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I am over all of the things it CAN do.
All of it's stupid retarded quirks, bugs, and glitches have worn me thin in the patience department for this stupid phone.
The final straw that broke the camels back:
Now for absolutely NO reason on every reboot the WiFi is switched on. Yet it doesn't do anything. The WiFi light blinks and the icon appears but that is it. After around 3 minutes of the phone being on, it switches off by itself.
I have NEVER had this problem before and I haven't changed ANYTHING on my phone for a solid few months.
This is the type of **** I'm talking about. Windows Mobile just breaks itself for no friggin reason other than it is poorly written.
If they had a "Trade your Windows Mobile device for an iPhone" promotion, I would be the first damn person in line.
I am over Windows Mobile and Microsoft in general.
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GldRush98 said:
I am over all of the things it CAN do.
All of it's stupid retarded quirks, bugs, and glitches have worn me thin in the patience department for this stupid phone.
The final straw that broke the camels back:
Now for absolutely NO reason on every reboot the WiFi is switched on. Yet it doesn't do anything. The WiFi light blinks and the icon appears but that is it. After around 3 minutes of the phone being on, it switches off by itself.
I have NEVER had this problem before and I haven't changed ANYTHING on my phone for a solid few months.
This is the type of **** I'm talking about. Windows Mobile just breaks itself for no friggin reason other than it is poorly written.
If they had a "Trade your Windows Mobile device for an iPhone" promotion, I would be the first damn person in line.
I am over Windows Mobile and Microsoft in general.
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I've been looking into getting a blackberry probably a curve. as long as I can find a device that let me ssh and telnet into the servers I support I'm good.
I have gotten over all the things you can do with it...I actually did a hardreset and really do not have plans on putting too many custom apps onit ...I just want the device to work as intended...the hell with the pizazz
try a symbian based phone. i use one as my second phone. i never reflashed it just works all the time.
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I believe the 3G iPhone is coming out this year. They need one like the touch slide or something. I text too much to consider the iPhone's keyboard.
LOL @ Symbian based phone... A few of us have tried it with "smart" phones - I, for example, tried it with a Nokia E61. All I can say is - good luck... The software you can get for the symbian pretty much all sucks and looks like it was written for Windows 3.1 (and as a software developer I know why - the way software is written for Symbian OS couldn't possibly be more quirky); the menu system looks and feels like win 3.1, and the OS itself has EVERY BIT as many quirks. Oh - and outlook push? Good luck - they'll say it can do it - have fun with that (haha). Blackberry push? Same there. Office documents? Sure - open them... Have fun editing and then trying to re-open desktop side. The *only* thing symbian does better, in my opinion, is allow syncing with more than one PC - but since I have outlook push to my 8525, that's not an issue for me anyway
I tried and tried to love my symbian. In the end, I unloaded that turd for less than $100 US on eBay and bought my 8525 - which SMOKES the symbian based E61.
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LOL @ Symbian based phone... A few of us have tried it with "smart" phones - I, for example, tried it with a Nokia E61. All I can say is - good luck... The software you can get for the symbian pretty much all sucks and looks like it was written for Windows 3.1 (and as a software developer I know why - the way software is written for Symbian OS couldn't possibly be more quirky); the menu system looks and feels like win 3.1, and the OS itself has EVERY BIT as many quirks. Oh - and outlook push? Good luck - they'll say it can do it - have fun with that (haha). Blackberry push? Same there. Office documents? Sure - open them... Have fun editing and then trying to re-open desktop side. The *only* thing symbian does better, in my opinion, is allow syncing with more than one PC - but since I have outlook push to my 8525, that's not an issue for me anyway
I tried and tried to love my symbian. In the end, I unloaded that turd for less than $100 US on eBay and bought my 8525 - which SMOKES the symbian based E61.
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Like I said it's a second phone (actually my wife's) it takes good pictures and can do more than the average phone. I actually like the camera better, when you click the button it actually takes the picture. MP3 ringtones actually work flawlessly from the sd card. I wish MS and HTC could get those 2 issues right. Otherwise, I really enjoy tweaking my phone and installing ton's of useless stuff to waste my time....LOL... I started with my MPX200 and after my backlight broke for the 10th time I grabbed the symbian phone, only to end up back with a MS based phone. MS is just too big to avoid. Could be better, but I still like the fact that I can customize till my heart is content....even with the bugs..keeps my adrenaline flowing....lol
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Gotta agree.... symbian no way. Lived with it for ages on my SE P900 and it did rock but the support was garbage!
Moved on to the TyTN as a gamble and it was totally worth it.
Funny you guys mention that, I'm looking to get a Nokia E51 as my going out phone. I need something "smart" and small. Despite what you say, I love the navigation compared to Windows Mobile Smartphone (WM 6 Standard). You're telling me 5 different "more" pushes to get through settings? Screw that.
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Funny you guys mention that, I'm looking to get a Nokia E51 as my going out phone. I need something "smart" and small. Despite what you say, I love the navigation compared to Windows Mobile Smartphone (WM 6 Standard). You're telling me 5 different "more" pushes to get through settings? Screw that.
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Quick question...what do you expect from a forum dedicated to WM devices??
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Quick question...what do you expect from a forum dedicated to WM devices??
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=) There are different followings. I love Windows Mobile... as long as it has a touch screen. I've played with many of the WM Standard (and by standard, I mean non-touchscreen devices) devices released in the states, and they all seem cumbersome as hell. Recently played with a Blackjack II and it had literally 7 pages in settings. In my opinion, Symbian (S60) and BlackBerry have the non touchscreen OS market on lock. Whats the point of functionality if it takes too long to find it?
irockash I just bought an E51. It is one of the best and most capable phones I have ever had - for it's size especially. I am originally a Symbian fan, but once I was introduced to Windows Mobile 2 and a half years ago I bought little else but HTCs. I have to say, that every once in a while I go back to Symbian for a try - namely the latest Nokias - N82, E51 etc, and they are really trouble-free compared to WM. They don't freeze up, they work flawlessly, and generally run faster than MW phones. Unfortunately there's no Skype for Symbian - you have to use 3rd party apps like Fring, and they work alright. I have to say however that at the end of the day I would have to choose WM over Symbian if I want to have a SERIOUS phone with loads of functionality - the Nokias like the N82 are super because of the 5mega-pixel camera and very good video recording, but give me my WM anyday - and I mean HTC ONLY! I guess each of us has our preferences.
I have both a symbian (SE W950i) and wm phone (hermes)...
Simply put, Symbian is no where near WM as far as customization, flexibility, and support is concerned. Symbian is just too plain and bland, and the W950i freezes way more than my hermes, not to mention that occasionally I can't even pick up phone calls. What's worse....I cannot do anything about since I can't mess with the firmware.
OTOH, cooking WM is easy if you spend some time studying it. I can do almost whatever I want with it. Most "problems" people encounter has to deal with the Rom's stability + application installed.
I would never go back since using my WM touch screen phones. My wife can't figure it out though. Her 6682 runs without reboot though for about 2 weeks when the battery dies...lol. Then I find it in the car and charge it so I can call her sometimes....lol. It's simpler for her to use, but it's not near as capable as my phone. It's better than the free phones most people typically have. So if I was techno dyslexic I would go for the symbian phones.
MS squashed the competition and will keep it that way. Even the IPhone 2 is promising, but MS will squash them too. Thanks to Apple for reving up the competition though! (Bill Gates owns half of them anyway)
So if I had to give up WM, I'd be bored for awhile........ I would suggest loading a good reliable rom & don't load anything else. yeah right....
Agreed! Well said! I had an N82 for 3 days - I mean the camera IS on par with a DEDICATED digital camera - even for night photos - but the functionality and flexibility of WM phones are UNBELIEVABLE and that's what I'd go for if I had to choose only ONE of the two OSs and have it for the rest of my life. Regardless of the little idiosyncracies - Windows Mobile ROCKS!
Also, as a serious audiophile, I really really urge that people think TWICE, or TRICE, before jumping on WALKMAN phone. I bought the w950i as I only paid a little over $200 for it new, and it has 4gb built-in. I'd expected the sound quality to be at least as good as some MP3 players....boy was I wrong..my Hermes + SRS WOW with Stock earbuds beat the crap out of the walkmanphone with whatever EQ on it, even if I amped the phone and use it along with my Sennheiser HD600, there's still no match at all. I immediately felt stupid for buying that phone. Fortunately, the phone was for my GF so it didn't bother me too much and she didn't seem to care too much about Sound Quality, convenience was all that matters to her. As for me, WM, hands down. I wouldn't mind playing with an iphone after it gets matured. ATM, there's just so many things that's lacking on it...undeniably, the UI is great...Apple's always good with UI and design..a very innovative company indeed. And TBH, I thought HTC's Apps played a great deal of a role in keeping the competition up. If WM looks like WM5/Stock WM6....I wouldn't be surprised that WM would slowly get crushed by Apple in the future.
I will probably jump ship to when an 3G Iphone is available and I see that you can actually install 3d party apps on it.
I did however see the new Samsung I780 and it looks very nice, small formfactgor, localised proper keyboard, 3G, Wifi, bt, GPS and touchpad like on a notebook to control stuff..
I've been a WM user for a long time. I used to lurk on the forums waiting for all of the new roms waiting to install them all. I also used to try out EVERY new 3rd party app that hit the market. I've been a long time member here, in fact my registration here is the longest standing for any website I'm actually active on.
It pains me to leave it all though. I'm buying an iPhone in the next couple of weeks. When it first came out, I still had my "Well who cares, I've got my good old HTC" mindset but have seen it perform better for the purposes I have reduced to using my phone for.
I want to be clear on what those purposes are, I listen to alot of podcasts and audio books. I also do alot of email and text messaging. Thats pretty much it. I don't need a great camera or fast Internet. with that said, the iPhone handles the audio that has become such a big part of my phone usage over the past year better than any WM device ever built.
How can you go wrong with a 160dpi 3.5" multi-touch screen anyways?
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I've been looking into getting a blackberry probably a curve. as long as I can find a device that let me ssh and telnet into the servers I support I'm good.
I have gotten over all the things you can do with it...I actually did a hardreset and really do not have plans on putting too many custom apps onit ...I just want the device to work as intended...the hell with the pizazz
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My girlfriend got a blackberry curve a few months ago and I am amazed by how FAST and how WELL it works. Makes me jealous I'm stuck with this bloated troll known as Windows Mobile.
I definetly sympathize with you on this topic - many of times lately I've scoured the AT&T website debating to get a phone that I CAN'T flash 30 frigging times a day - just so I can lead a normal life again.
I think it boils down to what you want it to do. I like to have the flexibility to shape it any and every way I can, and try to find a way around something that doesn't work well. Some people prefer simple and reliable.
'Tis a rough blade edge to manuver, but here we dance on it every day
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I definetly sympathize with you on this topic - many of times lately I've scoured the AT&T website debating to get a phone that I CAN'T flash 30 frigging times a day - just so I can lead a normal life again.
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I live in Japan, home of some really slick phones that never make it to Europe or the states. Most people look at my Tytn and say things like, "its so clunky!" and "what?! it doesn't have a TV tuner?!"
But recently I sent my Tytn away for servicing (HTC refused me by the way, caught me out with a different bootloader) and it was away for a week. They gave me one of those slick phones as a replacement and I totally went into withdrawal. It felt like when I was quitting smoking and the replacement phone was like that nicorette gum - necessary and yet sooo unsatisfying. For me Matt, there is no more "normal life" to go back to.
Iphone is really, really nice. But in the end it is going to be just like Mac computers. With WM and with Windows, I can do what I want, how I want, when I want (and usually for free). Iphone and OSX trade these freedoms for a smoother, cleaner and more stable system. It is a fair trade-off and may fit some people's needs, but I'll take the former any day.
This is my first WinMo phone. Regrettably, I jumped on a phone not knowing anything about WinMo at all. Other than the flashy overlay provided by HTC along with nice apps they made (like youtube), there is nothing nice for this phone, and it really.. sucks.
Every single app I've downloaded so far either lacks polish or just flat out doesn't work. I regret not getting an android phone soo much, where I could just go to one centralized place, download an app and have it work perfectly. Instead, I troll the internet looking for nice apps. Some, like Palringo, work pretty well, but still aren't really "made" for this phone. After 10 minutes of talking, the scrolling stops working on messages and I wind up having to drag my hand along the bar along the side that is near impossible to touch. Or I'll download a game/app and have it just spazz out when I run it. So god damn frustrating!
I guess I'm just upset that I have a phone with more potential than I've ever seen. Amazing keyboard, awesome screen, but WinMo just ruins it. I've yet to find an app that works perfectly AND looks nice other than what is provided by HTC with the phone. Why?!
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This is my first WinMo phone. Regrettably, I jumped on a phone not knowing anything about WinMo at all. Other than the flashy overlay provided by HTC along with nice apps they made (like youtube), there is nothing nice for this phone, and it really.. sucks.
Every single app I've downloaded so far either lacks polish or just flat out doesn't work. I regret not getting an android phone soo much, where I could just go to one centralized place, download an app and have it work perfectly. Instead, I troll the internet looking for nice apps. Some, like Palringo, work pretty well, but still aren't really "made" for this phone. After 10 minutes of talking, the scrolling stops working on messages and I wind up having to drag my hand along the bar along the side that is near impossible to touch. Or I'll download a game/app and have it just spazz out when I run it. So god damn frustrating!
I guess I'm just upset that I have a phone with more potential than I've ever seen. Amazing keyboard, awesome screen, but WinMo just ruins it. I've yet to find an app that works perfectly AND looks nice other than what is provided by HTC with the phone. Why?!
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Sorry you're not happy but there is so much more for Win Mobile and that you can do to win mobile than any other phone. Look around a little bit in the Development & Hacking section here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=260
BTW the Marketplace for WinMo is a joke. It's still pretty new and needs MUCH improvements. I usually download my cab files online then either bluetooth them to my phone or stick them on my microsd card.
Best of luck.
I played around with one in the store, and I generally like it just fine. If I paid $349 (T-Mobile) for this thing I'd have to say, NO! But if I can tether through 3G just like I plan to, it'll be worth it. The keyboard is big and nice for typing and I already have an iPhone and I use barely use the apps on it, so I won't be missing much, I'm keeping it though.
Here is to hoping ANDROID gets ported over..
This is my 3rd windows mobile phone, and in my personal opinion, I think Windows mobile 6.1 is an improvement, along with 6.5, but Windows Mobile and windows mobile applications is just a fail, a pure epic fail.
My list of Windows Mobile devices are, T-Mobile MDA, T-Mobile WING and now T-Mobile Touch Pro 2.
My next phone will more than likely be a Windows Mobile phone too Even though it sucks, it is what I'm used to in my mobile devices.
I used to use Psion machines which had excellent built-in applications and, out of misguided loyalty, I stuck to Symbian-based mobiles. After a year and a half with UIQ-3 with its lack of applications I jumped ship to WM/Kaiser and haven't looked back since. The integration with my desktop PC is so much easier and there is plenty of very high quality software around. There is a lot of lesser quality software as well, but that is partly due to the fact that it is easier for people to start out developing software for WM than some of the other platforms.
the thing about winmo phones is that you gotta customize it to make it perfect.. sucks that it doesn't come that way out of the box.. but yea... i have the tilt 2 and i absoultely love it.. but i've been flashing roms on my fuze so i'm not a newb.. but actually the stock rom is very decent compared to other stock winmo phone interfaces.
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My next phone will more than likely be a Windows Mobile phone too Even though it sucks, it is what I'm used to in my mobile devices.
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LOL!!! This is how i feel. Winmo has ruined cell phones for me! Ones you learn how to use one of these things, youll never be satisfied with not tweaking every thing about your cell ever again!
I really wanted to jump to another type of device, but that tasty freedom winmo gives me is just too good
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LOL!!! This is how i feel. Winmo has ruined cell phones for me! Ones you learn how to use one of these things, youll never be satisfied with not tweaking every thing about your cell ever again!
I really wanted to jump to another type of device, but that tasty freedom winmo gives me is just too good
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Yup, I've had all three sliding keyboard phones from T-Mobile, I really like them, the MDA was the best, it was like a rock, dropped it so many times and it never broke.
The Touch Pro 2 fell twice already and doesn't even have a scuff mark, I'm impressed.
Overall, the OS is addicting, kind of like using Windows 7 but asked to use MacOS or a linux distro, just don't want to take the time to switch over to a new OS.
I can only hope Windows Mobile 7 will be better.
I agree, it is fun customizing. I'm just upset that there simply seems to lack "nice" apps. Nothing is completely polished or utilizes the phone since there are so many different kinds of winmo phones out there. Argh, if only I could develop my own apps.. or somehow get android on here
I'm happy with WM, never had a WM device before. Sure it has its limitations (Which are well documented) but for what it is, I find it useful and generally, enjoyable.
I just received my VZW TP2 two days ago and have already gotten to where I can use most of its features, or at least the ones I will be using. This is the fourth WMO device I've had, including two Ipaq PDA's (no phone) and my last a TMO MDA. Like Glck23 said it is a rock, and still works fine after 3½ years of use. I still don't like the cases available for the TP2 and would like to stick with Krusell since I have quite a bit of Multi-Adapt accessories for it, but they don't have a case available that allows plugging in a set of earphones while in the case--or if they do I'm not aware of it. Having two types of TP2's makes this choice more confusing, and although some other cases use the knob-and-clip type of belt-clip system it is never clear if any of them are compatible with Krusell accessories. Piel Frama cases are generally compatible but I'm not paying $100 or more for a phone case.
I build and maintain several computers including my own and am accustomed to M$ Win, so I feel at home with WMO even though it does seem clunky at times. I do think the TP2 is a big improvement, and what rough edges it has, like no camera flash, these don't bother me much.
I haven't gotten into much tweaking yet, but have downloaded a registry editor, a necessity IMO, and am ready to make some meaningful changes. I didn't try any custom ROM's in the MDA and probably won't here unless 6.1 becomes unstable or slow, which it hasn't yet. I would like to find out how to make the TP2 a GPS without GPS software, but I already have iGuidance v3 that I bought for the MDA and iNav says it should work in the TP2. I have a BT GPS that has always worked well to use with iGuidance. Does anyone have any advise on this, as I would like to get GPS functionality working here.
For those that think the WM phone(s) are junk, I'm on my 3rd HTC phone.
Tilt, Touch Pro, Tilt2. I've been using either windows mobile or the windows PPC since the first Dell Axium X5 PDA. If I were to switch to say an iPhone, I would probably have the same reaction to it, as say someone new to a WM phone.
I wouldn't go to another OS on a phone, just for the simple reason that I have spent so much time on them, I know how to tweak, hack & adjust my phone the way I want it.
I think it is a personal thing. If you want to turn on a phone, and have it do what you want, without any input from you, to customize or personalize it to your needs, then get an iphone or something similar. But, when I buy something, I consider it MINE to do with as I please.
I don't understand these people. Don't they realize it isn't what they want BEFORE 30 days is up so that they can return it and get something else?
Hi all,
i know is too early to say but do you guys think we would be able to override the android partition with a winmo 6.x install?
me personally i think that device is wonderful according to the specs and pictures I've seen but again i love WinMo i cant see myself without it. i ditched the TP2 from sprint waiting for a snapdragon WinMo phone but that doesn't seem to be the case now since they've announced the EVO running on Android. Android is one heck of an OS but i preferred WinMO 6.x series, not even WinP 7 Series it is cool and all that but i don't think i'm ready to drop WinMo 6.x or Windows Phone Classic just yet.
i know it is almost impossible because of CDMA drivers support.
what do you think guys ?
Do you have an HD2? If not, buy one of those instead. If you do, then apart from the 8MP camera and the extra memory, you already have the WinMo version of it.
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Do you have an HD2? If not, buy one of those instead. If you do, then apart from the 8MP camera and the extra memory, you already have the WinMo version of it.
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No indication that there's going to be an HD2 that runs on Sprint in the US. I would say there's a 0% chance that anyone will put WM 6.5 on the EVO, due to hardware compatibility and (frankly) a lack of interest.
I would love winmo on my future Evo, but I agree the effort involved would be immense and for very little return.
thanks for your responses guys, all of them make sense but again this was from a personal point of view, i just can't spend $500 for a device with ancient specs and with a keyboard, when there is a HD2 with WinMo around there that cost the same but GSM counterpart not CDMA(sprint). my dilemma here is leave or not leave sprint, i love sprint Plans and services but not the phones, lol.
HD2 officially announced for T-Mo yesterday, so at the very least, that's an option. It's not on Sprint though (although T-Mo plan is on par with Sprint's).
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HD2 officially announced for T-Mo yesterday, so at the very least, that's an option. It's not on Sprint though (although T-Mo plan is on par with Sprint's).
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yeah but coverage sucks where i live.
OP, you should try Android if you haven't... once I made the move to Android, I never looked back at WinMo. No regrets.
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OP, you should try Android if you haven't... once I made the move to Android, I never looked back at WinMo. No regrets.
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lol, i love android; i dual boot my sprint diamond with WinMo-6.5.3 and android eclair. it's just that for some weird reason i feel attracted by WinCE, lol. seriously i don't want to give up on WinMo yet i find it fun to use and so far it does everything i need.
I am looking forward that HTC will release the EVO 4G in Win6.5.xx version very much soon. I am using TD2 and TP2 but the HD2 turns me off. One of the reason why I am not interested at all with HD2 was because the HD2 do not have front camera and support dual screen video call which I use all the time over here. And the other reason for me staying away from Android phone is because I can't hacked the Garmin Mobile XT for my AGPS needs at the moment.
This EVO4G has the optimum hardware but I really need the OS and softwares for my needs.
Does anyone knows how to install Garmin Mobile XT on this EVO4G?
winmo is going the way of the Dodo in my opinion...and the OP not liking sprint phones? they are going to thave the first 4G device in the country, and have some of the best phones on the market...what's not to like?
Chad
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winmo is going the way of the Dodo in my opinion...and the OP not liking sprint phones? they are going to thave the first 4G device in the country, and have some of the best phones on the market...what's not to like?
Chad
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true that but again compared to other carriers their phone lineup kind of sucks, all i wanted was a variant of the tp2 without the keyboard maybe a sprint version of the whitestone but they went big with a 4g hd2 running android, where is the love for winmo users?
The 4g is entirely in the soft ware.
So with this phone if you put winmo on it you wouldnt get the 4g.
No android, no 4g.
It is hard enough to port Android to a winmo device, let alone the other way around!
Not going to happen
Sorry dude but Microsoft is shutting down all windows mobile related operations soon,even they realize it is time to move on. Plus when the xdandroid project started, they already had harret to work with. I dont know of any simmalar software for android. Another barrier you will face is the fact that windows mobile is not open source where as android is. But the main reason you wont see it being worked to heavily on is the face that no one realy wants windows mobile as an operating system anymore. For example I was proud to have a Touch Pro back when the iPhone 3G came out. I pointed out all the flaws to my friends and they went off and used one of their apps to help them pout. However, android is now almost a modern version of windows mobile, there realy isnt anything you can do on windows mobile that you cant do on android. (except boot non-native OSs )
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In light of today's hd2 wp7s news dare we hope for a phone that could boot all three? Could that even remotely be possible?
Bounty
I'm a WM6 power user. I've tried Android, but i prefer WM call it what you want. It may be a dead or eyesore to most but i would not buy any phone w/o WM6.5.x. I'm willing to pay for a rom that would intall WM6.5 to the EVO. I think i'm not the only one.
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I'm a WM6 power user. I've tried Android, but i prefer WM call it what you want. It may be a dead or eyesore to most but i would not buy any phone w/o WM6.5.x. I'm willing to pay for a rom that would intall WM6.5 to the EVO. I think i'm not the only one.
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You're not the only one!
Count me in!!!
I am in the transition process from sprint/tp2 to tmobile/hd2 myself. I am still within my 14 days buyer's remorse period, and still undecided whether or not I am going to keep the HD2 and say goodbye to Sprint.
For some reason, I feel like the HD2 is going to be the last great (or at least comparable---HW specs-wise) WinMo6.5 device. BUt at the same time, I think that *IF* any device is going to be able to TRIPLE boot OS's...its probably going to be the HD2! An android port I think is inevitable, and WP7 port i think is highly probable...especially considering all the geniuses we have around here @XDA! *Crosses Fingers*
Some would say my paying full price for a device with a "dying OS" is silly...especially with the Evo just around the corner!!! But Android is not something I am ready for or comfortable with right now. I like the idea behind the OS, but i do not like or appreciate it's execution, invasiveness nor immaturity. And I dont even wanna get started on the degradation that is WP7!
I was fooling myself that I got great phone, but I am done as of now... windows mobile is a piece of broken, plastered together laggy piece of ****. No miracle ROM is going to change that. I have spent $350 on a piece of garbage. I am waiting for a Iphone 4G and going to buy some more AAPL shares. Thanks to all the Chefs and great community here for at least trying to make this miserable phone work a little bit better.
Good luck everybody
Ex Rhodium owner
How long did you have your device? I know your tired of it but Athine OS ROM may give it a fresh breath.
Why Apple? I mean that Sh*& is SOO locked down! you will likely have to jailbrake it to as much as tether(simular on windows/android but you dont have to boot connected to black box or PC)
And i do sympathize with you about WinMo it is laggy out of the box. myself I enjoy tweaking and learning how it ticks.
However if i may i would like to suggest the evo 4g. its android. people who know know. you know?
my beef with apple is while i like my apple II C i did not pay for it and ill never give them a cent. good luck running flash with Iphone 4g as they pissed off adobe and simply wont support it out of the box.
Now as for Windows Phone 7 thats just garbage! its so sad to see the HD3 coming out with that. poor thing wont be able to multi task or copy/paste!
Now I only use windows on a PC when I absolutely HAVE to other than that im on Linux.
The evo 4g and iphone 4g will debut around the same time (June/2010) and HD3 will come out when it does, i dont remember when.
In summary it cool to have beef with Microsoft but go Linux(Android) first NOT Apple!!
Thats my vent thanks if you read it have a great day
I have had my phone for 9 months. Long enough to express my opinion. Rhodium is great phone, best keyboard I have seen. You said that WinMo is great for tweaking, but I need my phone to work, funny that is has been advertised a business phone.
I don't want to tweak it, I want it to work. I need to take pictures wile on the job, email or MMS them to my partner, listen to streaming music while traveling between the work sites and use calendar. Is it too much to ask ? I have tried to use use iphone for week, it just works, I can do everything... no stress UI just flows, fast responsive, emailing taking pictures and listenig to online radio , everything working right out of the box. Paypal, grooveshark they dont even have applications for WinMo.... this OS is falling into obscurity and they don't want to put their applications on it. I feel like an imbecile that i fell work "business" marketing garbage. I will definitely look into evo 4g, but I am not going back to WinMo. Anybody wants to buy a Rhodium ?
Not that my suggestion will make any difference, but if you want a plain phone that just works throw HTC Sense into the virtual recycle bin...HTC sense is much more for multimedia than business. There are some great WinMo apps that spruce up the basic today screen to give you quick links. You can also try out Titanium, which a lot of people have done some cool UI stuff with.
You can actually download nanoshark, which I believe is a UI to interact with grooveshark. I've also found (not tested) a paypal software for WinMo in one search: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-paypal-mobile-by-smarttouch.html
At the end of the day, it seems those who throw in the towels have made up their mind day 1. Best of luck w/ your next phone and I really do hope you think twice about over paying and lining apples pocket.
I had same feelings as you...... BUT!!
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I was fooling myself that I got great phone, but I am done as of now... windows mobile is a piece of broken, plastered together laggy piece of ****. No miracle ROM is going to change that. I have spent $350 on a piece of garbage. I am waiting for a Iphone 4G and going to buy some more AAPL shares. Thanks to all the Chefs and great community here for at least trying to make this miserable phone work a little bit better.
Good luck everybody
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I bought my Tilt2 and had it about 6 months and was sick about how it preformed in every way. I taught myself how to flash ROM's by reading forum after forum after forum. Thanks to all the guys on this forum that has made me proud to be an owner of a Tilt2. There are many great ROM's here to try but if you only have time to try just one, please try valkyrie.ftp v6.2.25009TR2.5 you will love your phone. In my area my internet speeds are better than any iPhone I have came across. I take them to mobilespeedtest.com and they are like ... dang man ... now what kind of phone did you say you had. lol Trust me man, b4 you sell your phone or trade it off, try this ROM and let the fun begin ....... been there ..... now loving my Tilt2 .... good luck!!!
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bombastus said:
I was fooling myself that I got great phone, but I am done as of now... windows mobile is a piece of broken, plastered together laggy piece of ****. No miracle ROM is going to change that. I have spent $350 on a piece of garbage. I am waiting for a Iphone 4G and going to buy some more AAPL shares. Thanks to all the Chefs and great community here for at least trying to make this miserable phone work a little bit better.
Good luck everybody
Ex Rhodium owner
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if anything go with the EVO 4g...it blows iphone 4g out da water..plus it has two cams for video conferencing and a 4.3 in. AMOLED capacitive touchscreen with pinch to zoom. plus the new wimax frequencies. or that new dell thunder coming out is looking pretty hot right now.
sorry to hear about ur bad experience with WM. after doing the various fixes and patches, my device NEVER lags on the TF3d UI or while in wm. everything works..can easily do all the stuff u said iphone 4g can do with no problems. fixes/patches meaning: memory leak mod, sd tune up, no push internet, dynamic proxy, deleted bloatware, plus my AtmDng 3d driver helps alot.
im due for an official upgrade from at&t. ima eventually let my girl have this one. i want a bigger screen...lol there are some powerhouse devices about to drop this summer and fall. this rhodium is just my training grounds for future devices. i got this as a warranty replacement for my original kaiser/tilt, since they stop makin them or whatever.. wrked out good for me..lol the phone now is a million times better and faster thn when i took it out the box. Go XDA
The Iphone/ipods are designed that anyone from the age of 3 years to 90 years old can pick it up and just use it. Which is great... BUT when you want to do something with it it wasnt originally intended to do you have to wait for their "official updates" or jailbreak your phone which alot of mac-aholics are nervous about. The great thing I have seen about windows phones is dev's have actually developed ways to get the phones up to par with newer models without having to flash and void warranties. This I realized very quickly when I moved from palm to htc and had my Vogue. I was able to get TF2D working on that before TF2D was even released. Now if you still have the Vogue you can actually have it working as a fully fledged android device!
The Touch Pro and Touch Pro 2 were the same. Right now you don't even need to have to flash a custom rom to get sense 2.5 running anymore. They have that all cabbed up for us (mind you I still flash.) Taking programs from other phones and tweaking them to work on ours seems to work fairly easy as well.
You can't do HALF the things possible with the iphones you can do with even the most basic windows mobile phone. The phone thing I thought the Iphone had that was better then the touch pro was the screen size. However, the display resolution was just garbage. That was quickly fixed with the Touch Pro 2 I would say.
Basically think of the Iphone like an automatic car..... then windows mobile phones are more like standard/stick cars. You have more control over what the "Car" can do and when... you can tweak its performance to better suit whatever your need might be.
If you like the Iphone interface guess what... you can download a skin that mimic's it almost exactly!!!
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Anybody wants to buy a Rhodium ?
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Hey! I do !
The Iphone/ipods are designed that anyone from the age of 3 years to 90 years old can pick it up and just use it. Which is great... BUT when you want to do something with it it wasnt originally intended to do you have to wait for their "official updates" or jailbreak your phone which alot of mac-aholics are nervous about. The great thing I have seen about windows phones is dev's have actually developed ways to get the phones up to par with newer models without having to flash and void warranties. This I realized very quickly when I moved from palm to htc and had my Vogue. I was able to get TF2D working on that before TF2D was even released. Now if you still have the Vogue you can actually have it working as a fully fledged android device!
The Touch Pro and Touch Pro 2 were the same. Right now you don't even need to have to flash a custom rom to get sense 2.5 running anymore. They have that all cabbed up for us (mind you I still flash.) Taking programs from other phones and tweaking them to work on ours seems to work fairly easy as well.
You can't do HALF the things possible with the iphones you can do with even the most basic windows mobile phone. The phone thing I thought the Iphone had that was better then the touch pro was the screen size. However, the display resolution was just garbage. That was quickly fixed with the Touch Pro 2 I would say.
Basically think of the Iphone like an automatic car..... then windows mobile phones are more like standard/stick cars. You have more control over what the "Car" can do and when... you can tweak its performance to better suit whatever your need might be.
If you like the Iphone interface guess what... you can download a skin that mimic's it almost exactly!!!
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good analogy..on wm like a manual/stick
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I know what you mean, execpt for me it is just the opposite. I got my Tilt 2 after I threw my iPhone across the room because you can't do a damn thing with it unless you jailbreak it and then it never is quiet right. I have a Samsung that is goatbreaked and a Motorola that is modded and now I am learning this Windows Mobile stuff. It is fun and most of the stuff I try actually works. Go figure!!! LoL !!! anyway I guess that is my two cents and to each his own. Good luck with your iPhone if it fits your needs. - Take care
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I don't want to tweak it, I want it to work. I need to take pictures wile on the job, email or MMS them to my partner, listen to streaming music while traveling between the work sites and use calendar. Is it too much to ask ?
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All of these things worked just fine for me out of the box on my ATT Tilt2, and that stock ROM has been blasted as the worst, most bloated version.
And what is so hard about taking pictures with the TP2? Its simple and works great. And low-light photos on the iPhone are absolutely aweful on the iPhone. In a side-by-comparison, indoor low light photos on the TP2 blow away the iPhone.
Going from the TP2 to the iPhone is one end of the spectrum to the other. I'll agree that if you don't like to tweak and customize, than the TP2 is probably not for you. And the iPhone is about as customizable as a microwave oven.
I still love my Cricket flashed TP2 (Sprint) and enjoy customizing it in fact. Very flexible like the HD2 and the keyboard is still one of the best in the industry. Anyone still using theirs today?
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I still love my Cricket flashed TP2 (Sprint) and enjoy customizing it in fact. Very flexible like the HD2 and the keyboard is still one of the best in the industry. Anyone still using theirs today?
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I wish I still had mine I miss it so much
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What's an iPhone?
Hell yeah I still use mine. It still does everything I want to do and its not the run of the mill phones of today.
Next up is taking it to europe for a couple weeks, swapping the sim card and still enjoying it there...
I would still use mine if I did not switch to Verizon.
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I still have mine too. I had to turn off that stupid slow Sence, but with Titanium is Rhodium fast and working great. And it does all what I need My lovely Rhodium.
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I still love my Cricket flashed TP2 (Sprint) and enjoy customizing it in fact. Very flexible like the HD2 and the keyboard is still one of the best in the industry. Anyone still using theirs today?
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I do! =)
(RhodiumW, sprint version)
This piece of Krapp Fone (yes with a K), its freakin slooooooooooooooowwwww. I use to think iphone 3G's was inferior back in 09. I still have my rhodium I honestly would love to use my sledge hammer, and cripple the dam thing!!! but if i can make $50 bucks of it, I'll be happier. couldn't stand memory leak issue with Windows mobile. Gladly, I am in the Samsung Galaxy S2 scene now, where there is not such thing as slowdowns.
HTC Rhodium, I REGRET YOU and DENOUNCE that you were ever my phone!
Same here. I still use my TP2 like it was brand new. I'm not parting with it until it dies. It does everything I need it to, and does it fairly quickly. Sure I can get an Arrive or a droid phone with a Ghz CPU, but I'd lose all the tweaks and programs I have amassed over the last year and a half. Screw that. Co0kies Home Tab still rules the roost round here!
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Same here. I still use my TP2 like it was brand new. I'm not parting with it until it dies. It does everything I need it to, and does it fairly quickly. Sure I can get an Arrive or a droid phone with a Ghz CPU, but I'd lose all the tweaks and programs I have amassed over the last year and a half. Screw that. Co0kies Home Tab still rules the roost round here!
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A month ago I would've agreed with you. But now that I finally got an Android native phone, I could never go back. You think there a lot of customizations with winmo and CHT, take that times 100 and you have Android. The things you can do is off the charts. You'll know what I mean when you finally move on from your TP2.
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This piece of Krapp Fone (yes with a K), its freakin slooooooooooooooowwwww. I use to think iphone 3G's was inferior back in 09. I still have my rhodium I honestly would love to use my sledge hammer, and cripple the dam thing!!! but if i can make $50 bucks of it, I'll be happier. couldn't stand memory leak issue with Windows mobile. Gladly, I am in the Samsung Galaxy S2 scene now, where there is not such thing as slowdowns.
HTC Rhodium, I REGRET YOU and DENOUNCE that you were ever my phone!
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i totally agree with you. this phone has caused me nothing but trouble in the longrun. it was quite good for a short period of time. ive just got myself a samsung galaxy s2 myself and there is no effin way im going back to tp2 ever. this phone i have now is crazily fast, there's truly no competition whatsoever (even an older android phone would beat the tp2).
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i totally agree with you. this phone has caused me nothing but trouble in the longrun. it was quite good for a short period of time. ive just got myself a samsung galaxy s2 myself and there is no effin way im going back to tp2 ever. this phone i have now is crazily fast, there's truly no competition whatsoever (even an older android phone would beat the tp2).
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I agree. Many think the Rhodium and winmo is the end all be all of customizability... but things have changed.
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I agree. Many think the Rhodium and winmo is the end all be all of customizability... but things have changed.
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Had tp2 for two years. Beautiful phone aesthecally unbeatable keyboard. The mistake I made was upgrading to Sense. The phone was never designed to run sense....slowed it down completely. Also it began to have random shut downs and crashes with Sense. It was irritating to have to install apps like Clean Ram in order to rescue my phone from crashing and keep it workable each day.
The straw that broke the camels back was when youtube hq video support for tp2 stopped.....it finally hit home that I had an aging phone that was unable to keep up with the times....a phone that youtube and adobe flash were now overlooking. Windows mobile had had its day it seemed. As such, it was time to put my tp2 in my 'museum' drawer along with my htc diamond and old ipaq.
I switched to a phone that was ahead of the times and might provide at least two years of futureproof peace of mind due to its specs...samsung gs2. Android is the future imho. I still occasionally use my htc hero without any problems - bar the smallish screen...
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I agree. Many think the Rhodium and winmo is the end all be all of customizability... but things have changed.
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Yup, with Android you get the customization options, and you also get an OS that actually works and has a ton of good software. If you need to stay with WinMo for personal reasons, then its tolerable. But if you compare Winmo to Android side to side, there is no contest.
I believe you. I've been using the Tilt 2 for a long time now, and I was waiting for DFT's Android NAND to be out but I gave up waiting last week. It's been lying around for a week without a sim card in it and still has battery life left. It's been running for a week on standby without charging. I moved to the Galaxy S, but I still love the TP2. Great phone it is. I will use it to test if they do come out with a proper android ROM for it.
Still using mine. All love love with it.
Im still using mine. My wife upgraded from the touch pro to the arrive running windows 7. It is nice but I still prefer 6.5. I would like a better camera and some sort of d pad to allow one hand use but still have not found a replacement. The xperia x2 looked perfect but it is not available in the US and I would have to switch to ATaT because it is GSM. I love the tp2 and it does almost everything I want. I use it with the stock rom and spb mobile shell. It allows me to customize the phone exactly how I like it.
My precious....
After running an old Kaiser with a very stable ROM for the last 2 years I "upgraded" my equipment with tp2, which I ever wanted to have. Must say, the Keyboard is great, don't wanna miss it any more! But WM 6.5 is a hard experience...
Till now I've fought over 3 months with this phone! It's such a brilliant concept of a phone, why is it so hard to get it stable??? I think I've tried out nearly any german ROM out in the field, including Energy Rom and the original one from HTC, not a single one was without a bug! The only thing I want it is to be stable, smooth and, well, just working!
Now I stay with the original Stock ROM, by now it seems to be stable, but memory using is a monster, and the phone slows down over the day.
And, after all, I also think of leaving good old WM and change to Androiid, but all I can read is that syncing Android with all my Data in Outlook via USB is also such a tricky job like using ActiveSync...
Has anyone here experience in that?
I have mine for now a year. I dont understand why HTC started to screw their Touch and Type phones. If you look in past, if you buyed a HTC with full qwerty, you became much faster phone than only Touch. Last better Touch and Type was Touch pro. If you compare witch Diamond, it had more Ram. From this point the Touch and type had worse hardware. I dont understand why they made Touch pro 2 with hardware from Touch pro. It was old and in that year came HTC touch HD2 with Snapdragon. So why Touch pro 2 didnt became also? This is only thing what i miss on this phone.
But... i had now for 2 days HTC Desire. I know, it had overheating issue, but i made some tricks to made it working I tryed and i must say, AMOLED, camera, speed, android was the hammer. There are only 2 reason i wouldnt buy one for common use. Absent full qwerty and my TP2 still do all i want. I would miss my 5 row keyboard :-D So still, TP2 is still numero uno for me ;-)