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Question regarding rumored OTA today

With todays rumored start of the OTA for the Dinc I have a question as to how to go about things. When the leaked 2.2 came out I flashed my radio and updated to the leaked 2.2, had the typical problems everyone else did but instead of going through all of the fixes went back to stock 2.1. So I'm back to firmware 2.1-update1 baseband 1.000.03.04.06. My question is this. Unrevoked posted a tweet last night/early this morning saying to be sure to use Unrevoked Forever before any OTAs. So, at risk of goofing something up what steps do I need to take to be ready for the OTA?
Root using Unrevoked 3.1
Use Unrevoked Forever
Wait for OTA
Sound about right? But if I do those things will I be able to apply the OTA without issue? Or is the general idea to not apply 2.2 until Unrevoked has come out with a modified 2.2 OTA. I'm honestly not too worried about root as I know that Unrevoked will eventually, if not soon after the update, come out with something for rooting 2.2.
Also, if I do these things and return to Stock, S-ON will be there still, can I then take the update normally without issue, then simply wait on Unrevoked to root 2.2? So many things going on, not sure which way to go.
I looked over the forums and didn't see any similar questions being asked, so if I missed something please disregard.

You need to have s-off before you apply the 2.2 OTA update or you will loose Root perm until they figure out a way to reroot. If you have S-off even if you take a OTA that has not been rooted, you can simply flash a new recovery that allows you to install su, and use that to restore yourself to a fully rooted system.
I got this information from http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever I take no credit for it.

The steps you described will enable you to root after the OTA update. Just make sure that you have the latest radio before you update.
Keep in mind that there is currently no way to revert from s-off at the moment so if your goal is to have a 2.2 factory image, just sit tight and wait for the update.
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Hatman41 said:
You need to have s-off before you apply the 2.2 OTA update or you will loose Root perm until they figure out a way to reroot. If you have S-off even if you take a OTA that has not been rooted, you can simply flash a new recovery that allows you to install su, and use that to restore yourself to a fully rooted system.
I got this information from http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever I take no credit for it.
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OK, forgive the stupid question. It's early, I didn't sleep, so I NEED to run Unrevoked Forever, period, before the OTA, otherwise I'm at the mercy of someone discovering a root method for 2.2, which may or may not take forever, yea?

Yes that is what I have read that the 2.2 OTA will plug up the current root process just like it did for the EVO.

If you want root, you install unrevoked forever.
If you are worried about being able to revert to stock image for warranty reasons or otherwise, check Berzerker7's post in the development thread to downgrade. According to him you will have stock and VZW techs dont have a way for checking for s-off
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Hatman41 said:
Yes that is what I have read that the 2.2 OTA will plug up the current root process just like it did for the EVO.
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OK so here's what I've got so far, and thanks for the help =)
•Run Unrevoked 3.1
•Run Unrevoked Forever
•Reflash back to Stock 2.1
•Apply official OTA
•Apply custom recovery
•Install su
Sound right?

I just found this about the OTA http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7728407&postcount=3386

Assuming you are on 2.1 with clockwork and s-off: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7660617&postcount=5
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So could I follow the steps I outlined before and be ok?
•Run Unrevoked 3.1
•Run Unrevoked Forever
•Reflash back to Stock 2.1
•Apply official OTA
•Apply custom recovery
•Install su

Yes you should be fine if you do that.

Hatman41 said:
Yes you should be fine if you do that.
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OK, thanks a lot for the help guys. I feel better going into this now =)
Now all we need is the OTA.

I am a bit confused. I am urnning radio 2.15 (latest) with SkyRaider 2.5.2 and Clockwork recovery and S-OFF.
How do i go about getting stock radio and stock ROM? Also, can the stock rom be rooted or no when flashing OTA?
Thanks!

rulevoid said:
I am a bit confused. I am urnning radio 2.15 (latest) with SkyRaider 2.5.2 and Clockwork recovery and S-OFF.
How do i go about getting stock radio and stock ROM? Also, can the stock rom be rooted or no when flashing OTA?
Thanks!
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Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=757927 to revert back to the stock radio and stock ROM. As you have S-OFF once you have intalled the OTA then just flash the custom recovery that Unrevoked has supplied http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever and apply SU and then you are rooted again.

lamusician said:
If you want root, you install unrevoked forever.
If you are worried about being able to revert to stock image for warranty reasons or otherwise, check Berzerker7's post in the development thread to downgrade. According to him you will have stock and VZW techs dont have a way for checking for s-off
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Well if HBOOT still runs, they can just power it up and look for it to say S-OFF at the top.

Yup
sryan2k1 said:
Well if HBOOT still runs, they can just power it up and look for it to say S-OFF at the top.
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This is the dilemma ... I honestly do not know what I intend to do.

[Q] Various radio questions..

Currently I am running stock 2.1-update1, with a hydra kernel and s-off.
If I update my radio, am I going to have any problems with getting 2.2? Should I just wait for the OTA to come, and flash a recovery after I've installed it? If I do the radio update early, is my stock 2.1 going to keep working fine?

Seriously, nothing on this? What does updating the radio do other than allow 2.2?

JetBomber117 said:
Currently I am running stock 2.1-update1, with a hydra kernel and s-off.
If I update my radio, am I going to have any problems with getting 2.2? Should I just wait for the OTA to come, and flash a recovery after I've installed it? If I do the radio update early, is my stock 2.1 going to keep working fine?
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I don't really know what your asking, and I'm sure that's why no one else has chimed in. But here is my best attempt to figure out what I can do to help.
To get the 2.2 OTA to install, you NEED stock recovery.
What I would do if I were you, and this is what I am currently doing -
keep S-OFF, un-root the phone by getting the stock recovery -
try this
androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/99828-video-howto-unroot-incredible-downgrading.html - sorry can't post links yet. cmon MODs! lol j/k
and then you'll be able to get the 2.2 OTA and then be able to put clockworkmod recovery back on and attain root.
"If I do the radio update early, is my stock 2.1 going to keep working fine?"
are you asking, will 2.1 still work with 2.15x radio?
to put it simply - yes,
but with s-off, what I used to do, if keep a file of both the 1.x radio, and 2.15x radio on your sd card, and if you want to flash either one, just move it to the root of the sd card and either go back up to 1.x or go back down to 2.15x radio.

Thank you, that actually cleared things up perfectly. Sorry for the foggy wording.

New Ota Update

Hi guys
At the moment i've recieved an update which says the version code is: ota_btavo_htc_eu_2.10.405.2-2.09.405.8_release567cypyi0feo4th5.zip
My current version is froyo 2.2 now, should i let my phone to upgrade this update, or will it downgrade my phone?
My phone is also rooted, is there a problem about this?
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Don't use it as it will mess the phone up...

So i think my guess is right, this update is for version 2.1 right?
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No, it's the 2nd 2.2 patch...it updates 2.09.405.2 to 2.10.405.2
You just can't install it as you're rooted

EddyOS said:
No, it's the 2nd 2.2 patch...it updates 2.09.405.2 to 2.10.405.2
You just can't install it as you're rooted
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EddyOS said:
You'll need to turn off signature checking in your Recovery and then flash the update.zip as you would any other OTA but yes it should go through
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Eddy, I'm quoting your post on the other thread for clarification..
If this is an OTA, why cant he update it via Recovery? Would it still mess up the system?

It CAN mess it up, it's never a good idea to flash a stock update on a rooted phone...read other posts (not just mine ) and you'll see other people say this

EddyOS said:
It CAN mess it up, it's never a good idea to flash a stock update on a rooted phone...read other posts (not just mine ) and you'll see other people say this
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Understood..

I'm little bit confused right now, sorry for being a rookie but can you explain this a little : "You'll need to turn off signature checking in your Recovery and then flash the update.zip as you would any other OTA but yes it should go through"
What should i do now, unroot? if so how, or what's this update's benefit, if its not so necessary i can pass it..
thanks by the way

Easiest way - find a custom ROM based on that ROM version. Most Sense-based ROMs should be on it by now
Other option is to unroot using the 2.10.405.2 RUU, or the 2.29.405.2 RUU. Then root again should you want to but if you're just going to put a custom ROM back on then there's no point

[Q] HELP: Need to Unroot to Stock I have HBoot 0.93 Any help greatly appreciated!

I have EVT2-3 SHIP - S-OFF
HBOOT 0.93.0000
Radio 2.15.00.11.19
PRI 1.90_003
I gotta go back to stock and take it in for warranty I've been having terrible problems with my Evo restarting constantly, screen not coming on, freezing up. I've flashed many roms and gone back to roms i used before that have been stable and same problems persist.
I heard u have to go back to HBoot 0.76 but im unsure which one to download and how to get back rooted with the stock rom for warranty purpose.
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Thanks everyone for the help.

Go HERE and download one of the roms with radio 3.29, preferrably the .exe that can be run via a Windows PC. That *should* take care of you.
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dougjamal said:
Go HERE and download one of the roms with radio 3.29, preferrably the .exe that can be run via a Windows PC. That *should* take care of you.
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I tried using the RUU but it keeps failing saying it can't connect to the phone??
any ideas?

Need some help on this one gotta get rid of this thing...
Please! ty

stealth-twinturbo said:
Need some help on this one gotta get rid of this thing...
Please! ty
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Try this RUU
Its the latest official from Sprint so it cant be rooted.
You can also just flash any stock rom and kernel, unless they try to go into recovery they wont have any way of knowing your rooted.

akilestar said:
Try this RUU
Its the latest official from Sprint so it cant be rooted.
You can also just flash any stock rom and kernel, unless they try to go into recovery they wont have any way of knowing your rooted.
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I tried downloading that one and putting it on the root of the SD card and flashing the rom but it didn't work..? any ideas here??

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141

Ok thanks finally got it, Did the unrevoked got S-ON flashed it and got back to stock. Does it matter that it still shows HBOOT 0.93.0000? Do I need it to show 0.76?

stealth-twinturbo said:
Ok thanks finally got it, Did the unrevoked got S-ON flashed it and got back to stock. Does it matter that it still shows HBOOT 0.93.0000? Do I need it to show 0.76?
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no no no, 93 is good. 76 is an engineering bootloader that your shouldnt have. anything other than .76 is good!

DomSim said:
no no no, 93 is good. 76 is an engineering bootloader that your shouldnt have. anything other than .76 is good!
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I am in the same panic. EVO purchased 12/2010, I have no idea which HBOOT, PRI, various radios I had at the time. I've flashed SOOO many things since then... I have HBOOT 2.10.xxxxxx - should I downgrade the HBOOT? How?
I am:
S-On
Unrooted
Andr Ver: 2.2
Baseband: 2.15.00.11.19
Kernel: 2.6.32.17 (HTC #15)
Build: 3.70.651.1 CL294884 rel. keys
Software: same^
PRI: 1.90_003
PRL: 60681
Will thank, donate, buy beer (over 21 only
Thank y'all for generously sharing your knowledge!

Can i downgrade to Froyo 2.2 from a custom rom?

My phone is Rooted but i need S-Off so i can edit system files with OS Booted. Can i downgrade from any Cyanogenmod or do i need a Stock rom? If so, wich one so i can search for it.
Hboot .92
Radio 2.15.10.07.07
Clockwork 5.0.2.0
Sorry for any mistakes typing. ( Dominican Republic )

JuniorMacea said:
My phone is Rooted but i need S-Off so i can edit system files with OS Booted. Can i downgrade from any Cyanogenmod or do i need a Stock rom? If so, wich one so i can search for it.
Hboot .92
Radio 2.15.10.07.07
Clockwork 5.0.2.0
Sorry for any mistakes typing. ( Dominican Republic )
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Go to this link: http://www.mediafire.com/?qdzchln5vze836g and download the froyo RUU. It takes the phone back to stock, out-of-box, condition, as far as OS is concerned. You can then run the reflash package from unrevoked.com to achieve S-Off
Another user (soniclude) posted more in depth in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488351 which is more specifically about fixing the "low on space" warning. However, I don't recommend applying that fix... It made my incredible freeze and randomly reboot all the time. So I ended up reflashing back to stock to eliminate the "fix"

JuniorMacea said:
My phone is Rooted but i need S-Off so i can edit system files with OS Booted. Can i downgrade from any Cyanogenmod or do i need a Stock rom? If so, wich one so i can search for it.
Hboot .92
Radio 2.15.10.07.07
Clockwork 5.0.2.0
Sorry for any mistakes typing. ( Dominican Republic )
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Your best bet is to follow one of these threads.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1506258
or this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1600904
Both do the same thing just wrote up a little differently.

ggoodman1022 said:
Go to this link: http://www.mediafire.com/?qdzchln5vze836g and download the froyo RUU. It takes the phone back to stock, out-of-box, condition, as far as OS is concerned. You can then run the reflash package from unrevoked.com to achieve S-Off
Another user (soniclude) posted more in depth in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488351 which is more specifically about fixing the "low on space" warning. However, I don't recommend applying that fix... It made my incredible freeze and randomly reboot all the time. So I ended up reflashing back to stock to eliminate the "fix"
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So' i can flash that like a normal Rom? Would that downgrade not just rom, but my Radio n Hboot also, so i can use Unrevoked Forever?
Thx for the answer!
Edit: Sorry, now i see how it is done. Another question, can i do this using CM9 on my phone? Cause it is suppose to upgrade my phone.