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Memory leak with install/uninstall apps

Hi all,
I finally got myself a unbranded/sim lock free HTC Desire and the first thing i tried to do was to install some extra apps.
So i install an application called AppManager and it was reporting that the device had 145MB free out of 147MG possible .
Up to this moment everything was okay, and then i started to install some other applications, and since some of them didn't made my happy i just uninstalled them.
This procedure was been done maybe for a half-dozen applications, and at the end i only left the AppManager installed. However now the device reports 101MG free out of 147MG possible. I have restarted the device some times, and this value maintains the same..so i wonder where all the memory went? Is there some sort of bug in the memory management or in the uninstall procedure of applications within HTC Desire / Android 2.1 OS?
If there's any extra info i can provide, feel free to ask for it.
Thanks for your time,
Bruno

Have you tried clearing the internet and mail cache, these can soak up several Mb

adesonic said:
Have you tried clearing the internet and mail cache, these can soak up several Mb
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Hi adesonic,
I have only the gmail account setup (and this email account it's an empty one) and i didn't used internet so far.
By installing and uninstalling over and over applications the memory keeps droping until i see the low storage warning message. The way to fix it is to do a factory reset, but it seems to me that something is very wrong with the device/os.
Thanks,
Bruno

that's a known issue mate, i am having it too and many others i think.
i dunno if this is the reason but what's the process of uninstallation ???? maybe the .apk file is left somewhere when we download it and still take space after uninstall

I have the EXACT same problem on my HTC Desire and it is driving me nuts. And to make things worse I have trouble finding other people with the same problem.
Has anyone else experienced this problem and perhaps found a solution? Im going crazy having to do a factory reset to clear up memory from apps I have already uninstalled (I have turned down cache for my browser and my emails cache is very small too.)

I'll wipe my desire in a few minutes. I've got only 8mb left now, and I really deleted all the stuff I didn't really need... Thinking about getting a bigger MicroSD card & doing A2SD until HTC leaks sense for 2.2. I'll report back after reinstalling all my apps

i've got 3MB left

tommo123 said:
i've got 3MB left
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Get Estrongs file explorer and prune your download and downloads folders.

I guess the issue is not having the capacity of microsd card shrinking, but the internal memory being shrinked after several installs/uninstalls. It also drives me mad on my Desire.
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I assume you were using the Market app to install apps. This has a cache that gets pretty big. I've gotten it up to 10mb before. You can go into Applications and choose the market app and clear cache. I've had this issue and the only way I've sorted it was to get the apps I wanted, tested some others, come to some conclusion what I really wanted and then do a fresh restore and only install the apps I wanted.

Something i did not realized before but after reading this thread, i know realized that after 7 days of using my Desire, i only have 43MB left
And to think i was telling myself i can take my time and test as many application as possible cos i can always uninstall those i don't like. Looks like there is an after effect

Is this problem only on rooted desire or?
if you know if this will be fixed with v2.2?

No it's affecting non rooted too.
I did a Factory Reset a while ago. I then had 41MB free, after reset and installing the same apps again i had about 94MB free. All this after trying out a lot of apps.
Now it´s the same again, So a reset will free a lot of memory.
Does anyone know of an app that will back up my e-mail accounts settings? That was the only part that had to be reconfigured after the reset. WiFi, contacts and app settings are a breeze but the e-mail settings has to be done manually.

yes but factory reset delete all settings..or? isnt this annoying?

Not at all, if you've selected Menu/Settings/Privacy (Iguess, my phone is in Swerdish)
That will back up almost everything.
Not your Own Theme settings however.

i hope that this will be fixed with v2.2. Becouse i want buy this phone, but i will think twice. Problems with memory, vibrating, multitouch, and so on..

-Hell No! (Sorry )
This is an awsome phone, I've had no problems with mine.
Yes there is a shortage of memory, but you'll find that in other phones too and it will be taken care of somewhat in 2.2. The very few shortcomings are out weighted by its stellar performance in other ways. The multitasking in the Desire is seriously good. I often use 3-4 apps simultaneously and it doesnt even lag or slow down. Cardiotrainer, Music and c:geo is working about an hour together everyday and when the phone rings or I get an message/mail I don't have to exit the running apps - try that on an iPhone
My advice - Buy it and do it now.

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No it's affecting non rooted too.
I did a Factory Reset a while ago. I then had 41MB free, after reset and installing the same apps again i had about 94MB free. All this after trying out a lot of apps.
Now it´s the same again, So a reset will free a lot of memory.
Does anyone know of an app that will back up my e-mail accounts settings? That was the only part that had to be reconfigured after the reset. WiFi, contacts and app settings are a breeze but the e-mail settings has to be done manually.
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Sorry i have to ask but when you say setting up WiFi, contacts and apps is a breeze....do you mean restoring from the back up? Now if i would to hard reset, how do i restore my data from the memory card assuming i don't want to sync my contacts & calendar. What about general phone settings?

Well, all WiFi connections I had set up before - they just worked again.
All apps will be wiped, but they will be on your Downloaded page in Market. So its just a matter of installing them again.
All apps that had files and settings on memory card - recognized this and all was back to normal.
I use Google Calendar and that syncs back when setting up your Google account again.
Contacts I sync with Outlook, but if you have them in your Google Gmail account as contacts I suppose they just sync back.
The only thing I really had to do all over was setting up my e-mail accounts. The rest just fell in place.
Only thing I lost was my history in CardioTrainer, because I forgot to "Backup to SD card".
So take a peek in your apps if there is an option to backup to SD card and when the app is installed after the reset you can restore from your card again.

rawimage said:
Well, all WiFi connections I had set up before - they just worked again.
All apps will be wiped, but they will be on your Downloaded page in Market. So its just a matter of installing them again.
All apps that had files and settings on memory card - recognized this and all was back to normal.
I use Google Calendar and that syncs back when setting up your Google account again.
Contacts I sync with Outlook, but if you have them in your Google Gmail account as contacts I suppose they just sync back.
The only thing I really had to do all over was setting up my e-mail accounts. The rest just fell in place.
Only thing I lost was my history in CardioTrainer, because I forgot to "Backup to SD card".
So take a peek in your apps if there is an option to backup to SD card and when the app is installed after the reset you can restore from your card again.
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Thanks for the info. Will come in handy looking at my memory already now left with 25MB. It's going to be too soon before i have to hard reset

FoYo OTA update - what's going to happen?

I've spent a long time with smartphones but I've never had an OTA ROM update before and thought it might be useful if those in the know could give us an idea of what to expect.
I assume that as with wired ROM updates of yore I should expect to be in a hard reset situation post update - all content, data, apps etc will need reinstalling - is this correct?
If so will I have to set the phone up from scratch again (with my gmail account details etc) reinstall all my apps one by one from the Market, resync all my data and painstakingly set up all my home screens / scenes by hand etc?
Or is it not as bad as all that / is there a smarter way to prepare for this?

Well I'm not personally sure on how Android updates work (I personally think it probably does 'hard reset'), but I know that if you have HTCs backup feature running, it saves all your important stuff - Scenes, wifi info, bookmarks, text messages, gmail info etc.
Hope that helps.

Well if that works it helps but would rather have a belt and braces ready in case it doesn't..
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Well if that works it helps but would rather have a belt and braces ready in case it doesn't..
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Fair enough lol. Well I think you can sync to the PC for your Outlook stuff, but there are also apps in the Market that do what you are looking for, but I have no idea what they're called, or which one to choose, sorry.

All, a few weeks ago an update come down that killed the Wifi on unbranded T-Mobile and Orange UK phones. The T-Mobile fix was simple enough but the Orange phones got SIM locked and needed unlocking, sometimes at a cost.
What steps should we take when this update comes? Is there a way to get my unbranded T-Mobile Desire back to it's T-Mobile ROM?

I would take the advise given by the iphone dev-team, which is to old off on the official update until the devs have looked and ensured it won't cause problems. If there is an official OTA, it will be a matter of hours before the dev get their hands on it and release a custom version, that will not cause issues with return your phone to branded/network locked. Pacience is a virtue
If you want to return to stock and don't mind being locked, there is a guide in the dev forum for returning your phone to stock.
with regards to backup I would recommend titanium backup, it's great for backing up all settings and apps.

Since my phone is rooted, what ROM should I use to get OTA update?
Or I will need to switch back to stock ROM to get it?

I dont imagine your settings to be lost, i would imagine, system update, reboot and its version 2.2 but like with most roms etc a hard reset recommended? obviously backing up your settings is advised like with all updates

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Since my phone is rooted, what ROM should I use to get OTA update?
Or I will need to switch back to stock ROM to get it?
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I would assume when you flash the OTA ROM it will return your phone to stock and remove root. You be better off holding off for a day or so to let the dev's do there thang.

So - seems we've established that the OTA update will reset everything on the device.
DPK suggests that the HTC backup feature will restore everything - can anyone confirm that this includes:
Apps
Scenes / Homescreen layouts
Accounts - core Google account / Gmail accounts / POP3 accounts
Network configuration - O2 / Voda settings etc
WiFi settings - access details for all the hotspots I have signed on to
Data - email / contacts / calendar etc
It's taken a couple of months for me to get the Desire exactly how I want it and all works well so I'm not convinced I'm even going to want to update - but if I do / it is thrust upon me it would be good to know how Android manages this process.
If anyone has any "from experience" answers ....

I have My Backup Pro installed but in the WM world it was never a good idea to use backed up apps - a full reinstall was best practice. Not sure if this applies to android.
Quite surprised that everyone seems happy to just suck it and see though - the move to Android does seem to require a degree of "abandon all control" that I wasn't expecting ....

Mark One said:
So - seems we've established that the OTA update will reset everything on the device.
DPK suggests that the HTC backup feature will restore everything - can anyone confirm that this includes:
Apps
Scenes / Homescreen layouts
Accounts - core Google account / Gmail accounts / POP3 accounts
Network configuration - O2 / Voda settings etc
WiFi settings - access details for all the hotspots I have signed on to
Data - email / contacts / calendar etc
It's taken a couple of months for me to get the Desire exactly how I want it and all works well so I'm not convinced I'm even going to want to update - but if I do / it is thrust upon me it would be good to know how Android manages this process.
If anyone has any "from experience" answers ....
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The HTC backup feature is pretty rubbish, it will only backup your user data, IE bookmarks, SMS, contact, network settings, wifi settings etc..
It doesn't backup you applications, sense homescreen layout (you don't even have access to your saved layout, which really defeats the object of that feature), mail accounts.
For application backup titanium is brilliant, though settings aren't always portable between different ROM due to the changes that entail in a new build.
This is the same for most phone OTA updates, I've had them in the past and it will cause problems with existing software.
Hope this advise is helpful.

doesn't astro backup your apps and other stuff?

Thanks koolaid, so as i suspected its back to square 1. Real bummer about scenes though.
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help...

I have recently purchased a Desire from somebody who either has unlocked it or it is already unlocked it seems unbranded.
I have a problem in that their default email is stuck on the phone and I cannot for the life of me remove it after looking through google search the way it is carried out on a hero doesn’t apply here. I cannot get access to the market place!
If I go into menu->accounts and sync->manage account->remove account
It brings up a notification explaining that I must reset the phone to factory defaults? Is this a wise move? Or the only option here?
I am worried that this will leave the phone no longer unlocked. Common sense or past knowledge tells me this won’t be the case but the whole android thing is new to me... ?
Advice would be greatly appreciated.

Just do factory reset
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Factory rested will not alter that it is unlocked
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Menu - Settings - Applications - Manage applications. Go to gmail and gmail storage and clear data. See if that helps. Sometimes this needs to be done a few times. Try turning off sync before you do it.

Question on the Google App sync

So I tried searching beforehand but I didn't find anything really, so forgive me if it has been asked already.
The initial sync that the device does when you're first setting it up (like from installing a new Rom) syncs with your provided gmail account and starts installing all the apps you had up till the last data connection before wipe.
I'm curious if I can start this sync again without a data wipe/factory reset. Thing is, some of the apps simply failed in downloading, and would continue if restarted. I rebooted the phone before all of 'em were finished and would have to manually fetch them all over.
Now I know and have titanium and all the wonderfullness, but the sync is just preffered for me, and data by titanium. So is this possible? Is it so common I completely missed it? Or do I simply have to do a data wipe once more... Thanks for any and all replies.
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Firstly, you are going to get flamed for posting this in the Development section, rather than the Q&A section.
Secondly, as far as I know, the initial sync is a one-time only operation. I do not know of any way to force the system to sync again, barring wiping everything.

If you've linked your device on the Market website, all your apps should show as installed on there under your account/profile area. From here, you should be able to install them again despite it saying it already is installed because once you click the install button, it will check your phone again to see if it is already on there. I had to do this myself and it saved me quite a bit of time.

This video HERE will help you with your problem.

Thanks for the info Nightmare. And yes, the video is all important, ill admit to not knowing everything there is to know about my device and its available services, thanks for the replies.
And mods can close/delete this, clicked through wrong favs in the app, sorry for the miss section, just realized, lol.
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Does Samsung Cloud restores app data?

Has anyone already tried this in real life?
Does it backup ALL of the app data like game progress and every single detail like Apple does with its iTunes backup?
I find this really really useful.
Thanks!

Nobody has tried it yet?

Good question, that would actually be really useful!

Well, this is a little embarrassing. But, last night I went to clear cache in recovery after making some changes in my disabled packages. I accidently did a factory reset, instead. I can confirm that it does reinstall your apps and reinstalls the theme etc. I don't play games on my phone, so I cant help you there. I had to resign in to banking apps, xda, re add my card to Samsung pay etc.
So, Ill have to say, no, it does not restore every detail as you mention. Mostly it restored my settings and "look and feel" aka theme/icons. My contacts where back, and txt messages where back (but the txt messages could have been the AT&T service). It did download my custom font, but didnt apply it.
In summary: It put my apps back on my phone I had downloaded but I to resign in to everything. I also had to import my package disabler pro script. Contacts where back in as well. I was also disappointed I had to set up all three of my emails again. I wish the cloud service acted like smart switch, but it does not.
Oh and be warned the phone is extremely laggy during restore operation. The phone also becomes pretty hot during the operation. In total it took me about 30 minutes to get back everything 100% the way I had it.
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Well, this is a little embarrassing. But, last night I went to clear cache in recovery after making some changes in my disabled packages. I accidently did a factory reset, instead. I can confirm that it does reinstall your apps and reinstalls the theme etc. I don't play games on my phone, so I cant help you there. I had to resign in to banking apps, xda, re add my card to Samsung pay etc.
So, Ill have to say, no, it does not restore every detail as you mention. Mostly it restored my settings and "look and feel" aka theme/icons. My contacts where back, and txt messages where back (but the txt messages could have been the AT&T service). It did download my custom font, but didnt apply it.
In summary: It put my apps back on my phone I had downloaded but I to resign in to everything. I also had to import my package disabler pro script. Contacts where back in as well. I was also disappointed I had to set up all three of my emails again. I wish the cloud service acted like smart switch, but it does not.
Oh and be warned the phone is extremely laggy during restore operation. The phone also becomes pretty hot during the operation. In total it took me about 30 minutes to get back everything 100% the way I had it.
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Thanks!
Well, that's quite disappointing. I read articles saying it could restore app settings, but it seems it's not like iTunes still, where it restores an exact copy of your previous setup.

I have this now on my S7 Edge and so far it always fails to backup the App section, there is always an error. The other sections complete without issue.
Are your App backups working prior to doing a restore?

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Thanks!
Well, that's quite disappointing. I read articles saying it could restore app settings, but it seems it's not like iTunes still, where it restores an exact copy of your previous setup.
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No prob! Yes, I agree in being disappointed. Hopefully they will tweak the service to be more comparable to an iTunes restore. Or, it's possible we are missing something? I do not find any in depth settings for back and restore for Samsung Cloud. As far as I can see its either "on or off".
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App backup doesn't work here too. Other sections fine but no app backup.
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App backup doesn't work here too. Other sections fine but no app backup.
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If you have any apps or data from apps on the SD card or are using the card as adoptable storage, it wont work.

the1stSecond said:
Well, this is a little embarrassing. But, last night I went to clear cache in recovery after making some changes in my disabled packages. I accidently did a factory reset, instead. I can confirm that it does reinstall your apps and reinstalls the theme etc. I don't play games on my phone, so I cant help you there. I had to resign in to banking apps, xda, re add my card to Samsung pay etc.
So, Ill have to say, no, it does not restore every detail as you mention. Mostly it restored my settings and "look and feel" aka theme/icons. My contacts where back, and txt messages where back (but the txt messages could have been the AT&T service). It did download my custom font, but didnt apply it.
In summary: It put my apps back on my phone I had downloaded but I to resign in to everything. I also had to import my package disabler pro script. Contacts where back in as well. I was also disappointed I had to set up all three of my emails again. I wish the cloud service acted like smart switch, but it does not.
Oh and be warned the phone is extremely laggy during restore operation. The phone also becomes pretty hot during the operation. In total it took me about 30 minutes to get back everything 100% the way I had it.
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Hi, it reinstall theme ? so if i root my Boom Note 7 and install avengers theme, Samsung cloud will be able to get it back on my new note 7 ? ^^

Only restores app data for some Samsung apps like weather and clock nothing else. It does restore all apps even side loaded. It does restore most of the os settings but not all
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It restores data for some apps. For example, data for Color Note are saved and restored. Data for And Ftp are not.
Same for Desktop version and the direct cable connection version of Smart Switch.

Which one is better, the OTA cloud backup or Smart Search?

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Which one is better, the OTA cloud backup or Smart Search?
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They probably use identical technologies.

On the S7 Edge Loaner that I tried, it got back the Apps, but had to re-sign into all of them. Also, No themes were applied and settings failed to carry over

It fails, dismally. Like previous reviewers have stated, Samsung's backup/restore feature does NOT backup app settings as promised. It does nothing more than reinstall apps, without any customisation, as if you've never used them before. What's more, if your new handset has updated firmware or different settings to your previous one, then you may find your "restored" apps suffering compatibility issues and causing system instability. Until Samsung's backup/restore software functions the way it's supposed to, you're better off installing the apps the old-fashioned way, or using Google's backup/restore option, which at least avoids conflicts.

You would think if anyone could get this to work it would be Samsung, using their app on their phone. Good one guys.

For those that tested this app, did your backups fully complete or did they fail near the end?
Mine always failed at the end when doing the apps, but I just got the Nougat update and the phone initiated a backup and it finally went all the way.
So I'm wondering if now it would be better.

Samsung backup is terrible.
It will definitely NOT backup game saves. I recently confirmed this. It will backup game settings, saving you a whopping 30 seconds of having to endure the tedious task of changing them to what you want, but the save games you spent hours/days on? That isnt important to Samsung.