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Well its official, Evo is getting 2.2 tommorow.
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/evo-4gs-android-2-2-update-starts-trickling-out-tomorrow-loads/
SO my question is...Stock OTA 2.2 or should I root and go for Cyanogenmod?
iball8888 said:
Well its official, Evo is getting 2.2 tommorow.
Source: http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/evo-4gs-android-2-2-update-starts-trickling-out-tomorrow-loads/
SO my question is...Stock OTA 2.2 or should I root and go for Cyanogenmod?
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I'm running CM6 now and I miss Sense, so I am going to install a rooted verison of the 2.2 OTA ASAP. The Evo is doesn't feel like the Evo without Sense, IMO.
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I'm running CM6 now and I miss Sense, so I am going to install a rooted verison of the 2.2 OTA ASAP. The Evo is doesn't feel like the Evo without Sense, IMO.
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wut ! lol CM6 = win
ASOP lacks polish in a few areas. SMS, dialer, contacts, call log.
It's beyond lack of polish really, it's like it was rushed and just thrown in as an after thought.
Sense in those same areas, especially the dialer, is much better.
All personal opinionthough as some people hate sense as much as I dislike ASOP.
You can easily find (often better) replacements for sense functions in the market. just sayin.
MSmith1 said:
You can easily find (often better) replacements for sense functions in the market. just sayin.
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true story
Copy-Paste in Sense, it pwns n00bs
Once the official 2.2 comes out it will make AOSP all that much better. The little bugs that are currently in cm6 will be rather shortly I bet. There are only two features of sence that I like over also...cut and paste and no hassle Facebook sync of contacts with birthdays and calander events.
With the release of the oficial froyo, cyanogen would get better, cyanogen would have everything working...
Remember when roms didnt have everything working, after htc release the source and 1.47 OTA, then in days the roms get everything working...
I got over 1600 in quadrant and 49.6 in linpack using cm6... for me, the root its the way to go...
I think the real question is, are you willing to flash stock 2.2 and lose root, possibly forever?
fr4nk1yn said:
ASOP lacks polish in a few areas. SMS, dialer, contacts, call log.
It's beyond lack of polish really, it's like it was rushed and just thrown in as an after thought.
Sense in those same areas, especially the dialer, is much better.
All personal opinionthough as some people hate sense as much as I dislike ASOP.
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It may lack polish, but Sense looks worn out.
Furthermore, although I agree the Sense dialer is better, the stock messaging app is better than the Sense version. The Sense version has a brief loading screen every time you open a thread, even if there is a single message in the tread. In addition, the stock messaging app shows your friends' gtalk status, which is a great feature.
Honestly, Sense means nothing to me.
Sense for WinMo makes sense...its need because Winmo navigation and such sucks. But Android does most of what Sense does in stock. I don;t see the big the deal about Sense.
Really it just depends on your personal preference. AOSP is great and has its weaknesses... as well as Sense. Try running both ROMs once they are officially released for a couple of days... see which one you like. Each user is different and uses their Evo differently than others... so it just comes down to preference.
Eep...DARN YOU PERSONAL PREFERNCE!!!
I was hoping someone would mention if there are huge bug fixes and more features compared to stock.
iball8888 said:
Eep...DARN YOU PERSONAL PREFERNCE!!!
I was hoping someone would mention if there are huge bug fixes and more features compared to stock.
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You will have alot more features with cyanogen then you will with stock... thats for sure
Yep...your linpack score will go up about 1-2% with cm6. Of course does it really make a difference? Don't know myself, going from baked snack to cm6 and linpack score of 9ish to 40ish didn't make a difference in anything I saw, and I missed Sense (personal preference and all).
The benefit of this forum and all the development here?
cm6 will only be one of many different 2.2 roms you will be able to try out. Have fun trying them all...I did, and I can't wait to try some new ones in the coming days and weeks! And it only takes 5 to 10th minutes to flash a new ROM and restore my titanium backup.
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I love Cyanogen 6, with a few exceptions.
#1 I like Sense widgets, I have looked for replacements on the market, but there is just no replacement. I have liked Rosie since it was leaked on the G1 a year ago.
#2 4G is coming to my area soon, and although I am sure Cyanogen will have fixed it given the next roll out, Froyo + Sense is all I am really after.
#3 In my opinion, its people like Cyanogen, Toast and friends that push HTC/Google to push out these ROMs. Sprint even included their own wireless tether thanks to the community.
#4 With the New advocation of Cellphone Hacking, there will be leaps and bounds with the next ROMs. I suspect that this roll out is just the beginning.
The only thing I would like in my Sense ROM is the Dialer from Cyanogen.
SilverZero said:
I think the real question is, are you willing to flash stock 2.2 and lose root, possibly forever?
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if this idea was possible then NO NEVER.
but..
inconceivable!
CM6 is very good, but lacks here and there because it's based off 2.2 from the Nexus. Even if some of the functions of the Evo were made to work, the code might not be as clean as a native Evo rom. I'm thinking Cyanogen may move all of his *extra* developments for the Evo over to the native 2.2 base. I can't wait to see what he does with it now that he doesn't have to worry so much about making all the stock functions of the Evo work
Sense >>> AOSP, just disable Rosie and use Launcher Pro.
CyanogenMod is still buggy and incomplete so the OTA tomorrow will be a much better at least for a while.
Are there any FULL AOSP (no sense at all) ROMs other than CM6 RC1? I cant stand sense and have been looking all over for a AOSP rom with working 4G and 8mp camera.
Thanks!
I could be wrong, but i think they are waiting on the kernal for the 4G. I think i read that somewhere, but like i said, i could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.
CM6 has 8mp camera working. Has been since day 1. If you think it's not because it doesn't fill up the whole screen, you are mistaken. By default HTC sets it to widescreen, but at that ratio it is actually losing resolution. People need to turn the widescreen off to get the full 8mp. The 6mp (wide) setting in CM6 is comparable to the default stock HTC setting.
EDIT: and no, there isn't any other true AOSP roms besides CM6.
OT: Can someone tell me what AOSP is?
Android open source project
sent with my CM6 N8/2 EVO
Android Open Source Project
edit: Oops, you beat me to it. I should refresh more often before posting i guess
More specifically, it is the absolute base of the Android operating system. It is where all the phone developers start, but then they weave in a bunch of their own custom software. I think the phone manufaturers want to differentiate each other and give them more of a brand (i.e. Sense). It's all fine and dandy, but some people just like to have the true base of the Android system and then choose what apps they clutter it up with instead of it being cluttered up to begin with.
Awesome, thanks for the explanation. AOSP sounds EXACTLY like what I'm looking for as I want to build my own android from the ground up...
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I could be wrong, but i think they are waiting on the kernal for the 4G. I think i read that somewhere, but like i said, i could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.
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Cyanogen is waiting on the kernel for 4G? There are plenty of custom froyo roms with root access and working 4G but none that dont have sense. Am I really the only one who hates sense? I cant believe that every custom froyo rom has sense!
Just download any rom, and run ADW instead. The only thing you're losing is the space on your phone that sense takes up, big deal.
ADW is the launcher used in CM, so if you liked that, you can have your stock froyo and 4g.
Also, it's your phone, and that's why we are here, to make our phones look and perform how we want, but what is it about sense that you hate? I personally think it brings a more human feel to Android. I ran with CM6 for like 5 days, and while it's a great ROM, I just missed the things sense gives you. I actually got better benchmarks on DC 3.5 than CM6 too, even though there is no actual noticible difference between the two performance wise.
A lot of people say that Sense isn't needed since 2.2, but I disagree, it's not just about the functionality, it's about the form too. Sense just plain looks better. It give the phone a more polished feel. Stock android is very Spartan, very cold. Some people like that I guess.
I for one don't like the forced integration of things like facebook in sense. I run a very spartan (to use your terminology) setup... I like clean... Same with my desktop pc. I don't like desktop icons either
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the HTC 4G stack is propriartary. CM is AOSP.
Clearwire released their 4G implementation a few weeks ago. someone is actively working to get it working on the EVO.
we are impatiently waiting for 4G. only ROM's that are Sense based currently have 4G. AOSP will not. perhaps this week
and no...you are FAR from the only one that is happy to be rid of HTC Sense.
What about getting the stock Froyo keyboard? How do we get that on a sense rom?
Some people made 2.1 roms that were sense, but had most of the AOSP apps swapped in and sense replacements removed.
There are a couple kinda like that for 2.2, Android Central has a stripped rom, and FroYo fusion has a senseless version, but I haven't used it or even seen screenshots, so I don't know what it is like.
Avalaunch started on an AOSP 2.1 build, but he kinda scrapped it for his custom Sense stuff.
Right now the CM team is implementing everything from scratch, which is why some things don't work like 4G, and HDMI. No other phones had this before. The reason all the Sense Roms work is because the sense framework has all the parts that are needed.
One nice thing about CM is if you don't install gapps, you can get the source code to every bit of the OS running on your phone.
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Just download any rom, and run ADW instead. The only thing you're losing is the space on your phone that sense takes up, big deal.
ADW is the launcher used in CM, so if you liked that, you can have your stock froyo and 4g.
Also, it's your phone, and that's why we are here, to make our phones look and perform how we want, but what is it about sense that you hate? I personally think it brings a more human feel to Android. I ran with CM6 for like 5 days, and while it's a great ROM, I just missed the things sense gives you. I actually got better benchmarks on DC 3.5 than CM6 too, even though there is no actual noticible difference between the two performance wise.
A lot of people say that Sense isn't needed since 2.2, but I disagree, it's not just about the functionality, it's about the form too. Sense just plain looks better. It give the phone a more polished feel. Stock android is very Spartan, very cold. Some people like that I guess.
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with sense you cant use wii controller
htc limit the capacities of you device i dont know why!!
-limit performance
-limit graphics
-limit bluetooth
limit limit limit!!!
the only thing missing on cm6 is 4g with that it will be perfect
Exchange support is missing from CM 6 also.
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kaokollaa said:
with sense you cant use wii controller
htc limit the capacities of you device i dont know why!!
-limit performance
-limit graphics
-limit bluetooth
limit limit limit!!!
the only thing missing on cm6 is 4g with that it will be perfect
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lulz.....
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I find it frustrating, but they do it because their target audience isn't people like you and me. They use a custom bluetooth stack so they have control over it, it is easier for them to make sure that everyone's expensive headset and car stereo work. They limit performance and graphics to get better battery life and stability. They created Sense to make the interface more appealing to people who would otherwise be turned off by AOSP and buy an iPhone instead (even though Android is WAY better for social networking integration).
I'm kinda bummed we haven't been able to just grab N1 roms and hack them over more often. It's kinda strange. The Aria (Liberty) had an AOSP Legend port within weeks of release. Here we are 2 full months out and we have ROMs based off HTC's work, and CM. That's it.
Antebios said:
Exchange support is missing from CM 6 also.
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Also FM Radio, HDMI output, updating PRL.
Not complaining about the team douche work, but more that we don't have other devs working on AOSP. I don't care much about the missing features, and run CM as my daily. Sometimes I'll flash to a sense ROM to get 4G for tethering to my PC, but this is rare, and nandroid makes it very quick to flash back and forth when needed.
Actually... I thought Exchange support was there but just having issues for some (possibly many) people.
Antebios said:
Exchange support is missing from CM 6 also.
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this is totally wrong. I live on Exchange daily for work. if CM6 were not able to get my exchange email or notify me properly I would be using it. I have been on CM6 since RC1 second day and most of the nightly builds since.
please check your resources before posting such statements.
clamknuckle said:
Just download any rom, and run ADW instead. The only thing you're losing is the space on your phone that sense takes up, big deal.
ADW is the launcher used in CM, so if you liked that, you can have your stock froyo and 4g.
Also, it's your phone, and that's why we are here, to make our phones look and perform how we want
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Youre right about ADW.. I already downloaded that launcher. However, I like the custom themes that come with the non sense ROMs. Such as CM6's music player, or the window pane (if you will) theme for the camera, etc. If you dont know how to program, which i dont, you are somewhat limited with what you can do in terms of customization.
DraginMagik said:
the HTC 4G stack is propriartary. CM is AOSP.
Clearwire released their 4G implementation a few weeks ago. someone is actively working to get it working on the EVO.
we are impatiently waiting for 4G. only ROM's that are Sense based currently have 4G. AOSP will not. perhaps this week
and no...you are FAR from the only one that is happy to be rid of HTC Sense.
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This sounds like GREAT news to me. I hope youre correct. I think im just gonna go back to CM6 for now. It was a great rom and I can only use 4G at work so its not that big of a deal to me. The only other issue I had with CM6 was the inability to split a >160 character text message into two messages.
Can anyone remind me if the 8mp camera was working? I cant remember which kernel cm6 used.
The 8mp camara works. When you click the settings on the right of the screen the settings within the box that pops out scroll. 8mp is selected by defult
Hi all,
I'm a newbie of the Androids world. (and also in HTCs one).
I'm coming from the world of Nokia hacking and modding and here, with all the mods changed, I feel a bit (just not to say totally) lost.
I bought this week a new HTC Desire, I feel very happy and proud of my choice, the AMOLED screen is something superlative.
But, coming to my problem:
I discovered that to join the wifi hotspot in my university i need to set the proxy and other stuff which i can do only with root privilege and other apps, so I decided that is just arrived the time to f**k up the guarantee and install a rom one time for all, at the beginning so i must not reinstall many apps, settings and other stuffs.
I'm searching for a ROM which is the most possible similar to the original Sense FroYo that is now installed on the phone. But at the moment for me I think it's to hard to be able to recognize the differences between two ROMs, so...
Which is better for me to choose in the huge list of post #1 of the "Desire Index - Everything is here" thread?
Obviously it must have the root capabilities, ap2sd and..? (i'm totally ignorant in which are the starter-important mod)
thx for you help and sorry for my poor english..
Piemo said:
Hi all,
I'm a newbie of the Androids world. (and also in HTCs one).
I'm coming from the world of Nokia hacking and modding and here, with all the mods changed, I feel a bit (just not to say totally) lost.
I bought this week a new HTC Desire, I feel very happy and proud of my choice, the AMOLED screen is something superlative.
But, coming to my problem:
I discovered that to join the wifi hotspot in my university i need to set the proxy and other stuff which i can do only with root privilege and other apps, so I decided that is just arrived the time to f**k up the guarantee and install a rom one time for all, at the beginning so i must not reinstall many apps, settings and other stuffs.
I'm searching for a ROM which is the most possible similar to the original Sense FroYo that is now installed on the phone. But at the moment for me I think it's to hard to be able to recognize the differences between two ROMs, so...
Which is better for me to choose in the huge list of post #1 of the "Desire Index - Everything is here" thread?
Obviously it must have the root capabilities, ap2sd and..? (i'm totally ignorant in which are the starter-important mod)
thx for you help and sorry for my poor english..
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LeeDroid! But I'm biased, been using it a couple of months and it rocks, full Sense ROM, A2SD+ (need an ext partition on your SD card for this), themeable, overclockable if you want. I've tried other but nothing has persuaded me to switch.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997
this one is all stock but for the root access, but if you root, why just go for the same as you got?
Invest a few bucks in titanium backup or mybackup pro and rom manager and try some of the top roms like AuraxTSense, LeeDroid, both with Sense as you know it, or Miui and OpenDesire which run alternative launchers.
There is never just flash one rom and be happy once you have set yor foot in here
By far the greatest of all is LeeDorid.Lots of good features and a lot of updates !
Modaco Custom ROM
Should be as good as Leedroid or even better in my opinion ;-)
zambara said:
By far the greatest of all is LeeDorid.Lots of good features and a lot of updates !
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MIUI 10.0.29 is honest to god stunning, its fast, overclockable, excellent batterylife and the whole UI is a nice overhaul. Its clean and everything has been designed for use, the system menu has been re-organized for the better making it easier and clearer to get to all options. They have also done things like add settings to the notification panel, added kintetic scrolling (so things bounce) FM radio re-skinned all major apps. The lockscreen has also been changed to a custom lockscreen which has quick access to phone and messaging, barring that i'd suggest trying DeFrost, he does good builds of CyanogenMod, or Cyanogen Mod 6.1 rc1. Not a huge fan of CM6, its seems as slow as sense roms on my phone. OD and DeFrost dont seem to suffer this issue however.
Mr favourite non-Miui rom is OpenDesire, theyr quick and dont come with bloatware r crap pre-installed, but Adam_g has been absent lately.
For 'sense' builds try leeDroid (imo bloated with tonnes of crap), Modaco Custom Rom (www.desire.modaco.com) or Alex-V sense rom. Theres also AuraxTSense but its hideous. Imo for a good sense rom try a modaco rom with a sense kernel such as vorkKernel, or 'HAVS 2.6.32 for Sense Roms V5' by richardtrip
Jedipottsy said:
MIUI 10.0.29 is honest to god stunning, its fast, overclockable, excellent batterylife and the whole UI is a nice overhaul. Its clean and everything has been designed for use, the system menu has been re-organized for the better making it easier and clearer to get to all options. They have also done things like add settings to the notification panel, added kintetic scrolling (so things bounce) FM radio re-skinned all major apps. The lockscreen has also been changed to a custom lockscreen which has quick access to phone and messaging, barring that i'd suggest trying DeFrost, he does good builds of CyanogenMod, or Cyanogen Mod 6.1 rc1. Not a huge fan of CM6, its seems as slow as sense roms on my phone. OD and DeFrost dont seem to suffer this issue however.
Mr favourite non-Miui rom is OpenDesire, theyr quick and dont come with bloatware r crap pre-installed, but Adam_g has been absent lately.
For 'sense' builds try leeDroid (imo bloated with tonnes of crap), Modaco Custom Rom (www.desire.modaco.com) or Alex-V sense rom. Theres also AuraxTSense but its hideous. Imo for a good sense rom try a modaco rom with a sense kernel such as vorkKernel, or 'HAVS 2.6.32 for Sense Roms V5' by richardtrip
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CyanogenMOD is one of the fastest ROM and the one with the most fixes and updates! Dont say bad things about CyanogenMOD Rom´s !! Without him this Community would be nothing!
Sense or AOSP? Minimalist or Feature-Packed? Depends on your personal needs...
You could start with a rooted stock, after a week try Leedroid/RCmixHD/MIUI and next week CM6.
Or you just get DSIXDA's Kitchen, learn some ADB and Shell Stuff and make your own ROM.
Go for cyanogen to get the best android experience...
This post might fit better in the Desire Q and A and not the Development section mate
this is not a post for the development section, in future please reasd the forum rules before posting
I've tried Leedroid (SENSE) and DeFrost (NON-SENSE).
Both are really good but after some experience I've decided to stick with non sense ROMs. They are by far faster but that eventually comes at the price of some higher battery drain.
DeFrost FTW !
You must be thinking, i'll find the best and most popular one and i wont be flashing again in the next few months/weeks. You're wrong. You come here, you'll be flashing all roms as the clocks ticking.
I have tried all except MIUI and Defrost so far. and am sticking on OpenDesire for the longest AOSP rom and Modaco R8 for the sense ROM.
But my personal choice;
CyanogenMod : Be it Nightly, stable or RC, i love it to the core! Best AOSP rom ever. I tried them all and they are super fast! The reason i didnt use it currently because i waited for the stable 6.1. Hehe~~ Love the nightlies before RC1 got released though.
OpenDesire : The dev(AdamG) used to have minor updates almost everyday but now, very2 long time before an update, meaning it is at the most stable version now. and it is true cuz i didnt believe it at first( I used to use the older versions and it still have some bugs) but now it is the best for me. Best after CM(cant deny CM, they are the master here).
LeeDroid : Well i've tried all Sense roms already, and this seems the most stable and fast(though i found out it become slower over time, my fault for installing so many apps maybe). I used to love NeXTSense by Neo, but when it got changed to AuraxtSense, i jumped to Lee.
I'm sorry for posting in the wrong section, but i wasn't sure where to post in the different areas.
Well, you named different roms, but which are the differences (explained to a nearly-noob)?
I'm searching for something with the same interface of the normale roms, but purified from all the (in)utilities. In fact a clean and fast rom, in which THEN i decide what i like to install and personalize...
If I can make a representation, a roms with no apps which are not native (facebook, twitter, opera and all the others), but with only the things that you nedd as a basis for all the rest.
Lol the op will still have a hard time deciding. XD
The best way for you to choose which Rom to use is to download and test each one individually. Hope you get ORD btw
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I'd like to test them all, but at the moment i'm under exams and for next 5 weeks don't have enough time to test anything.
so I was searching for a direct suggestion explaining what will change and what will not change..
If you want a rooted rom similar to your current one, why don't you just use unrevoked to root your current rom?
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MIUI! or Defrost!
If you want speed, then go for Cyanogenmod 6.1, DeFroST or OpenDesire. If you want a nice UI, too, you have to put a theme on it or use a Rom like RCMixHD, AuraxTSense or smth. like that.
a-ehm...are there ROMs that haven't been named yet? LOL
Piemo said:
I'd like to test them all, but at the moment i'm under exams and for next 5 weeks don't have enough time to test anything.
so I was searching for a direct suggestion explaining what will change and what will not change..
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easy, test it while you go. thats what i did.
Here's my timeline(some are examples);
I'm meeting my girlfriend tomorrow, lets bring LeeDroid! and yeah i did it, i manage to test all features and stability while I'm in the bus travelling from my place to her(took 8 hours in the bus). i screwed up while playing around though, the phone didnt boot so i had to restore nandroid of my modaco R8 back...haha~~
This weekend is examination time(yeah seriously no joke), so last week i flashed OpenDesire. Now i'm still using it. done exploring it in a day though, and keeping it longer than i imagined since i love it.
Presentation week, damn it this week was very busy and i tried Cyanogenmod Nightly 149. Love it. but no themes for it so i flashes CM 6.0.2...but aah too many gallery crash for me so i'm back to OpenDesire.
Well those are my moments, you'll be done exploring in 2 days at max for a rom though. Be sure to test all primary function first before you begin to like them. I did all in a day only. shouldnt be too hard.
Noob evo rooter I installed Fresh since I was told it's a solid rom with lots of bloatware gone.So now i just wanted to see what the differences between diff roms are & figure out which one is right for me but, each rom has thousands of posts & that would be impossible.
Is there somekind of a summary?
thanks in advance!
There is a stickied thread right in the subforum you (wrongly) posted this in.
Not to jump on a "noob" but this shouldn't have been posted and this should've been in Q&A anyways.
At this point, I would recommend MikFroyo v4.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883026
if you are looking for super-fast Sense w/ full functionality. The GB roms are going to be too developmental and buggy for you.
rstuckmaier said:
There is a stickied thread right in the subforum you (wrongly) posted this in.
Not to jump on a "noob" but this shouldn't have been posted and this should've been in Q&A anyways.
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thanks I just looked & maybe i'm not seeing it but it just lists the roms not what's special/different about them???
help a girl out
mitchellvii said:
At this point, I would recommend MikFroyo v4.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883026
if you are looking for super-fast Sense w/ full functionality. The GB roms are going to be too developmental and buggy for you.
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so it's just faster than fresh?
I dont know what I am looking for thats why i wanted to see what exactly each one offers?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=653
It is the FIRST thread.
"Detailed ROM Wiki (developers please update)"
rstuckmaier said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=653
It is the FIRST thread.
"Detailed ROM Wiki (developers please update)"
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I saw it, saw the rom names, versions, release dates, root methods
that isnt my question though, what is the difference between them? advantage of one over the other?
The difference would be how they look. The kernels would be for how they perform.
from my EVO using XDA app.
I seriously doubt someone is going to post all the differences of all the Rom's on here and tell you what each one does best. Every Rom is different on every phone. Sense based Rom offer all options like 4G and HDMI. AOSP Rom's are based on Open Source Android and are not build on HTC Sense and some things don't work in them like 4G, HDMI, video recording, etc...I have flashed many, many Rom's and have read many many threads. The way I learned about them is by reading the OP of the Rom thread to see what all the dev says about the Rom and what's included and what isn't. Then I will go through and read like the last 5-10 pages of the thread to see what kind of problems and/or what people are saying about the Rom. I will also read other pages of the thread if I am interested. I then flash the Rom I am interested in, play with it for a few days and if I don't like it I try something else. For some reason I always come back to CyanogenMod even though HDMI and 4G(stable) are not working yet.
No one can tell you which rom is best for you or your phone. Every person has a different personality and even every EVO is a little bit different about how it reacts to certain kernels and Rom's. Maybe if you tell us what you are looking for in a Rom we could point you in the right direction to certain Rom's that offer what it is you want.
Hey all I'm an epic user who is getting an evo next week and I have a more specific rom choice quetion. Having never owned a sense device but always sort liking the sense clock and lockscreen I was thinking of trying myns rom (don't remember if that is the dev or the rom). However, with not having wimax in my area or the desire to output video through my phone the progress of cm7 seems very tempting.
I suppose what I'm asking is whether or not cm7 is really at the point where it could be a daily driver (and which one to use) and whether or not you can get the real sense clock/lockscreen on it and if not how good performance/battery wise is myns? Thanks in advance!
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kenvan19 said:
Hey all I'm an epic user who is getting an evo next week and I have a more specific rom choice quetion. Having never owned a sense device but always sort liking the sense clock and lockscreen I was thinking of trying myns rom (don't remember if that is the dev or the rom). However, with not having wimax in my area or the desire to output video through my phone the progress of cm7 seems very tempting.
I suppose what I'm asking is whether or not cm7 is really at the point where it could be a daily driver (and which one to use) and whether or not you can get the real sense clock/lockscreen on it and if not how good performance/battery wise is myns? Thanks in advance!
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Don't think you can get the Actual sense clock for CM7, but I use a free widget from the market called Sense Analog Clock which is a skinnable clock that looks a lot like the HTC clock, but not only shows the weather, but can show system info as well like battery %, free sdcard available, free ram, free Rom and Battery Temp. Very nice. As for CM7 being a daily driver, I have been using Lithid's daily compile's of CM7 for a couple weeks now and never had a problem. There are a few quirks and bugs here and there, but for the most part it does what it should and is very fast. Give it a try and if you don't like it flash a Sense Rom. That's the best part of being rooted. You are not stuck with one choice on your phone's OS.
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Don't think you can get the Actual sense clock for CM7, but I use a free widget from the market called Sense Analog Clock which is a skinnable clock that looks a lot like the HTC clock, but not only shows the weather, but can show system info as well like battery %, free sdcard available, free ram, free Rom and Battery Temp. Very nice. As for CM7 being a daily driver, I have been using Lithid's daily compile's of CM7 for a couple weeks now and never had a problem. There are a few quirks and bugs here and there, but for the most part it does what it should and is very fast. Give it a try and if you don't like it flash a Sense Rom. That's the best part of being rooted. You are not stuck with one choice on your phone's OS.
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Oh ya I love flashing. However its a lot easier to try them all when there are just 9ish good ones like on the epic. The evo has just hundreds (or at least it seems so). I suppose that is the benefit to having froyo source. I've used the sense clock from the market as well as beautiful widgets. Thank you so much for your input! I was definitely leaning towards cm7 but
I hadn't found that release. Ill take a gander at it now.
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Noob evo rooter I installed Fresh since I was told it's a solid rom with lots of bloatware gone.So now i just wanted to see what the differences between diff roms are & figure out which one is right for me but, each rom has thousands of posts & that would be impossible.
Is there somekind of a summary?
thanks in advance!
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You don't need to read all the thousands of posts. Just usually the first two or three where the dev describes the rom and the changelog and how to flash.
It's hard to keep a summary up to date. There has been attempts to summarize roms and/or kernels and they all just change too often.
For now, the roms seem to fall into four groups:
SENSE based with full Sense: Myn, Fresh, MikFroyo, Sprint Lovers, Calkulin's Evio
SENSE based but little or no Sense: EvoNonSense, Valpaek, EvoNeo, Burnt Droid
AOSP - 2.2 Android: CM 6.1.2, MIUI
AOSP - 2.3 Android: Gingerbread
It's easier to just browse the development section because there are a lot of ROMs. I just listed the ones I've tried at one point and can remember.
I have spent the last few hours searching all over, just like I do every few months, trying to find a stable ICS or Jellybean ROM with everything actually working. Finally decided to just post and ask for some help. I don't care about beats audio or any other stuff people add in, just plain stock is preferable, but I need wifi, 4g, youtube, and all the camera stuff to work. Are there any ICS or JB ROMs out there where everything works the way it should?
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I have spent the last few hours searching all over, just like I do every few months, trying to find a stable ICS or Jellybean ROM with everything actually working. Finally decided to just post and ask for some help. I don't care about beats audio or any other stuff people add in, just plain stock is preferable, but I need wifi, 4g, youtube, and all the camera stuff to work. Are there any ICS or JB ROMs out there where everything works the way it should?
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*sigh*
There's so much I want to say. But instead, I will say this:
This device is only officially supported through Android 2.3.5 (Gingerbread). Any Android versions past that do not have official drivers, so they would have to be built from scratch, for a device that has been EOL for quite a while. Thus, your statement "where everything works the way it should" doesn't make sense, as the device doesn't officially support running ICS or JB.
That being said, all of the ICS/JB ROMs suffer at the very least the same list of things not working - FFC, 4G, HDMI out, Netflix. Videocam can also be an issue on some. So, based on your criteria, you'll be sticking to Sprint-based Gingerbread Sense ROMs .
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*sigh*
There's so much I want to say. But instead, I will say this:
This device is only officially supported through Android 2.3.5 (Gingerbread). Any Android versions past that do not have official drivers, so they would have to be built from scratch, for a device that has been EOL for quite a while. Thus, your statement "where everything works the way it should" doesn't make sense, as the device doesn't officially support running ICS or JB.
That being said, all of the ICS/JB ROMs suffer at the very least the same list of things not working - FFC, 4G, HDMI out, Netflix. Videocam can also be an issue on some. So, based on your criteria, you'll be sticking to Sprint-based Gingerbread Sense ROMs .
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Not sure why all the sighing and such but thanks for the info. It's hard to tell because it's not always clear what people base a ROM on and it seems like only about half the people posting ROMs list what doesn't work. I was hoping there might be a cynagenmod 9 or 10 for it at some point but it doesn't seem likely.
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Not sure why all the sighing and such but thanks for the info. It's hard to tell because it's not always clear what people base a ROM on and it seems like only about half the people posting ROMs list what doesn't work. I was hoping there might be a cynagenmod 9 or 10 for it at some point but it doesn't seem likely.
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CM9 and CM10 both exist for the supersonic, but development has been discontinued on them. But that doesn't matter anyway; those features I already mentioned still don't work, so they're disqualified from your consideration.
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CM9 and CM10 both exist for the supersonic, but development has been discontinued on them. But that doesn't matter anyway; those features I already mentioned still don't work, so they're disqualified from your consideration.
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They exist but are not finished and only CM7 is listed on the cyanogenmod page under the HTC Evo.
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They exist but are not finished and only CM7 is listed on the cyanogenmod page under the HTC Evo.
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The CM9 and CM10 builds to which I refer are completed ROMs. They're just not officially supported by CyanogenMod. But they're built directly from CM source.
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The CM9 and CM10 builds to which I refer are completed ROMs. They're just not officially supported by CyanogenMod. But they're built directly from CM source.
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To me finished means things work. I mean what makes it finished? Just that you are able to install it on the phone? If that were the case there was a finished version more than a year ago. Obviously cyanogen doesn't think it's finished either otherwise they would make it official.
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To me finished means things work. I mean what makes it finished? Just that you are able to install it on the phone? If that were the case there was a finished version more than a year ago. Obviously cyanogen doesn't think it's finished either otherwise they would make it official.
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That's not what makes a CM build official or not. But I'm not going to bore you with facts you can find via Google. And yes, everything that can/should work work. But there are updates to drivers that can make things work better, or tweaks here and there that can be done. Besides the fact that Google releases updates/patches that need to be included.
Since I answered your original question, I will now digress.
Lol how many times a week are people going to ask about ics and jb builds with everything working, or official HTC releases without looking for themselves first before realizing they don't and wont ever exist. Yes they are finished, they boot, make calls, get data, the only things that dont work on em are 4g and FCC. Just unroot your phone and forget about it, you aren't cut out for this business son.
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^Harsh enough?
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You need to assess just how important some features are to you. If you only have an Evo, and somehow don't have an upgrade on your plan, then you have 2 options.
1: Keep it stock, everything works. No hassle, just poor battery life. Maybe get Superuser and remove the adware/junk if you feel like it.
2: Use a custom ROM which will not have working 4g, FFC, and other features that you won't know they don't work until you go to use them.
Weigh the pros and cons and make a choice, but everyone here so far is correct. The device is EOL and there will most likely never be a working ICS/JB build that has all features working. That would require too much work, for an EOL device.
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I have spent the last few hours searching all over, just like I do every few months, trying to find a stable ICS or Jellybean ROM with everything actually working. Finally decided to just post and ask for some help. I don't care about beats audio or any other stuff people add in, just plain stock is preferable, but I need wifi, 4g, youtube, and all the camera stuff to work. Are there any ICS or JB ROMs out there where everything works the way it should?
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If you must have all radios and hardware of the EVO 4G fully functional, you should stick with a gingerbread ROM v 2.3.5 or later. MikG 3.11 is a Sense based ROM that is well integrated and fully supports all EVO 4G operations. You can download MikG 3.11 at http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?10338-MikG-v3-11-3-9-2012.
As others have indicated, no ICS or Jellybean ROM supports 4G or the FFC. Sadly the necessary work for the hardware drivers is not likely to happen. If you do not require working 4G or FFC, there are a number of fully functional Android 4.0.4 (ICS) or 4.1.2 (Jellybean) ROMs available. I happen to like HALO Series II Nova http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903469&page=33 and AlienMOD Solar Flare Series V http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086163 with the caveat that I am experiencing some tint issues with camera applications in these ROMs.
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If you must have all radios and hardware of the EVO 4G fully functional, you should stick with a gingerbread ROM v 2.3.5 or later. MikG 3.11 is a Sense based ROM that is well integrated and fully supports all EVO 4G operations. You can download MikG 3.11 at http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?10338-MikG-v3-11-3-9-2012.
As others have indicated, no ICS or Jellybean ROM supports 4G or the FFC. Sadly the necessary work for the hardware drivers is not likely to happen. If you do not require working 4G or FFC, there are a number of fully functional Android 4.0.4 (ICS) or 4.1.2 (Jellybean) ROMs available. I happen to like HALO Series II Nova http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903469&page=33 and AlienMOD Solar Flare Series V http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086163 with the caveat that I am experiencing some tint issues with camera applications in these ROMs.
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This thread is almost 3 months old dude
Hey man BobWalker's got some catchin up to do-- there's at least a hundred threads he hasn't necro-bumped yet!
(Just kidding Bob- your posts have actually been pretty solid. Just givin you a hard time..)
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Try jmztaylor's unofficial CM9. It's my daily driver, and it's solid. 4G doesn't work, but Wifi, Youtube, and the camera all work perfectly.