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Multi Media Codecs for P3300

Hi guys, one week ago i bought the phone and changed my phone from N73 to P3300.But i didn't know Windows Mobile doesn't support alot of Multi MEdia extensions like AVI,MP4 etc so i need you help...
I need a codec named AVC as known as H.264 for my mobile but i couldn't find it anywhere!
Please give me a link which make me able to download this codec or download a Multi Media player for opening this extension.
Thanks

Try the TCMP....
Here ist the Link to its wiki Page:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCPMP
Here is another Link to an "unofficial Version" which includes all codecs supported by TCMP.
http://rapidshare.com/files/66103646/TCPMP_0.81RC.rar.html
(its Freeware)
Just Copy the Folder to your PPC (SD Card or Device) and Run the TCMP.exe
Hope this works for you...
Another useful Link might be...
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=148801&highlight=FlashVideoBundle
You have to sign in to that Forum if you want to use the Link.
Greetings
Jabami

Just thought i'd respond to this because I have the 02 xda orbit and the options for recording video are mpeg4, h.263 and motion jpeg.
So surely if it can record in mpeg4 it can also play mpeg4 ?
Or am I wrong ?

Mpeg4 and MP4 are different...

Best Video Setting for Smooth Video?

Anyone know what is the best setting for smooth video playback when viewing in Touch Pro 2?
I have download the Transformers 2 Trailer in FLV format and playback on my Touch Pro 2 but it seems to be laggy.
Anyone can advise me whether it is the video format problem or the phone memory problem as I have installed many applications.

chongbh said:
Anyone know what is the best setting for smooth video playback when viewing in Touch Pro 2?
I have download the Transformers 2 Trailer in FLV format and playback on my Touch Pro 2 but it seems to be laggy.
Anyone can advise me whether it is the video format problem or the phone memory problem as I have installed many applications.
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Can you give a link to the same video and i will try it ?
elab

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Can you give a link to the same video and i will try it ?
elab
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7InTpNWJ4HQ

Can only get on youtube through my Rhodium at work but isn't that video HD?
It's got a pretty fast processor for a phone but it's still only 533MHz, it can't playback HD content!

I've seen a couple of DivX movies (700MB each) on my TP2 and I have no lag issues...
In fact, I did had that, but back then I was using the player supplied with DivX codecs for Windows Mobile. Once I started using Core Player, the "lag" was gone.
I'll try that YouTube HD video in FLV format and get back to you.
BTW, what player are you using?

Yea i have no issues at all with any video format with coreplayer with the exception of mkvs.

mnico said:
I've seen a couple of DivX movies (700MB each) on my TP2 and I have no lag issues...
In fact, I did had that, but back then I was using the player supplied with DivX codecs for Windows Mobile. Once I started using Core Player, the "lag" was gone.
I'll try that YouTube HD video in FLV format and get back to you.
BTW, what player are you using?
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I am also using Core Player for playing back the above FLV format file.

Sorry for the delay guys, but during my video speed testing , I found that although Core Player is supposed to play MP4 files (so they say), on my TP2 Core Player says "Player: Video codec (AVC aka H.264) not supported by the player!". So it seems that I have no H.264 codecs installed, which is strange because the H.264 codec is quite common on DivX. Well, I guess the movies I've been playing were not H.264 encoded.
This happened because I downloaded (without converting) both Transformers 2 trailers (LowRes and HD) from that link. The LowRes version came in FLV format (4MB), and the HD is a 33MB MP4 file. The FLV plays flawlessly without hiccups or delays.
I'm still searching for H.264 codecs for Windows Mobile, and will report back to this topic after installing and testing the video.

The HTC player will playback mp4's encoded with H.264, so long as they're Standard Definition with stereo audio.

mnico said:
Sorry for the delay guys, but during my video speed testing , I found that although Core Player is supposed to play MP4 files (so they say), on my TP2 Core Player says "Player: Video codec (AVC aka H.264) not supported by the player!". So it seems that I have no H.264 codecs installed, which is strange because the H.264 codec is quite common on DivX. Well, I guess the movies I've been playing were not H.264 encoded.
This happened because I downloaded (without converting) both Transformers 2 trailers (LowRes and HD) from that link. The LowRes version came in FLV format (4MB), and the HD is a 33MB MP4 file. The FLV plays flawlessly without hiccups or delays.
I'm still searching for H.264 codecs for Windows Mobile, and will report back to this topic after installing and testing the video.
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I have download the same file again by copying the Videoplayback file in FLV Format from Internet Explorer Temporary Files Folder, file size is 12.2MB instead of 4MB.
How you can get 4MB and how you download the Low Res file? The playback is a bit jerky and not so smooth but after comparing the original one in YouTube, it is also a bit jerky and not smooth so there is nothing wrong with the Touch Pro 2 Playback as the problem lies on the source itself.

What you wanna do is get Coreplayer.
Encode your videos into Divx with vertical res. of 720 or under and keep the bitrate under 1500kb/s.
Great image quality with approx 112% playback speed.

thedudelasse said:
What you wanna do is get Coreplayer.
Encode your videos into Divx with vertical res. of 720 or under and keep the bitrate under 1500kb/s.
Great image quality with approx 112% playback speed.
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I have used Coreplayer for playback.
Tried encoding "The Black Knight" Movie in the below format :
1) Width x Height (704 x 296)
2) Bit Rate (64kbs)
3) Audio Format (Lame MP3)
4) Frame Rate (23 frames/second)
5) Data Rate (1031 kbs)
6) video Sample Size (24 bit)
7) Video Compression (XVID)
There is some portion of the playback jerky and not smooth, any problem with the above settings?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
You could try downloading that little encoding program.
It encodes your files into the perfect format for HTC Album. The user interface of the program is very easy and it encodes your files so that they play with full resolution and a good bitrate. Hope I could have been of help. All credit goes to it's creator.

chongbh said:
I have download the same file again by copying the Videoplayback file in FLV Format from Internet Explorer Temporary Files Folder, file size is 12.2MB instead of 4MB.
How you can get 4MB and how you download the Low Res file? The playback is a bit jerky and not so smooth but after comparing the original one in YouTube, it is also a bit jerky and not smooth so there is nothing wrong with the Touch Pro 2 Playback as the problem lies on the source itself.
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I used a Firefox addon that "strips" the contents out of the pages (videos, sounds, SWF, ...). It can also be used to convert to other video formats while downloading, but I didn't use this feature as I wanted to test with the real deal.
I double-checked just now, and the smaller file (LowRes) is 4.76MB and it's fully functional and it plays 'till the end. The HD is 33,9MB. Perhaps there's a different file version when you stream directly from the internet... it doesn't make much sense, but I'm just guessing.
I didn't had time to continue searching for the right codecs yet. But I'll give it a go tomorrow. I'm sure I was not the 1st to experience this "issue" and the codecs "should" exist somewhere... so I hope.

Aquila-169 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
You could try downloading that little encoding program.
It encodes your files into the perfect format for HTC Album. The user interface of the program is very easy and it encodes your files so that they play with full resolution and a good bitrate. Hope I could have been of help. All credit goes to it's creator.
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Thanks for your recommendation and I recode the video again, it is much smoother playing over the WMP.
Will use this program to encode future DVD or Video for playback in my Touch Pro 2.

best video convertor

im about to buy core player and a new 8 gig micro card
i want to convert some of my SD and HD movies to use while on holiday
movies are in TS. or vob format at the mo
which is the best way to convert them to play using core player
thanks for any advice
i have tried encoder but the audio is always out of synce
thanks for any help

Try DVDFab

dvdfab is for copying my dvds what i want to do is convert film files i have on my pc into smaller files such as divx or mpeg 4 to play via core player
is there a universal tool to do this
edit found the mobile convertor in it but very limited no options to change res or audio and doesnt seem to work i click next and nothing as though it doesnt see the file types

i was playing with mediacoder last night, seemed to do the job for me. lots of settings as with any codec conversion process and u'll need to experiment to find the best codec/bitrate/resolution combination for you and ur media.
http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/

just got core player
with WMP it plays my mpeg 4 conversion of monster inc no probs
with core player its very stuttery
file details are
Mpeg4
video avc aka h264
codec coreavc
video size
800 x 448
frame rate 25.00
i suppose what im looking for is to be able to convert the file to a format and res that core play will play smoothly
thanks for any advice

Ghostifish said:
i was playing with mediacoder last night, seemed to do the job for me. lots of settings as with any codec conversion process and u'll need to experiment to find the best codec/bitrate/resolution combination for you and ur media.
http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/
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cant get this to run
keep getting msvcr71.dll was not found
download the eg fixer to cure it and says it cant be run on a 64 bit system
any help would be great
thanks

Didn't have a problem with it myself with vista x64.
I already had the Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime library installed and just used the 32bit version of mediacoder and didn't bother with the 64bit addons. Not having experianced the problem you have, I'm not really in a position to offer much more help than that. Sorry
If you keep having trouble with mediacoder, you could try SUPER. I used to use it, but found its UI a bit of a mess.
http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html

I use Visualhub on OSX. It will specifically do H.264 MP4 videos made for iPhone and iPod Touch but you can also specifically set the resolution and the bitrate so you can specifically set for the TP2 screen. I get faster and higher quality video at the iPhone resolution especially since high bitrates choke on the TP2. Couple that with Coreplayer and it's a done deal.

combat goofwing said:
dvdfab is for copying my dvds what i want to do is convert film files i have on my pc into smaller files such as divx or mpeg 4 to play via core player
is there a universal tool to do this
edit found the mobile convertor in it but very limited no options to change res or audio and doesnt seem to work i click next and nothing as though it doesnt see the file types
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Have you picked your source at the top of the screen?
but DVDFab is a shareware so here's a freeware for you
http://www.winnydows.com/page.php?2
more tools through google

With core player go menu/tools/preferences/select page/video
And put video out onto qtv display. Put video quality on high. Smooth zoom on.
Then try your mp4.
I find it best to convert videos to 320 x 194 or 320 x 176
The best video quality I have downloaded. (Trailers) .m4v but I can’t find any program that converts to that format

I've used Total Video Converter which has plenty of options and seems to work fine for me.
Total Video Converter

whtrbt7 said:
I use Visualhub on OSX.
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Visual hub (http://www.techspansion.com/) has been discontinued (sadly enough), but I use it as well. If you can get a copy somewhere, its really useful and piss easy to use. As an alternative i can also recommend Handbrake (http://handbrake.fr/). Its not as easy to use as Visual Hub, but it also produces great results which work very well with Core Player.

Video Converter with Subtitles support

Hey guys i am trying to find the best solution converting my movies and watching them on htc desire. i have the subtitles into srt files (greek language) but i can't convert a movie into mp4 with subtitles playable. i tried the touch hd encoder but they appear with strange letters. with xilisoft there is no good quality.
if there is anyone that can help me with settings on one of the following programs and how to attach subtitles to desire please help me. i have:
xilisoft video converter ultimate
videora for android
total video converter

Handbrake should do the job. http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php

Is it possible to 'hard burn' the srt subtitles in a movie in handbrake? Always thought this is not possible with handbrake..
edit: Check this: http://trac.handbrake.fr/wiki/Subtitles
SRT subtitle import – You can import SRT files into HandBrake through the “Subtitles tab”.
o SRT files are pass-through only. They cannot be burnt into the video.
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So what you could do is to find a converter from srt to Bitmap (VOBSUB), and then use that instead. Because handbrake is able to 'burn' those into the video.
OR! Use a player that supports subtitles... Is there one for Android that works properly?

total converter can add subtitles but i can't find a good setting for size and quality. i think the resolution being 800x480 but with low bitrate gives bad result. anyone with good settings ?

some just cant read properly
HandBrake has two methods of subtitle OUTPUT:
• Hard Burn: This means the subtitles are written on top of the image permanently. They cannot be turned on or off like on the DVD.
• Soft Subtitles: This means the subtitles will appear as separate selectable tracks in your output file. With the correct playback software, you’ll be able to enable / disable these subtitles as required.

Please read my quote from the handbrake wiki and stand corrected. The OP wants .srt subtitles in this movie.
So instead of telling people they cannot read please tell us which app can play soft subtitles.
I already thought of the other solution for handbrake, convert the srt's to bitmaps and then hard burn them.
edit: fast google showed you can convert srt to vobsub using SubtitleCreator. Open srt and then save as vobsub. Then use handbrake to convert and add the subtitles to your movie.
As for total converter, I have no idea. Cranking up the bitrate doesn't work? If space is not an issue that is usually the easiest way of getting better image quality.

I have qouted from the link you provided.

JaykaySLO said:
I have qouted from the link you provided.
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Yes, and that continues stating that you cannot hard burn srt files. I have tried and it's indeed not possible. When you import a .srt file the 'burned in' option is greyed out.
Come on man, telling others to read while not doing that yourself is kinda awkward
My 'solution' doesn't work either. Guess handbrake cannot load external subtitles perhaps? I'm sure it works from a dvd, but so far external subs have not been burned into my movies.

Something else you might try is to download 'mVideoPlayer' from the market. Apparantly that one should be able to use .srt files.
Gave it a quick test and it seems to be working! So perhaps this is a better option than to hard burn those subs into your movies.

lambrospower said:
Hey guys i am trying to find the best solution converting my movies and watching them on htc desire. i have the subtitles into srt files (greek language) but i can't convert a movie into mp4 with subtitles playable. i tried the touch hd encoder but they appear with strange letters. with xilisoft there is no good quality.
if there is anyone that can help me with settings on one of the following programs and how to attach subtitles to desire please help me. i have:
xilisoft video converter ultimate
videora for android
total video converter
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Use Mp4ForHD.

I use FormatFactory http://www.formatoz.com/
It can embed subtitles, has presets for most devices, unfortunately it doesn't support the native (800*480) resolution of the Desire but being an actively developed (and frequently updated) software I expect it to do so soon.

moshbeard said:
Handbrake should do the job.
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Most opensource softare is just benefit from free like handbrake. On the other hand, it is difficult to use for beginner, lack support and weak stability. handbrake attend technology and ignore user experience. I consider many other charge program are better than it.

lambrospower said:
Hey guys i am trying to find the best solution converting my movies and watching them on htc desire. i have the subtitles into srt files (greek language) but i can't convert a movie into mp4 with subtitles playable. i tried the touch hd encoder but they appear with strange letters. with xilisoft there is no good quality.
if there is anyone that can help me with settings on one of the following programs and how to attach subtitles to desire please help me. i have:
xilisoft video converter ultimate
videora for android
total video converter
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so far the most effective combination that has proved in practice: Rock Player + Video Converter. Unfortunately, both programs must be purchased but the fact that real intelligence work perfectly on dezire HD. I recommend everyone to at least try, as both trials.

Try this
Kigo Video Converter Ultimate is a newly released video converter designed specifically for Mac users to convert nearly all sorts of videos into whatever format they want. As a Mac user, this is really a good news for you.
Google this

Total video converter. this program rock's everithing you can do everithing subs, any format, any res. audio, video, customize video , customize subs just everithing

RockPlayer does support subtitles (.srt, don't know about .sub) and it works flawlessly. You can choose color and size of the subtitle in the settings.

Try mVideoPlayer from the market which is currently free...
Convert your video using whichever method you prefer to MP4 / M4V and copy it to your device (I prefer Handbrake).
Either copy your .srt subtitles to the same folder or else mVideoPlayer can search for subtitles for the video and download them - you just choose whether or not to display them.
It works well on my Advent Vega tablet, but I haven't tried the app on my Desire yet as I am waiting for it to come back from repair after a "bouncing down a flight of stairs" incident!

What are good picture settings and average bitrates for movies in handbrake?
320X240? but what about the average bitrate?
Should i use the hardware or software decoding on rockplayer?

I find MX Player Pro is the best option when I dont have time to convert movies with .srt files. It plays all formats and support subtitle files!

You may try this one that helped me before: Asoftech Video Converter

[Q] Playing videos on WildfireS

I have heard WildfireS can play Xvid and Divx movies (.avi files)
Is this true ?

Yes it can but only software decoding mode (I watch them with moboplayer which install a codec pack for this).

cristineagu1978 said:
Yes it can but only software decoding mode (I watch them with moboplayer which install a codec pack for this).
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Hello, I find moboplayer leggy and sound and video out of sync. Can you share your experience.
Is there a way to play video on this phone without problems?

Hi,
what are the properties of the file you are trying to play? what is the codec (divx, xvid, H264...) and the container/file format (avi, wmv, mkv, mp4....)? And also te resolution of the video file.
Real fact:
1. one StarTrek TNG episode (350MB file size); container: avi; resolution: 512x384, codec DIV3 (DivX 3) it plays very smooth with mobo player in hardware decode mode
2. one The Big Bang episode (175MB size); container avi; resolution: 624x352, codec Xvid does not play in hardware decode mode but if you long press on any file you can chose software decoding mode from the meniu and it plays very smooth
3. video in mp4 format (container) with resolution 480x270, codec avc1 (H264/MPEG4 AVC) play very smooth in hardware decoding mode with both moboplayer and system player.
You can find details about video files using a free software (Gspot). Just google for it. Btw is for PC this software.
Cheers

Hello,
So facts:
MPEG4 files are correctly handled by system video player.
I tried moboplayer with 340MB video file in avi container, xvid codec, 720x576.
System player will not start this file, and moboplayer playes it but in slowmotion (video and audio continuously more and more out of sync).
I did not know of this long press mode for software decoding and will try it later.
Thanks.

What is the correct codec pack for Wildfire S?

drgry said:
What is the correct codec pack for Wildfire S?
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I have MoboPlayer Codec for ARM V6VFP installed (moboplayer installed it by itself at first run)
http://www.appbrain.com/app/moboplayer-codec-for-arm-v6vfp/com.clov4r.android.nil.armv6_vfp

drgry said:
Hello,
I tried moboplayer with 340MB video file in avi container, xvid codec, 720x576.
Thanks.
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If still out of sync maybe is the limitations of our wildfire s cpu. I'll try to find some video close to your specs and try. I'll let you know

My personal favourite is Rockplayer, it plays all the files I've tried. Have you tried using a video recoder on your pc to scale down the frame rates and resolution?
This greatly reduces
a) the lag
b) the space require to store them
c) the drain on the battery whilst playing them

Yes, I'm using a video converter on PC (my favorite is splash pro ex) to reduce resolution and bit rate (not frame rate); our cpu can't handle resolution too high (720x*) and high data stream. But let's be serious... the display is too small to watch a movie; maybe the only situation when I consider watching a movie is traveling by train or plane. On the other hand, is gut to know we can play videos