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Headphone adapter

Has anybody actually managed to use their own headphones using an adapter. Thinking of buying the XDA Orbit but I'm cautious about the usb headphone socket.
Thanks,
Ezman

the bundled headphones are absolute toss! i'd love to be able to use my own...

ezman said:
Has anybody actually managed to use their own headphones using an adapter. Thinking of buying the XDA Orbit but I'm cautious about the usb headphone socket.
Thanks,
Ezman
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Expansys will ship the adapter on the 8th of December (http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=138247) . I haven't found this adapter anywhere else and I don't know of anyone who has it (except one guy in this very forum???) so I can't let you know if it's acceptable and working as promised or not.
One thing that should be VERY interesting is if the radio reception is good with this adapter and a pair of standard headphones attached to it (and using the FM radio registry hack). Has anybody (who has the adapter of course...) tried it?

well if it's the same as the spv m3100 socket then this should work, not that i have any confidence in my ability to successfully do it
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/08/18/orange_spv_m3100_headphone_adapter_hack

Any progress on adapters for this device? It's a bit of a setback to not be able to use your own headphones with this device isn't it? Maybe I just need to get an ipod and shut up but hell, seems like a shame when i could use my old magician as an mp3 player.

Here's someone who uses the HTC S620 Audio Jack Converter.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=8412073#post8412073
I just ordered one but it won't ship until January.

this one i finded today
http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverter.php

Mokyman said:
this one i finded today
http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverter.php
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Cool. But will it support the Radio?

http://www.absolutesurf.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=66
Mod it sucessfully! Sounds awesome with my Sony Ex-51.. I might wanna dump my stereo BT for this.. haha

meer said:
Cool. But will it support the Radio?
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i think so...

And is the sound level loud enough with this adaptor and a good headphone. I mean with the media player because for all other applications (FM radio, phone, etc...) it's OK.

consono said:
...(and using the FM radio registry hack)...
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Does this registry hack exist? I would love to be able to use my own headphones instead of the crappy XDA ones.

HKLM/System/State/Hardware/
set Headset to '1'
but the next time, your headset is connected and reconnected, the registry entry is again reset to '0'
it makes no sence to use the 'hack', cause all You will get is broadband noise without an antenna connected.
if you are familar with soldering, you can open the mic-housing (carefully with your fingernails), unsolder the headphones, and replace it with an 3.5mm female jack. So you can use Your own headphones, and the antenna is still connected.

meer said:
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No it doesnt, although i have this adapter in my car so i can run the mp3s off my phone, and the car stereo has radio anyway, which i may add never has anything good on anyway
Also, when this adapter is connected to the car, when someone rings i can hear them through the cars speakers but the adapter blocks the microphone signal so the person calling cannot hear me

kinski said:
HKLM/System/State/Hardware/
set Headset to '1'
but the next time, your headset is connected and reconnected, the registry entry is again reset to '0'
it makes no sence to use the 'hack', cause all You will get is broadband noise without an antenna connected.
if you are familar with soldering, you can open the mic-housing (carefully with your fingernails), unsolder the headphones, and replace it with an 3.5mm female jack. So you can use Your own headphones, and the antenna is still connected.
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This is actually quite easy to do, just buy a socket from Maplin for about £3 then solder between the mic and the crappy htc eadphones. Viola - I now have my senheissers back AND mic and radio function! OK I do have about 2 metres of cable to route around my clothing but that just adds to the fun.

debully said:
This is actually quite easy to do, just buy a socket from Maplin for about £3 then solder between the mic and the crappy htc eadphones. Viola - I now have my senheissers back AND mic and radio function! OK I do have about 2 metres of cable to route around my clothing but that just adds to the fun.
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Just did that last weekend, but when I popped open the housing with my fingernail, well there really is not enough room to fit a jack socket in there, with the headset that comes with the o2 orbit anyway, the mic is right in the way. I had a really slim socket all ready to go which I'd pulled out of a tiny broken sony radio. So I had to just chop the end off a 3.5mm extension lead with a nice ready moulded on socket. It was a 5 min job and looks like it was made that way, everything still works.

Modified Original Stereo EarPhone

hI..
I have modified the original stereo ear phone and the sounds is much better quality than original ear phone.
Just need to invest a good stereo earphone and at the same time u still can use the original stereo earphone functionality... to pick up calls etc.
Can leave my ipod at home now.

How did you modify this?
I would love to modify mine. Please explain .
What do I need in hardware ?
Tools
And Know how?

I too have modified headphones. Now I can connect any.

AD10 said:
How did you modify this?
I would love to modify mine. Please explain .
What do I need in hardware ?
Tools
And Know how?
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Yeah! Did you open the grey box, or did you "cut and past" the wires after the grey box?
PK

paalkr said:
Yeah! Did you open the grey box, or did you "cut and past" the wires after the grey box?
PK
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I've opened it its easy. Solder points are so obvious. Like a walk in the park..
Photo is a bit fuzzy, Long live the artemis camera!

what do you guys think of this....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290072099484&sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:UK:1
I emailed the seller to ask if radio would work and he replied that it would (don't necessarily believe him though).

how to i open the case?

this will not work....the usb is mean for Motorola phone...and for Artemis...u can't plug in the whole usb adapter...
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what do you guys think of this....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290072099484&sspagename=ADME:L:RTQ:UK:1
I emailed the seller to ask if radio would work and he replied that it would (don't necessarily believe him though).
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simontee said:
this will not work....the usb is mean for Motorola phone...and for Artemis...u can't plug in the whole usb adapter...
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So this...
Compatible with:
1. MDA COMPACT 3, HTC P3300, O2 ORBIT, DOPOD P800W, ORANGE M650, HTC ARTEMIS 160
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means the seller is lying?

There are 2 types of mini-USB standards I know of. One is the standard motorola one. The other is enhanced mini-USB JUST for HTC devices.
If this guy mentioned a whole list of HTC devices and picture a P3300 with it, I pretty much think that it's the real deal.
If it works for audio, radio shouldn't be a prob

DocMAX said:
how to i open the case?
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Put your nails between the plasic covers on the sides where the cabels come in and out. It should release pretty easy.

ezman said:
I emailed the seller to ask if radio would work and he replied that it would (don't necessarily believe him though).
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I might work for FM but it looks to me like it would work badly. Since the wire serves as an antenna if the extention extends the antenna length at best you'd only be able to pick up the lowest frequencies.

really? i've never found the length of the antenna caused problems for fm reception, i used to make my own so i could get better pirate radio station reception. I used to get a long piece of electrical wire, attach it to the (broken) aerial on the radio and hang it out of the window - worked every time

ezman said:
really? i've never found the length of the antenna caused problems for fm reception, i used to make my own so i could get better pirate radio station reception. I used to get a long piece of electrical wire, attach it to the (broken) aerial on the radio and hang it out of the window - worked every time
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That's great! I've had to form a make-shift car radio antenna myself because some lovely person felt the need to break off the one attached. With trial-and-error 2 clothes hangers worked just fine. However antenna lenth is very important in fm reception because fm is a part of the electromagnetic spectrum that arrives in th form of a wave and: wavelength=light speed/frequency. The fm spectrum is 88MHz to 108MHz. As it turns out fm is about 3 meters in length so the optimal antenna to pick that up is 1/4 of the wave or about 75cm.

wow i haven't seen a clothes hangar aerial in ages i'm sure i used to see them all the time!
Anyway, I ordered one of these adapters and will gladly report back the results if the thing ever turns up

Hi well i got my adapter...as i promised above, here's my feedback....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290072099600
It's exactly as described, I can get FM radio, of course you can just plug in the adapter and no headphones to use the loudspeaker.
It also has a mic and a button to answer calls. The L shaped USB input is a great design compared with those sticky outy ones. Plus the length allows me to use my ex71 headphones without the really long attachment. Overall very happy Ordered last Wednesday, got it today.
Now to transfer music to that damn internal microsd
Edit: Evaluator was right, the FM reception has suffered. Though I can still get FM reception in strong areas, it's nowhere near as good as with the supplied headset. Oh well...It's still great for using as an mp3 player.

I have also purchased this little adapter and it works a treat with my Sony earphones. Radio signal is excellent and sound is phenominal compared to the standard headset.
Phone works properly with the call pickup button and the microphone allows your caller to hear you clearly.
A worthwhile purchase for £9.99 inc postage.

Radio Broadcast unit for Orbit?

Hi,
I was wondering if there is such a device that allows you to tune into a radio frequency and receive your mp3 / wma music broadcast over. It would be handy for the car. I know its really creating a pirate radio station but the Apple Ipod's have the technology.
Thanks
Michael.

You can do this, you will need the mini-USB to 3,5MM addaptor cable (search the forum, it is listed in many places within the Artemis section) then get an FM Transmitter, they were made legal for use in the UK at the begining of last December. In use they are not perfect with signal loss/ other stations bleeding into what you are listening to - PC World for a legal device or E-bay and take a chance - Mike

Can anyone find a reason why this wouldn't work as it seems like the perfect thing to do this. FM transmitter that connects via mini usb.

I don't know where you can check this, but many countries changed their laws affecting "illegal Radio Stations". In Germany for example the FM Transmitters are legal by now, as long as they don't radio over more than say 10 metres.

doublehard said:
Can anyone find a reason why this wouldn't work as it seems like the perfect thing to do this. FM transmitter that connects via mini usb.
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Remember we still need the pins to match the proprietry HTC mini USB

victoradjei said:
Remember we still need the pins to match the proprietry HTC mini USB
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I don't suppose there is any way of knowing this without actually buying one is there? I don't fancy spending £30 if it won't work .

victoradjei said:
Remember we still need the pins to match the proprietry HTC mini USB
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I've heard this before, but I use the same USB cable and charger for my Orbit as for my RAZR V3 and they both seem to work correctly (i.e. they charge and sync to Wintel AND mac).
What exactly is the difference? Isn't USB a standard, there should be no variation.

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I've heard this before, but I use the same USB cable and charger for my Orbit as for my RAZR V3 and they both seem to work correctly (i.e. they charge and sync to Wintel AND mac).
What exactly is the difference? Isn't USB a standard, there should be no variation.
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My caution was about the fm radio. If this was true for the fm radio, we could all listen via speakr phone using "any sync/charge cable at all"

Isn't that more to do with the way the orbit/Artemis implement its FM aerial rather than any differences in the USB pinouts?

T-Mobile Dash 3 in one Headphone Adapter Problem

Okay, so I using a dash on Kavana 6.1 ver: 4.1.13.41
anyways, I bought a 3 in one adapter off eBay the other day with an htc label (supposedly designed for the dash) I also own a regular mini usb to 3.5mm adapter which also doesn't seem to work....the phone will play the music regularly and not pick up that their is a headphone piece connected being either a 3.5mm or 2.5mm though it does pick up if a charger is connected through the 3in one...Could this be the Kavanna could it be the mini usb port? I've tried different headphones...I actually used to listen to music when I first bought the phone when back when but stopped for quite a while....well hope someone can help me thank you!!

i have the kavana 6.1 rom with a 3 in 1 and also a stand alone 3.5mm converter and both work.
its either one of 2 things. 1. you have a hosed mini usb jack on your excalibur ( this does happen from time to time) 2. you have bad adapters not made for the excalibur. I have never bought stuff like this off of ebay, but thats my preference. I bought both of my adapters from here: http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000048&products_id=5314
and here:
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000048&products_id=5414
i know its more pricey than ebay or other sites, but sometimes you get what you pay for.

This is just what i think, i have seen a ton of adaptors that do 3.5mm conversion and they fit in but they do not work, they are for motorola's and other same type adaptor plug in's, so this 3 in 1 adaptor is most likely not an HTC one, ebay is the worse place to buy an adaptor as u can see its probably not an HTC capible adaptor.
Buy Adaptors only from HTC if u wanna be 100% cause anything else is not 100%
Or in person so you can test.

i have bought from ebay for cheap $1.9 (usb to 3.5mm) and they work fine.

well you got lucky not like our fellow poster, there are a ton out there that are fake ones that wont work, just wanna stay away from those anyway you can.

Amazon is where i get my stuff from. I never had any problems with anything.
Hey I got a question for yew folks:
Does the motorola usb headphones work on the dash? Im an audiophile and cheap sounding headphones (like htc's) drive me nuts. The motorola ones I had for the razr and slivr sounded pretty good but I would like to know for sure if they work before I go and spend my money on a pair.

Thanks for all the replies everyone, first off Pudge what was that you said about the mini usb being bad? (how does that work exactly?)
...PPC I think I'll definitely have to stop by the T-mobile store today see if they carry H.T.C. headphones try those out..
..Phatman I have read somewhere that yes you can use the Motorola on the Dash (but it might of been just the bluetooth ones...possibly..)

well actually its not really about the mini usb port being bad, but more of it being stuck in one mode or another. i have seen people here post that the mini usb always being stuck in the headphone mode or never going into headphone mode no matter what. either way, it doesn't prevent you from charging the phone, just that it prevents you from utilizing the port in all the ways that its capable of performing. Usually i've seen the only fix being replacement of the phone (unless you're really good at replacing internal components of the phone yourself).

timepassman said:
i have bought from ebay for cheap $1.9 (usb to 3.5mm) and they work fine.
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i did to works fine

1Airborne1 said:
i did to works fine
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What's the thread title "I bought a 3.5mm adapter rom Ebay & it works"
All pudge was stating is that you take a chance when buying something off ebay not all 3.5mm jacks are the same many manufacturers of phones make the connection slightly different. "You will see the black bits on the plug they can be moved about" <- Simplified
No need to post i got one and ok

FM Radio Question

Is it possible to play FM radio without headset inserted by using some sort of hack.

That hack would involve convincing your phone to tune into a signal without an aerial. That will be quite the feat...let us know how that works out.

Ok that was my original thought. So what would happen if i where to get a pair of headphones and cut all the wire off and just use the plug. Do you think i would still get signal then or would it need the wire.

The wire IS the aerial. you need it. The phone's inbuilt antenna won't do it, the plug is also not sufficient. Sorry

Darn it!!!
oh well i suppose last FM will do.
Thanks for your replys m8

one way i always used to do it (and works on the desire perfectly)
is get some old, maybe non working headphones, cut them off at about 5 cm from the plug, and there you go.
you will ofcourse not get as good reception as usually, but where i live i have no trouble at all, the signal is crystal clear

ziao said:
one way i always used to do it (and works on the desire perfectly)
is get some old, maybe non working headphones, cut them off at about 5 cm from the plug, and there you go.
you will ofcourse not get as good reception as usually, but where i live i have no trouble at all, the signal is crystal clear
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Cheers M8 I'll give that a go tonight been dying to cut my Iphone headphones up since i got rid of it.