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Any consequences other than losing root? I'm not too concerned about getting it right this second since I know these devs at xda will cook somethin nice up in a few days. Just want to know my options. THanks
EDIT: im running dc 3.2.3 (2.1)
It should just flash the new ROM. Yes, you'll lose root and it probably replaces the bootloader so you can't boot into recovery either, but it should be just another stock phone after that.
So I am rooted and go to load up the update and it puts me in the spot with the android guy and the /!\ what gives...
yourfriendwayned said:
So I am rooted and go to load up the update and it puts me in the spot with the android guy and the /!\ what gives...
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I'm in the same boat dude. I currently have UnrEVOked 3 on my phone. My guess is that is whats F'n it up
SantinoInc said:
I'm in the same boat dude. I currently have UnrEVOked 3 on my phone. My guess is that is whats F'n it up
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hmmm yup I have the same root method - great I thought it would just write over...
Well we all know by now once your phone is rooted you cannot do any ota, you are much better of waiting a day or two to get the rooted version from one of the dev.
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Im pretty bummed, also in the same boat.
jahnile said:
Well we all know by now once your phone is rooted you cannot do any ota, you are much better of waiting a day or two to get the rooted version from one of the dev.
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some of us dont care about loosing root, and as far as i knew i could at anytime upgrade to something sprint put out and all that would happen is i would loose root.
I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
SantinoInc said:
I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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It doesn't matter what you did to root it, you can un-root the same way
I don't want to ruu and erase everything either...
yourfriendwayned said:
I don't want to ruu and erase everything either...
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Well you just want the WORLD now don't you?
SantinoInc said:
Well you just want the WORLD now don't you?
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hmm is this a trick... do I have to trade my soul?
SantinoInc said:
I'm pretty pissed...I thought that an OTA would override the unrEVOked 3 since it's not even full root. Now I gotta figure out what to do next. There is another thread here that describes a method to UNROOT. But I'm not sure if it works with UNREVOKED 3
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This is my position aswell. Im sure i read pleanty of people saying unrevoked would have no effect on future updates, and the worst that would happen was loosing root.
eventually all the developers will migrate to froyo as a base so you can wait or you can unroot like me and install the OTA with no prob. When I installed the OTA it kinda installed like a regular app...did not go to bootloader or nothing like that. Then it just rebooted into froyo...did not lose anything such as installed apps or user data etc. It's all good eitherway you choose in my opinion. Keep root and wait...Unroot/OTA and wait...it will only be a short time like almost already and full froyo with root is a done deal...
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eventually all the developers will migrate to froyo as a base so you can wait or you can unroot like me and install the OTA with no prob. When I installed the OTA it kinda installed like a regular app...did not go to bootloader or nothing like that. Then it just rebooted into froyo...did not lose anything such as installed apps or user data etc. It's all good eitherway you choose in my opinion. Keep root and wait...Unroot/OTA and wait...it will only be a short time like almost already and full froyo with root is a done deal...
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Can you please list your steps for unrooting? I want to add the ota and reroot later.
Thanks,
Ian B
I had the june update so i was 1.47 but either way this is the program to use...
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g-roms-hacks/19278-how-unroot-return-stock.html
This in my opinion is the way to go...make sure you use the 1.47 one and you are good to go...then get the OTA FROYO...I did it this way.
I had Unrevoked3 on mine for wifi tethering..and did the manual leaked update (update.zip on sd card etc) and it worked just peachy, if you wanted to go that route. I did lost my root but none of my data (even superusers is still installed lol)
From what I read there isnt much of a difference between the .3 and .6 versions anyway
Maybe if you did that, then waited to see what HTC comes up with for us "early adopters" to get us up to speed lol
Im going to make this simple...since froyo..sniff...multitouch and tethering tried rooting and i did do th ota update btw so i guess thats my initial issue
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So what is your question? Not to sound like an ass, but you sound like a 5 year old who just dropped his ice cream cone!
Have you searched for what you are looking for already? There is a lot of threads that deal with 2.2 and tethering.
From what I can decipher from your horrid grammar is that you installed the OTA over your root and now multitouch and tethering don't work.
For right now you're screwed. Should pay attention to the forums when it said to NOT apply the OTA until it was rooted. Oh well. Sorry.
redrazr7791 said:
Not to sound like an ass, but you sound like a 5 year old who just dropped his ice cream cone!
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I was thinking more along the lines of Capt. Kirk on the original Star Trek: ""Was rooted....did ota....now...my...phone...doesn't.....work" LOL
ya and just like alot of us he is waiting for scotty to beam us up...
I;m given her all I gots cpt...The froyo is pushing 2.2...anymore and she gonna blow...LOL!!!
You've been here over 2 years and don't know to avoid OTA's or even more pathetically how to ask a question?
not sure how you installed ota over a rooted device. maybe you only rooted with no nand unlock and stayed on stock rom. i rooted and nand unlocked when I first got the phone and went to custom roms, and this would give me an update error of the triangle with the ! in middle when ota updates were released and i tried to install update. don't make it simple, try to give more detail please. there is talk about droid multi touch keyboard not working on 2.2 and talk of no wireless tether working either. it's been said that certian roms with godzsons kernel will get you wifi router to work, but it changes your cam down to 3mp. I have htc ota froyo 2.2 (rooted) odex rom from netarchy and was able to find that a search for wireless tether come up a new version not on the market. search for wireless tether 2.0.5 pre7. If you still have root on your phone, that will give you wireless tether without messing up your cam. good luck
I know this has probably been asked before, and I know that it is probably in the forums but I don't have the actual time to fully search right now. Is it possible to downgrade to an earlier version of android on the Evo, then root? I know when 1.6 was released for the G1 and MyTouch, you could go back down to RC29, exploit the loop and then root with the new 2.1. Any answer, no matter how simple of one, would be greatly appreciated.
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I know this has probably been asked before, and I know that it is probably in the forums but I don't have the actual time to fully search right now. Is it possible to downgrade to an earlier version of android on the Evo, then root? I know when 1.6 was released for the G1 and MyTouch, you could go back down to RC29, exploit the loop and then root with the new 2.1. Any answer, no matter how simple of one, would be greatly appreciated.
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OMFG ... you dont have time to search but you have time to create an account just to post this?
seriously?
lotddragon said:
I know this has probably been asked before, and I know that it is probably in the forums but I don't have the actual time to fully search right now. Is it possible to downgrade to an earlier version of android on the Evo, then root? I know when 1.6 was released for the G1 and MyTouch, you could go back down to RC29, exploit the loop and then root with the new 2.1. Any answer, no matter how simple of one, would be greatly appreciated.
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That's brilliant. I'm sure no one has thought of that yet...
lotddragon said:
I know this has probably been asked before, and I know that it is probably in the forums but I don't have the actual time to fully search right now. Is it possible to downgrade to an earlier version of android on the Evo, then root? I know when 1.6 was released for the G1 and MyTouch, you could go back down to RC29, exploit the loop and then root with the new 2.1. Any answer, no matter how simple of one, would be greatly appreciated.
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No because 2.2 removes the either the recovery or the bootloader it self.. I forgot . but what u need to downgrade aint there
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So, my evo is rooted with unrevoked. Im running 2.2 right now and want the 2.3.3.
If i do the update through sprint that it keeps telling me to download EVERYDAY...will it mess up my phone cause of the root..or what will it do?
IF i accept it...
please let me know. Its starting to annoy me lol
;15115565 said:
So, my evo is rooted with unrevoked. Im running 2.2 right now and want the 2.3.3.
If i do the update through sprint that it keeps telling me to download EVERYDAY...will it mess up my phone cause of the root..or what will it do?
IF i accept it...
please let me know. Its starting to annoy me lol
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Unless u ran unrevoked forever and have s off forever than by running the update u will lose root. Even if ur s off forever u run the risk of losing root as well. At best u can flash one of the gb roms in the dev section.
what if it is s-on?
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what if it is s-on?
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Then you're kinda outta luck til they find a root for the new OTA.
i used unrevoked3. does that make a difference between the forever? im kinda new at this stuff. my roommate is the whiz at this **** lol so ya. im tempted to unroot it and forget it all cause its actually messing up my phone more than ive used the gratefullness of the root
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what if it is s-on?
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If ur s on then ur not rooted. If u haven't taken the update then rerun unrevoked. If u have run update then u sol till new root method is found.
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i used unrevoked3. does that make a difference between the forever? im kinda new at this stuff. my roommate is the whiz at this **** lol so ya. im tempted to unroot it and forget it all cause its actually messing up my phone more than ive used the gratefullness of the root
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If I had to make a choice I'd go to the dev section and choose a rom that I liked and flashed that. Then u don't have to wireless bout it anymore. With root u unlock things but also can get alot better battery life and can customize things like percentage battery and different lock screeens and lots more. Just look around and test things out before u give up. Its not as hard as u think to get the hang of it.
ok wow im stupid.
unrevoked forever is what i used. my bad lol sorry.
s-off
we tried 3 but it wouldnt work for some reason so we did the forever.
phone is rooted for sure.
so if i did the sprint update from the "update phone" section on the phone...i would lose root? would it flash phone too? honestly at this point idc about the root anymore really. i am about to upgrade to the Evo 3D next weekend
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ok wow im stupid.
unrevoked forever is what i used. my bad lol sorry.
s-off
we tried 3 but it wouldnt work for some reason so we did the forever.
phone is rooted for sure.
so if i did the sprint update from the "update phone" section on the phone...i would lose root? would it flash phone too? honestly at this point idc about the root anymore really. i am about to upgrade to the Evo 3D next weekend
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If ur upgrading to 3vo then no big deal. Upon reading u might have to unroot phone to get update to work. If ur selling ur evo back to sprint when u get new phone then run the s on from unrevoked and then unroot and take update. If ur putting it on eBay or craigslist or selling to a friend u can unroot and leave it s off so other person can reroot if they want
ok. so where is the best instructions on how to unroot?
i seen one in the dev section near the top (Unroot in 2 steps)<---that one?
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ok. so where is the best instructions on how to unroot?
i seen one in the dev section near the top (Unroot in 2 steps)<---that one?
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Yeah prob ur best bet is there.
Why take the update when there are optimized ROMs based on the update that work better and have in them than what you'll get from the OTA??
Papa Smurf151 said:
If ur s on then ur not rooted. If u haven't taken the update then rerun unrevoked. If u have run update then u sol till new root method is found.
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Correct yourself and stop spreading wrong information.
S off does not mean you are rooted nor does it have any correlation with being rooted.
S off is the security flag which allows the bootloader to flash unsigned/unofficial images to the partitions.
An evo can be rooted and still have the security flag s on.
Even the installation instructions for unrevoked forever state you have to be rooted FIRST WITH A CUSTOM RECOVERY ALREADY INSTALLED in order to apply the unrevoked forever patch.
You should get your information straight before you start to put it out.
lovethyEVO said:
Correct yourself and stop spreading wrong information.
S off does not mean you are rooted nor does it have any correlation with being rooted.
S off is the security flag which allows the bootloader to flash unsigned/unofficial images to the partitions.
An evo can be rooted and still have the security flag s on.
Even the installation instructions for unrevoked forever state you have to be rooted FIRST WITH A CUSTOM RECOVERY ALREADY INSTALLED in order to apply the unrevoked forever patch.
You should get your information straight before you start to put it out.
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Wow post like this deserve to go in the shutter. I was helping the Guy out. If he was s on then there is more than a large percentage chance that he isn't rooted. Instead of getting technical I decided to help out in q way he'd understand. So quit being a douche.
Papa Smurf151 said:
Wow post like this deserve to go in the shutter. I was helping the Guy out. If he was s on then there is more than a large percentage chance that he isn't rooted. Instead of getting technical I decided to help out in q way he'd understand. So quit being a douche.
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I wasn't being a douche. You ever heard of constructive criticism? Op stated he was still rooted and didn't take the ota. He was wondering what would happen if he did. He was also unsure if he was s on or not which has nothing to do with being rooted. You gave wrong information about the security flag when you should have told him to verify if he is s off even though he has a rooted rom. If he was s on then you could have told him to flash unrevoked forever and then he can accept the ota if he wanted.
Helping is one thing, helping with wrong information is another.
Need to downgrade latest, 2.3.3 back to 2.2. anyone got anything for me?
There are countless threads on this subject in the Q&A forum. Please remember the forum rules before posting in the development board.
Thank you.
b0ricua said:
There are countless threads on this subject in the Q&A forum. Please remember the forum rules before posting in the development board.
Thank you.
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Not again?! Sorry, will have better judgement next time. Good day mida'!
just sent email to admin to please remove..
Tekn010933 said:
Need to downgrade latest, 2.3.3 back to 2.2. anyone got anything for me?
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Simply flash a 2.2 ROM...
Sooks said:
Simply flash a 2.2 ROM...
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depends on what he's wanting to do..if he's rooted trying to go stock or keep froyo with root, also, if he's stock GB and wants to go back to froyo, won't happen, hBoot versions different and will pop up with a message saying the update is too new or something like that.
so a little info on his part will help us out by helping him out!
Tekn010933 said:
Need to downgrade latest, 2.3.3 back to 2.2. anyone got anything for me?
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latest one, it's a pain getting out..
You didn't answer pnewgaards question. Most important one to know.
Tekn010933 said:
latest one, it's a pain getting out..
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Sorry, just so frustrated getting out of the latest. 2.3.3 / 4.24.651.1 was a new device and came preinstalled and updated. Been trying again today unsuccessfully, I feel so out of place with the only one in here unrooted?? LOL
Anyhows was really looking into on just delparting it(networkingskills) starting to take over my thoughts. Hell with it, delpart it n ,get dos boot disk made from win2000 to recreate Rom from cmd prompts?
Is there such a wipe? Mean just wipe all clean without it going back to recovery to reboot from?
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pnewgaard said:
depends on what he's wanting to do..if he's rooted trying to go stock or keep froyo with root, also, if he's stock GB and wants to go back to froyo, won't happen, hBoot versions different and will pop up with a message saying the update is too new or something like that.
so a little info on his part will help us out by helping him out!
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Sorry, just so frustrated getting out of the latest. 2.3.3 / 4.24.651.1 was a new device and came preinstalled and updated. Been trying again today unsuccessfully, I feel so out of place with the only one in here unrooted?? LOL
Anyhows was really looking into on just delparting it(networkingskills) starting to take over my thoughts. Hell with it, delpart it n ,get dos boot disk made from win2000 to recreate Rom from cmd prompts?
Is there such a wipe? Mean just wipe all clean without it going back to recovery to reboot from?
Sent from a very EvoMan
Sooks said:
Simply flash a 2.2 ROM...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUcja3jNRW0
i tried that last week and its not gonna work because the new software doesnt allow for the downgrade and theres no root method for the new ota yet. im in the same boat as you and theres plenty of other people dealing with the same issue. all we you can is just sit tight and wait for someone to come up with something...sry dude
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i tried that last week and its not gonna work because the new software doesnt allow for the downgrade and theres no root method for the new ota yet. im in the same boat as you and theres plenty of other people dealing with the same issue. all we you can is just sit tight and wait for someone to come up with something...sry dude
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Don't know if you heard the GREAT News?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20078309-94/htc-gives-timeline-for-unlocking-bootloaders/
Tekn010933 said:
Don't know if you heard the GREAT News?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20078309-94/htc-gives-timeline-for-unlocking-bootloaders/
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Whats the good news? They dont mention the EVO4G in there, and they wont unlock it either. Its almost to its EOL, they want us to buy new phones so why unlock it?
My 2¢
if you have another sprint phone.....
Call sprint, swap esn to other phone.
Sell yours on craigslist.
Buy another one on craigslist that's rooted (call and swap esn to phone to make sure it works)
Go home, install whatever you want.
knightwolf123 said:
My 2¢
if you have another sprint phone.....
Call sprint, swap esn to other phone.
Sell yours on craigslist.
Buy another one on craigslist that's rooted (call and swap esn to phone to make sure it works)
Go home, install whatever you want.
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MY 2 cents
Buy another one on craigslist that's rooted (call and swap esn to phone to make sure it works)
Call sprint, swap esn to other phone.
Sell yours on craigslist.
install whatever you want
ok u want to try this
use a stock 2.2 ota rom not a RUU just a .zip 2.2
go into recovery
remember vol up + power
on the blue letters and black screen select flash .zip
select install .zip from sdcard
please let me know what happens
i'm currently rooted...
just trying to help u
pretty sure that wont work fennix, if you are S-on and hboot 2.16 , pretty sure its been tried before and not working , but perhaps somone might be luckier
dont have a nanoid backup for old roms i do
2.3 is pushing this week, before accepting the update do I need to unroot my phone? It's on Unrevoked at the moment. Or can I push the update and it will magically unroot my phone? If that happens will unrevoked work again or will it be stuck in no root land till someone finds a root for 2.3?
Ugh! There are probably 20 threads that cover this but since there will probably be 20 more... If you want to stay rooted don't update until a Dev has had a chance to release a rooted stock version. Unrevoked will most likely (99%) not work to get you root.
Your best bet is to just be patient and keep an eye on the development section. Someone will definately release a rooted version, relatively quickly. I think the leaked gingerbread was rooted the same day it got leaked.
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Or you could just go to a custom ROM in the meantime... they're so much better than stock anyway
Aptalmagest said:
2.3 is pushing this week, before accepting the update do I need to unroot my phone? It's on Unrevoked at the moment. Or can I push the update and it will magically unroot my phone? If that happens will unrevoked work again or will it be stuck in no root land till someone finds a root for 2.3?
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It will not magically unroot your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16688892&postcount=72
So then I do need to unroot my phone do accept the update?
Aptalmagest said:
So then I do need to unroot my phone do accept the update?
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Yes. That's exactly what thread after thread is saying. Search function bro... Really. Frankly, I think doing such a thing would be pretty stupid, but that's your call. And I'll tell you exactly why it would be stupid......
In a few short days you're gonna see a flood of ADB rooted ROMs in the dev section that will unquestionably be better than the bone stock job you'll be totally stuck with. I can tell you from experience that just because its an OTA doesn't mean its better. And if you're that crazy for the bleeding edge of Android, the version of gingerbread in the OTA will not be as current as CM7. I don't personally like gingerbread much. It hasn't cracked up to be the magic elixir people make it out to be, just like so many new devices that everyone SWEARS will be the next digital Mecha.... Incidentally, I'm typing this on the HTC Mecha, which was swooned over for month, then hated on for all the same weaknesses the dInc has.
Friend to friend here... I wouldn't tell anyone to do what you're think of doing.
I'm being steered in the same direction. On 2.2 rooted with unrevoked. Unrooting is undeniably more complicated than rooting IMO and, as stated, the ROMs that are going to be builted off the 2.3 OTA will be better.
I'm just never flashed a ROM before so we'll see how that goes haha
You can unroot, go that route if you'd like. But there's already 2 rooted, ready to go zips of the OTA in the Development forum you could just download and flash.
I guess what I don't understand is, people seem to think that receiving the OTA you get MORE than just flashing the OTA zip that's been rooted/ready for flashing. IT'S THE SAME THING!
In order to unroot, reload the RUU or PB31IMG.zip file to get to stock, if something goes wrong, you've got a nice brick on your hands. You'll lose root when you unroot and accept the OTA, since Unrevoked's exploit is 99% more than likely patched.
You can do all of that work just to accept the OTA, but remember, you'll need to wait for root. Trust me, any day now you'll be seeing the threads of "I accepted the OTA and Unrevoked doesn't work!"...please don't be in that group of people.
GinNjoose said:
I'm being steered in the same direction. On 2.2 rooted with unrevoked. Unrooting is undeniably more complicated than rooting IMO and, as stated, the ROMs that are going to be builted off the 2.3 OTA will be better.
I'm just never flashed a ROM before so we'll see how that goes haha
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Dude, use Doug Piston's ROM Flashing Tutorial, here. It's easy.
After the screen shot showing Wiping Cache, also do:
Mounts and Storage - format /system, format /data, format /boot
Advanced - Wipe Dalvik
Then resume at the Install zip from SD Card screen shot...
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Yes. That's exactly what thread after thread is saying. Search function bro... Really. Frankly, I think doing such a thing would be pretty stupid, but that's your call. And I'll tell you exactly why it would be stupid......
In a few short days you're gonna see a flood of ADB rooted ROMs in the dev section that will unquestionably be better than the bone stock job you'll be totally stuck with. I can tell you from experience that just because its an OTA doesn't mean its better. And if you're that crazy for the bleeding edge of Android, the version of gingerbread in the OTA will not be as current as CM7. I don't personally like gingerbread much. It hasn't cracked up to be the magic elixir people make it out to be, just like so many new devices that everyone SWEARS will be the next digital Mecha.... Incidentally, I'm typing this on the HTC Mecha, which was swooned over for month, then hated on for all the same weaknesses the dInc has.
Friend to friend here... I wouldn't tell anyone to do what you're think of doing.
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This is wrong..you can stay s-off but you need stock recovery and stock 2.2 rom
/droid3
beard0 said:
This is wrong..you can stay s-off but you need stock recovery and stock 2.2 rom
/droid3
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I appreciate the correction.
I would definitely not root & go to JoelZ's thread & download the rooted version of the 2.3.4 update!!!
RMarkwald said:
Dude, use Doug Piston's ROM Flashing Tutorial, here. It's easy.
After the screen shot showing Wiping Cache, also do:
Mounts and Storage - format /system, format /data, format /boot
Advanced - Wipe Dalvik
Then resume at the Install zip from SD Card screen shot...
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ALRIGHT HERE GOES NUTHIN!
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SUCCESS! Joel's 2.3.4 release flashed! Wow, that really was easy! I got scared when it hung on backup during the generation of the MD5 sum though, took all of like 10 min..... what does that mean anyway?