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Setting up Push mail in WM6 & Vista

Now that Vista doesn't require ActiveSync, I can't find where you set up the push mail settings? I know you can do some of it on the device, but there are other settings for it that required using ActiveSync on the PC... such as selecting which folders to sync.
Is there an equivalent to that function in Vista?

I think you're confused... You're gonna need access to an Exchange 2003 server before push mail is gonna work for you.
(Isn't there some sort of questionaire potential members have to fill out before they're allowed to become actual menbers? This isn't HoFo, after all...)

richy240 said:
I think you're confused... You're gonna need access to an Exchange 2003 server before push mail is gonna work for you.
(Isn't there some sort of questionaire potential members have to fill out before they're allowed to become actual menbers? This isn't HoFo, after all...)
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OK smartass, I've already got the Exchange 2003 server and it's set up and working just fine on my phone with push. I just asked how to modify the settings on the PC like I did with ActiveSync in XP. Vista doesn't have ActiveSync anymore, so what do I use to modify the push settings?
Don't they do some sort of a reading comprehension test before people are allowed to become actual members?

...well... no question is a bad question, but... Have you checked the Microsoft Windows Mobile site for this info? It is pretty basic, and no, you don't need ActiveSync, or a PC at all of you're using Push-Mail, folders can all be configured via the device -- the same whether you're using XP or Vista. You can also use the ActiveSync replacement on Vista to specify folders, but don't need to.
This is more of a place to post questions after you've read the basic documentation.
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OK smartass, I've already got the Exchange 2003 server and it's set up and working just fine on my phone with push. I just asked how to modify the settings on the PC like I did with ActiveSync in XP. Vista doesn't have ActiveSync anymore, so what do I use to modify the push settings?
Don't they do some sort of a reading comprehension test before people are allowed to become actual members?
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merwin said:
OK smartass, I've already got the Exchange 2003 server and it's set up and working just fine on my phone with push. I just asked how to modify the settings on the PC like I did with ActiveSync in XP. Vista doesn't have ActiveSync anymore, so what do I use to modify the push settings?
Don't they do some sort of a reading comprehension test before people are allowed to become actual members?
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LOL... Good question

chaznet said:
...well... no question is a bad question, but... Have you checked the Microsoft Windows Mobile site for this info? It is pretty basic, and no, you don't need ActiveSync, or a PC at all of you're using Push-Mail, folders can all be configured via the device -- the same whether you're using XP or Vista. You can also use the ActiveSync replacement on Vista to specify folders, but don't need to.
This is more of a place to post questions after you've read the basic documentation.
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Now there's a helpful answer. I was under the impression that this is something that would come standard with the version of Device Center that came with Vista would support this feature, since it's been standard with ActiveSync for a while now.
And on top of that, Windows Update did not suggest that there were any updates.
In any case, the update offered on MS's site is much more friendly. For anyone else who has this problem, the update is here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...89cZ3LWVMCWaF4pcOE196jjPpF3zpomEvPWVSGOVdMQ==

I agree 100% -- should be part of Windows Update. It should all be part of Wndows Update, and having Sync Center and a separate Windows Mobile Device Center is, at best, confusing. It doesn't sound like you've had extensive experience with Push Mail though, as you thought using it fully (specifying which folders to sync) required ActiveSync when you used XP.
merwin said:
Now there's a helpful answer. I was under the impression that this is something that would come standard with the version of Device Center that came with Vista would support this feature, since it's been standard with ActiveSync for a while now.
And on top of that, Windows Update did not suggest that there were any updates.
In any case, the update offered on MS's site is much more friendly. For anyone else who has this problem, the update is here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...89cZ3LWVMCWaF4pcOE196jjPpF3zpomEvPWVSGOVdMQ==
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chaznet said:
I agree 100% -- should be part of Windows Update. It should all be part of Wndows Update, and having Sync Center and a separate Windows Mobile Device Center is, at best, confusing.
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Plus, the download is actually labeled "Windows Mobile Device Center" instead of "Sync Center"

Send to WP7 now has a desktop companion app

The desktop counterpart integrates with explorer and allows you to right click on any file ex docs and pictures and send it to your windows phone! I am not sure how secure the cloud storage is at the moment but this is some nice innovation for a free app.
Read more here: http://wpcentral.com/send-wp7-hits-back-desktop-app
You can compose texts, emails and notes on the desktop and send it to the phone as well. The application utilizes windows 7 jumplists and works almost instantaneously.
I'm impressed.
Cloud is the future. Resistance is futile.

Well, well, well...I guess if Microsoft wasn't going to step in and make SkyDrive play nice on WP7 (access through browser doesn't count if you cannot sync), then someone had to. I like where Send To WP7 is going. It is quite impressive indeed.
It's just a shame that Microsoft, who probably has more data centres than 98% of all corporations in the world, and is in the best position to promote cloud services ( like Windows Live ) is still lagging behind.

I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.

If only you could make a "Send From WP7" app...

The ability to send to other Windows Phones would be nice.

kapanak said:
If only you could make a "Send From WP7" app...
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No APIs to let me do this, unfortunately.
karelj said:
The ability to send to other Windows Phones would be nice.
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I'm not so sure this is practical, you may as well just email a link, right? if you're talking about from the browser, using the bookmarklet for alternate phones is supported in all desktop browsers.

davux, i'm not sure if it's possible as you don't have socket support, but a possible way to get skydrive access to work is to pass windows phone through fiddler and work out what it does when it syncs a onenote note to skydrive. i'm pretty sure this would be socket base meaning you'd be stuck, but if it isn't, you may just have the information required to directly upload to skydrive, with proper credentials and all.
it's just an idea, but this is what i'd try as a developer (yes i am one, but no where near experienced enough at this stage).

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davux, i'm not sure if it's possible as you don't have socket support, but a possible way to get skydrive access to work is to pass windows phone through fiddler and work out what it does when it syncs a onenote note to skydrive. i'm pretty sure this would be socket base meaning you'd be stuck, but if it isn't, you may just have the information required to directly upload to skydrive, with proper credentials and all.
it's just an idea, but this is what i'd try as a developer (yes i am one, but no where near experienced enough at this stage).
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I can actually access SkyDrive via WebDAV already, which is an HTTP protocol. I suspect OneNote sync does something similar, but I haven't checked it out. The primary issue with this approach is that it won't be all that useful. Images and text would transfer well like this, but if you wanted to send a PDF, or Office doc, there would be no way to open it. The only way to open these types of docs is through the browser. I figured a really important use-case is documents, so I decided to take another approach.
BTW - the current build of the desktop app now supports uploading to localhostr.com, serving up files via a local HTTP server, and using your Dropbox account.

davux said:
I can actually access SkyDrive via WebDAV already, which is an HTTP protocol. I suspect OneNote sync does something similar, but I haven't checked it out. The primary issue with this approach is that it won't be all that useful. Images and text would transfer well like this, but if you wanted to send a PDF, or Office doc, there would be no way to open it. The only way to open these types of docs is through the browser. I figured a really important use-case is documents, so I decided to take another approach.
BTW - the current build of the desktop app now supports uploading to localhostr.com, serving up files via a local HTTP server, and using your Dropbox account.
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Thank you for directly conversing with us Dave. I agree getting documents to the phone is the ideal usage of this application. Keep up the good work!

sayonical said:
The desktop counterpart integrates with explorer and allows you to right click on any file ex docs and pictures and send it to your windows phone! I am not sure how secure the cloud storage is at the moment but this is some nice innovation for a free app.
Read more here: http://wpcentral.com/send-wp7-hits-back-desktop-app
You can compose texts, emails and notes on the desktop and send it to the phone as well. The application utilizes windows 7 jumplists and works almost instantaneously.
I'm impressed.
Cloud is the future. Resistance is futile.
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just set it up. The push notifications are instant!!!
davux said:
I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.
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Interesting stuff indeed. I for one, appreciate the work you are doing.

Wait a minute, you can use the Desktop app and upload to phone using your own local network? That is significantly easier to trust than a free cloud service.

kapanak said:
Wait a minute, you can use the Desktop app and upload to phone using your own local network? That is significantly easier to trust than a free cloud service.
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Yes. Unfortunately I can't make it an SSL connection, I'm not willing to pay for a cert. I will see if a test-signed certificate will work, but that is not actually as secure.

davux said:
Yes. Unfortunately I can't make it an SSL connection, I'm not willing to pay for a cert. I will see if a test-signed certificate will work, but that is not actually as secure.
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I've been trying out the desktop app with the local Wi-Fi method, and this seems to me the best way to get stuff to the phone. It's very quick too.
The dropbox integration isworking, and quite well. I'm wondering is there a way in future to upload to a private dropbox share?
Even though it's only an early preview, the dekstop app is great. I like the integration with Windows 7; I have it pinned to my taskbar. Might be useful to have a "Start with Windows" option in there. I'm sure you're aware of some of the bugs like the lack of proper icons in the jumplist Tasks and the filenaming issue that causes PDFs to be unreadable from WP7. To be expected with a preview.
From a UI point of view, I think the "Set Transfer Destination" option should not be in the jumplist and should be in the main config window instead. It's not a menu item you would need ever access to again after you've set your dropbox settings.
The WP7 app itself is also coming along great. I'm wondering if you will split the file list into categories, eg Notes, Links, Images, Files etc. Or failing that, have just "New" and "All" categories? Perhaps, for things like notes, you can Archive them into an Archive category... just an idea. Oh, and when a file is sent via the desktop app at the moment, for example a photo, instead of displaying just as "File", perhaps it could display as "File - {name}"?
Great stuff, getting great use out of this app so far, and its usefulness will explode when copy and paste arrives to WP7 devices. Thanks!

A big thanks to Dave for this excellent tool, it is also nice to see a thread wherevpeoplevare pushing the boundaries of what can be done with wp7 rather than just slanting it off.

wheresmybeaver said:
The dropbox integration isworking, and quite well. I'm wondering is there a way in future to upload to a private dropbox share?
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Not likely, as I've been saying, the phone needs to be able to access a share via the web browser. As far as I know, Dropbox private folders won't do this. That's why I've included an option to mutate the name a bit, so someone can't just guess filenames in your public folder.
The WP7 app itself is also coming along great. I'm wondering if you will split the file list into categories, eg Notes, Links, Images, Files etc. Or failing that, have just "New" and "All" categories? Perhaps, for things like notes, you can Archive them into an Archive category... just an idea. Oh, and when a file is sent via the desktop app at the moment, for example a photo, instead of displaying just as "File", perhaps it could display as "File - {name}"?
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Note that the phone app has absolutely no support for the desktop app at this time, I will bring support for it in an update. Views are likely, I haven't decided what to do yet. I wouldn't expect that update for a couple of weeks though.
adesonic said:
A big thanks to Dave for this excellent tool, it is also nice to see a thread wherevpeoplevare pushing the boundaries of what can be done with wp7 rather than just slanting it off.
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Thanks.

Send to WP7 Desktop
Dave, thanks for this app. It works well so far & I'm sure I'll get a lot of use out of this. One problem though I'm not getting notifications & when I open the app on the phone I get a push notification error. 'Failed to open channel'. Great work mate. Keep it up. Will send a donation when I get a chance.

davux said:
I'm the author of Send to WP7, if you have any other suggestions for ways you can send stuff to your phone, do let me know. I'm open to pretty much anything that's technically possibly without costing me an arm and a leg in infrastructure.
The main complaint in the current implementation is that it uploads to a public hosting site. Live Mesh and SkyDrive don't have suitable APIs for doing this, as I would very much like to tie everything into Windows Live. In order to be useful, the files need to be accessible via an HTTP URL, without requiring a cookie or authentication (HTTP auth may be acceptable, but it needs to be opened in the browser to have access to docs and PDFs.
Also do note that this is a preview quality build, I just figured some people may already want to start using it.
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I can not download it in Germany

weepatc said:
Dave, thanks for this app. It works well so far & I'm sure I'll get a lot of use out of this. One problem though I'm not getting notifications & when I open the app on the phone I get a push notification error. 'Failed to open channel'. Great work mate. Keep it up. Will send a donation when I get a chance.
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I actually have this same problem on my device. I opened the same-named notification channel on a dev build, then I uninstalled that build while it had the channel open - now neither the marketplace build nor new dev builds will open the channel.
I don't know how you got into this situation, but my point is that I don't really know what I can do to help--I'm under the assumption that all I can do to fix my device is to do a master reset (so I'm waiting for the NoDo update). I'm hoping that this bug is fixed in the next update, but I don't know if it's even officially reported.
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I can not download it in Germany
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I've selected all possible countries, which I think includes Germany. I don't think there is anything else I can do for you--maybe I could post a link to the XAP and you could sideload it? My only issue with this is that I'll then have to maintain a secondary distribution channel, and will need to build some kind of updater.

you should be able to post a zune link and it should allow him to access it that way. no need to sideload.

The Zune:// link has always been on my product page.
http://www.daveamenta.com/products/chrome-to-wp7/

Google Tasks for WP7 - Needed?

Hi, I'm the developer of GogTasks for WM6.5 (thread on this site). Do you guys think there is a demand for a similar app for Windows Phone 7?
The reason I ask is that I'm not very familiar with the platform from a user-perspective myself. I've developed one app for it, but I'm not a daily user of a WP7 phone. Are there tasks apps bundled with the phone, and if there is, does it have any integration with a) Outlook or b) Google? (I'm pretty sure the answer is no on b) at least).
Also I believe apps are not allowed to integrate with Outlook on WP7 (the API is blocked for third party developers), so I believe the app will be more of a Google Tasks front end than a sync app. Still I may benefit from the API reverse engineering I did for GogTasks for WM6.5 / Desktop Outlook, but is there a demand for it?
Appreciate all input.

Ohhhh yes, would be a cool addition. I can sync my Outlook Tasks to Google via gSyncIt Addin for Outlook and then comes your app for WP7. At this time there are some ToDo Task Apps available, but no no one with Google Tasks Support.

i second that!!! I used g tasks when i had android but no such luck on WP7

I also missing the feature of google tasks on my wp7!
Unfortunately so far there is no wp7-app for google tasks.

I would also love a good google task app with a nice live tile.
Go for it

Ok thanks for your feedback. Maybe I should go for this, but there is one bump in the road - I just rememebered why I haven't done this before :/ ...Microsoft declined v1.1 of GogTasks for WinMo 6.5 on the marketplace because I use a non-public, non-supported WebService API (Google is about to release an open version of the API soon, but we never know how long that will take). I might try to publish anyway and see what happens.
redman99: What kind of info do you think would be relevant on the tile? Whether or not you have any tasks due today maybe? Or the date of the next due task? What if you have no tasks with due dates? Just a static icon?

This has kind of been done before: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931316
Google supports the Exchange model now and sadly behaves better in this regard than Windows Live Mail/Hotmail. No flagged items, etc is a real PITA.
What you likely have to do with that app is set Google as an Exchange sync, not its normal email type. If Bring the Wine can pass marketplace approval using what I would expect is a somewhat undocumented Exchange API, I would think you could. Especially don't let a single submission keep an idea from being presented because apparently the certification process while rigid can be somewhat of a crap shoot.
Having said all this, Google Tasks do work in the IE browser I believe. They're not perfect but it was a decent stop gap for me. Now I'll try out BtW and if you do release your app, I'd give it a go as well.

w0rd-driven said:
This has kind of been done before: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931316
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Thanks for the hint... i not use Exchange so i still would love a sync app for google task that works without Exchange!
*wink @Nilzor

w0rd-driven said:
This has kind of been done before: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931316
Google supports the Exchange model now and sadly behaves better in this regard than Windows Live Mail/Hotmail. No flagged items, etc is a real PITA.
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I'm pretty sure Google's exchange sync protocol still does NOT support tasks. Have you tried this?

gTasks - Google Task Manager - Just released
An app to use Google Tasks natively on Windows Phone 7 is just released. Check it out by searching for "gTasks" in the marketplace or clicking on the link below.
social.zune.net/redirect?type=phoneApp&id=a56d575c-7253-e011-854c-00237de2db9e

rjonna said:
An app to use Google Tasks natively on Windows Phone 7 is just released. Check it out by searching for "gTasks" in the marketplace or clicking on the link below.
social.zune.net/redirect?type=phoneApp&id=a56d575c-7253-e011-854c-00237de2db9e
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Thanks for the heads up. This probably means there's no point in me going forward with this.
Anyone care to test the app? The irony of being a developer from Norway is that I can sell apps, but not buy or download (yet).

Yes i have tested it. The App works, but it needs some developing on it. there should be a option to automaticly sync the entrys and as a startpage i would prever a list of the avalaible lists, to choose from. after choosing the right list, i would like to load the items for this particular list. i hope its clear what i mean.
btw: there is WIndows Marketplace Tool, where you can download and deploy any app, also when you are not a member of the country. so i can download apps for the us marketplace also, if im a german user. i dont know the name of the program yet, but it is somehwere here in the forum.

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btw: there is WIndows Marketplace Tool, where you can download and deploy any app, also when you are not a member of the country. so i can download apps for the us marketplace also, if im a german user. i dont know the name of the program yet, but it is somehwere here in the forum.
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Cool. I did not know of this.

GooTa - an app for google tasks on windows phone
i also really felt the lack of google tasks on windows phone. i'm a heavy user and really love the nesting of tasks and how lightweight it feels in gmail.
and i didn't think that the gtasks app above me quite fit my needs...-_-
so i tried writing my own! check it out:
windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/49fd8ee0-7a38-426e-b674-7ccff5922333
it's called GooTa (google tasks).
let me know if it's missing anything you want -- there's a feedback link in the app. i hope this fits your needs! and if not, let me know and i can add whatever it's missing so it does

[Q] Opera mobile annoying warning messages.

Hello everybody.
I am using opera mobile 10 beta 3.
I did this:
Guide to Desktop View in Opera Mobile 10 Beta 3
But almost every time have message:
The server's certificate chain is incomplete, and the signer(s) are not registered.
Accept? The certificate for "...some company name" is signed by the unknown Certificate Authority "VerSign, Inc." It is not possible to verify that this is a valid certificate.
Continue? Cancel (buttons).
Have anybody any idea how to get rid of this?
My ROM Jackos EVO. 08/05/2011
Radio 4.49.25.91

I would think you'd only get that for secured/SSL sites where the site owner doesn't have a signed SSL cert from a cert authority. Is that true, or you getting them on non-SSL sites as well?

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I would think you'd only get that for secured/SSL sites where the site owner doesn't have a signed SSL cert from a cert authority. Is that true, or you getting them on non-SSL sites as well?
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I our forum for example , I dont see https before www so I think it's not SSL.
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So first off, isn't there a final version of Opera 10? Why are you still on the beta?
Second, did you try 'regular' desktop view? I guess I'm confused as to why you'd jump thru all those hoops of a custom user agent screen etc when there's already this mode built in...

arrrghhh said:
So first off, isn't there a final version of Opera 10? Why are you still on the beta?
Second, did you try 'regular' desktop view? I guess I'm confused as to why you'd jump thru all those hoops of a custom user agent screen etc when there's already this mode built in...
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Beta was the only version with supporting plug-ins to work (like flash from adobe).
In advanced options is plug-ins to ON or OFF.
Also in settings is option MOBILE VIEW, so I have it OFF.
But some sites like paypal is still switching to mobile view itself.

So i install fresh opera 10 official and still have these messages.

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So i install fresh opera 10 official and still have these messages.
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This is also without those crazy directions, correct? Changing your useragent string can cause all sorts of unforeseen consequences.

LineageOS 14.1 - How to enable Email app for restricted user (for Exchange)?

Hi,
finally I found LineageOS as a suitable OS for the Moto G4 Plus in a work environment, where employees get an restricted user profile. In my test, everything seems to work fine up to now. But the problem is now that I cannot enable the "Email"App for the restricted profiles to connect to the Exchangeserver 2010.
Since k9-Mail does not work with Exchange, it could not work as a replacement.
I read, the reason is that a google account cannot be used in restricted accounts. That is fine. But I don't want to use a google but an exchange account. Does anyone has an idea how to solve this?

risaer said:
Hi, finally I found LineageOS as a suitable OS for the Moto G4 Plus in a work environment, where employees get an restricted user profile. In my test, everything seems to work fine up to now...
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I don't have this device but, your best bet is to post this question within the following Official LineageOS thread for your device.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3522101
If all else fails, and you don't receive any responses from the above thread, you can always try to obtain some member guidance within the following Q&A thread that's specific to your device.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3526598
Good Luck!
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risaer said:
Hi,
finally I found LineageOS as a suitable OS for the Moto G4 Plus in a work environment, where employees get an restricted user profile. In my test, everything seems to work fine up to now. But the problem is now that I cannot enable the "Email"App for the restricted profiles to connect to the Exchangeserver 2010.
Since k9-Mail does not work with Exchange, it could not work as a replacement.
I read, the reason is that a google account cannot be used in restricted accounts. That is fine. But I don't want to use a google but an exchange account. Does anyone has an idea how to solve this?
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So you have gapps installed. Do you really need it in this setup? Without gapps you get the default aosp mail. No Google account on the phone.

Hmm. I suppose it is not a device specific problem, but a general one.
Maybe even a general Nougat one? <-- UPDATE: Stock seems not to have the selection list **
And no. No GAPPs. It is the modified Version with MicroG. Email app is com.android.email (Version 7.1.2). I will try the unmodified version also.
If I go to the user page where I can allow, which apps can be used, more or less every app is listed but (UKW-Radio, Recorder AND E-Mail).
I also tried to move the Email from /system/app to /data/app which only caused force closes.
Maybe another reason could be that by entering exchange data you will be forced to add it as device administrator so it is not in the list?
Any help is apreciated.

I tested several mail-apps now, but either they do not support the Exchange server or they send a lot of data to other obscure servers so I have not found any alternative. I also installed the "Gmail" app (which is also usable with an exchange account) but this also does not appear in the share list and I absolutely do not understand why.

risaer said:
I tested several mail-apps now, but either they do not support the Exchange server or they send a lot of data to other obscure servers so I have not found any alternative. I also installed the "Gmail" app (which is also usable with an exchange account) but this also does not appear in the share list and I absolutely do not understand why.
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Looks like you should install something from Microsoft.

kurtn said:
Looks like you should install something from Microsoft.
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Sorry, if I do not understand if there is a hidden meaning behind this. If this is a serious tip I do not know what app? The android outlook app (which really looks neat) happily transfers AND STORES your account credentials and the content on their servers (see e.g. https://www.pcworld.com/article/288...s-new-outlook-apps-over-privacy-concerns.html , article is from 2015, but I suppose it is still valid. Some time ago I checked it and found out that there is no connection to my but only to some foreign servers). That is not only critical in my sense of privacy but also illegal in the sense of the GPDR. Funny that some people advertise certified Microsoft cloud products for the GPDR.
Nevertheless: Even if I would not use an MS server this would not solve the problem that I cannot select Email or GMail as an allowed app for an restricted user. I also tried the unmodified Lineageos but it has the same issue.
I really do not understand how all the companies work with android phones in working environments. All this fiddeling around just do protect the phones by encrypting the content in case of loss, to give the user restricted access so that they cannot install apps that must not be on the device and to care about privacy. Like on a usual work pc. Do they all use I-Phones?

possible Explaination (?)
(arrg. Always copy your text before you try to send your post) short summary of what I've written:
according to these links my understanding like this:
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/3175031?hl=en and https://android.stackexchange.com/q...restricted-accounts-on-phone-running-lollipop
"Normal user" and "restricted user" is not equivalent to windows "admin" and "restricted user". "restricted users" are not allowed to use accounts so you need to use "normal user" which has some rights less than the owner. All allowed apps has to be installed again (but are just links, no duplicates).
The store and some other apps can be locked with a pattern.
I will test this. If you have further ideas or a suiable management solution for more than 10 phones to hesitate to write.