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Sense UI weather: Same as HD2 ?

Hey forum. I'm switching over from my AT&T T9193 HD2 to a Sprint Evo 4G. Yup, new contract n everything. I've done alot of research on the phone. The pro's and con's etc etc... But from watching just about all the videos on youtube, google and bing. I realized that the flip clock on the home page doesn't flip as smooth or as many times as it does on the regular HD2. Also, the weather isn't as prominent on the home page. I didn't see rain drops falling gracefully but i did the windshield wiper in one video going rather choppy, not as smooth as my HD2. The weather would slow down on my HD2 but maybe for 2 seconds, tops. I can't find the video for the rain but I'll upload it as soon as I find it. It would be a such shame to take that away.
Example:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M59rt8RSkD0&feature=related
at 3:08, you see him go into the weather tab or panel w/e, but no sun rays...?!? That was one of my most favorite things on the HD2. It might seem a bit superfluous but i felt like it was a very unique and intuitive way to catch the weather and make use of the huge real-estate on the screen. I like every single thing about this phone comparing to the HD2 except that little problem that would stick out to me like a cold sore.
I don't know if any you guys who already have the Evo can give me some insight. Is it really less eye candy than the HD2 or is it just my deceiving eyes.

The difference here is that Android is completely widget based. You don't get the set number of tabs like Manila on the HD2. Because of the amount of possible variation and things the eye candy on Android sense is significantly lower honestly. After using Desire ROMs on the Nexus and using a HD2 for a while now It's actually somewhat smoother to scroll across the home screens on the HD2 with definitely fancier weather animations. But android allows limitless customization, with any widget you want anywhere.

Thanks for the info. I've never had a android device before, always Windows Mobile. I'm so familiar with the OS, i hope android is just as customizable as Windows. Even though there was a lot of research that had to be done, with every new mod or upgrade, there was never time when I bored with my phone. I hope its the same with the Evo. I really hope they can get full landscape available for android 2.1 and froyo. It can only make the phone better.

I have a Hero, should I buy a Desire?

I have a GSM Hero with Android 1.6 and I'm thinking about buying a Desire with 2.1. I don't like flashing roms because there's always little bugs and things so I just prefer the stock ones. The price I'm getting on the Desire is $600 US brand new. The money isn't really an issue but I'm trying to decide if spending it is justifiable or if I'd just be wasting money on something that's basically the same as what I already have. What do you all think?

here look for your self,
The good: Epic customizability; well-designed home screen widgets with live updates; easy-to-use keyboard; convenient Android Market for apps; multitouch capability; Flash support; 3.5-millimeter headphone jack; Facebook integration.
The bad: Sluggish at times; Flash video is dodgy; no easy way to back up and restore; button and menu overkill.
The bottom line: If you can stand the Hero's occasional sluggishness, it's a fantastic smartphone packed with great features. We like its distinctive looks, and its innovative user interface brings Android much closer to being as fun and good-looking as the iPhone OS, while being far more customizable. Occasional lag and Android's rough edges mean it's not quite an iPhone killer, but it's definitely fighting in the same class.
HTC Desire
Previously known as the HTC Bravo, the Desire is essentially the Nexus One with HTC Sense. The sleek smartphone offers all the same specs as the N1, including a 3.7-inch AMOLED multitouch screen, a 1GHz Snapdragon processor, and Android 2.1, but utilizes HTC's Sense user experience rather than the standard Android skin.
This means you now get access to HTC's widgets, including some new ones like a revamped widget that shows a list view of all your mail instead of just one message. The Agenda widget also now displays your whole agenda on the screen, and like the HTC HD2, you get a weather widget right on the home screen that automatically displays the current conditions based on your location.
There are also some hidden goodies as well. In the browser, you can now do a long-press over some text to bring up a selection bar. This allows you to select a word that you can then look up in the dictionary or in Wikipedia. You can also select a whole paragraph to send to Google Translate to, well, translate. One other notable change is the optical joystick (a One & Co contribution) that replaces the trackball.

That's quite a predicament...
I wouldn't give up on your Hero just yet. It's still very capable and can probably do everything the current crop of devices can.
I would hold out until the next generation of devices. Why? What I'm about to say is known to induce drooling, so be prepared...
Dual-core 1.2 Ghz CPU
How sexy would that be? On a phone!
That being said, I wouldn't mind another Desire owner in the community!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/qualcomm-ships-first-dual-core-snapdragon-chipsets-clocking-1-2g/

ohyeahar said:
That's quite a predicament...
I wouldn't give up on your Hero just yet. It's still very capable and can probably do everything the current crop of devices can.
I would hold out until the next generation of devices. Why? What I'm about to say is known to induce drooling, so be prepared...
Dual-core 1.2 Ghz CPU
How sexy would that be? On a phone!
That being said, I wouldn't mind another Desire owner in the community!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/qualcomm-ships-first-dual-core-snapdragon-chipsets-clocking-1-2g/
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Dual-core 1.2 Ghz CPU Oh i can not wait, hope HTC makes a 4.3 super amoled devices with 1gb ram and 512 nand memory that would be a sweet phone

1. Depends on the price.
2. Hero can now be officially upgraded to 2.1
3. I jumped from a G1 to a Desire. Payed 380 euros for it (unlocked, unbranded). Worth EVERY cent.
* superb screen (large, responsive, high resolution, great colors)
* very (VERY) speedy
* nice looking, great build quality (2 months old, not a single scratch, looks like new, not using any protection)
Bottom line: the Desire is a superb device, probably the best HTC has ever made, but if I had a Hero I would wait for the next one (slide keyboard?!). Problem is we don't know if there would be one this year. Tough decision.

pascanu said:
2. Hero can now be officially upgraded to 2.1
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How do you do that?
I actually just went ahead and bought the Desire, looking forward to receiving it

ohyeahar said:
Dual-core 1.2 Ghz CPU
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I'm afraid that the battery life on this would be a joke

stingerpl said:
I'm afraid that the battery life on this would be a joke
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thats why i think this will be for tablets only but again i rather raw performance over battery life

If you're in the US make sure your network supports the Desire's. Some people have complained as they never checked and they get stuck with 2G only!

I was having a original Hero before my Desire and I must say the Desire is 10000 nicer and feels at least 1000 times as fast!
Much clearer screen, bigger and with that easier to handle it.
Only negative is the battery which is as weak as the hero's.
At the end of the day, I would always change the hero against the desire again

NO! Dont buy it!

I had a Hero as well. And I got a desire. And the desire is much much nicer imho.
The better screen in combination with the speed is well worth the upgrade.
If however, you don't need the speed you can always wait for the next flagship Android device from HTC. And start saving money already
But not for a moment did I ever regret getting the desire after my hero.
My Desire is currently in some 'repairs' because of the pinkish screen (I thought let's just send it to HTC and see what happens), but I'm back at my hero now and really miss the desire!
Oh... how I miss the speed and screen. And how do I NOT miss the trackball that works on its own
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HTC Desire or the Samsung Galaxy S i9000

Hi Guys,
Don't know if I should be posting this here but I'm at a loss, I have in my possession the HTC Desire and the Samsung i9000 both brand new, and I want to keep one and sell the other.
PROBLEM IS I have no clue which to keep and which to sell. Both have their pro's and con's yet I need to make a decisions and...FAST lol as I need the money!
What do you guys reckon? Any help would be needed!
Thanks!
Rolphez

I probably go for the desire as I dont like the iphone lookalike of the samsung galaxy.
And if you need the money you'll probably get more for the samsung as its just released in Australia.

The GPS on the Desire is amazing... where as on the Galaxy S, all I've heard is reports of how bad and useless it is... that made my mind up when I almost bought one

Thanks for the input I'm leaning more towards the desire at the moment yet the screen and sound on the samsung are heaps better
What I mainly don't like about the samsung is the unneeded samsung crap they include in their rom.
The Htc sense is brilliant but I must admit the touch responsiveness is far better on the samsung.
Hard choice!
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rolphez said:
Thanks for the input I'm leaning more towards the desire at the moment yet the screen and sound on the samsung are heaps better
What I mainly don't like about the samsung is the unneeded samsung crap they include in their rom.
The Htc sense is brilliant but I must admit the touch responsiveness is far better on the samsung.
Hard choice!
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You can always root the samsung and remove the crap
Or just use a different launcher...

In videos I saw, Samsung Galaxy's CPU was performing noticeabley better, especially in 3D apps.

The Samsung should have aproximately 3x the 3D performance that the N1 and the Desire has.
Due to the 3D chip they're using.

hard choice indeed, i imagine the galaxy camera is also better, maybe if you remove all the bloatware from the galaxy it will be more responsive
it's also better outdoors?
i think galaxy, but it all depends on your needs, init!
btw i luvs me desire

well, galaxy s got super amoled and better gpu...everything else is same or better on desire. lame UI on samsung and i rly dont believe in samsung updates, after seeing what happened to i7500... imho desire

I have almost the same predicament.
I currently have a HD2 and I was so dissapointed that software wise, it was at the end of it's life. I thought that was a stupid faux-pas on the part of HTC and feel incredibly let down, as a lot of HD2 owners do. It looks like Android isn't ever going to be a viable option on it, and if it were, it would probably be a half-working shell.
So, thanks to O2 Ireland changing pricing in my contract, I was able to get out of my 18 month contract by 16 months on it so I bought a desire. The first thing I noticed, was that sense was nowhere near as polished as on the HD2, but I can live with that.
To cut a long stgory short, the network I was sold the phone on was utterly useless for data (Meteor) so i cancelled that contract, and tried to get the desire on voda. There were none in the shop, but the salesman in carephone warehouse in Ennis, kindly offered to sell me a samsung s i9000 on the proviso, that if if didn't like it, I could take it back and get a desire (as long as I made or received no calls/texts) so I stuck a disabled voda sim in and use it via wifi.
I instantly hated the Galaxy s because of 2 things. The blatent Iphone look, and the cheap plastic build quality of it. I can see that chrome outer edge looking worn in no time at all. Build wise, this is the worst phone i've come across. The battery cover is so thin and flimsy, and it's polished plastic so just inviting scratches and finger marks.
Anyway, 1st impressions aside, The User interface was just awful, But I have to say, that now i've installed launcherpro, and fancy widget I am really enjoying the phone.
I have a few days to choose which one to finally end up with (the Desire, or the Galaxy) and at this point I am torn.
I think what worries me most with the Galaxy, is updates. There will be an update to android 2.2 sometime in the far future, but I've heard others say thats the end of the official road. That in itself doesn't bother me, as long as newer versions of droid can be put on it. I think thats where most peoples concerns with this phone are. The desire has a company behind it with a better (but not always in the case of the HD2 and a few others) track record of updates, and there is a much larger community of cooks and enthusiasts for the desire.
The info out there at the moment on the Galaxy is sketchy. I've read people talking about how any cooked rom is only made from an official rom. Does that mean that when droid 3 comes out, that this phone is left behind? Does the same stand for the Desire?
Sorry for the long post.
Dave
PS. I just remembered my other MAJOR grievance with the Galaxy s. You have to use Samsungs proprietary software to access the phone via your computer. On the Desire, I just plugged it in, and could instantly see the sdcard. Not tried it with linux, but I suspect the galaxy won't be seen. Think I just made my mind up... Or maybe not.. Aargh

Thank you all for the replies, and I don't mind the long replies Dave, it's always best to hear such experiences as it helps me make a decision.
Here are my Pro's and Con's of both devices:
Starting with the Cosmetics:
1. The Build Quality of the Desire is by Far better than the I9000 - the i9000 feels like a toy rather than a phone.
2. The Desire looks much better than the Samsung i9000 - The whole reason I moved to Android is to forget the much hated (hatred is a personal opinion) iPhone look I don't want to be reminded by it again!
3. The Samsung i9000 is lighter than the Desire and although I actually didn't mind the lighter weight, my hand preferred to feel something solid rather than a piece of plastic. (I have to admit the HTC legend is my preferred phone as far as solid design is concerned!)
4. Samsung has a bigger screen than the Desire, and it's definitely brighter or cripier with it's Super AMOLED but pixel count is the same, and the 3.7" is more than enough in the Desire.
Moving on to other stuff...
5. I played some nice 3D games on the Samsung and I must admit for those who are into gaming, it's brilliant, I don't really care about such games i'm more into word games and stuff which the Desire manages to perform just fine in running them.
6. Using Swype input on the Samsung is much better than the desire, although I did manage to install Swype on the Desire and it works fine, but Samsung is more responsive it was just a pleasure to type on it.
7. Samsung's rubbish crap software on it is annoying and I seriously can't be bother rooting and installing custom Roms on it, I'd rather do it on the Desire - simpler and have a bigger variety of ROMS and updates...
8. I think I just convinced myself - Desire it is! LOL But i'll continue a little, GPS works much better on the Desire...
9. HTC is a much better mobile phone company for android systems (my opinion anyway)
10. Sound is better on Samsung than on Desire.
11. Samsung gives you 2GB space to install your apps on Desire gives you on 512MB but I believe this hurdle can be easily passed through A2SD.
12. Samsung comes with 16 GB Storage...which, though it's a good thing, yet you can buy a 16 GB micro SD for the Desire...Problem solved
Yea, the list can continue, but these are my thoughts...it is a hard decision to make...but i think weighing the pro's and con's...Desire beats the Samsung despite it being inferior with some of the hardware specs, I'm sure HTC will release something soon to match or surpass Samsung...

btw, just a lil question...how better is sound on galaxy s? i got desire, but i got no samsung to compare them
just curious, since im mainly using phone(other than phoning ^^) as mp3 player

For me, The perfect Android phone would be the HD2. I am appaled they wasted such a superb device on a dead OS. To double the insult, they will not offer a WM7 update path (I realise that's down to M$ but thats no damned excuse to someone who bought it thinking it would be future proof for a year or 2)
I love the size of the HD2's screen (but hate the touch input, it's very poor), thats why I was drawn to the Galaxy S. The screen is simply superb. Even using the stock droid keypad, the experience is much better than the HD2 and Desire combined. It is a pleasure to use the keypad, and swype performs really well. The desire by comparison is dull and boring. The colours don't jump out at you, and it's impossible to use in daylight.
I read all your pro's and con's and can only agree with you (apart from the sound, as I haven't compared them. I don't bother with mp3's etc.)
I think I am definately leaning more towards the Desire at this point. Technically it isn't as good. The screen is poor when compared against the Galaxy S. The buttons are clunky and unintuitive (The touch sensitive buttons on the Galaxy S are it's best feature IMHO), and the power button positioning is a pain in the the you know what! But it is likely to be much better supported by the community, and the company and thats important to me, as I fully intend to get back into developing again. The Galaxy S's onboard storage of 8 or 16GB is a major plus, but as you said a Micro SD card fixes that (although slower).
I'm going to investigate the rom cooking side of the Galaxy S now to to finally make my mind up. I saw a thread asking for £9.95 to access an online kitchen, but I thought that was against the principals of the community. Can't stand people trying to make money out of other peoples knowledge. If thats the kind of thing to expect from the average Galaxy S developer, then HTC it is

I decided on the Desire as it was voted and chosen by multiple sites best mobile phone of last year. Also got an HD2 just because it looked fantastic and will probably be the last wm6.5 phone - lots of apps I like still not on Android.
It's simply a fantastic phone with great community support. Owning it 2 weeks I've already rooted it, got apps2sd+, froyo (defrost), now froyo with sense (djdroid)...
I loved the HD2 when it worked, it went back to HTC for a no quibbles change of motherboard as it was constantly rebooting. My experience with Samsung customer service and support has not been great I must say (have an Omnia). Battery was never satisfactory, gps fix terrible, TomTom was not working first 6 months as Samsung's gps implementation was plain bad...
A friend got the Samsung, waiting him to break it so I can say 'told you so'...
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I decided on the Desire too. The GPS on the Galaxy was unuseable. It's a great device, but I think i'm going to get much more mileage out of the desire. So took it back today, and got a shiny new desire.

dave wroe said:
...The Galaxy S's onboard storage of 8 or 16GB is a major plus, but as you said a Micro SD card fixes that (although slower).
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Not to mention, 32GB MicroSD's soon to be coming down in price! And performance wise, I doubt you will be able to notice a difference on a decent class.
Think you chose the better deal with the Desire, just for the overall quality it gives you, even in its relatively small stature... I wanted the Evo, it's not in the UK, the Desire is a perfect stepping stone till we get 4G, although a stepping stone as is any phone.

I think Desire it is for now, until HTC release a new better device...until then I don't think the Samung i9000 is worth it (even with all it's pro's)...I have a brand new one with me for sale...anyone interested?!

Unless you really use the 3D chip from the Galaxy S I would go for the Desire. Samsung's phone quality is rubbish, the Galaxy is no exception.
As said the GPS is very poor, while the Desire's is very good. The processor itself isn't much better than the Desire's. And if you get even one update on the Galaxy you should be happy.
The SUPER AMOLED is a bit nicer but that's mainly because the Desire has a relatively cheap AMOLED screen. It won't help you much in direct sunlight although they claim it will.
The resolution is the same and personally I think 3,7" is a better phone size than 4".

I agree with you on that one...

One thing struck me from using the Galaxy S is the screen quality and touch responsiveness compared to the desire. The Galaxy S pisses over the desire in this department. Add the better Camera and camcorder and I was actually thinking of moving from the desire to the Galaxy. I use the phone for a lot for navigation duties so to hear that the GPS is lacking is a real shame. Is it a hardware problem or something that can be fixed by an update that it will probably not receive by the sounds of things?

Trading Desire for Galaxy S - good deal?

I already posted in the marketplace, but I wanted to hear your opinions, current Desire owners. I've been really worried with this device lately, mostly because of the hardware limitations it has. It costs almost the same as the SGS but it has a very weak GPU for today's high-end smartphone standards, it doesn't have a real multitouch (and I was shocked and felt scammed by HTC when I found out, I can't even play some modern shooters). The screen on the SGS is way much better (super amoled and bigger screen, my Desire has SLCD, enough said). I also have very limited internal memory and most Sense updates aren't supported because of this, I'm sick of app2sd or data2sd scripts that slow down the phone (don't tell me it doesn't, cause it does, class 6 card and I'm still getting lags when installing or deleting apps).
What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM).
I'm also wondering if samsung will have an official update for gingerbread on their galaxy S, it would be a deal breaker if they wouldn't release it
Overall I feel pretty scammed with this device. Like I said, I payed a lot of money when it came out to find out that it doesn't even have multitouch, wth?
You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?

Love HTC Desire
Nope and what games are you talking about?
I think the most graphic intensive game i have on my Desire is PES 2011?
How many apps do you actually need?
I love the extensive support for HTC Desire here at XDA.
Running MIUI rom on a class 2 sd card and yes I get the occasional lag which probably means some apps didn't close properly.
My Desire has the AMOLED screen.

friedkimchi said:
Nope and what games are you talking about?
I think the most graphic intensive game i have on my Desire is PES 2011?
How many apps do you actually need?
I love the extensive support for HTC Desire here at XDA.
Running MIUI rom on a class 2 sd card and yes I get the occasional lag which probably means some apps didn't close properly.
My Desire has the AMOLED screen.
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Shooters like nova or modern combat don't work properly because Desire doesn't have true multitouch screen. Aside from that, some gpu intensive games don't run smooth.

If you need your phone for games, go for the sgs, I believe user experience is much more than simple specs though and that's why I went for the desire.
I think a whole new desire or other gsm smartphone line will be released soon after the evo 3d

If you still have Desire in your hand, I say, can you wait for some time?
At least until Samsung Galaxy S2 or any other new Android phones from the next generation, those with dual cores proc, are already in the market.
I know Galaxy S or Desire HD is better than Desire but it is not really a major improvement (in my opinion).

Thing is, I don't have much money to spend. If I would be getting a newer phone I would definitely get the Desire HD or something, but SGS is close to price on second-hand and it would be an easy trade. My next phone will be bought next year, I get a new one every 2 years. I was just thinking to this exchange atm. The lack of a true multitouch is really pissing me off.

lvnatic said:
Thing is, I don't have much money to spend. If I would be getting a newer phone I would definitely get the Desire HD or something, but SGS is close to price on second-hand and it would be an easy trade. My next phone will be bought next year, I get a new one every 2 years. I was just thinking to this exchange atm. The lack of a true multitouch is really pissing me off.
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Hmmm...if you aren't really in need of having a new phone, I think Desire can still serve you well until next year..but..if you can get a good price for a second hand Galaxy S or Desire HD and also if you can get a good price for your current Desire..well...it is also not a bad idea...

lvnatic said:
What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM)
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My mate's got a Galaxy S and it does feel flimsy when held next to my Desire. It's really light in comparison and although some could argue in it's favour, personally it just doesn't feel like it has the same build quality. I'd worry if it was dropped but then that's nothing a good case wouldn't fix I suppose.
The screen isn't noticeably better in normal use but I've got an AMOLED Desire, I haven't seen an LCD to compare to.
The lack of Sense and Sense widgets is really apparent and if, like you said, you don't like non-sense Roms then it could be an issue. This is still Android though of course so with a little patience you could still customise with apps that give a similar appearance if not quite exactly the same experience.
All being said, it is a nice piece of kit and it is better in graphic intensive games. There's no denying it's value for money. It would take quite a bit more to persuade me to swap my Desire for it though.

lvnatic said:
You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?
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No. I've used samsung I5700 recently, a much cheaper phone, but I have enough of samsung for a while I already can tell that I don't really like sense and will switch to CM. I hate glossy plastic . Instead of app2sd I will use link2sd with custom hboot.
I imagine if not samsung someone will port gingerbread to i9000 and if you want good MT you probably need to switch anyway

lvnatic said:
I already posted in the marketplace, but I wanted to hear your opinions, current Desire owners. I've been really worried with this device lately, mostly because of the hardware limitations it has. It costs almost the same as the SGS but it has a very weak GPU for today's high-end smartphone standards, it doesn't have a real multitouch (and I was shocked and felt scammed by HTC when I found out, I can't even play some modern shooters). The screen on the SGS is way much better (super amoled and bigger screen, my Desire has SLCD, enough said). I also have very limited internal memory and most Sense updates aren't supported because of this, I'm sick of app2sd or data2sd scripts that slow down the phone (don't tell me it doesn't, cause it does, class 6 card and I'm still getting lags when installing or deleting apps).
What I'm worried about on this trade, is the build quality on the samsung (I heard its kinda crappy), the sense UI (I will probably miss it, I tried several non-sense ROMs on and rolled back to Sense after a day or two), the missing camera flash (it's ok tho...) and I heard there are some issues with the GPS (which may be fixed with a custom ROM).
I'm also wondering if samsung will have an official update for gingerbread on their galaxy S, it would be a deal breaker if they wouldn't release it
Overall I feel pretty scammed with this device. Like I said, I payed a lot of money when it came out to find out that it doesn't even have multitouch, wth?
You, as Desire owners, would you trade your phone for a galaxy S?
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i had a sgs fascinate and i hated it. yes the gpu is better and its noticable but the touchwiz ui sucks. plus super amoled kills sucks your battery life quickly. with 3 hours screen on, youll b at 20%. plus flashing custom roms and stuff can b a chore. odin is alot more tricky to play with then your providers ruu. id suggest the desire hd or wait 4 the desire s. there r things i miss about my sgs. but im happy with my desire. sense ui cannot b beat. 10minutes with touch wiz and youll understand what i mean

The GPS chip on the SGS is utterly ****. No two ways about it and no fix for it as it's a hardware design fault. Can't be used for driving navigation as it's only accurate to about 50-100m when moving.
If nav is important to you then don't do it.

I don't know why you're having trouble with the Desire, just flash a new ROM and be done with it. If you can't be bothered, get the crappy DHD or the SGS.

Good deal? No period...
But then again I'm sure if you ask on SGS forum they'll tell you otherwise... I wouldn't change my desire for anything on the market right now...
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If the performanc eof the desire is not enough just buy a class 10 microsd card of over 8gb and you will see a big difference in operating speed with any custom roms.

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can i trade my galaxy s i9000 w/ miui 2.3.3. rc3 for your desire

debateable?
Ihave the desire and my wife has the galaxy s,i do actually like the s,but more for its screen size not hardware or os. sense is a bonus for a phone i find,but its your preference,im running insertcoin 2.0.0 a2sd at the moment,roms,really do extend your love of a phone. Though roms are out for the galaxy...
but end of the day..................MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND?

Afaik the sgs is basically a desire with a better gpu and a bit newer cpu. If you don't care too much about games you should go for the desire since it has better software, better build quality, better support and last but not least better devs here on xda

[Q] One X Lag issues

Hey All,
After drooling and patiently waiting since the start of the year, I finally have the oppurtunity to test out the One X during its launch here in Malaysia sometime last week. I didn't want to believe it at first, but there is definitely noticeable lag when playing around with the phone(scrolling through the home screens and playing RIP TIDE). Battery was full. It definitely feels slower than my HTC Sensation XE. This is kind of a deal breaker for me. There are some sites like techradar and pocketnow.com that acknowledges the lag and even androidforums which has a thread addressing the lag issues. ( I can't post the link here but you can google it and find it in the first few results )
To my understanding, the reason for the lag is that most apps aren't coded to utilise the 4cores. What is the point of buying a premium priced quadcore phone when all I'm getting in return is limitations? If I'm wrong please correct me, as I am very dissapointed and for now undecided whether to get the One X or not.
What are your thoughts?
Thanks all.

My phone seems really smooth to me, especially after changing the launcher to nova launcher.

Noticed the same thing. Quite strange considering everything looks more slimline compared to Sense 3.6 which runs flawless on the Sensation.

ckck_92 said:
Hey All,
After drooling and patiently waiting since the start of the year, I finally have the oppurtunity to test out the One X during its launch here in Malaysia sometime last week. I didn't want to believe it at first, but there is definitely noticeable lag when playing around with the phone(scrolling through the home screens and playing RIP TIDE). Battery was full. It definitely feels slower than my HTC Sensation XE. This is kind of a deal breaker for me. There are some sites like techradar and pocketnow.com that acknowledges the lag and even androidforums which has a thread addressing the lag issues. ( I can't post the link here but you can google it and find it in the first few results )
To my understanding, the reason for the lag is that most apps aren't coded to utilise the 4cores. What is the point of buying a premium priced quadcore phone when all I'm getting in return is limitations? If I'm wrong please correct me, as I am very dissapointed and for now undecided whether to get the One X or not.
What are your thoughts?
Thanks all.
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Well......I didn't use it, but I didn't really think it would lag in general usage and opening apps, scrolling, etc...browser lag seems to be software side as most of the early bugs are.
Yes, barely anything is coded for 4-cores besides a few benchmarks and certain Tegra Zone games. IMO the quad-core is more of a marketing push as being the first quad-core SoC etc....no real huge benefits. The low power companion core of Tegra 3 doesn't seem to do much either besides being used when screen is off or maybe playing a movie.
You can wait for the XL with S4 krait, which is a better chipset IMO all around in general. Newer architecture, newer cores, less heat, less energy, and performs better than Tegra 3 in some benchmarks while also losing in some, so they trade some blows. But Krait is generally the better SoC for everyday use and will be faster in general IMO.
It probably won't have the same dev support though as the One X, it's your choice on what you want.
I personally don't think Tegra 3 is that good of an SoC compared to Krait and what has even yet to come very soon. It probably performs the same as the Sensation when the extra 2 cores aren't being used because it's running 4 Cortex-A9 cores which are the same exact cores found in most of last years phones, just that theres 2 more haha
My opinion would be to get the XL or wait till other phones start dropping, then make a choice.

Well, even single core phone should be able to handle everything smoothly if its software is done good for it and it's pretty obvious that Htc One X has slightly unfinished software so it could been released early, before Samsung, LG, Huawei, etc... Software can be later optimised for the device with upcoming updates.

I think its more sense needs tweaking tbh, when you put nova launcher on which practically makes it very similar to to stock ICS its buttery smooth even going in and out app draw and scrolling widgets, my GN wasn't as smooth in that situation.

Yeah I agree. Coming from a SGS2 the HTC OneX does have lag issues when scrolling through homescreens, going in and out of app launcher and especially when going into the multitasking menu.
Though i feel like Sense is to blame here.
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browser lag is caused by HTC swipe 3 finger mode, disable for full speed browser
launcher lag is caused by two factors, performance scaling with battery level and android memfree/priority values, they are flowed in ICS and HTC didn't seem to have tweaked them
easy to fix if you have root using the supercharger, it prevents apps pilling up in the background and conflicting in priority
my single core 2 years old snapdargon 2 Desire HD runs Sense @ a brisk locked 60fps thanks to supercharger
there is also the matter of ultra smooth rosie (flattening the Sense launcher 3D widgets) but i don't think the GPU on Tegra3 will need this
so yes most likely supercharger, sorry to break it to you but apparently we still need to root with an HTC device