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What is the benefit of running a custom kernel?!

Just what the title of the thread reads.
I am running damagecontrol 3.2.3 rom with the base kernel but i have noticed that others are running custom kernel..
what is the benefit and is it reversible if i don't like it and want to flash back to the base? Thanks for the help guys.

There are severl different potential benefits such as: higher FPS, lover voltage, high frequency of the CPU, etc. Do a nand back up first. Flash a new kernel, if you don't like it run a nand restore.

I find the custom kernels drastically improve the battery life of the device.

I'm having trouble finding the kernels, even if I search for, say "bfs fps kernel." Is there a thread that links them all, or at least compares them to tell which is for what?

Here's the best kernel I've found so far:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
netarchy-toastmod 3.7.3c. Getting high FPS, and much better battery life.

drmacinyasha said:
Here's the best kernel I've found so far:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
netarchy-toastmod 3.7.3c. Getting high FPS, and much better battery life.
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I've been on the ffolkes kernel for DC for awhile now, and I get 45 fps. Tried the netarchy awhile back and got low fps. Tried the newest one just a minute ago, fps in the 20's. The suck.

effluent said:
I've been on the ffolkes kernel for DC for awhile now, and I get 45 fps. Tried the netarchy awhile back and got low fps. Tried the newest one just a minute ago, fps in the 20's. The suck.
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You're either not using the right kernel, or something is screwed up on your phone. I'm getting 50+ FPS when I put SetCPU on Performance.
Make sure you put SetCPU on Performance and not on-demand or userspace.

Last time I tried netarchy's kernel I don't remember clocks making a difference in FPS much..
If he has 20FPS setting the clock to performance likely won't do crap.
My recc. read the damn thread!

topdnbass said:
Last time I tried netarchy's kernel I don't remember clocks making a difference in FPS much..
If he has 20FPS setting the clock to performance likely won't do crap.
My recc. read the damn thread!
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If you're underclocked and undervolted to 128Mhz and SetCPU is preventing it from going up, I'm fairly sure you're not going to get very high FPS.

Im using netarchy-toastmod-3.7.3-kernel and i got over 53fp.It true that help save battery and high cpu. Find here http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
just in case wanna a stock kernel 2.6.29 , you can find here: http://www.mediafire.com/?55dhnr5579xil7h

Are you getting 50 fps on an epson or novatec screen?
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SetCPU on Performance, overclocked to 1158Mhz.

Guys, in your best subjective opinion, which kernel should I run with damage control 3.2.3? I'm not worried about overclocking very much. Also how do I find out which screen I have for my phone?
Thanks
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drmacinyasha said:
If you're underclocked and undervolted to 128Mhz and SetCPU is preventing it from going up, I'm fairly sure you're not going to get very high FPS.
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A bottleneck is not the same thing as stock clocks.
Trix, try looking around. This has been answered about 1000 times.
Quick way, if your brightness control fades it's nova, if not its epson.

drmacinyasha said:
Here's the best kernel I've found so far:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
netarchy-toastmod 3.7.3c. Getting high FPS, and much better battery life.
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10chars.
trixr750 said:
Also how do I find out which screen I have for my phone?
Thanks
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adb shell into your phone, and do a dmesg | grep mddi

trixr750 said:
Guys, in your best subjective opinion, which kernel should I run with damage control 3.2.3? I'm not worried about overclocking very much. Also how do I find out which screen I have for my phone?
Thanks
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My vote is for ffolkes undervolted kernel. Performance is good, FPS is good on both epson and novatek, and I have achieved fantastic battery life with it.

trixr750 said:
Guys, in your best subjective opinion, which kernel should I run with damage control 3.2.3? I'm not worried about overclocking very much. Also how do I find out which screen I have for my phone?
Thanks
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I have used both ffolkes and netarchy
ffolkes i got better battery life however if you have a nova screen you need to search for and download "Novafreq" app and play with it a little tog et the best results for FPS. My normal FPS on this kernal was 40-43.
Netarchy - YOU DONT use Novafreq (which may be why some of you got such a low FPS on it, you really want to be at its stock which i believe is 380 or you will get horrible fps) With netarchy i get better FPS but slightly less battery saving. my average FPS with netarchy is 49-52FPS
Over all the battery saving was a significant amount or me between the too but it was slightly noticeable. In the end i chose Netarchy since i felt the added FPS was more significant then the slight battery increase.
The other reason i choose Netarchy is it gets updated frequently where ffolkes seems to have stopped at what it is (nothing wrong with that since it was mainly made to fix FPS on Nova screens)

Ive gotten 50-51fps on profiled setup in setcpu. even all the way down to 384. Running Netarchy & OMJ Rom

Best kernel for latest fresh?

Alright, so I'm coming from cm 6 and I was using snap with it. But what I'm wondering, is what is the best kernel for fresh.
Thanks.

derik123derik123 said:
Alright, so I'm coming from cm 6 and I was using snap with it. But what I'm wondering, is what is the best kernel for fresh.
Thanks.
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I'm running King's latest...#8 I think. Getting 53fps, 1250 Quadrant score with stock 998mhz speed. Seems good so far.

If you want great battery and dont care about the fps cap, stick with the latest stock kernel thats built right into fresh.

best kernel for lastest fresh?
I am using the kernal that came with the rom and it seems to work just fine. i thought the claims on battery life might be over rated but can say that with moderate use i got 37 hours from 100% to 15%. Might try kings again but not sure if that would hurt that battery life.

damanrob said:
I am using the kernal that came with the rom and it seems to work just fine. i thought the claims on battery life might be over rated but can say that with moderate use i got 37 hours from 100% to 15%. Might try kings again but not sure if that would hurt that battery life.
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I promise you that the claims of improved battery life for the new HTC kernel are not overstated at all. In fact... there are no words to describe how much of an improvement it actually is. The theory follows that the other kernels will be re-optimized based on the new HTC kernel.

As above, stock gets the best battery life. If you need the OC/FPS/etc you can try King's #8 (I had stability issues, personally) or #6 (worked like a charm). Currently I'm using the netarchy 4.1.9.1 beta. Battery life could be better IMO, but feels really snappy. LP looks too good @ >50 FPS for me to stick with stock.

edufur said:
I promise you that the claims of improved battery life for the new HTC kernel are not overstated at all. In fact... there are no words to describe how much of an improvement it actually is. The theory follows that the other kernels will be re-optimized based on the new HTC kernel.
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I have been running Fresh 3.2 with the built in kernel, but I've also been using SetCPU with a very low performance, battery friendly profile.
My question is whether I should be using SetCPU at all anymore, since I heard that this new kernel already supports throttling the CPU back when not in demand. I've been excited to test out how it effects my battery myself, but if someone has the answer, it would save me a week.

dom085 said:
I have been running Fresh 3.2 with the built in kernel, but I've also been using SetCPU with a very low performance, battery friendly profile.
My question is whether I should be using SetCPU at all anymore, since I heard that this new kernel already supports throttling the CPU back when not in demand. I've been excited to test out how it effects my battery myself, but if someone has the answer, it would save me a week.
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Even if the stock kernel does scale down the voltage to the CPU, I think you would still need setCPU if you want to OC. However, the stock kernel probably does not support OCing. However, I think setCPU could still be beneficial for keeping the CPU running at minimum when the phone is in sleep mode. Then again, that feature could also be incorporated into the new HTC kernel for all we know.
Like someone else mentioned, Kings BFS #8 gave me stability issues, but #6 works fantastic in terms of performance and stability; not to mention, everything works on my phone as it should. I got 2 generic batteries and a charger from eBay for dirt cheap, so battery life if of little concern to me.

Is there a kernel for fresh 3.2 with cifs support?

[Q] HTC EVO -- Best Battery life ROM???

Can anyone tell me which ROM (STABLE) provides the best battery life on HTC EVO???
Thanks!

I have been through just about all on this site and Fresh's newest seems to work best for me. With moderate daily usage I can go without charging for about 22-24 hours. Of course all I need to go is 12-14 b/c I charge every night anyway, but I did leave off charger one day just to see how far I could go. I'm giving Calk's latest a try right now to see how it goes. Just be sure to give whatever ROM you try a couple charges before making a final decision, as it usually takes this amount to get an accurate read on true battery life.

how many of these post are we going to need lol

buddho81 said:
Can anyone tell me which ROM (STABLE) provides the best battery life on HTC EVO???
Thanks!
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I know that the latest kernels off the latest build have been killing my battery, it's horrible for my EVO.
But you really have to try different rom/kernel/PRI/radio combinations to find the best battery life for your Evo. I wish there was a preset rating system for each rom though, just to see how things work for everyone else(i.e. battery life, quadrant scores, force close problems, etc.)...but there really are a lot of variables, so I don't think that may ever happen.

Yeah I agree there isn't a clear cut winner. Everyone uses their phone different so it will differ for everyone.
Totally agree to give it a few full charges... I suggest when you get a new rom and/or kernel installed to reset the battery stats (can be done in recovery) then use it till it dies then charge to full before turning it back on.
Personally, I've been using Fresh 3.3 w/ the Kings #6 kernel and not only has the phone been screamin' fast the battery has been good. I'm only on my 2nd charge up though so I still have one or two to go before everything smooths out.

buddho81 said:
Can anyone tell me which ROM (STABLE) provides the best battery life on HTC EVO???
Thanks!
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2.2 Evo Kernels Tested and charted

admorris said:
I have been through just about all on this site and Fresh's newest seems to work best for me. With moderate daily usage I can go without charging for about 22-24 hours. Of course all I need to go is 12-14 b/c I charge every night anyway, but I did leave off charger one day just to see how far I could go. I'm giving Calk's latest a try right now to see how it goes. Just be sure to give whatever ROM you try a couple charges before making a final decision, as it usually takes this amount to get an accurate read on true battery life.
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What kernel are you using for the battery life?
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catseyenu said:
2.2 Evo Kernels Tested and charted
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As posted here, the tests showed that CM w/ Snap 7.5 probably has the best battery life - and it seems by a lot.

download juice defender

[ROM]CM-B2_Supersonic-XV a.k.a [email protected]$T(SuperMOD) UPDATE#5 w snap 7.5

I'm using the latest Fresh and I just plugged my phone in at 15% battery after 37 hours. I'm pretty happy with that.

Fresh Rom always gave me good battery.. I'm just using the rooted stock OTA and am getting great battery life.
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Sporkman said:
how many of these post are we going to need lol
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Until someone takes the time to make a section that covers the different problems. Battery problems, Battery Problems w/ ROMS, Apps not loading, etc. etc.
Wishful thinking. I do like the search in the search to help cut down this crap

Wallabe said:
Until someone takes the time to make a section that covers the different problems. Battery problems, Battery Problems w/ ROMS, Apps not loading, etc. etc.
Wishful thinking. I do like the search in the search to help cut down this crap
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I think it would be a great idea for this kind of stuff to happen. Some aggregated source where everyone can submit their information using various roms, kernels, etc. Whether it be information regarding Quadrant scores, linpacks or battery life. On computer hardware forums they generally have a section dedicated to OCing records with charts listing someones entire setup while attaining the clock speeds. I don't see why a similar implementation can not be done here.

Wallabe said:
Until someone takes the time to make a section that covers the different problems. Battery problems, Battery Problems w/ ROMS, Apps not loading, etc. etc.
Wishful thinking. I do like the search in the search to help cut down this crap
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How about if we make a section purely for questions and answers? That could work.

Two words......juice defender
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i use Fresh's Rom made my battery life live avg abt 15 hours

Over 40 kernels were tested and benchmarked in 7 different ways, and the results are posted here.
Should tell you everything you want to know, without bringing roms into the picture (since battery life is most affected by the kernel used, not the rom)
edit - looks like I'm a bit late withthat link - I see the thread for that site was already posted above. It's a great resource.

Fresh 3.2, hands down best battery life for me. 3.3 was pretty bad, as was myn's release....which sucks, because myn's rom is otherwise awesome.

I am using Fresh 3.3.0.1 with a baked kernel that is able to over clock. I then have SetCPU installed with profiles for different states of the phone. If my screen is off I have the cpu set to a max of 500MHz to save battery if there are any processes running in the background. I then have my cpu set to 1119MHz when the phone is plugged in or at 100% with the screen on just because I like a snappy phone. Then when the battery drops below 50% I have it return to stock speeds.
I use my phone heavily for things like subsonic, QIK, FB, Calendar, wireless tether, and of course since unlimited data, calling to any cell, and texting I am on it a lot keeping in touch with friends. I also use the sprint nav at least twice a week.
Results will vary from user to user but so far the phone has been on 7 hours and after some moderate use it's only down to around 75% on the battery.
Again this is how I MYSELF use my phone with this rom and kernel this may not be how you use your phone and you may see different results.
What I have done is searched roms and installed them in total I have used 4 different roms. Baked, Cyanogen, Fresh, and Virus. After installing each rom and setting up my phone I made a nand backup of each so I can flash between them as needed to test. I have found out of all of these roms Fresh 3.3.0.1 with a kernel from the baked roms has worked the best for MY daily use.

SkyRaider 3.3 + KxK #5 question.

I just flashed SkyRaider 3.3 and KingxKernel #5 and I was wondering if that's a good combination for battery life ? Thanks
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You tell us. Is it?

It's super fast but the thing is y just installed set CPU cause I guess your not suppose to have it when you kings kernel
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G_Lowaslike said:
I just flashed SkyRaider 3.3 and KingxKernel #5 and I was wondering if that's a good combination for battery life ? Thanks
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I ran that same combo for a while and IMO the battery did what it does best: SUUUUUUUUCK%$#^& ! .......that been said it's been like that pretty much all the time, if you really use the phone that is, not complaining at all, just saying. That's why I always carry a spare one. There are way too many variables and setup preferences that might differ from one user to the next and if you overclock the thing uses even more juice. Really love the 3.3 Rom but the lack of 3G deal in my case forced me to reflash in a different direction........Good Luck !

What do you mean by lack of 3G ?
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G_Lowaslike said:
What do you mean by lack of 3G ?
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Exactly that......no 3G, very very poor signal if any, I thought it was just me but after reviewing the ongoing 3.3 thread I found out that some people are experiencing this issue too, very small % though. In my case I was with T-Mobile for quite a while, fantastic service but poor signal-coverage at my business location so I switched to Verizon which really rocks signal-coverage-wise until now......sooooo......I really love the ROM and really hope for a feasible fix to get back to it.

it has to be a downed tower or old prl the rom/kernel dont control the phone calls so id say to check with vzw and run the appropriate updates, hope it gets fixed for ya

I'm using KK BFS #5 and the latest SkyRaider and I've got no such issues. No 3G troubles, no battery suckage, no weird stability issues...
Seems all ok for me. I'm happy with the combination. Sedio 1750 battery, BTW.
I do have SetCPU installed, interactive governor, and a profile to lower the clock speed to 612MHz when the screen is off. When awake, the phone is overclocked one notch to 1036MHz.

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It's super fast but the thing is y just installed set CPU cause I guess your not suppose to have it when you kings kernel
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Not too sure where you heard this from. Could you post a link? I've used nothing but KingXKernel's on various Sense-based ROM's, and I've used SetCPU to tweak each and every one of them.
rayporsche said:
I ran that same combo for a while and IMO the battery did what it does best: SUUUUUUUUCK%$#^& !
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I've been running KK#5-BFS on SR 3.3, and my battery life (stock battery) has been pretty fantastic. Of course, that's completely relative, and I'm not a super heavy user, but with all other variables being constant, my battery life has definitely improved since going with this combo. You just have to be intelligent with your SetCPU settings, profiles, and phone settings.
rayporsche said:
Exactly that......no 3G, very very poor signal if any...
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I initially had the same 3G issues with SR 3.3, but ihtfp69 has since fixed these problems with 3.3.1, and my 3G has been flawless ever since.

I use king kernel BFS #5 with setcpu and i get some pretty amazing battery life

I am running the same combo with ROM and kernal minus the SetCpu and forget to charge my phone overnight. So for over 24hrs I was at 29% battery life. This is the best combo I've experienced so far for great battery life. Make sure you do a full system wipe, once you Flash the ROM..

does anyone find that charge times have increased after installing king's kernel 5? It may be just my imagination but I wanted to see if anyone has seen the same

Best ROM for battery life

I need opinions, anyone?
I keep flashing different ROMS and the battery has always had bad life
I've done a lot of different methods to fix battery life issues, but no go.

Having good luck with Swagged Out Stock.
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A lot of people say AOSP ROMs are good on battery life cuz the sense is gone.
Try out Xplod RLS (one of my favs) test it out see how it goes for you. It's an AOSP btw.
For sense I recommend Tommytomatoes Classic v0.0.0.4 its awesome!

How long does your battery last? Are you running mobile data all day? GPS?
I can get around 20-24 hours put of my battery with real heavy usage. Around 2 days with normal use.
I keep my 3g and everything off until i need it.
HTC EVO 4G running Mikg 2.58

Don't know who your talkin too but I'll reply lol
On Classic I'm gettin roughly about 1d 19h 43m with pretty decent usage text, call, xda, browsing jus putting it to charge right now

I have always had the best success with AOSP and custom kernel.
Currently running ICSmod7 with latest tiamets. With 4g it drops fast but without I get through a full day no worries medium use. Text, fb, music during workout ect...
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Getting good battery life with MikG 2.61.

mikg rom to me is best for battery life .and very stable rom and clean so try and let us know .im running miui and battery life is pretty good but not as good as my mikg rom

sense-free
I've been experimenting with ROMs and kernels for the last 18 months, always looking for best battery life with regular to heavy use. A good custom kernel will sometimes give you an extra 10-15 %. Using setCPU or another app like systemtuner (my pref) to turn CPU down while screen off can also give you 5-10%. Far and away the best thing for my battery is to use an alternative launcher (ADW for me) and then use Titanium backup pro or systemtuner to freeze sense. you just find the two elements in the process list that start with "HTC sense" and freeze them. Night and day. FYI I run synergy and have always come back to Myn's ROMs cause they are good for battery from the start, but they also take well to pretty much any custom kernel, which isn't true for all ROMs. I like everything to work so I always ditch AOSP ROMs a few days after trying them.

sam9696 said:
I've been experimenting with ROMs and kernels for the last 18 months, always looking for best battery life with regular to heavy use. A good custom kernel will sometimes give you an extra 10-15 %. Using setCPU or another app like systemtuner (my pref) to turn CPU down while screen off can also give you 5-10%. Far and away the best thing for my battery is to use an alternative launcher (ADW for me) and then use Titanium backup pro or systemtuner to freeze sense. you just find the two elements in the process list that start with "HTC sense" and freeze them. Night and day. FYI I run synergy and have always come back to Myn's ROMs cause they are good for battery from the start, but they also take well to pretty much any custom kernel, which isn't true for all ROMs. I like everything to work so I always ditch AOSP ROMs a few days after trying them.
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Underclocking your CPU typically causes higher battery drain... unless you're overclocking. As long as nothing is really hammering the CPU in the background (which is the problem, not the CPU speed!), then it's better to let the CPU enter higher power states in order to finish the work quicker and return to low power sleep state. Intel calls this HUGI (Hurry Up and Get Idle). Overclocking can have bad effects with HUGI due to the higher voltage required to run at those frequencies. Lol'd at your AOSP comment though. I suppose some people are okay with subpar android, aka sense .
My Evo can last a week on a single charge. CM7.1, 1850 mAh aftermarket battery (slim, stock battery cover), Tiamat 4.1.0 kernel, aggressive undervolting and monitoring of wakelocks combined with 90% wifi usage (3g is the #1 source of battery drain!).
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Tommytomatoes The Classic is a solid sense rom with good battery life its fast as hell, has lots of mods and themes and is pretty sick I've been stuck on it for over a month now I've flashed other roms but always come back to the classic after a few hours
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maybe a dumb question. What is the difference between underclocking and undervolting?
Gary13579 said:
Underclocking your CPU typically causes higher battery drain... unless you're overclocking. As long as nothing is really hammering the CPU in the background (which is the problem, not the CPU speed!), then it's better to let the CPU enter higher power states in order to finish the work quicker and return to low power sleep state. Intel calls this HUGI (Hurry Up and Get Idle). Overclocking can have bad effects with HUGI due to the higher voltage required to run at those frequencies. Lol'd at your AOSP comment though. I suppose some people are okay with subpar android, aka sense .
My Evo can last a week on a single charge. CM7.1, 1850 mAh aftermarket battery (slim, stock battery cover), Tiamat 4.1.0 kernel, aggressive undervolting and monitoring of wakelocks combined with 90% wifi usage (3g is the #1 source of battery drain!).
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Underclocking is when you set the speed of the processor to a lower setting than the stock clocks where as undervolting is lowering the voltage needed to run it at a certain speed be it stock underclocked or overclocked. Simplest way I understand it.
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Real culprit for batt issues
Has anyone ever bothered to understand that theres a pesty bug no one knew of.. Called CIQ "carrier IQ"
Ya this is one of the main reasons behind bad batt.. Sprint and other carriers allow a company to monitor and chart everything we do and it mirrors off txts and data sent and is designed to pick up on.key words... Basically an Invasive tracking monitor. It's a huge in noticed drain... And its been shown to be removed from system/app in many custom roms. But it never does cause its so strattled throughout the OS.
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IMPuLSe EX said:
I need opinions, anyone?
I keep flashing different ROMS and the battery has always had bad life
I've done a lot of different methods to fix battery life issues, but no go.
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I have been using evodeck v1.3 with the lee kernel and the rom just sips on my battery and gives me outstanding battery life with amazing speeds

lojak29 said:
Has anyone ever bothered to understand that theres a pesty bug no one knew of.. Called CIQ "carrier IQ"
Ya this is one of the main reasons behind bad batt.. Sprint and other carriers allow a company to monitor and chart everything we do and it mirrors off txts and data sent and is designed to pick up on.key words... Basically an Invasive tracking monitor. It's a huge in noticed drain... And its been shown to be removed from system/app in many custom roms. But it never does cause its so strattled throughout the OS.
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"no one knew of" are you kidding me? Carrier IQ has been known about for at least a year now... and no, it's not responsible for any significant amount of battery drain...
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Definantly aosp in my experience. Cm7 gets my vote for battery life

Gary13579 said:
Underclocking your CPU typically causes higher battery drain... unless you're overclocking. As long as nothing is really hammering the CPU in the background (which is the problem, not the CPU speed!), then it's better to let the CPU enter higher power states in order to finish the work quicker and return to low power sleep state. Intel calls this HUGI (Hurry Up and Get Idle). Overclocking can have bad effects with HUGI due to the higher voltage required to run at those frequencies. Lol'd at your AOSP comment though. I suppose some people are okay with subpar android, aka sense .
My Evo can last a week on a single charge. CM7.1, 1850 mAh aftermarket battery (slim, stock battery cover), Tiamat 4.1.0 kernel, aggressive undervolting and monitoring of wakelocks combined with 90% wifi usage (3g is the #1 source of battery drain!).
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So you clearly don't talk on the phone at all.
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alaman68 said:
So you clearly don't talk on the phone at all.
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Ah yes, the people that come in arguing and debating my claims. This happens every time. I use my phone quite often, and still get amazing battery life.
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Gary13579 said:
Ah yes, the people that come in arguing and debating my claims. This happens every time. I use my phone quite often, and still get amazing battery life.
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Dude you have a serious problem I honestly think you need to quit thinking people are attacking you this is the 3rd time I've seen you in a thread that I'm in and not once have I seen you post anything good or helpful I honestly think you should refrain from posting that's my opinion only cause I think your on a kid level and you really can't carry an easy conversation with someone sometimes I wonder if you even have this phone and if your trolling EVO Forum instead of the Transformer Forum.
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