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Ok, the browser is great in terms of the speed, layout, support for animations/javascript etc. But I think the interface sucks a little. Where's the home page? I have to press 3 buttons, and yet `share` and this other crap I'm never going to use (share a web page? what does that even mean?) is right in your face. I find bookmarks clumsy to navigate, and there doesn't seem to be and way of constructing a folder full of bookmarks in under 30 minutes. If I double click to zoom then half the time I'll not quite double click and it'll load whatever link I clicked on first, so I have to double click on a blank part of the page, or use pinch to zoom, neither of which is ideal. How do I stop a page from loading if I've made a mistake or changed my mind? I'm not used to browsers with no stop button. Seems that you're supposed to just wait.
When I'm zooming in , it would be nice if the text was reformatted to fit the current width of the screen. Otherwise I have to keep scrolling left and right as I read. Am I supposed to have to do that? It would be nice to have a `reformat` button. Oh, but not hidden away on a sub menu somewhere like the home page is, but accessible from a long-click on the current page.
It's as if the browser was coded by two entirely different teams - a really competent one which has produced a fast, powerful browser which handles most web pages perfectly; and some other guys who've knocked up some rubbish front end quickly.
1) About stopping the page. You can either click in the top-right, where the refresh icon normally is, or you can press the back hardware button.
2) I'm guessing your Desire is from Orange? They took out the re-formatting function for some crappy reason. Really pees me off as well
Try xScope browser, probably that will solve your problem.
gogol said:
Try xScope browser, probably that will solve your problem.
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I've tried a couple of other browsers, and they're usually rubbish (no multitouch etc). The stock browser just needs a few fixes and it'll be fine.
dpk said:
1) About stopping the page. You can either click in the top-right, where the refresh icon normally is, or you can press the back hardware button.
2) I'm guessing your Desire is from Orange? They took out the re-formatting function for some crappy reason. Really pees me off as well
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Yeah, it's Orange uk - home of the `yeah, lets take off Google Talk but leave the service running all the time` customization. The sooner there's a safe way of putting on a stock rom (with the possibility of putting back the crap Orange one if I need help from Orange) the better!
I'm in exactly the same boat as you mate, and it pisses me off too. I just wanna go generic, and i'll be happy.
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Yeah, it's Orange uk - home of the `yeah, lets take off Google Talk but leave the service running all the time` customization. The sooner there's a safe way of putting on a stock rom (with the possibility of putting back the crap Orange one if I need help from Orange) the better!
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It's currently perfectly safe to flash a stock rom. An Orange branded rom will appear soon as a lot of operator specific roms are currently surfacing.
I have quite a few major annoyances with the stock browser although I like it best from the offerings. One of which was the stop button, the home button and the zoom. It always zoom in far too much and usually I'm one handed so that becomes a pain.
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Well, it seems you have not tried xScope.
It is pretty good and it does pinch to zoom etc.
Also, there is a new "Dolphin Browser HD".
But yeah, stock browser user interface sucks! I really don't understand why it does not have proper "favorites" feature.
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I've tried a couple of other browsers, and they're usually rubbish (no multitouch etc). The stock browser just needs a few fixes and it'll be fine.
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I think the default browser is the best but it's too complicate to switch from a tab to another one.
Is there an android web browser that support the **file upload** ?
I really like the Android browser... but i've had crap phones in the past.
Omnia, 5800XM then the Tattoo which i loved and caused me to get the Desire.
gogol said:
Well, it seems you have not tried xScope.
It is pretty good and it does pinch to zoom etc.
Also, there is a new "Dolphin Browser HD".
But yeah, stock browser user interface sucks! I really don't understand why it does not have proper "favorites" feature.
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I have switched to Dolphin Browser HD, very nice.
It has tabs at the top so they are easy to switch between and also has swipe gestures to open a tab menu. Works almost exactly the same as the stock browser including pinch to zoom, I don't think it uses our flash lite though but flash lite isn't really worth it currently.
Orange took out the text wrapping? Crazy.
This is my first non-HtC phone and am quite disappointed and frustrated at the lack of pinch to zoom as well as text rewrapping with the default browser on my GSM Galixy Nexus. I tried other browsers(Chrome, Dolphin HD and Opera)but all with mixed results. Dolphin didn't zoom at all, Crhome did but doesn't rewrap and Opera did both but only on certain sites. What's the deal here? Are HtC phones the only ones on the planet that are capable of performing this no-brainer feature on mobile web browsing, or is there a browser or custom rom that anybody can suggest to me, that will do this for me. Having to squint to read text is no fun and quite headache inducing, and text not fitting the screen properly, all but negates the point of having a large screen if I'm constantly having to zoom left and right to read it all. Thanks ahead of time for anyone willing and able to help remedy this maddening issue.
The text will reflow, you just have to double tap the text after you pinch. Its not like htc that doed it automatically.
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The text will reflow, you just have to double tap the text after you pinch. Its not like htc that doed it automatically.
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I can confirm this and thankfully it isn't like the HTC way, it is optional and I love it
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issue pretty much solved
Well thankfully after going through a stock 4.0.1 rom to a custom 4.0.2 to now a 4.0.3 rom I finally have the more consistent pinch to zoom capability with the browser. It doesn't rewrap quite as well but at least it does it. I'm curious as to why you and other prefer it not to work like HTC does it? What's the downside to having it rewrap automatically? I'm fine with double tapping to do it too just as long as it does it. But if you can skip that step altogether, why not?
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Well thankfully after going through a stock 4.0.1 rom to a custom 4.0.2 to now a 4.0.3 rom I finally have the more consistent pinch to zoom capability with the browser. It doesn't rewrap quite as well but at least it does it. I'm curious as to why you and other prefer it not to work like HTC does it? What's the downside to having it rewrap automatically? I'm fine with double tapping to do it too just as long as it does it. But if you can skip that step altogether, why not?
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I just like options haha
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What's the downside to having it rewrap automatically? I'm fine with double tapping to do it too just as long as it does it. But if you can skip that step altogether, why not?
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I hate this automatic text wrapping feature. The only time I really use pinch to zoom is when I want to fokus on something "small" and hard to hit like a link (I use double tap to zoom in on a paragraph for reading. I find that much more convenient). When the text automatically rewraps after zooming I almost all the time lose my original zoom target. It's so annoying that I was glad to see that Google only rewrap text on demand.
But I think many like the automatic text rewrap. All I can say is that I'm not one of them.
Just fyi the galaxy nexus works the same as my nexus one. Stock android browser has always functioned like this, its not new. Htc always changed it on their devices.
Well, I've since found a rom where the browser does a little better with the zooming in and rewrapping, so I can finally put that behind me. I guess the tid bit that you mentioned about the stock browser acting that way shouldn't have been too big of a surprise to me. When I had the HD2 with Windows 6.5, I was so excited at the ability to port Android roms to it, so I put one on there based off of a Nexus One rom. The browser acted just as you said. Only roms meant for HTc phones and of course genuine HTC sense roms all acted the way I'm used to. I guess I was just so flabbergasted and frustrated that automatic text rewrapping was either not as in demand by other users I would have imagined, or that HTC had some how weren't allowing others to tweak the browser in that way. Double tapping is a fine and fair compromise though.
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I hate this automatic text wrapping feature. The only time I really use pinch to zoom is when I want to fokus on something "small" and hard to hit like a link (I use double tap to zoom in on a paragraph for reading. I find that much more convenient). When the text automatically rewraps after zooming I almost all the time lose my original zoom target. It's so annoying that I was glad to see that Google only rewrap text on demand.
But I think many like the automatic text rewrap. All I can say is that I'm not one of them.
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You might try giving Chrome Beta a try. In the default ICS browser, double tapping pretty much just zooms you in by a random/arbitrary amount. Chrome Beta acts a little more like the iPhone in that when you double tap on an element (like a paragraph or picture) it zooms to fit that element on screen. Works perfectly IMO.
Just wondering if anyone else has the same issues that I get with the stock browser.
It seems quite sluggish when scrolling but the main problem is when zooming in, it is slow to redraw. When zooming out I get a large white screen around the part I was looking at and have to wait a couple of seconds for it to redraw. I have looked at various browser hands on one YouTube and none seem to have this issue.
It also seems to just close itself occasionally with no error message.
Thanks for any input.
I've installed Chrome beta and it offers a lot better browsing experience. It doesnt seem to have the redrawing bug when you zoom in.
Those reviews on the Internet have an updated version of the OS. Most likely this update fixed the issue.
Ya, the browser is terrible slow when it comes to scrolling and pinch to zoom. But I never had a delay of seconds. Definitely something wrong btw with some lower level implementations . Stock ICS browser has the same problems.
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Those reviews on the Internet have an updated version of the OS. Most likely this update fixed the issue.
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How nice for HTC to make sure the review devices were updated hehe.
Maybe I have been spoiled with the browser experience on my Galaxy S2 with a custom rom . Pretty sure back when that was new I had similar issues.
At least some noted developers are already here and working on Roms.
Will give Chrome a try too.
Don't know if this for sure, but i faced non of the phone arena touch issues
i had 3 fingers gestures disabled in the phone settings and hence had full multitouch
if someone can confirm it works better with full multitouch?
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Just wondering if anyone else has the same issues that I get with the stock browser.
It seems quite sluggish when scrolling but the main problem is when zooming in, it is slow to redraw. When zooming out I get a large white screen around the part I was looking at and have to wait a couple of seconds for it to redraw. I have looked at various browser hands on one YouTube and none seem to have this issue.
It also seems to just close itself occasionally with no error message.
Thanks for any input.
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Sounds weird. I spend at least 4 hours browsing on my phone everyday (news, forums, deviantart, 500px, etc) and I honestly cannot compare my experience to any other. It's butterly smooth, fast as hell, and most vivid. My only complaint is the battery life, I can't get more than 5 hours of browsing on WiFi...no matter what.
I think you may have a rogue app in the background. Try reflashing your stock ROM without restoring any apps, and see if the problem continues.
Cheers
this video shows exactly how i described the browser, locked 60fps with only the tiling/flash effect when the page snaps, happens in split second, first time i experienced such a smooth stock browser, its much smoother than opera mobile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=KATvmiBcXvw&nomobile=1
im convinced the issues you guys mention are related to the 3 touch gesture mode in settings, i had this setting disabled
I had lag also and when i got the phone ran the multi touch and would only record 2 fingers max, disabled HTC's 3 finger swipe and now it is very responsive. Ran the test again and now records up to 9 fingers.
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I had lag also and when i got the phone ran the multi touch and would only record 2 fingers max, disabled HTC's 3 finger swipe and now it is very responsive. Ran the test again and now records up to 9 fingers.
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hold on a second! first thanks for confirming the browser issues are related to this setting
maybe this is the cause of all problems!
3 finger swipe is actually used to send the image/mirror to the HDMI output, maybe its causing the other issues?
I should thank you for bring up disabling the 3 finger swipe which reminded me of the the touch sensor test i ran when i got the phone.
Thanks.
Hi everyone this is just a quick poll in regards to how your stock browser performs compared to Chrome (if you use it)
I'm not sure if this is just me or if everyone is experiencing this. I never really used the stock browser since right when I got my phone I installed Chrome, but lately its performance have been laggy on both my Transformer Prime and Galaxy Nexus..so I did a quick scrolling test.
1. browsed to www.engadget.com full desktop version
2. Wait for page to completely load
3. Scrolled up and down through the page.
I found Chrome even after the page was completely loaded continued to try the render images causing choppy scrolling while the stock was smooth.
Chrome belongs on the desktop, imo. Eye candy aside, it doesn't (imo) bring anything to the table, and is slower/fatter than stock.
I love stock not only cuz its smoother but it will open flawlessly any flash site lol..
Chrome looks good still need some work tho.. No flash support but hey keep in mind its still a beta..
So might get way better than stock or become a "safari like in apple" in the upcoming android versions
Galaxy Nexus AOKP m5 Franco kernel m3
Stock ftw.
...of the people, by the people, for the people...
I have noticed that the Chrome browser does seem to lag on the "heavy media" type sites...
Keep in mind though that it's based on the Google Chrome for Desktop code base, which in theory should be updated more frequently then the codebase for the stock browser...
Also, I believe it's been stated that it will never get Flash support (Officially...?)
Seems about the same to me. Admittedly I'm not a very heavy browser on my phone though. Few pages a day at most.
Chrome starts a bit slower but I find it's slightly faster going from one website to another. Stock browser remains the default as I want to keep Flash and full screen browsing.
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Also, I believe it's been stated that it will never get Flash support (Officially...?)
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Correct.
From Google: https://developers.google.com/chrome/mobile/docs/faq
From Adobe: http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/02/flash-chrome-for-android-beta.html
Chrome has lagged for me from day 1 since it released, while stock was always smooth. I've never understood all the people who see opposite. I just thought I lived in the twilight zone.
So your results are normal to me. Plus chrome runs a huge service that never closes and skews multitasking.
Plus stock has invert color option for all black web pages. And the quick controls on side of the screen. To me the stock browser pretty much destroys chrome in every way. I think chrome gets better html5 scores though.
I used to use the stock browser, but I recently switched over to Firefox Beta. Now, before you all say that Firefox is slow as hell, the current beta has a new UI that is actually pretty fast. Not as fast as stock is, but the fact that Firefox has addons more than makes up for that. Adblock Plus, and other addons are a must for me. Although I have AdAway to block ads globally, it does not get rid of the empty spaces inside webpages. Adblock Plus does this. I'm currently using FF as my main browser and stock as my backup browser.
I'm a big fan of Opera Mobile since WM6.1.
I like the start page with the thumbs/shortcuts. Stock doesn't have it.
I like that all the controls are at the bottom of the screen. Stock tab control is on the top which is not convenient to switch between tabs (and I'm using tabs a lot).
Go for Opera mobile!!
PS: I have no idea how slow/fast is Opera. Because I didn't compare it.
I have tried most of the browsers,they have beautiful features but they are not as fast as stock so i always return to stock after trying
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Chrome has potential but it is a resource hog just like on the PC and double-tap zoom bugs out a lot, and doesn't even work at all on images.
Stock still wins, unless you need to download a large file... Opera handles that much better.
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Chrome will never get flash because all new browsers are going to be using HTML5
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I think they both have similar performance (minus one not having flash). But I think chrome does some things better than the stock browser.
It handles tabs much better vs stock without quick controls. It will also zoom in with a little popup window if you press on two links which are close together so you can select the right one. Also, when pinch zooming the browser doesn't wait until you lift your fingers to render the rest of the page.
Some people may also prefer the fact that the nav bar is persistent in chrome.
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I'm a big fan of Opera Mobile since WM6.1.
I like the start page with the thumbs/shortcuts. Stock doesn't have it.
I like that all the controls are at the bottom of the screen. Stock tab control is on the top which is not convenient to switch between tabs (and I'm using tabs a lot).
Go for Opera mobile!!
PS: I have no idea how slow/fast is Opera. Because I didn't compare it.
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Why not use the quick control on stock browser? It has a real great tab control, just slide and hold. And the quick control appears on any part of the screen you want.
I have the same browser issues with CM11 on the LG OG Pro as the ones I illustrate here in this video on another device, so I point to it for the purpose of explanation.
1. One finger zoom and scrolling are not working correctly.
2. The address bar never leaves once it is invoked, unless the browser is fully closed.
3. One thing I did not capture on video was that the browser will often get stuck in a "jitter" fest where it bounces rapidly up and down until fully closed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5vfJXoilh4
Do you have thse issues as well?
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I have the same browser issues with CM11 on the LG OG Pro as the ones I illustrate here in this video on another device, so I point to it for the purpose of explanation.
1. One finger zoom and scrolling are not working correctly.
2. The address bar never leaves once it is invoked, unless the browser is fully closed.
3. One thing I did not capture on video was that the browser will often get stuck in a "jitter" fest where it bounces rapidly up and down until fully closed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5vfJXoilh4
Do you have thse issues as well?
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I tried to recreate your issue but it's working fine for me using chrome
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I tried to recreate your issue but it's working fine for me using chrome
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Well, I agree, but that's not what the thread or the video itself is about because Chrome isn't the stock CM11/AOSP browser.
Chrome works, but the stock browser doesn't.
I have same problem, everything is working except the stock browser.