ok so mainly I am concerned because of all the different root methods out there. I am thinking I would like to perform toast's method with damage control rom.. maybe fresh.
should I be concerned that I have already performed the OTA update to 1.47.651.1 or only not to perform OTA updates after rooting?
is toasts method pretty much the best method for full root? how is that simple root?
what would be the best way to perform a back up on a non rooted phone? should I just spend for that backup pro in the market?
can anyone explain kernels to me? what are they for and why would I need a new one? are there specific kernels for specific roms?
thanks in advance
You need one of the OTA root methods since you installed the OTA
thanks
ok, so if I am correct that just leaves simple root? will this root give me nand unlock, or can i go to toast part 2 after this simple root?
Just use unrevoked 3 it is by far the easiest
I thought unrevoked doesn't give you full root.
Regular unrevoked doesn't unrevoked 3 does but you need a computer for it
i recommend using this method with all instructions step by step make sure you read thoroughly and skip to the section for after ota couldnt attach link so copy paste it
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=721055 this is a very informative and will root your phone and provide nand. i cant speak for unrevoked since i never used it
unrevoked 3 seems to have some radio issues or something? can these be fixed with the radio flash like with the simple root? still leaning towards simple root...
thanks pocky, looks like i have some more reading to do
I rooted my phone about a week ago... did unrevoked, simpleroot, and none of that #@#$ worked for me. Literally ran on 3 hours of sleep a few days in a row just trying to do them, and then I came across this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=721055
20 minutes, first try, and boom, rooted, nand unlocked, etc. etc.. It's pretty much the ultimate guide. There are a lot of steps, but, they're all really short and simple. It takes more time to download the files and drivers than it does to root using this method. It's good stuff and I'd highly recommend it.
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I am coming from a Samsung Moment with root, custom recovery, etc and I never had this many problems, what am I doing wrong or not understanding?
1. Why do I need to download or have an adb shell on my computer if I can install connectbot and do commands through the phone?
2.What is the proper method for rooting? My understanding is basically this:
A: Get Phone
B: Do not do the OTA update.
C: Download Toast's root (pc36img.zip)
D: Flash pc36img.zip
E: Done?
3. I can't get wireless tethering working using this method, and I have to download unrevoked's root to get it working.
But then again, is that even a root, or is it just for SU access?
4. How do I get the bug fixes from (1.32.651.6), and still maintain root? I downloaded the sprint ruu_1.32.651.6.exe provided in the forums and enjoyed having my phone not error and fc every 10 minutes, now I hear if I did that I just closed off toast's rooting.
5. Is there like an easy step by step instruction on how to make a custom recovery, nandroid backup, how to check for root, etc?
6. Did I kill my chances of root by installing and using ruu_1.32.651.6.exe?
Great first post.
All is explained in the dev forum.
There is no easy step by step method that I can find, sorry. A lot of threads and instructions assume that you have been using and flashing htc devices for a while. I'm coming from the moment and it's completely different.
I agree, it is confusing. I used toasts method and thought my phone was rooted until I tried Titanium Backup and it told me it couldn't get to root.
I figured I'd just wait til the rooting process is more stable. Sorry, I know this doesn't help
I been waiting forever and not doing any updates due to all the crazy wimax issues. Since the new OTA is rooted would it be safest to update my wimax by running the OTA and re root using the new root method? Please let me know if this isn't the way to go or not. Thanks so much devs for all your hard work. Mod if this is in the wrong section please move.
No, the new root method for the OTA just downgrades everything so you can get access again.
If you haven't done the OTA, I would suggest using the simple root .1 and then flashing something else. The idiot proof guide in the dev subforum is pretty helpful and has a lot of pictures if you prefer that method.
The "How to start over: Fully rooted stock 1.47..." method is very easy and worked great on my phone. As long as you already have root, NAND unlocked, and the Engineering HBOOT, I would go that route. (see thread for the details, Engineering HBOOT 76.2 is the real requirement.)
Yes I have root and nand. Currently running fresh 0.53. I wasn't sure what was the best method of updating the wixmax. Are the current methods out safe yet? Im comfortable in doing the radio. I was just wondering if the OTA updates the wimax differently from just flashing or somehow. Just a little bit worried of running into wimax issues since I do get 4g in my area.
I have an EVO running 1.47.651.1. I used Unrecover3 to root it and have the WiFi tether app working. I don't think this took care of the NAND unlock though.
I'd like to get to a stock 2.2 ROM that's rooted, just to keep wifi tethering working and get some of the Froyo improvements, but don't want to lose camera functionality (3MP vs 8MP), break any of the radios, etc. along the way.
Unrecover3 installed the ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.0.1 recovery ROM, which enabled me to do a nandroid backup of my current environment.
My understanding is that from this point I need to NAND unlock and flash a rooted 2.2 ROM (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Is there a single comprehensive guide that will take me from 1.47.651.1 to 2.2, preserving ROOT, without any fancy ROM hacks other than the minimum required to keep wifi tethering working?
Sorry for the n00b questions; there are a LOT of guides and threads here and I just don't want to follow the wrong one and brick a new $500+ phone.
look into unrevoked forever, i think this might help you, if not then correct me.
Simple Root
I don't know too much about unrevoked. I rooted using Simple Root. It is very easy. I would suggest you reroot using this method, which will give you nand unlocked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720565
After you gain root, you can flash a stock 2.2 ROM (search dev forum) I rooted a long time ago so I'm not sure if the newest version of Simple Root will update your radios (Read the thread/site, it may mention it). Search forums to find the latest radio verions and confirm that yours match.
After your have 2.2, I highly recommend that you flash netarchy's custom kernel, which will fix audio streaming, as well as significantly boost FPS, which will make your phone feel like a new phone. You can find that kernel here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
Good luck.
-Flu
+1 for simpleroot
I highly recommend: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741294. There have been people stating they've been having problems with simple root.
This TUT looks overly simple. If you are unsure about how to get adb working or how to work with it...just reply here or feel free to PM me.
"You will need to have the android sdk installed, as you will need to use the adb tool."
I'm a lost noob looking to do exactly what rjhollan was asking for. I followed your link to that thread but was lost immediately. I've been reading and searching to try and avoid asking dumb questions but I'm lost on this now. Any help appreciated. I was at least quick enough to deactivate OTA updates so I'm at 1.47....
You got Root and NAND unlocked
rjhollan said:
I have an EVO running 1.47.651.1. I used Unrecover3 to root it and have the WiFi tether app working. I don't think this took care of the NAND unlock though.
I'd like to get to a stock 2.2 ROM that's rooted, just to keep wifi tethering working and get some of the Froyo improvements, but don't want to lose camera functionality (3MP vs 8MP), break any of the radios, etc. along the way.
Unrecover3 installed the ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.0.1 recovery ROM, which enabled me to do a nandroid backup of my current environment.
My understanding is that from this point I need to NAND unlock and flash a rooted 2.2 ROM (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Is there a single comprehensive guide that will take me from 1.47.651.1 to 2.2, preserving ROOT, without any fancy ROM hacks other than the minimum required to keep wifi tethering working?
Sorry for the n00b questions; there are a LOT of guides and threads here and I just don't want to follow the wrong one and brick a new $500+ phone.
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Perhaps you used "unrEVOked3" not unrecover3...
unrEVOked3 will give you Root and NAND unlock.
I would suggest doing the unrEVOked forever now.
Look at your ROM Manager and and DOWNLOAD ROM in the program. I would suggest "Fresh".
I have been reading threads non stop for about 4 days now. Great forum.
Quick question about Unrevoked Forever.
Q: If I apply Unrevoked Forever to my Evo and then apply some future Stock, non-rooted OTA (which may have radios, etc) and I loose root because of it, does having the low-level S-OFF from Forever allow me to run Unrevoked32 again and get root back no matter what the stock OTA did?
I am trying to figure out a best practice for myself so that I can apply stock OTA's and then easily re-root WITHOUT having to wipe everything and redo my settings or even use a backup/restore. I like that the stock OTAs don't require that I clear off everything.
Thanks for any help.
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I have been reading threads non stop for about 4 days now. Great forum.
Quick question about Unrevoked Forever.
Q: If I apply Unrevoked Forever to my Evo and then apply some future Stock, non-rooted OTA (which may have radios, etc) and I loose root because of it, does having the low-level S-OFF from Forever allow me to run Unrevoked32 again and get root back no matter what the stock OTA did?
I am trying to figure out a best practice for myself so that I can apply stock OTA's and then easily re-root WITHOUT having to wipe everything and redo my settings or even use a backup/restore. I like that the stock OTAs don't require that I clear off everything.
Thanks for any help.
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There is one thing I dont understand and that is if you root your phone why would you run OTA updates. Someone in XDA will have that update and put it in a form that you can use on your rooted phone. People updating after they root really baffles me... <-----Sorry bout that
Now to answer your question - I believe your best route would be to root your phone with this method here and this way you lose nothing and can just get an update.zip file after an update comes out. The problem is you never know what will change in future updates and a OTA may unroot your phone. Since none of us know for sure thats a risk you will have to take although unrevoked forever is suppose to get around that.
Hello all and thank you in advance for any help or suggestions.
I followed a lifehacker.com guide called the "always up to date" rooting guide.. Which led me to rooting my HTC T-Mobile G2 using the Visionary method via the XDA Post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
The process seemed to be succesfull, I have updated my ROM with Cyanogen's update-cm-7.0.3-vision-signed.zip, which is incredible, and all seems to be working well. My questions are:
1. Should I be looking in to 'undoing' my root with Visionary as it seems to be depreceiated, and if so how would I do that.
2. What will happen when T-Mobile pushes their officail OTA 2.3 update, which should be any time now.
This is a great time to say thanks to all of the dev's and people who put this stuff out there. Thanks!
Well I wouldn't say you used Visionary to root your phone. I followed same method and G-free was used to root your phone. Visionary was just there to give you temp root access. I'd get rid of Visionary at this point as its of no use anymore and could do more harm than good.
As far as unrooting, I wouldn't worry about it too much. The only situation you may wanna consider unrooting is if you run into some hardware issue and need to get a replacement, and even then its not always necessary. The OTA that is forthcoming is something you probably don't want to mess with. It can be found on this site in the untouched form, but it will unroot your phone and bring stronger security, so you would be unable to root your phone again using the method you used or any of the other widely used methods. I'm not sure if rooted phones actually get official OTAs pushed to them. I had a rooted MT3G and got a notification saying an update to Froyo was coming, but it never got pushed out to my handset. (Which was a good thing)
You don't want to accept any OTA updates if your rooted. The best procedure to follow for root would be in the wiki with "rage" and "G-Free" here is a link to the wiki: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
Thanks for the reply's and info, I will definitely not accept any OTA updates, and I feel pretty good with this setup. Now on to exploring some ROM features..
Thanks again.