Flash WinMo 6.x.x to EVO - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
i know is too early to say but do you guys think we would be able to override the android partition with a winmo 6.x install?
me personally i think that device is wonderful according to the specs and pictures I've seen but again i love WinMo i cant see myself without it. i ditched the TP2 from sprint waiting for a snapdragon WinMo phone but that doesn't seem to be the case now since they've announced the EVO running on Android. Android is one heck of an OS but i preferred WinMO 6.x series, not even WinP 7 Series it is cool and all that but i don't think i'm ready to drop WinMo 6.x or Windows Phone Classic just yet.
i know it is almost impossible because of CDMA drivers support.
what do you think guys ?

Do you have an HD2? If not, buy one of those instead. If you do, then apart from the 8MP camera and the extra memory, you already have the WinMo version of it.

DexyG said:
Do you have an HD2? If not, buy one of those instead. If you do, then apart from the 8MP camera and the extra memory, you already have the WinMo version of it.
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No indication that there's going to be an HD2 that runs on Sprint in the US. I would say there's a 0% chance that anyone will put WM 6.5 on the EVO, due to hardware compatibility and (frankly) a lack of interest.

I would love winmo on my future Evo, but I agree the effort involved would be immense and for very little return.

thanks for your responses guys, all of them make sense but again this was from a personal point of view, i just can't spend $500 for a device with ancient specs and with a keyboard, when there is a HD2 with WinMo around there that cost the same but GSM counterpart not CDMA(sprint). my dilemma here is leave or not leave sprint, i love sprint Plans and services but not the phones, lol.

HD2 officially announced for T-Mo yesterday, so at the very least, that's an option. It's not on Sprint though (although T-Mo plan is on par with Sprint's).

MI_canuck said:
HD2 officially announced for T-Mo yesterday, so at the very least, that's an option. It's not on Sprint though (although T-Mo plan is on par with Sprint's).
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yeah but coverage sucks where i live.

OP, you should try Android if you haven't... once I made the move to Android, I never looked back at WinMo. No regrets.

Jye75 said:
OP, you should try Android if you haven't... once I made the move to Android, I never looked back at WinMo. No regrets.
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lol, i love android; i dual boot my sprint diamond with WinMo-6.5.3 and android eclair. it's just that for some weird reason i feel attracted by WinCE, lol. seriously i don't want to give up on WinMo yet i find it fun to use and so far it does everything i need.

I am looking forward that HTC will release the EVO 4G in Win6.5.xx version very much soon. I am using TD2 and TP2 but the HD2 turns me off. One of the reason why I am not interested at all with HD2 was because the HD2 do not have front camera and support dual screen video call which I use all the time over here. And the other reason for me staying away from Android phone is because I can't hacked the Garmin Mobile XT for my AGPS needs at the moment.
This EVO4G has the optimum hardware but I really need the OS and softwares for my needs.
Does anyone knows how to install Garmin Mobile XT on this EVO4G?

winmo is going the way of the Dodo in my opinion...and the OP not liking sprint phones? they are going to thave the first 4G device in the country, and have some of the best phones on the market...what's not to like?
Chad

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winmo is going the way of the Dodo in my opinion...and the OP not liking sprint phones? they are going to thave the first 4G device in the country, and have some of the best phones on the market...what's not to like?
Chad
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true that but again compared to other carriers their phone lineup kind of sucks, all i wanted was a variant of the tp2 without the keyboard maybe a sprint version of the whitestone but they went big with a 4g hd2 running android, where is the love for winmo users?

The 4g is entirely in the soft ware.
So with this phone if you put winmo on it you wouldnt get the 4g.
No android, no 4g.

It is hard enough to port Android to a winmo device, let alone the other way around!

Not going to happen
Sorry dude but Microsoft is shutting down all windows mobile related operations soon,even they realize it is time to move on. Plus when the xdandroid project started, they already had harret to work with. I dont know of any simmalar software for android. Another barrier you will face is the fact that windows mobile is not open source where as android is. But the main reason you wont see it being worked to heavily on is the face that no one realy wants windows mobile as an operating system anymore. For example I was proud to have a Touch Pro back when the iPhone 3G came out. I pointed out all the flaws to my friends and they went off and used one of their apps to help them pout. However, android is now almost a modern version of windows mobile, there realy isnt anything you can do on windows mobile that you cant do on android. (except boot non-native OSs )

triboot
In light of today's hd2 wp7s news dare we hope for a phone that could boot all three? Could that even remotely be possible?

Bounty
I'm a WM6 power user. I've tried Android, but i prefer WM call it what you want. It may be a dead or eyesore to most but i would not buy any phone w/o WM6.5.x. I'm willing to pay for a rom that would intall WM6.5 to the EVO. I think i'm not the only one.

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I'm a WM6 power user. I've tried Android, but i prefer WM call it what you want. It may be a dead or eyesore to most but i would not buy any phone w/o WM6.5.x. I'm willing to pay for a rom that would intall WM6.5 to the EVO. I think i'm not the only one.
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You're not the only one!

Count me in!!!

I am in the transition process from sprint/tp2 to tmobile/hd2 myself. I am still within my 14 days buyer's remorse period, and still undecided whether or not I am going to keep the HD2 and say goodbye to Sprint.
For some reason, I feel like the HD2 is going to be the last great (or at least comparable---HW specs-wise) WinMo6.5 device. BUt at the same time, I think that *IF* any device is going to be able to TRIPLE boot OS's...its probably going to be the HD2! An android port I think is inevitable, and WP7 port i think is highly probable...especially considering all the geniuses we have around here @XDA! *Crosses Fingers*
Some would say my paying full price for a device with a "dying OS" is silly...especially with the Evo just around the corner!!! But Android is not something I am ready for or comfortable with right now. I like the idea behind the OS, but i do not like or appreciate it's execution, invasiveness nor immaturity. And I dont even wanna get started on the degradation that is WP7!

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What Phone Will Make You Ditch Your Touch Pro 2 For Good?

Ive Had My Touch Pro 2 For A Year And Some Change. Ive Had Some Fun Modding And Androidding It (LOL) But Its Time For Me To Move On To A Faster Phone That Will Take On WinMo 7 And Have A Business Phone On The Side. I Will Be Moving Over To The HTC Leo Forum (HTC HD 2) Next Week When T-Mobile Releases It And I Will Have A BB 9000 As My Backup.How Many Of You Are Moving On Soon? And To What Phone/PDA? Will You Keep Your Touch Pro 2 As A Backup? Yes? No? Why?
charlieb620 said:
Ive Had My Touch Pro 2 For A Year And Some Change. Ive Had Some Fun Modding And Androidding It (LOL) But Its Time For Me To Move On To A Faster Phone That Will Take On WinMo 7 And Have A Business Phone On The Side. I Will Be Moving Over To The HTC Leo Forum (HTC HD 2) Next Week When T-Mobile Releases It And I Will Have A BB 9000 As My Backup.How Many Of You Are Moving On Soon? And To What Phone/PDA? Will You Keep Your Touch Pro 2 As A Backup? Yes? No? Why?
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No matter what phone I move to and when, the one thing I'm going to hold on to is the keyboard from my TP2....I fully intend to frankenstein it onto any device I may use in the future
Point being....I won't be changing devices until (unless) somebody releases another WM unit with specs at least as strong as the HD2, AND a keyboard as good as the TP2's. 'Till then, I'll be happily thumb-dancing away, Rhodium-style!!
Touch Pro Keyboard With HD Screen
sirphunkee said:
No matter what phone I move to and when, the one thing I'm going to hold on to is the keyboard from my TP2....I fully intend to frankenstein it onto any device I may use in the future
Point being....I won't be changing devices until (unless) somebody releases another WM unit with specs at least as strong as the HD2, AND a keyboard as good as the TP2's. 'Till then, I'll be happily thumb-dancing away, Rhodium-style!!
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Me And My Friend Was Talking Yesterday And He Said He Wants The Touch Pro 3 To Be The HD2 Screen/Specs With The Touch Pro 2 Keyboard. I Think That Would Make Me Come Back. But The Touch Pro 2 Is Not Fast Enough For Me. I Wish It Could Be Overclocked.
HTC Desire already preordered...
I'll certainly miss the awesome hardware keyboard and tilting screen.
Problem with the TP2 is not the hardware for me. It's just WinMo. I've been on this platform ever since my Touch Dual a couple years ago and I know it's very capable. But the platform is outdated.
I hope WinMo7 turns out to be as revolutionary as M$ claims it will be. In the meantime, I'll be jumping ship to Android for now...
The Nexus One did it. I sold my X1 for a tilt2 after the t-mobile only Nexus one was announced. It took about 45 minutes for me to pick up one of the AT&T Nexus Ones after it was announced today. I've been running Android recently to see how I liked it, and it wins for me over WinMo.
I'm willing to adopt any Windows Phone Series 7, keyboard or not. I say calm down on all the phones now, b/c the whole landscape as we know it will be changed by 1/1/11..
but yeah, this elusive TP3 would be nice..since a WPS7 phone can have a keyboard as seen by the LG, hopefully they're holding off for that..
im going to consider an hd2 in the future. i was thinking to get it much sooner, but ill wait a bit for the prices to come down. the tmo version has a really low price and should lower the price of the t9193. if i do, i will miss the keyboard and the speaker. but damn, that screen. it could make an iphone user commit suicide.
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it could make an iphone user commit suicide.
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That could only be proven with thorough, extensive testing. And then more testing. In fact, here, let me give you a hand with that
I am actually considering the AT&T compatible Nexus One. If it had a keyboard I wouldn't have to even think about it.
I am torn between the HD2 and the Desire. I haven't given up on WinMo yet, although I am disheartened by what I have seen of Windows Phone 7.
I also have a Toshiba TG01 which, although a flawed device, has convinced me that my next phone must have a 1GHz Snapdragon or better.
HD2
I definitely need something with a little more processor, so I've been thinking about the HD2. I will miss the keyboard some, but I've got so used to using swype, I don't think I'll miss it that much.
I really like my TP2, but I've even more so loved the Android OS - even though it doesn't totally work. If I could get an Android OS phone, with front cam, back cam, wifi, BT, FM radio w/ RDS, and a physical kb, I'd sell the TP2 in a heartbeat. I'm so over the winmo OS, and the new microsoft version doesn't look any better. Android OS please!
I love my Rhodium tooooooooo much to move onto another device.
When the time comes to renew my contract I'll probably get an HD2.
But I'll use my Rhodium as a phone. And the HD2 as a toy
i like my tp2. but as soon as us cellular gets something with more speed and not windows 7. ill be jumping ship. prob to android. ive read all the findings at mix 10 on windows 7. and i will be goin to android. windows 7 looks great. but its lockd down. and all they stopped us from doing with it. its not worth the wait. so bye bye wmo.
T-Mo HD2 next week will be replacing my TP2 which replaced my G1 which replaced my Wing.
Looks like a 6 month cycle.
I wish VZW would come out w/ the HD2...I might go with the Nexus one or this thing:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Saygus-Vphone-phone-pa_4463.html
I also like the HTC Incredible for vzw, it looks like HD2 hardware w/ android. Most likely i'll keep the keyboard and go w/ a saygus if anything (although chances are I wont get a new phone)
I keep looking at the Droid. Figure I'll wait a few months, see what shakes out with (if) the 6.5 update, and then move over to the Droid. I'm out of contract now with Sprint, and they don't seem particularly to care if people leave.
I am getting the HD2 for sure, I will keep my TP2 just to mess around with it but I have tested the Tmo HD2 a few times at my local store and I love it. I am just watching the time tick by until next Wednesday and I will be joining you in the NRG HD2 forum
TP3 only!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have until Summer 2011 before I can upgrade my Touch Pro 2, bear in mind though I kept my Tytn II for 3 and a half years because nothing else fitted form factor wise. I like the fact my screen tilts and the keyboard is phenomenal. It may be a while after my upgrade date it may not be, not forgetting that by then WP7 Series should have fixed all the alleged release issues such as no multi-tasking and no copy and paste, no side loading 3rd party apps, no full USB connectivity, no sd card loading......the list of faults with WP7 series so far is shocking.

No need to read... I am just gonna vent a little

I was fooling myself that I got great phone, but I am done as of now... windows mobile is a piece of broken, plastered together laggy piece of ****. No miracle ROM is going to change that. I have spent $350 on a piece of garbage. I am waiting for a Iphone 4G and going to buy some more AAPL shares. Thanks to all the Chefs and great community here for at least trying to make this miserable phone work a little bit better.
Good luck everybody
Ex Rhodium owner
How long did you have your device? I know your tired of it but Athine OS ROM may give it a fresh breath.
Why Apple? I mean that Sh*& is SOO locked down! you will likely have to jailbrake it to as much as tether(simular on windows/android but you dont have to boot connected to black box or PC)
And i do sympathize with you about WinMo it is laggy out of the box. myself I enjoy tweaking and learning how it ticks.
However if i may i would like to suggest the evo 4g. its android. people who know know. you know?
my beef with apple is while i like my apple II C i did not pay for it and ill never give them a cent. good luck running flash with Iphone 4g as they pissed off adobe and simply wont support it out of the box.
Now as for Windows Phone 7 thats just garbage! its so sad to see the HD3 coming out with that. poor thing wont be able to multi task or copy/paste!
Now I only use windows on a PC when I absolutely HAVE to other than that im on Linux.
The evo 4g and iphone 4g will debut around the same time (June/2010) and HD3 will come out when it does, i dont remember when.
In summary it cool to have beef with Microsoft but go Linux(Android) first NOT Apple!!
Thats my vent thanks if you read it have a great day
I have had my phone for 9 months. Long enough to express my opinion. Rhodium is great phone, best keyboard I have seen. You said that WinMo is great for tweaking, but I need my phone to work, funny that is has been advertised a business phone.
I don't want to tweak it, I want it to work. I need to take pictures wile on the job, email or MMS them to my partner, listen to streaming music while traveling between the work sites and use calendar. Is it too much to ask ? I have tried to use use iphone for week, it just works, I can do everything... no stress UI just flows, fast responsive, emailing taking pictures and listenig to online radio , everything working right out of the box. Paypal, grooveshark they dont even have applications for WinMo.... this OS is falling into obscurity and they don't want to put their applications on it. I feel like an imbecile that i fell work "business" marketing garbage. I will definitely look into evo 4g, but I am not going back to WinMo. Anybody wants to buy a Rhodium ?
Not that my suggestion will make any difference, but if you want a plain phone that just works throw HTC Sense into the virtual recycle bin...HTC sense is much more for multimedia than business. There are some great WinMo apps that spruce up the basic today screen to give you quick links. You can also try out Titanium, which a lot of people have done some cool UI stuff with.
You can actually download nanoshark, which I believe is a UI to interact with grooveshark. I've also found (not tested) a paypal software for WinMo in one search: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-paypal-mobile-by-smarttouch.html
At the end of the day, it seems those who throw in the towels have made up their mind day 1. Best of luck w/ your next phone and I really do hope you think twice about over paying and lining apples pocket.
I had same feelings as you...... BUT!!
bombastus said:
I was fooling myself that I got great phone, but I am done as of now... windows mobile is a piece of broken, plastered together laggy piece of ****. No miracle ROM is going to change that. I have spent $350 on a piece of garbage. I am waiting for a Iphone 4G and going to buy some more AAPL shares. Thanks to all the Chefs and great community here for at least trying to make this miserable phone work a little bit better.
Good luck everybody
Ex Rhodium owner[/
I bought my Tilt2 and had it about 6 months and was sick about how it preformed in every way. I taught myself how to flash ROM's by reading forum after forum after forum. Thanks to all the guys on this forum that has made me proud to be an owner of a Tilt2. There are many great ROM's here to try but if you only have time to try just one, please try valkyrie.ftp v6.2.25009TR2.5 you will love your phone. In my area my internet speeds are better than any iPhone I have came across. I take them to mobilespeedtest.com and they are like ... dang man ... now what kind of phone did you say you had. lol Trust me man, b4 you sell your phone or trade it off, try this ROM and let the fun begin ....... been there ..... now loving my Tilt2 .... good luck!!!
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bombastus said:
I was fooling myself that I got great phone, but I am done as of now... windows mobile is a piece of broken, plastered together laggy piece of ****. No miracle ROM is going to change that. I have spent $350 on a piece of garbage. I am waiting for a Iphone 4G and going to buy some more AAPL shares. Thanks to all the Chefs and great community here for at least trying to make this miserable phone work a little bit better.
Good luck everybody
Ex Rhodium owner
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if anything go with the EVO 4g...it blows iphone 4g out da water..plus it has two cams for video conferencing and a 4.3 in. AMOLED capacitive touchscreen with pinch to zoom. plus the new wimax frequencies. or that new dell thunder coming out is looking pretty hot right now.
sorry to hear about ur bad experience with WM. after doing the various fixes and patches, my device NEVER lags on the TF3d UI or while in wm. everything works..can easily do all the stuff u said iphone 4g can do with no problems. fixes/patches meaning: memory leak mod, sd tune up, no push internet, dynamic proxy, deleted bloatware, plus my AtmDng 3d driver helps alot.
im due for an official upgrade from at&t. ima eventually let my girl have this one. i want a bigger screen...lol there are some powerhouse devices about to drop this summer and fall. this rhodium is just my training grounds for future devices. i got this as a warranty replacement for my original kaiser/tilt, since they stop makin them or whatever.. wrked out good for me..lol the phone now is a million times better and faster thn when i took it out the box. Go XDA
The Iphone/ipods are designed that anyone from the age of 3 years to 90 years old can pick it up and just use it. Which is great... BUT when you want to do something with it it wasnt originally intended to do you have to wait for their "official updates" or jailbreak your phone which alot of mac-aholics are nervous about. The great thing I have seen about windows phones is dev's have actually developed ways to get the phones up to par with newer models without having to flash and void warranties. This I realized very quickly when I moved from palm to htc and had my Vogue. I was able to get TF2D working on that before TF2D was even released. Now if you still have the Vogue you can actually have it working as a fully fledged android device!
The Touch Pro and Touch Pro 2 were the same. Right now you don't even need to have to flash a custom rom to get sense 2.5 running anymore. They have that all cabbed up for us (mind you I still flash.) Taking programs from other phones and tweaking them to work on ours seems to work fairly easy as well.
You can't do HALF the things possible with the iphones you can do with even the most basic windows mobile phone. The phone thing I thought the Iphone had that was better then the touch pro was the screen size. However, the display resolution was just garbage. That was quickly fixed with the Touch Pro 2 I would say.
Basically think of the Iphone like an automatic car..... then windows mobile phones are more like standard/stick cars. You have more control over what the "Car" can do and when... you can tweak its performance to better suit whatever your need might be.
If you like the Iphone interface guess what... you can download a skin that mimic's it almost exactly!!!
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Anybody wants to buy a Rhodium ?
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Hey! I do !
The Iphone/ipods are designed that anyone from the age of 3 years to 90 years old can pick it up and just use it. Which is great... BUT when you want to do something with it it wasnt originally intended to do you have to wait for their "official updates" or jailbreak your phone which alot of mac-aholics are nervous about. The great thing I have seen about windows phones is dev's have actually developed ways to get the phones up to par with newer models without having to flash and void warranties. This I realized very quickly when I moved from palm to htc and had my Vogue. I was able to get TF2D working on that before TF2D was even released. Now if you still have the Vogue you can actually have it working as a fully fledged android device!
The Touch Pro and Touch Pro 2 were the same. Right now you don't even need to have to flash a custom rom to get sense 2.5 running anymore. They have that all cabbed up for us (mind you I still flash.) Taking programs from other phones and tweaking them to work on ours seems to work fairly easy as well.
You can't do HALF the things possible with the iphones you can do with even the most basic windows mobile phone. The phone thing I thought the Iphone had that was better then the touch pro was the screen size. However, the display resolution was just garbage. That was quickly fixed with the Touch Pro 2 I would say.
Basically think of the Iphone like an automatic car..... then windows mobile phones are more like standard/stick cars. You have more control over what the "Car" can do and when... you can tweak its performance to better suit whatever your need might be.
If you like the Iphone interface guess what... you can download a skin that mimic's it almost exactly!!!
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good analogy..on wm like a manual/stick
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I know what you mean, execpt for me it is just the opposite. I got my Tilt 2 after I threw my iPhone across the room because you can't do a damn thing with it unless you jailbreak it and then it never is quiet right. I have a Samsung that is goatbreaked and a Motorola that is modded and now I am learning this Windows Mobile stuff. It is fun and most of the stuff I try actually works. Go figure!!! LoL !!! anyway I guess that is my two cents and to each his own. Good luck with your iPhone if it fits your needs. - Take care
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I don't want to tweak it, I want it to work. I need to take pictures wile on the job, email or MMS them to my partner, listen to streaming music while traveling between the work sites and use calendar. Is it too much to ask ?
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All of these things worked just fine for me out of the box on my ATT Tilt2, and that stock ROM has been blasted as the worst, most bloated version.
And what is so hard about taking pictures with the TP2? Its simple and works great. And low-light photos on the iPhone are absolutely aweful on the iPhone. In a side-by-comparison, indoor low light photos on the TP2 blow away the iPhone.
Going from the TP2 to the iPhone is one end of the spectrum to the other. I'll agree that if you don't like to tweak and customize, than the TP2 is probably not for you. And the iPhone is about as customizable as a microwave oven.

current state??

hey
i think about buying a touch pro 2 and as now im running android on the htc kaiser and love it i want to have it on the touch pro 2 too
so could someone please tell me the current state?
is NAND available? so internal flash?
and are there several builds?
and how about the chiefs? are there quiet a few so the developement is fast?
and then does anyone know how the touch pro 2 is compared to the kaiser?
is it way faster and better?
thanks
nick
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997
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hey
i think about buying a touch pro 2 and as now im running android on the htc kaiser and love it i want to have it on the touch pro 2 too
so could someone please tell me the current state?
is NAND available? so internal flash?
and are there several builds?
and how about the chiefs? are there quiet a few so the developement is fast?
and then does anyone know how the touch pro 2 is compared to the kaiser?
is it way faster and better?
thanks
nick
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as far as the phone itself, the Rhodium way better than the Kaiser(i have 2 tilts also ). it has a bigger higher quality screen. more finger friendly touch screen, etc...dont get me wrong, the Kaiser(tilt) , in my opinion, was one of the first true do it all phones. i was doing everything with that phone..lol as far as Android on Rhodium concerned, You be better off reading that link that Reefer posted for ya. I have the Tilt 2 with XDAndroid AOSP 2.1 n lovin it
thanks for the replies,
about android
it doesnot seem to be a very fast developement as we have it for the kasier.
do you have just 2 different builds?
what about a sense build? because they released a new one with rosie launcher which looks very nice.
thanks
nick
i believe theres 3 builds goin on simultaneously. the original build, then Aosp 2.1 , and the Klinux 2.1 build. of course the Rhodium isnt going to be as far along as the kaiser. the kaiser been out alot longer b4 the tilt 2. so its Android project is going to be further along in developement. the Rhodium is night and day different than the kaiser. wvga 480*800..its like Kaiser is Nintendo and Rhodium is like playstation 2 or 3..lmao
personally i would hold on to the kaiser until sound is figured out on the rhodium builds that was one of my main concerns when i bought my tilt 2 but as far as development goes Rhodium is going along rather quickly considering on how long development of 2.1 builds on kaiser with and of course Sense 2.1 is gonna be a big improvement when you do move to rhodium
okay thanks
i did buy a pt2 now but i guess then il need to stay with windows mobilke for a few month!
i just hope that the 2.1 android developements goin fast and ill do my best to help out with it!
nick
If you were buying a new phone and wanting Android, why not buy a phone with Android on it by default??
beacuse i want to have a full keyboard and ki dont like the G1
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beacuse i want to have a full keyboard and ki dont like the G1
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there is a samsung with full physical keyboard and android 2.0
i thinks time to close..
if you want to buy tp2 purely for android, why the hell would not just buy android-native phone.
no matter how good all these xda builds are, they will never be as good as running a phone designed from the ground up to run android.
even if you want keyboard, there's bunch of android phone to choose from. although with swype and similar types of input, i find myself using physical keyboard less often.
mxxcon said:
if you want to buy tp2 purely for android, why the hell would not just buy android-native phone.
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Sprint SERO is the best answer to this one. The jump from $30/month to $60+ is quite a lot to swallow. I'm doing it for the EVO, but my wife just couldn't justify it and bought a TP2 today. She is still on WM, but hopes to be able to dual boot them both once the sound issue is resolved.
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Sprint SERO is the best answer to this one. The jump from $30/month to $60+ is quite a lot to swallow. I'm doing it for the EVO, but my wife just couldn't justify it and bought a TP2 today. She is still on WM, but hopes to be able to dual boot them both once the sound issue is resolved.
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^ I'm waiting to buy a TP2 for this port. I will NOT pay double price
Fancy_Lad said:
Sprint SERO is the best answer to this one. The jump from $30/month to $60+ is quite a lot to swallow. I'm doing it for the EVO, but my wife just couldn't justify it and bought a TP2 today. She is still on WM, but hopes to be able to dual boot them both once the sound issue is resolved.
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I'm on SERO too and upgraded to TP2, but not because of android(it wasn't released then). but again, if you want a phone to run purely android, perhaps look at diamond, i think its development state is further along than tp2.
hey,
thanks for all your advice but ive already bought the tp2...and its not just because android...i have a kaiser right now and running android on it and i just like the tp2 as the device...and not because i could run android on it...
so i just wnated to know what works and what doesnt and what build are availabe...just the current state of developement. but i think im kindof in it now and know the build availabe and as soon as we have a native bootloader for android i might run android again...but for now ill just stick with wimo
thanks
nick
mxxcon said:
if you want to buy tp2 purely for android, why the hell would not just buy android-native phone.
no matter how good all these xda builds are, they will never be as good as running a phone designed from the ground up to run android.
even if you want keyboard, there's bunch of android phone to choose from. although with swype and similar types of input, i find myself using physical keyboard less often.
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There are currently, to my knowledge, no phones that satisfy the following three requirements:
1) Keyboard (N1 doesn't have this)
2) Support for the AT&T 3G band (Everything but N1 and Backflip)
3) Non-backlevel (has to be 2.0 or greater for Android) OS release (Backflip is a cripplephone at 1.5 or 1.6)
In my case once Android for Rhodium becomes more mature, I might use it as an Android phone, but so far thanks to the lack of a phone that offers all three of my requirements above for Android, I'm sticking to the Tilt2 running a Windows Mobile EnergyROM build, which meets all three of my key requirements above.
mxxcon said:
if you want to buy tp2 purely for android, why the hell would not just buy android-native phone.
no matter how good all these xda builds are, they will never be as good as running a phone designed from the ground up to run android.
even if you want keyboard, there's bunch of android phone to choose from. although with swype and similar types of input, i find myself using physical keyboard less often.
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Here's why, at least in my case... there's no phone out right now that meet ALL the following criteria:
1.) WVGA or greater (480x800)
2.) CDMA (I'm on Sprint)
3.) Native Android (2.1+)
4.) Physical Keyboard (I hate the touchscreen keyboards, always fat fingering, I swapped my diamond for a TP1 because of this)
However, I bought my TP2 originally because I was upgrading from a TP1, never expected to use android on it, but seeing that it's SO much faster than WinMo, I would much rather use it than WinMo... Not to mention unless Windows Phone 7 is some kind of revolutionary break through (which as it seems, it looks like "too little too late") they are going to lose to Android, very quickly, so I'd rather stay ahead of the curve or at least in line with it, rather than fall behind.

Thank you for turning me off

I'm glad to announce that come this Sunday when the Captivate drops on AT&T I will be done with windows mobile 6.XX for good. Being able to test out the Android OS on my Tilt 2 put the dagger in the heart of Windows Mobile for me. I was skeptical at first, but now I believe that the Android OS is far superior compared to any other mobile OS. I'm sure the developers are working hard on a 100% port, but I'm tossing the Tilt 2, all thanks to a tease. Anyone else in the same boat I am?
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Well, crap, I didn't even see the "Goodbye Rhodium" thread. My bad.
Hells yeah, unfortunately I'm on the sprint network so I have to wait a little bit more. The only reason I wanted to make android work on the TP2 was the size of the phone (I think the Evo is just a little to big for my taste) and the physical keyboard.
Dont feel bad. There are many in your boat. I was pretty skeptical of android myself, but I've also been pretty attached to google for a few years now. It just made sense really. Winmo just isnt getting the support they need to make their product better it seems.
dressanderc said:
I'm glad to announce that come this Sunday when the Captivate drops on AT&T I will be done with windows mobile 6.XX for good. Being able to test out the Android OS on my Tilt 2 put the dagger in the heart of Windows Mobile for me. I was skeptical at first, but now I believe that the Android OS is far superior compared to any other mobile OS. I'm sure the developers are working hard on a 100% port, but I'm tossing the Tilt 2, all thanks to a tease. Anyone else in the same boat I am?
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Well, crap, I didn't even see the "Goodbye Rhodium" thread. My bad.
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I was thinking the same thing as well, until i realized that even if we could use the camera, bluetooth, wifi and sound on the with android... it's just not that great.
I get all the options of android, plus the support and compatibility of windows.
mobileshell and mobilesense allowed me to completely drop the android os.
i dunno, i just hate to see people let go of their rhodiums. best damn phone Ive ever had and guarentee it will be for years to come.
enjoy android. sorry to see another winmo go...
I have agree even though I have moved on from the touch pro 2 the actual phone was amazing I was just gutted it was on windows mobile 6.5 which in my view didn't take advantage of the phone. I wish htc had released an android version of the tp2 rather than just making touch phones this year

Get Evo now, or wait for a WP7 device?

Hey everyone, need advice get an Evo now, I have a place to get one, or get a WP7 later and wait it out?
It's been tough seeing my sister with the Evo while I'm still running this old stuff but I'm waiting for WP7.
If you're like 90% of the people who have the evo, you'll be eligible for a full handset upgrade every year through sprint premier ($70/mnth+ on single line, or $100/mnth+ family line)
If I had a handset upgrade every year, I'd probably get the epic or evo. You can always arrange a trade with someone if you really want a WP7 before your next upgrade
I would just get the Evo, WP7 just shot itself in the foot lately. Instead of going forward their going backwards no tethering, no internet browser options. I could go on and on. Ill look around next month for a upgrade as well since my contract is up. I hate to leave windows mobile 6.5 but no more support for my i637 jack.
But then again, it might be about half a year befor sprint and verizon get WP7 as MS is currently looking to only support GSM first.
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It's been tough seeing my sister with the Evo while I'm still running this old stuff but I'm waiting for WP7.
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Honestly, when I put my Omnia II just running titanium up against the iphone and android...I don't really see it all that lacking. I think MS really misstepped by not releasing photon. I think an updated 6.5 version would have really stomped Android. I wonder how close they were to release.
gom99 said:
Honestly, when I put my Omnia II just running titanium up against the iphone and android...I don't really see it all that lacking. I think MS really misstepped by not releasing photon. I think an updated 6.5 version would have really stomped Android. I wonder how close they were to release.
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It might have. But WP7 is still light years ahead of that. Who cares if it's missing a few features at launch that only "power users" really care about? I am extremely glad they took the course that they did. Photon was evolutionary, WP7 is revolutionary in terms of UI and platform. Would we have seen Silverlight and XNA (including Xbox Live) on Photon? no way. We'd still be using WinForms, maybe just slightly updated with some new controls and styling and gesture support. Ever since the Zune HD launched, many people were hoping Microsoft would make a phone based on that philosophy and that's what WP7 is. Metro is the ****.
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Who cares if it's missing a few features at launch that only "power users" really care about?
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Uhhhh.........maybe the power users on this power users forum?
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Uhhhh.........maybe the power users on this power users forum?
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That's where "jailbreaking" will probably come in.
Paperclips your starting to seem very apologetic for WP7, but I can understand why. People just don't want to like WP7, I think were part of the few.
But back on the subject at hand. Yes I'd say get the Evo 4g if your on sprint, because WP7 isn't coming to that carrier until mid 2011. IF your not on Sprint than try other carriers and them make your judgement off that.
How much of you folks truly do use tethering? And who just make another fuzz just because? I'm sure most of you fall into the latter category.
Anyone that needs mobile connectivity regularly would just get a 3G thumbstick anyway. They're cheap as ****, too.
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How much of you folks truly do use tethering?
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I can't say I use it often, but when I do, I really need it.
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Anyone that needs mobile connectivity regularly would just get a 3G thumbstick anyway. They're cheap as ****, too.
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That's not really a solution. I need a new SIM, a new contract, another device to carry with me at all times, I need to remember to pay for it, etc. If I used it daily I would maybe get it, but for occasional use it's just a hassle.
krjcook said:
Paperclips your starting to seem very apologetic for WP7, but I can understand why. People just don't want to like WP7, I think were part of the few.
But back on the subject at hand. Yes I'd say get the Evo 4g if your on sprint, because WP7 isn't coming to that carrier until mid 2011. IF your not on Sprint than try other carriers and them make your judgement off that.
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I wouldn't say apologetic. I'd say realistic. I just think that there is room for more than two operating systems as some people on this forum think. They view every consumer as a power user when it's far from true. Jailbreaking probably will happen but whenever I decide to buy a Windows Phone I'm not sure I will need to. I'm honestly waiting for one that has 4G for Verizon which probably won't come for the second half of next year. For the time being, I'm perfectly content with my Incredible.
I'd actually suggest that the OP buy the EVO if they're getting an upgrade next year anyway. By then there should be a great selection of 4G Windows phones if they so choose to go that way.
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How much of you folks truly do use tethering?
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I use it at least 20x a month.

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