguelca said:
HTC announced only the first wave of ICS upgrades.
Until now they didn't say anything that makes me think WFS won't get ICS.
Obviously they will first update the high-end devices and leave the "budget" smartphones waiting.
From the replies I got from Tech Support I still have hope that we will get an official release.
Let HTC learn about integrating ICS with Sense on the Sensation and EVO 3D.
Maybe we should be a little bit patient...
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If the boot loader of the wildfire s is not yet unlocked from them then no ICS on wildfire s either.. They only care about the high-end phones!
I don't think that HTC will come up and say "wildfire s will get Ice cream Sandwich!" Not a chance..lol
arkatis said:
Htc Desire is a 2010 Phone though..lol
And Desire z is a 800mhz phone launched in 2010 also..
I don't think HTC will release ICS for them..
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Oh crap... I was thinking 2010, wrote down 2011 (hate that sometimes). Anyway I think even without support from them our devs can make 4.0.1 for us with no bother Optimised and stuff...
miguelca said:
HTC announced only the first wave of ICS upgrades.
Until now they didn't say anything that makes me think WFS won't get ICS.
Obviously they will first update the high-end devices and leave the "budget" smartphones waiting.
From the replies I got from Tech Support I still have hope that we will get an official release.
Let HTC learn about integrating ICS with Sense on the Sensation and EVO 3D.
Maybe we should be a little bit patient...
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yes this information is correct, for Low end's phone only have ICS wait wait wait..............
ICS will be pointless from HTC on the WFS. Sense will ruin most of what's good in ICS.
Chances of HTC releasing it are pretty slim as well I think. Look at what happened with the HTC Desire and Gingerbread. A phone perfectly capable of running 2.3, but they came out with all kinds of crap excuses as to why it wouldn't be possible.. On an ex-flagship phone.
Seeing as they'll probably have another 5 models out before even the first wave of ICS is released, I can't see it happening. I doubt even my Desire S will get it from HTC.
We just need a software S-OFF fix and then hope CyanogenMod 9 gets the support.
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If the boot loader of the wildfire s is not yet unlocked from them then no ICS on wildfire s either.. They only care about the high-end phones!
I don't think that HTC will come up and say "wildfire s will get Ice cream Sandwich!" Not a chance..lol
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I personally don't think that one thing (unlocked bootloader) has anything to do with the other (O.S. updates). This is my humble opinion.
I know they obviously care more about high-end phones but I used to have a Wildfire (the original, not S), it came with Eclair (2.1) and later got an upgrade to Froyo (2.2). This was a nice surprise.
Of course that now the odds don't seem very good for the WFS but I still have a little faith on this.
In the meanwhile I can't find anybody with a XTC Clip here in my region, so I will have to wait for a "miracle". Either S-OFF is achieved by software only and I might think of flashing a custom ROM, or HTC keeps their word on the updates arriving on phones released on a certain time frame and I will have to be VERY patient.
Of course that I would like a lot to have a phone with ICS "onboard"... but for now I will have to survive with Gingerbread and at least hope HTC updates the 2.3.3 to 2.3.5.
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Durdy said:
ICS will be pointless from HTC on the WFS. Sense will ruin most of what's good in ICS.
Chances of HTC releasing it are pretty slim as well I think. Look at what happened with the HTC Desire and Gingerbread. A phone perfectly capable of running 2.3, but they came out with all kinds of crap excuses as to why it wouldn't be possible.. On an ex-flagship phone.
Seeing as they'll probably have another 5 models out before even the first wave of ICS is released, I can't see it happening. I doubt even my Desire S will get it from HTC.
We just need a software S-OFF fix and then hope CyanogenMod 9 gets the support.
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Durdy, you said it well: an "ex-flagship" phone. It's life-cycle is long gone now.
The HTC Desire (I had one but unfortunately it fell inside a portable latrine while attending an U2 show) was released more than 20 months ago.
How many version upgrades did the Desire get?
How many did the WFS get? Until now none. That's why I still have a little faith.
About your Desire S, I would say that you will definitely get ICS from HTC.
There can be no doubt about it. If HTC doesn't update the Desire S, I will never buy HTC again! Keep in mind that I don't own one myself but I thought about buying one for 2-3 months. The decision was based on my salary having other priorities nowadays, so I got a Wildfire S just to keep faithful to the brand and Android+Sense. I also liked the size/weight/features of the WFS.
I suppose the main question is that the upgrade "waves" may take too long for some of us to wait...
Of course that I am very grateful to everyone that is trying to port ICS to the WFS, to all nice devs that are trying to S-OFF without a XTC Clip, etc.
All HTC phones I had until today (except the WFS) were rooted and flashed with ROMS that I got here on XDA.
Kudos.
miguelca said:
I personally don't think that one thing (unlocked bootloader) has anything to do with the other (O.S. updates). This is my humble opinion.
I know they obviously care more about high-end phones but I used to have a Wildfire (the original, not S), it came with Eclair (2.1) and later got an upgrade to Froyo (2.2). This was a nice surprise.
Of course that now the odds don't seem very good for the WFS but I still have a little faith on this.
In the meanwhile I can't find anybody with a XTC Clip here in my region, so I will have to wait for a "miracle". Either S-OFF is achieved by software only and I might think of flashing a custom ROM, or HTC keeps their word on the updates arriving on phones released on a certain time frame and I will have to be VERY patient.
Of course that I would like a lot to have a phone with ICS "onboard"... but for now I will have to survive with Gingerbread and at least hope HTC updates the 2.3.3 to 2.3.5.
Virgin Mobile Usa is running 2.3.4 now.
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Virgin Mobile Usa is running 2.3.4 now.
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Thanks for the info ScottPomroy. This should be a sign that sooner or later the other RUU's will get it too. At least it solves some known bugs.
My WFS was Vodafone branded but I updated it to the latest European RUU (already 2 updates, still 2.3.3).