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Total noob ? on the root. Please help.

I have come over from Window Mobile like most and when I come to the Andriod forums, this is like learning Chinese on the fly with all the lingo. I was able to get my Imagio doing all I wanted, but this root thing sounds crazy.
So, way before I get into this root, I have a couple of questions.
1. If i root, will everything work as it does if it is stock. I know there is some things added, like tethering, but can I run all the apps I have bought on the market and do I have to pay for them again or just re-download.
2. I have seen the ten min vidoe on root, but he goes way too fast for me and I find myself watching the vidoe four hundred times just to get through the first minute. Where does someone get the files he is cutting and pasting onto the computer? Are those part of the files that come with the HTC sync or do you have to download them?
Sorry for the questions, but I would love to have the wifi-tethering like most but can't afford to screw this phone up. Since being part of the XDA adn PPCgeeks, I have had all questions answered and I have been able to get where I need to be on my phone without having to sell any of my guns to make up for buying a broken phone!
Thanks, in advance.

1. yes, everything will work fine
2. read the sticky in this sub-forum for rooting

Having root won't affect anything at all with your apps or contacts. Phone will be exactly the same with the addition of superuser priviledges (as long as you follow all the directions in the 10 min video.
All the files you need are in the file that is linked in the info pane of the 10 minute root video on youtube.
Make sure you follow the directions and you will be fine. Goodluck.

Google will remember your download history and purchases as long as you link up your gmail.

As always, thanks guys. Being a police officer, sometimes we have to do some long sitting details for security purposes and having a phone that can tether to the lap top while sitting in the car is a must! You guys rock.

Phone back on and off??????

ok recently when im using my evo, and i do some multitasking, the freaking phone keeps turning off and restarts itself, at the beggining i thought ok maybe it frost or something, but now every other day im using it and im in the internet and facebook and other apps, it freezes for a bit and restarts itself. which is annnnoyyyying me cuz i loose everything i was doinggggg....ANY SOLUTIONS WHATS THE PROBLEM, IS IT THE PHONE???

Are u rooted.... if u are have u tried other roms with multiple wipes before the flash? Also my old evo did that after i rooted it and i could not find a fix but luckily i broke the screen an got a new one that dosent have that issue!
i forgot to ask are u saying a full reboot or just to the boot screen?

My first guess would be that you deleted something that the system needs to run. I believe you cannot delete friendstream, calender, etc some stupid apps that you might believe are completely useless but somehow HTC integrated them into the system as necessary system files.
Also did you fiddle with your SetCPU or kernals? Using setcpu to alter your CPU frequency can result in system crashes and different kernals have different set vcores. If the vcore is too low for your chip it does not have enough juice to operate properly and therefore crashes.
If you are stock then I'm not sure what it could be...

no this phone is not rooted (itz cuz i dont know how too lol), and its exactly how it came when i first got it,
the only things im running is
launcher pro plus as my default launcher. and just normal widgets like fancy widget and custom icons nothing major.
everything works perfect, but it keeps restart itself after a do alot of multitasking, cuz usually a app will get the "Force close" when its not working but for me it just freezes and restart itself , it goes to the "Sprint logo & 4g start up" just like how it would do when you first start your phone, the only thing is doesnt do is that it doesnt shot the HTC EVO 4G IN THE BEGGINING, JUST THE SPRINT AND 4G LOGO, than everything reloads itself on the screen.

and it was like this before u switched to the new launcher?

Interesting... Have you scanned your phone for any malware? Perhaps there is something there that should not be.
Here is what I would do:
Factory reset and run the phone stock without any apps for a day. If you still have issues - switch phones ASAP.
If you do not have issues after the reset, start installing one app at a time till you find the one that is buggy.
Hope this helps.

lgevo said:
and it was like this before u switched to the new launcher?
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yes, i install and uninstall the launcher and did a factory reset to the phone and it still the same way.. just seeing if other ppl have had this problem, if its the phone itself or the sprint service connection.

I'm really surprised your phone is not rooted. I was going to guess you were OC'd just a little too high. My Dad had similar problems with his unrooted EVO before the 2.2 update. I never narrowed it down but I think it was a problem with Beautiful Widgets. I loaded a bunch of non-root apps on his phone (LP, handcent, BW, etc.), trying to set him up, and he was plagued with reboots so he wiped it all and went back to 100% stock. I still can't convince him to root.

aalopez10 said:
yes, i install and uninstall the launcher and did a factory reset to the phone and it still the same way.. just seeing if other ppl have had this problem, if its the phone itself or the sprint service connection.
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Its a combination of things really.
1) HTC is not known for having the best build quality. Motorola, for example, is light years ahead.
2) The Android marketplace is not regulated like the Appstore. You will frequently get force closed apps because 1) Apps are regulated by the devs, not Google and 2) there is just a huge abundance of Android phones with many differences between them.
Your phone should not be resetting itself. A force close is different than a reboot. I would call HTC/Sprint and ask for a different phone. Might want to add the fact that none of your friends Evos do this so it is singled out to yours specifically.

thanks, i might just do that but all sprint ever freaking does is that they gonna do a reset of the phone and i already did that, I KNOW WHAT IM DOING WITH MY PHONE,
and it would be nice to learn how to root, cuz i been thinking of doing for a whileeee after 2.2 update...and see if i can fix this problem.

aalopez10 said:
thanks, i might just do that but all sprint ever freaking does is that they gonna do a reset of the phone and i already did that, I KNOW WHAT IM DOING WITH MY PHONE,
and it would be nice to learn how to root, cuz i been thinking of doing for a whileeee after 2.2 update...and see if i can fix this problem.
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My 2 cents:
Don't root with a problem already present. 99% of the members here will not be able to help you with any of the issues you might run into. Only the developers will be able to help with real issues. That being said, since you already have a problem the worst thing you can do is void your warranty by rooting.

werxen said:
My 2 cents:
Don't root with a problem already present. 99% of the members here will not be able to help you with any of the issues you might run into. Only the developers will be able to help with real issues. That being said, since you already have a problem the worst thing you can do is void your warranty by rooting.
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This is not accurate..
80% of the members here ARE able to help, but 90% of those members will choose not to if you are rude and disrespectful like some other people choose to be.
Rooting your phone may very well fix your problems.
It may not help at all, but many of the roms available are far more stable than stock.
Uninstall all of your non-stock apps and see if the problem persists. If it does not then you know it was a software problem and you can either take the plunge and root and go from there, or reinstall your apps one by one and see when you start having problems again. If you uninstall all non-stock apps and you still have issues then you may have a hardware problem in which case you should try to get your ohone replaced especially if you are still in your 30 days.
Keep in mind that even if you root and technically void your warranty a) your warranty being void is at the discretion of the CS rep you talk to and b) rooting does NOT void your insurance and your insurance covers manufacturing defects at no cost to you.
Try to learn some basic troubleshooting habits and avoid things like: homophobic comments, advising members to kill themselves, excessive swearing, calling people trolls when you are clearly being a troll yourself, and you will get all the advice you ask for.
Unrevoked has been pulled temporarily for some bugfixing so rooting 2.2 is actually not possible right now until they re-release it, or you find a copy of Unrevoked 3 somewhere (which is a bad idea, only use an official copy made available by the Unrevoked team) so take some time to read up, ask questions and understand some of the fundamentals of what you are getting into before you do something like break your wifi and not realize it's an easy fix then come on here and freak out.
Rooting is intimidating before you do it the first few times, but if you follow the guides to the letter and stay calm you'll be just fine. Just don't forget the staying calm part. There isn't much you can do to your phone that is irreversible, it's just a matter of preparing for potential problems and knowing what steps to take to recover from them.
If you are remotely inclined to learn how to root your phone then do it!! But only if you have enough time to devote to what will soon become your new hobby/obsession, it's that much fun

werxen said:
When was the last time you actually gave anything to a thread or these forums? Honestly bro everything I have seen you post is useless and non-technical in every aspect. Not trying to be mean to you but stop trying to help when you don't give good advice. We get it, you have a high post count. Good for you.
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You're an idiot, the only posts of mine you've probably seen are responses to your offensive drivel. I don't care what you think of me, and am not about to provide you with proof that I know my ****. I don't care about post count and the advice I give is sound.
Look in a mirror.

No offense, but why is this still an issue? If OP did a factory reset, which is assumed to bring the phone back to a clean stock, and this problem still persists then the obvious solution would be to get a replacement. Yes, a replacement could take some time to arrive, but if this is a hardware issue, any amount of troubleshooting on the software side wouldn't matter. Then again, maybe you have a faulty micro-sd card and could be simple as swapping for a new one. Anyways, if you did a MSL/factory reset to a clean slate and your phone still intermittenly reboots, go get a new one. Good luck.

mizzos4 said:
No offense, but why is this still an issue? If OP did a factory reset, which is assumed to bring the phone back to a clean stock, and this problem still persists then the obvious solution would be to get a replacement. Yes, a replacement could take some time to arrive, but if this is a hardware issue, any amount of troubleshooting on the software side wouldn't matter. Then again, maybe you have a faulty micro-sd card and could be simple as swapping for a new one. Anyways, if you did a MSL/factory reset to a clean slate and your phone still intermittenly reboots, go get a new one. Good luck.
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Agreed! Refrain from rooting because that will void your warranty.

aalopez10 said:
yes, i install and uninstall the launcher and did a factory reset to the phone and it still the same way.. just seeing if other ppl have had this problem, if its the phone itself or the sprint service connection.
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I think what he meant was weather or not this still happens without installing launcherpro at all, when you're just running the default launcher. Also, does it still happen if you remove/uninstall all of your widgets/apps? If yes, and this still happens with no widgets running, and no apps installed, you may want to talk to Sprint about an exchange.
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[Q] Any chance a one-click-root solution will come soon that doesn't wipe memory?

Good evening all!
Question I have is simply when does everyone suspect a single-click Root might come along that doesn't wipe the phone's memory? I've already had to reset my phone once (because of Verizon) and hoping to not have to do it again for awhile (restoring 12k SMS takes awhile). I know many phones in the past have eventually gotten a one-click method that doesn't wipe the phone and wondering how feasible it is that we'll see one here in a short amount of time.
Thanks in advance, all! Keep up the good work.

Rooting doesn't wipe the device, the problem is that you have to unlock the device first, which will.

champers said:
Rooting doesn't wipe the device, the problem is that you have to unlock the device first, which will.
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Can I ask why? Many devices have had single-click roots that retained locked bootloaders. A reference would be my Atrix 4G. Motorola locked the bootloader fairly hard and I never unlocked mine, but I still managed to root the device using Z4Root, without a whipe. I downloaded the app, opened it, and clicked the "Root" button. I restarted the phone and the phone was rooted with SuperUser and BusyBox installed.

hotleadsingerguy said:
Can I ask why? Many devices have had single-click roots that retained locked bootloaders. A reference would be my Atrix 4G. Motorola locked the bootloader fairly hard and I never unlocked mine, but I still managed to root the device using Z4Root, without a whipe. I downloaded the app, opened it, and clicked the "Root" button. I restarted the phone and the phone was rooted with SuperUser and BusyBox installed.
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Those are usually hacks that take advantage of security flaws found in the OS or other software... the same way that malware authors find holes in Windows and write software to take advantage of it to exploit your computer. The bugs that allow you to root without unlocking are the same kind of bugs that has given Microsoft a bad reputation for security over the years, and naturally Google doesn't want security flaws in Android so they try to minimize them and fix any that are found.
A hole might be found in ICS eventually.

phazerorg said:
Those are usually hacks that take advantage of security flaws found in the OS or other software... the same way that malware authors find holes in Windows and write software to take advantage of it to exploit your computer. The bugs that allow you to root without unlocking are the same kind of bugs that has given Microsoft a bad reputation for security over the years, and naturally Google doesn't want security flaws in Android so they try to minimize them and fix any that are found.
A hole might be found in ICS eventually.
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I wasn't really asking about the ethical use of such things...just whether anyone could see it being feasibly possible in the near future. Then again, if anyone knows of a way to restore 12k SMS in 5 minutes I'm open to unlocking/rooting the old-fashioned way.
By the way, even the way unlocking/rooting is accomplished now is considered a "hack". Using ADB to unlock/root the phone isn't the way it's meant to be used. ADB stands for Android Debugging Bridge...it's meant to debug, not crack open the bootloader.

hotleadsingerguy said:
I wasn't really asking about the ethical use of such things...just whether anyone could see it being feasibly possible in the near future. Then again, if anyone knows of a way to restore 12k SMS in 5 minutes I'm open to unlocking/rooting the old-fashioned way.
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Sorry about that, I didn't mean to imply any ethics here. I was just trying to answer the question about why there isn't a one-click root. I may have misinterpreted your "why?" question.

I don't see that happening any time soon. It's so effortless to unlock the bootloader that why would anyone waste their time trying to find a workaround.

jhuynh said:
I don't see that happening any time soon. It's so effortless to unlock the bootloader that why would anyone waste their time trying to find a workaround.
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I wouldn't call re-configuring everything effortless lol I'd rather spend 45 minutes unlocking and rooting than spend 5 minutes doing it and another hour getting it set up...again. Restoring all of your stuff can be a pain if you don't have it empty. It downloads the apps but it doesn't set them up.
Have you tried restoring a massive number of text messages? I had to delete half of mine simply because it took well over an hour and a half to restore the first time and I had to reset the phone anyway. It's extremely time-consuming to have to clear out the phone. I'd say it was a strong 2 1/2 or 3 hours from start to finish yesterday to do it (and yes, there was a reason I couldn't unlock+root at the same time).

[Q] Issues with S3 Hotspot

Hi everyone,
First of all, I just wanted to say thanks to everyone here for being such a great resource in the past. I have performed many roots via guides on here.
My real question, I was super excited to get KitKat and immediately accepted the AT&T Software Update...2 hours later I realized that my Portable WIFI Hotspot app was no longer functional due to the upgraded OS. I figured a factory reset would be fine since it wasnt KitKat when it first came to me, sadly it wasn't.
Does anyone have any advice for a work around? I have unlimited data with AT&T right now and do not wish to sacrafice that for hotspot services but it is a very convienent feature to have when I am on the go. I've thought of rooting, reverting (which didn't work), and search hours in the app store testing different ones.
Any and all advice/suggestions will be greatly appreciated
Thank you in advance guys and gals!:good:

There is no way around it without rooting, until they create another app, unless there is one that I don't know about. You need a modified framework file in the system directory, which cannot be accessed without root permissions. I'm guessing that you were using foxfi, like so many others around here. I might be wrong.
And next time, please do some research before accepting these toys, I mean OTAs. (I keep calling them toys, because the only reason I see why we so quickly rush to these OTAs is to play with them.) There is plenty of useful information here at XDA for you. Don't just look to fix your problem and then run. Some of the purposes of OTAs are to prevent rooting and block tethering (Foxfi has been broken a couple of times). When you do some more reading, you will see all of the problems that many are having around here after jumping to play with this new toy, I mean update, without waiting or doing enough research.
Personally, one of the best things I have done with my phone is not accepting this latest OTA.

ya, I completely regret not doing my usual research. I thought I read somewhere that you cant root this current version as well. If you can root, if someone could point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it, if not I can take a look around after work
The app was Portable WIFI Hotspot

Here you go if you need to root. It's in the general section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47747640&postcount=1

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help needed

well i had a nexus 7 (2013) laying around and decided i want to put it into my car for a few different reasons. well after pulling all my hair out and using every curse word known to man i finally figured out how to root it. now for 2 weeks ive been reading forums, watching youtube vids, and google searching like crazy. trying to figure out what kernel to use for it, and how to set up tasker. at this point i'm so lost i almost walked away from it........only reason i'm still entertaining the idea is so i can store different tunes on it for my car.
so now that i have that out of the way, i am willing to pay (thats how frustrated i am) for someone to log into my laptop thru teamviewer and do it for me lol. if this is frowned upon i apologize now, i just don't know what to do at this point.

HARD-TIMES said:
well i had a nexus 7 (2013) laying around and decided i want to put it into my car for a few different reasons. well after pulling all my hair out and using every curse word known to man i finally figured out how to root it. now for 2 weeks ive been reading forums, watching youtube vids, and google searching like crazy. trying to figure out what kernel to use for it, and how to set up tasker. at this point i'm so lost i almost walked away from it........only reason i'm still entertaining the idea is so i can store different tunes on it for my car.
so now that i have that out of the way, i am willing to pay (thats how frustrated i am) for someone to log into my laptop thru teamviewer and do it for me lol. if this is frowned upon i apologize now, i just don't know what to do at this point.
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you dont need to root it to put it in your car you know

Yes. You need to root it.
If you're dedicating it to the car use Timur's kernel, It's free now since it's not being supported anymore, but then again neither is the tablet.
Tasker is extremely daunting, Try Automate instead. It's still incredibly powerful but uses blocks that makes programming so much easier. And you can find many flows, what Automate calls it's "programs", through the community to get you going, learn from, or pick apart.
Keep in mind Timur's has a separate kernel for wifi and lte.
Timur's: https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=673956719939830775
Automate: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.llamalab.automate
Oh, and just go straight to CarWebGuru Launcher: https://play.google.com/store/search?q=CarWebGuru+Launcher&c=apps

i appreciate the response, i am having tons of issues. i can't figure out how to get timur installed. tried quite a few times with no luck. i was able to get elemental x installed but thats it. it doesn't do what i need for the permanent install though. starting to lose faith lol

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i appreciate the response, i am having tons of issues. i can't figure out how to get timur installed. tried quite a few times with no luck. i was able to get elemental x installed but thats it. it doesn't do what i need for the permanent install though. starting to lose faith lol
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It's the same exact process. You download timur's mod and flash the services and usb-host through twrp.
Flashing is the easiest part of this process. it can be frustrating at times but once you figure it out and get it done you'll be proud.
Trust me, it took a year for me to get my power issues sorted out. You can do it.

Actually not the same, I installed ex kernel manager and it installed it for me. I downloaded Timur from the link posted above . Tried numerous times to install and no luck

fr4nk1yn said:
Yes. You need to root it.
If you're dedicating it to the car use Timur's kernel, It's free now since it's not being supported anymore, but then again neither is the tablet.
Tasker is extremely daunting, Try Automate instead. It's still incredibly powerful but uses blocks that makes programming so much easier. And you can find many flows, what Automate calls it's "programs", through the community to get you going, learn from, or pick apart.
Keep in mind Timur's has a separate kernel for wifi and lte.
Timur's: https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=673956719939830775
Automate: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.llamalab.automate
Oh, and just go straight to CarWebGuru Launcher: https://play.google.com/store/search?q=CarWebGuru+Launcher&c=apps
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Is the link you posted for the WiFi kernel ? If not that's what I need

I haven't downloaded from that links since I have the files from when I donated. It says flo-deb so I'm assuming it has both.

well i think i'm done. about to throw this thing in the trash