So i was playing around with some ideas and this is what I've come up with so far.
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It has enough buttons to simulate a ps2 controller + 6 auxiliary buttons. What I was thinking is that it perhaps breaks in half (like most evo hard cases) and can be easily carried in 2 pieces + phone. Circuit wise I don't think there's going to be a whole lot of space used (micro controller to handle button/analog info and 3.5mm/micro-usb/hdmi passthroughs (thinking just putting little extensions and leaving them roughly where they are coming out) If there's enough room I'd also like to perhaps make it so you can put an extra battery on the back that will automatically start draining to charge the battery in the unit (also easily replaceable, allowing you to switch out batteries whilst playing with out having to turn off phone.)
What do you guys thinks? Obviously this is a ways off, I'm playing around with prototyping stuff now (playing around with which hard case would be a good base for a prototype, finding a small micro-controller that does what I need, pricing micro usb female ports..., .etc.)
awesome, would buy/help make and test. wish i new how.
sounds like a good idea, +1 for the battery on the back, otherwise it would be like having a GameGear all over again.
(may want to reverse the orientation of the phone however.
Great concept. Now only if we had a blueprint and a company to manufacture this product.
Well you could always make it work via bluetooth assuming a ROM fixes HID bluetooth.
Oh yeah a battery would be great, will definitely buy one if you make it.
mrono said:
sounds like a good idea, +1 for the battery on the back, otherwise it would be like having a GameGear all over again.
(may want to reverse the orientation of the phone however.
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I still have my game gear, it's just filled with sega awesomeness. Though I wish I got a Nomad instead.
My only input is that instead of "1-2-3-4" make it "a-b-x-y" there's no reason to pretend !
Other than that I would LOVE to have something like this, dying to play games on my EVO.
Would be so awesome, especially since we can't even play flash games with our softkeys.
You think you could go ahead and give making a concept where it went below the EVO instead of to the sides? It would be smaller and easier to hold, more like a slideout keyboard. Either way I think I'll be in for one.
Also would be interested. Wish I could help ya but alas, I do not have any programming skills. How do you plan on making it work? Through the USB port?
davebu said:
You think you could go ahead and give making a concept where it went below the EVO instead of to the sides? It would be smaller and easier to hold, more like a slideout keyboard. Either way I think I'll be in for one.
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Sense it's just a pet project for me atm, I'm having to work around the constraints of stuff I can get, the easiest starting point to build a sturdy frame is off a cheap-o hard case. (which goes around the phone)
Interesting, will play around with idea... one of my big worries is connections and how they will mount and all that jaz, I also want it to be sturdy so you don't have to worry about the device slipping out of the holder.
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Also would be interested. Wish I could help ya but alas, I do not have any programming skills. How do you plan on making it work? Through the USB port?
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Mostly hardware stuff atm, but yes I will have a microcontroller that takes button presses and runs everything through the usb.
For the case it self you could look up vacuum forming. They use it to make Stormtrooper Armor. You could get away with a much smaller vac table than they use.
Then for the buttons I THINK theres a way you can use a wired keyboard then just hack it to pieces so all you have left is the ten or so buttons you want then put them into your new case. Also the sticks that are on controllers are 4 or 8 way so all you need is the physical stick and it needs to contact the buttons when you push it in a particular direction.
Please don't forget that we need working USB host drivers to get this going. If you want to even be able to use the USB host from the hardware side of things, you will need the battery in the back, then step it up to the 5V needed. A minty-boost-esque type circuit should do nicely and cheaply.
I would look at the NES USB controller that used an Arduino bootloaded ATMega in a custom circuit. Would be awesome to simply have an arduino with USB functionality, a battery, and buttons attached to the EVO. Think of all of the open source capabilities!
The biggest battle would not be circuit or design, but the software side of getting a working USB Host. But A-HAH! Sven Kellig has working USB host on the NEXUS ONE which if I am not mistaken here, has very similar parts to Our EVO.
I have to say I clicked on this thread expecting to see some hairbrained crack-pot idea... glad to see I was very wrong
This is effing brilliant! Great concept and very relevant!
I think a bluetooth game pad would be more portable and since the evo has a kick stand you could sit it on a table and play it like a small game console.
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I think a bluetooth game pad would be more portable and since the evo has a kick stand you could sit it on a table and play it like a small game console.
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I think thats why so many people go nuts about the wiimote not working with sense. If you use a ASOP rom wiimotes should work.
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For the case it self you could look up vacuum forming. They use it to make Stormtrooper Armor. You could get away with a much smaller vac table than they use.
Then for the buttons I THINK theres a way you can use a wired keyboard then just hack it to pieces so all you have left is the ten or so buttons you want then put them into your new case. Also the sticks that are on controllers are 4 or 8 way so all you need is the physical stick and it needs to contact the buttons when you push it in a particular direction.
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I'm actually a member of the 501st (I'm a sandtrooper) so I'm familiar with the process. It's not sure if it vs casting would be best yet, I think it will depend on the final design.
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Please don't forget that we need working USB host drivers to get this going. If you want to even be able to use the USB host from the hardware side of things, you will need the battery in the back, then step it up to the 5V needed. A minty-boost-esque type circuit should do nicely and cheaply.
I would look at the NES USB controller that used an Arduino bootloaded ATMega in a custom circuit. Would be awesome to simply have an arduino with USB functionality, a battery, and buttons attached to the EVO. Think of all of the open source capabilities!
The biggest battle would not be circuit or design, but the software side of getting a working USB Host. But A-HAH! Sven Kellig has working USB host on the NEXUS ONE which if I am not mistaken here, has very similar parts to Our EVO.
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One of the big reasons I wanted to do USB over Bluetooth was so that we could tie in a spare battery for charging the phone, playing games on it is going to drain battery fast.
Here is a thought if we cannot get the working USB Drivers....
- Embed a Bluetooth HID chip in there to handle all of the controller stuff.
- Use an iPod Battery to power the whole thing (3.7V Li-Ion because they are cheap at places like DealExtreme) with a MiniUSB charging port (iPod batteries have built in charging circuitry)
- Put in an embedded MicroUSB for charging the phone at the same time that has a 3.3V to 5.5V booster with decent current output SMD type circuit in it.
These little changes would allow the controller to be used independently of the EVO. That way, you could stand it up and play from your seat if you want or put the case around it and treat it like a super large PSP. This bluetooth option would definitely be more expensive and far more complicated, but perhaps our only option if USB Host cannot be worked out and drivers ported.
If kept as a single low power microcontroller (such as a 3.3V ATMega), updates and on the fly configuration would be much easier and it would be a MUCH cheaper design.
I can totally help with circuitry and the like no problem.
Perhaps the guy from the Clear battery back door would be helpful.
For Proto Boxes, Box Enclosures inc. or Hammond MFG are nice.
I want this!!!!!
Honestly, getting it to work via USB is probably not going to happen. You could just pickup el cheapo Chinese wii remotes on ebay and just dissemble them and use their hardware for your gamepad. Use the USB to charge the EVO.
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I didn't want to clog/hijack THIS THREAD but the pin info and idea was very helpful. After waiting and waiting and waiting for official word of a charging dock that utilizes the pogo pins on the side, I've given up hope. And lets face it if you kill the usb port on this thing "you're screwed". so I really wanted to reduce my usb port usage and utilize a feature that comes with the device.
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My material list is 8 screws, 46 gauge guitar string, a strip of 1/2" playwood that happened to be ripped down to 2 1/2" in my garage, usb cable, piece of flat 1/8" thick plastic and a tiny bit of solder. The way that I screwed/bent the piece of guitar string gives the perfect amount of spring so that when the device is set both are compressed and make contact with the side of the device.
This was very spur of the moment and took me a half hour to build. And it works brilliantly. Yes I could have spent more time on design and material type and getting proper pogo pins. But I'm lazy and intent of this thread is spark ideas in other peoples heads. So now this masterpiece lives on my nightstand and I drop my galnex in at night and wake up to a full charge in the morning without having to use the usb port.
**edit** The pic of the lockscreen is in landscape using the Team Kang AOKP rom.
good day.
THIS is what I love to see here. Ingenuity. Looks good to me. I am thinking of putting some docks together here this weekend. One for the nightstand and one for the office.
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VERY awesome work. I love some hacked together ingenuity for sure, haha. I've had the car and desktop dock on order from Clove since December but I think I'll be cancelling the orders fairly soon and working up something on my own.
MacGyver would be proud
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Very nice!
Love it, nice work. Like you said, you could get some cheap pogo pins off digikey, but I like the character of your design.
Going to have to try this over the weekend. What is the third pin for on the phone?
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Zane_Grey said:
Going to have to try this over the weekend. What is the third pin for on the phone?
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This is a decent, and probably relevant, read speculating on the function of the third pin on the Nexus One: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631508
I love this, but I got some questions I'd like answered before attempting this.
1.For those of us without guitar string, would a paper clip bent into proper shape work well too?
2. What cable is that, that you were using just a power cord or was that usb?
3. You said it just sits on your night stand so does that mean you cant transfer data to your computer?
Also a video just going over it more or perhaps some more pics of the back there would be nice (at least for me) to see what is screwed around the screw.
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I love this, but I got some questions I'd like answered before attempting this.
1.For those of us without guitar string, would a paper clip bent into proper shape work well too?
2. What cable is that, that you were using just a power cord or was that usb?
3. You said it just sits on your night stand so does that mean you cant transfer data to your computer?
Also a video just going over it more or perhaps some more pics of the back there would be nice (at least for me) to see what is screwed around the screw.
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1. no idea, sorry. Check out the pogo pins though.
2. Thats a power cable, a usb would have a wire for data.
3. the pins don't transfer any information (well... the middle one does, but not anything useful to a pc) so transferring stuff would be impossible. (but thats what wifi is for)
This is beautiful and ugly at the same time.
One thing I would recommend is cutting out an area at the bottom of the phone so that you COULD attach a USB, OTG, or MHL cable if need-be. Perhaps that side of the dock could be shaped like a B, or notched to also allow access to the headphone port.
I would also maybe split out the power connection to a microUSB port to power MHL or other accessories. Or maybe just wire up a fullsize female USB to power another unit such as a bluetooth headset or whatever. It just would be nice to have a powered USB port just in case.
To the guy above, sure it may not look perfect but a coat of paint would spruce it up very well.
Overall A+
I might try my hand at something like this. I'm a cheap ass when it comes to buying crap for phones (since I go through them often). I have all the materials already with the exception of spare guitar strings but the paperclip idea sounds great and can be bent to size. I have some Poplar wood in my basement that would even look good with a heavy clear coat.
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One thing I would recommend is cutting out an area at the bottom of the phone so that you COULD attach a USB, OTG, or MHL cable if need-be. Perhaps that side of the dock could be shaped like a B, or notched to also allow access to the headphone port.
I would also maybe split out the power connection to a microUSB port to power MHL or other accessories. Or maybe just wire up a fullsize female USB to power another unit such as a bluetooth headset or whatever. It just would be nice to have a powered USB port just in case.
To the guy above, sure it may not look perfect but a coat of paint would spruce it up very well.
Overall A+
I might try my hand at something like this. I'm a cheap ass when it comes to buying crap for phones (since I go through them often). I have all the materials already with the exception of spare guitar strings but the paperclip idea sounds great and can be bent to size. I have some Poplar wood in my basement that would even look good with a heavy clear coat.
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I am thinking of attempting this as well. Except I dont have the wood to spare for this, so I am trying to look for a generic stand on ebay that would be possible to modify to fit at the least the pogo pins and at the most everything you mentioned. Because it would be a MHL adapter built in and ready to go.
Nice Job! Very creative use of guitar strings in lieu of pogo pins! I might have to try something like this...
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I am thinking of attempting this as well. Except I dont have the wood to spare for this, so I am trying to look for a generic stand on ebay that would be possible to modify to fit at the least the pogo pins and at the most everything you mentioned. Because it would be a MHL adapter built in and ready to go.
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I'm looking for something generic too, something that came to my mind was some kind of business card holder. Just a thought I'd throw out there.
chuckdz3 said:
I'm looking for something generic too, something that came to my mind was some kind of business card holder. Just a thought I'd throw out there.
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Make it out of Lego blocks! Dunno how you would keep the pins in place though..
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Make it out of Lego blocks! Dunno how you would keep the pins in place though..
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DUCT TAPE! (j/k) Gorrilla glue/super glue will work if you drill a small enough of a hole.
Or even some kind of poxy to hold it there. I might have to run to the Lego Store at the Mall of America to go buy me some Legos to build me a stand!
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DUCT TAPE! (j/k) Gorrilla glue/super glue will work if you drill a small enough of a hole.
Or even some kind of poxy to hold it there. I might have to run to the Lego Store at the Mall of America to go buy me some Legos to build me a stand!
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Lol! Soo tempting to make a duct tape stand HA! I so totally need to restring my guitar and I already have some new strings.... (yells at wife) HONEY WHERE'S THE DUCT TAPE!!
For those looking for generic stands, I saw some on ebay that were just acrylic kinda in an "S" shape sort of deal that looked like could hold the nexus fully and was pretty modifiable.
Although than running a particular rom, has anyone found a way to get the GNex in to landscape mode while on a dock? I did a quick search and didn't find anything. On my D1 I used a magnet placed in a particular spot to force it into dock mode.
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Alright so by demand and as a newcomer gift to XDA, I will show you how to open up the Acer Iconia A100 tablet and how to replace the crappy microphone they provide with it, this thread is going to have pictures and is going to need a bit of organization skills and some soldering skills , so let's start
Before beginning note: make sure to work on a towel or something soft as the tablet will be upside down, I didn't use one and I got pretty bad scratches on my protector, as you will see in the last picture.
BEFORE BEGINNING NOTE #2 YAY!: I am in no way responsible of any damage to your device, your life, your marriage, your emotions, your cream cheese bagel order at Tim Horton's that wasn't discounted 18 cents, or your cat. So do this at your OWN risk.
Before beginning note #3: This will void your warranty....DUH. But I really don't care about mine because my slogan is "I VOID WARRANTIES "
Things you will need:
1) Set of small philips screwdrivers
2) Soldering iron
3) Solder (optional, not necessary as the mics have solder on them already)
4) Something to pry the plastic open with (I used my nail but you can use a flathead screwdriver...etc)
5) Another microphone you are going to use (preferably from a webcam/ headset, as they need to be the exact size or close to the original one)
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Acer A100, great tablet, crappy battery and crappy mic.
In the next few images, I will pry off the plastic sides of the tablet, don't worry if you feel like they bend, just run your finger across and under the pieces until you hear all the snap ins snap out.
Bottom side:
Right side:
Top side:
Left side:
Alright, now that all the sides are off, let's get to the screws, there are 5 screws you have to get off, in these pictures you will see where they are.
Bottom side:
Right side:
Top side(NO SCREWS HERE, CARRY ON)
Left side:
Well now I really don't have to say it cause it's really obvious, grab your screw driver and get to work on these screws, make sure you put them on the side after you take em' out.
NOW FOR THE FUN PART , Really opening it up, get your nail ready, or whatever you're going to use for prying the plastic apart, and start SLOWLY prying the 2 pieces apart, CAREFULLY!
And now, completely take off the back cover (Don't worry, there's nothing connected to it, it's just an antenna)
AND BEHOLD, THE INTERNALS! (and that damned battery.....)
Alright now don't get too excited (I learned this the hard way...), there's a few things you must do first, look around and get familiar where everything is, and DISCONNECT THE BATTERY CONNECTOR!(Warning: as soon as you disconnect the battery, the whole tablet will shut down COMPLETELY, so make sure you save anything you haven't saved like game progress etc...then unplug it)
Now the left side is where the good stuff is at, so ignore everything else and just go to the left side.
Notice there is 3 connectors, the Microphone connector (black), some other connector (white and black), and some other connector (yellow), all of these have to go out, and once they are out there are 2 screws holding that small chip down in place, one black and one silver, these 2 have to go out too.
First connector (white and black), just open the small black tab and pull the flat thing out, should be really easy:
Second connector (yellow), this thing just pulls off the board, just easily lift it up:
and now remove the 2 screws and put them aside:
And now really gently pull the small board out, might need some wiggling around but it'll come out, it will be obstructed because the microphone is still in its place, but just lift the microphone out, it slides right out
So I accidentally deleted the rest of this post and lost all the images, but its pretty straight forward, just desolder the microphone, solder a new one on and pop everything back into place, make sure to put the battery connector on last and close up the tablet.
Enjoy your new microphone and hope this wasn't too long, please use the thanks button if it helped you
Man, As soon as I am able to risk opening up my A100 I so want to do this. Thanks, not only for doing it but for taking the time to take pics and post it all. You Rock!
You're very welcome, I had many more pics assembling it back, but I accidentally deleted them and lost all of it haha
Hey do you think this mic might work out? or do you have a part# for the one you used, or from what model webcam you took it?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replacement...950292?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4ab6c51954
Well I tested 3 mics from 2 webcams and one headset, the headset was the Xbox live one and it sucked crap, and the 2 Logitech webcams were Logitech V-UM14 and V-UBC40, I settled for the one from the ubc40 as it seemed better than the um14.
About the Nokia one, I don't know if it would work as there are no solder points and you gotta take into consideration the size, both my webcams and the headset and the tablet had mics that were really close in size
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Nice, ok I'll scour the interwebz to get one. I don't really need it for now... but I know I'll get bored one of these days and I'll give this mod a try. Thanks.
Well if you ever do it, post which mic you use and if it works or not.
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great job man! time to find me a mic! whoop!
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You are very welcome, feel free to tell everyone how it goes with the new mic
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Anyone have the Mic dimensions? I'm going to try and order one from Digikey while I perform a screen repair on a friends tablet in the next week or two.
Having the dimensions and what type of connection used will help select the correct one. Is it a surface mount or are wires running to it?
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THANKS
My daughter dropped hers on the power plug and the power plug was fouled inside. I was worried I would not be able to replace the power adapter and sure enough, after reading your post with picks I realized I could buy the adapter for $15 and replace it myself. Worked like a champ! Again thanks for the picks, it really answered how to take it apart.
My acer iconia a100 wont charge or power up (maybe because of a one meter fall)
do you think if i remove and reconnect the battery it will boot up ?
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superfaker said:
My acer iconia a100 wont charge or power up (maybe because of a one meter fall)
do you think if i remove and reconnect the battery it will boot up ?
thanks
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Only if its disconnected, otherwise not likely, if its under the one year warranty try that first.
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Only if its disconnected, otherwise not likely, if its under the one year warranty try that first.
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Thank you for your reply !
I bought it in november 2011 so the warranty ended
I opened the a100
I remove the battery connector then pushed the power button several times (5 to 30 seconds)
i reconnect the battery & the powersupply to see if it will charge or power on > Didn't worked
so i was desperate, thinking of destroy the **************** tablet but i reassemble it
i retried to power on with the power button.....blue led on...acer a100 is booting
it's working for now, reset the tablet ....wait n see......
This is very interesting, that you would do this, ive contemplated it but ive sooner used a headset when necessery. I have a phone now though. Im gonna loom into revamping the battery. Now thatd be a mod
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So is it fairly simple to replace just the battery itself? ie, no soldering for the battery?
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airbus318 said:
So is it fairly simple to replace just the battery itself? ie, no soldering for the battery?
Thanks
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Yes, I think there are a few screws that hold it down and a plug. So once you open it up it is pretty easy.
Thanks will attempt.
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External Mic
Perhaps a silly question, but how difficult would it be to drill a small hole in the plastic near the microphone and solder wires to the mic location? And what would the max length of wire possible? Just rough guesses, I know it's pretty hard to be specific on stuff like that. Reason is that I have mine installed in my car as a head unit and was curious if I could run wire from the tablet to a mic mounted in the roof/headliner so that I could issue voice commands in a normal volume. I'd post a pic of my install but I don't have enough posts.
What could happen if i disconnect the other connectors first instead of the battery connector?
Hi everyone,
A few minutes ago I had an idea. A case that gives you game controls and looks like a ps vita. Before I try to design and build this. First I would just like to know if anyone would even want to buy this, next I would appreciate any and all help if I get some interest. If not enough interest, then I would probs just make an instructable. Here is a quick sketch that I made:
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Just to be clear, I very well might have to give up on this at some point so it is not a definate that I will make it.
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Hi everyone,
A few minutes ago I had an idea. A case that gives you game controls and looks like a ps vita. Before I try to design and build this. First I would just like to know if anyone would even want to buy this, next I would appreciate any and all help if I get some interest. If not enough interest, then I would probs just make an instructable. Here is a quick sketch that I made:
Just to be clear, I very well might have to give up on this at some point so it is not a definate that I will make it.
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Patent it before Apple does!
how much would you plan it to cost?
you can buy a PS vita looking android 4.0 gaming rig for under 90 bucks on ebay.
I'd buy it depending on the price
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scarrmrcc said:
how much would you plan it to cost?
you can buy a PS vita looking android 4.0 gaming rig for under 90 bucks on ebay.
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Th price really depends on costs and I have no idea what it will cost. This is still just a drawing so the final product is a very long way off.
I'd be very interested in it. Looks really cool. Would be great for games with on screen controls n emulators
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sounds cool but I'd rather have a universal one since I'm swapping phones very often. Maybe you can change the device "holder" to an expansive type?
something like this BUT, of course less bulky looking something more slim to go along the line of the new devices.
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Th price really depends on costs and I have no idea what it will cost. This is still just a drawing so the final product is a very long way off.
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well, then what fabrication abilities do you have? this would involve circuitboards, and at minimum vacuum formed, if not castings of plastic...
what programming do you have? can you set up a USB controller?
make a prototype, and then see how much that cost... and by prototype, I mean essentially a sellable product, not some random duct-taped pile of bits that only was inexpensive due to using used parts.
or is this just a drawing of an idea from a person that has no ability to make it?
You can also try Kickstarter to try to get funds to get this working n maybe get more people interested once you have a workable demo going
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i was trying to come up with this for my gs3 with the two sides clamping onto tho phone via the usb dock and headphone jack so i can run an extender for usb and audio out. got a 360 pad hacked but having problems with hacking the usb to micro usb on the phone. gotten a little messy with the mod too.
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well, then what fabrication abilities do you have? this would involve circuitboards, and at minimum vacuum formed, if not castings of plastic...
what programming do you have? can you set up a USB controller?
make a prototype, and then see how much that cost... and by prototype, I mean essentially a sellable product, not some random duct-taped pile of bits that only was inexpensive due to using used parts.
or is this just a drawing of an idea from a person that has no ability to make it?
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At this moment I have very little ability to make it, however, I am a quick learner. I feel like there is about a 50% chance that this will be completed. Right now I am working on a rough 3d model of the plastic shell on computer. I was thinking about getting that 3d printed once it is done. I dont know how to set up a usb controller and I can program some basic java.
shinkien said:
i was trying to come up with this for my gs3 with the two sides clamping onto tho phone via the usb dock and headphone jack so i can run an extender for usb and audio out. got a 360 pad hacked but having problems with hacking the usb to micro usb on the phone. gotten a little messy with the mod too.
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I really like this, but if you really wanted something like this you can use gameclip and ps3 controller, but the reason that my idea, IMO, is better is because you could fit the whole thing in your pocket.
Very rough "sketch" 3d model. Gets my point across that it will be 2 parts and they will attach to each other and plug into the phone.
It looks like an endangered insect，lol.
looks good. keep it coming
Hi guys,
I have realized that this could never come to the market, at least if it was made by me. If it was made by me then costs would just be too high because of my inability to mass produce all of the parts needed to create this. I just cant afford it and I really cant design it and market it and assemble it all while going to high school and doing homework and studying. However, once this is done, I will make an instructable for all of you to see and make this yourselves and perhaps one of you would be able to perfect it and produce it on a large scale. If that happens, I ask for nothing in return ecxept for credit where credit is due, but I doubt that this will happen...
So I'm really missing wireless charging after having stuffed it into my GS3 and the Nexus 4 obviously having it built in. So... being that I still had 2 chargers and 2 pads left over, I've decided to begin modding the Moto X after seeing there was quite a bit of room in the bottom of the phone under the battery cover when I was replacing the woven black with a MotoMaker back. Here's the pre-fitting photos. I had to trim some of the foam away at the bottom, and still need to trace where exactly to place the wires for the charging. I'm guessing I'll have to solder directly to the back of the USB port. Where it sits will be a perfect angle, and should not interfere with NFC at all (Yay google wallet!)
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I'll be posting periodically with updates, although I don't know when I'll have more time as I have 2 infant daughters that demand much attention.
Awesome!
I've been missing qi charging as well, hopefully you get this to work.
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I'll be posting periodically with updates, although I don't know when I'll have more time as I have 2 infant daughters that demand much attention.
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Curious to see how this goes. Even though I am quite sure the results will be positive.
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I hope you don't abandon the idea and keep us updated. Seems like a worthy project!
Go OP! I can't wait to see success with this, so that I may be able to do this mod myself as well.
Exactly what I was hoping someone would do. Hopefully this works out and is simple enough to do. :good:
Looks awesome, OP!
On a side note - where did you get the MotoMaker back? I'd like to change my back to a custom-colored one eventually too, but I haven't been able to find any backs online.
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Looks awesome, OP!
On a side note - where did you get the MotoMaker back? I'd like to change my back to a custom-colored one eventually too, but I haven't been able to find any backs online.
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You can get them on ebay now. Been eyeing getting one but waiting for the wood backs.
Well this is awesome man...!!!!! :good:
Wow, god speed. I don't yet have a Moto X (still holding out for a wood back) but I'm so used to using those Palm wireless chargers on my current phone (SGS)! I have one at work and one at home on my nightstand. It's a perfect angle of inclination for my preference and the wireless charging works great. Are you having any problems putting the phone back together? I know they don't leave much room in there for something as thick as one of these chargers. And I guess if I eventually get the wood back that probably wouldn't make for an easy time getting it off :-/
I'd like to do this too, which coil receiver do you recommend?
Thanks,
Danny
dhoppy said:
I'd like to do this too, which coil receiver do you recommend?
Thanks,
Danny
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The one he is using in the images uses the Palm Touchstone charger, you can find a bunch of applicable coils on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/bhp/palm-wireless-charging I am fairly certain that this coil will only work on that Touchstone and is not compatible with QI or Powermat.
edit: I also highly recommend buying some tiny magnets (I bought 1/4" by 1/32" circular ones) instead of the metal disks that are included so you can get it to snap a lot better to the stand.
thanks
Anyone trying this should aim to have the charging coil as close to the camera as possible, the antennas are all in the lower back of the unit and you won't want to block them at all.
I have been looking at some wireless charging options myself. One of them is a small pad that should fit under most soft cases, it has a thin ribbon cable with a very low profile micro usb connector on the end. The better option is something like that but integrated internally. I haven't opened a Moto X yet to see how much space there is. What is the maximum thickness we can hope to have, is there anywhere near 1mm if we remove the silicone pad?
Everything I am looking at is Qi compatible.
I have also been studying high-res pictures of the inside of the Moto X looking for possible solder points for power, doesn't look too friendly at this point.
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Anyone trying this should aim to have the charging coil as close to the camera as possible, the antennas are all in the lower back of the unit and you won't want to block them at all.
I have been looking at some wireless charging options myself. One of them is a small pad that should fit under most soft cases, it has a thin ribbon cable with a very low profile micro usb connector on the end. The better option is something like that but integrated internally. I haven't opened a Moto X yet to see how much space there is. What is the maximum thickness we can hope to have, is there anywhere near 1mm if we remove the silicone pad?
Everything I am looking at is Qi compatible.
I have also been studying high-res pictures of the inside of the Moto X looking for possible solder points for power, doesn't look too friendly at this point.
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There is plenty of room towards the bottom and the silicone is maybe a mm in the thickest area. Insofar as blocking the antenna, I've never had issues with my sgs3 or note 2 with putting the coil over the antenna. However, with regards to solder points, you are right. This is not going to be easy without fully disassembling and finding either the microUSB solder points or the charging circuits entry points from the microUSB. I may be abandoning this if that's the case.
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Has anyone tried this (for the qi standard)? Thinking about giving it a shot.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Universa...faultDomain_15&var&hash=item27db52d3fa&_uhb=1
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Has anyone tried this (for the qi standard)? Thinking about giving it a shot.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Universa...faultDomain_15&var&hash=item27db52d3fa&_uhb=1
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That looks like it would be perfect to slip between the phone and a case, would bending it to conform to the back of the phone affect it's charging ability though? Or would it even be able to be bent?
"There is plenty of room towards the bottom and the silicone is maybe a mm in the thickest area. Insofar as blocking the antenna, I've never had issues with my sgs3 or note 2 with putting the coil over the antenna. However, with regards to solder points, you are right. This is not going to be easy without fully disassembling and finding either the microUSB solder points or the charging circuits entry points from the microUSB. I may be abandoning this if that's the case."
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So how would one check to see which of the 4 prongs connected to the ribbon going to the battery are the correct +/- terminals. I've been studying over the iFixIt.com images to come up with a plan and I think if I can get a random wireless charging coil from eBay then cut that ribbon to fit into the 2 needed ports for the battery ribbon, then the only thing would be size/fitment under the back cover.
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That looks like it would be perfect to slip between the phone and a case, would bending it to conform to the back of the phone affect it's charging ability though? Or would it even be able to be bent?
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It shouldn't matter. As long as the plug is in, and the pad is near the wireless charger.
This is kinda smart; can't believe this isn't widely known. I've never seen something like this.
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That looks like it would be perfect to slip between the phone and a case, would bending it to conform to the back of the phone affect it's charging ability though? Or would it even be able to be bent?
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Someone has to be the guinea pig on this.. I would love to be able to slide this under a case.
DONE! (kinda, still waiting on my magnets)
Behold, wireless charging in your car! No more tacky wires(well, in a way), no weird looking dock.
Items Needed for this exact project
Lexus IS300, any year, without navigation
Nexus 5 (or pretty much any other QI enabled device)
Soldering iron
Qi Charger
Lots of patience, 30 minutes to an hour of time
Small amount of soldering skills (just 2 soldering points)
A power source behind the "scenes" (panels), in this case, a GROM Audio device with a 5V output USB (female)
Micro USB cable that you are fine with leaving in the car
I think that's it.
Now, here's how I did it.
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This is a wireless charger($11 cheap one off eBay, they have tons on there, output is 1A), torn down to its bare essentials. No more plastic. With the help of a soldering iron, I desoldered the plugs from the charging area to the middle piece that has the light to fit into...
This!
Well this, my Center console vent that is in my IS (No navi )
Top View.
Bottom Views, last one with the cable plugged in.
Now, it is installed! Notice that the panel fits on top without any modifying to the panels, except for the actual charger itself.
Now how does it power up you ask?
With the help of my Grom audio device (which also gives me aux on my stock Lexus Stereo.) I left the USB plug in access in the glove compartment, just incase anything bad happens, or to not waste energy on the charger when I don't need it. Trying to figure out how to make my glove compartment less messy, but so far this is the best that I can do.
Note, no video. I will have that posted sometime, I just recorded it off an iPhone, so I will need to edit it so you get the full effect. Or not, I will probably just upload it, it will just take a few days.
Now, I want someone to do this, but even better than I did! Anything is possible!
Best of luck m8! That does sound amazing
Make sure the magnets are strong, otherwise a simple speed bump will toss away your nexus
You could try some HDD Neodymium magnets taken out of a HDD.
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You could try some HDD Neodymium magnets taken out of a HDD.
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Turns out the magnets I ordered are Neodymium, so I shall see how it works in a few days.
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Bumping because it is pretty much finished.
iLikeTurtuls said:
DONE! (kinda, still waiting on my magnets)
Behold, wireless charging in your car! No more tacky wires(well, in a way), no weird looking dock.
Items Needed for this exact project
Lexus IS300, any year, without navigation
Nexus 5 (or pretty much any other QI enabled device)
Soldering iron
Qi Charger
Lots of patience, 30 minutes to an hour of time
Small amount of soldering skills (just 2 soldering points)
A power source behind the "scenes" (panels), in this case, a GROM Audio device with a 5V output USB (female)
Micro USB cable that you are fine with leaving in the car
I think that's it.
Now, here's how I did it.
This is a wireless charger($11 cheap one off eBay, they have tons on there, output is 1A), torn down to its bare essentials. No more plastic. With the help of a soldering iron, I desoldered the plugs from the charging area to the middle piece that has the light to fit into...
This!
Well this, my Center console vent that is in my IS (No navi )
Top View.
Bottom Views, last one with the cable plugged in.
Now, it is installed! Notice that the panel fits on top without any modifying to the panels, except for the actual charger itself.
Now how does it power up you ask?
With the help of my Grom audio device (which also gives me aux on my stock Lexus Stereo.) I left the USB plug in access in the glove compartment, just incase anything bad happens, or to not waste energy on the charger when I don't need it. Trying to figure out how to make my glove compartment less messy, but so far this is the best that I can do.
Note, no video. I will have that posted sometime, I just recorded it off an iPhone, so I will need to edit it so you get the full effect. Or not, I will probably just upload it, it will just take a few days.
Now, I want someone to do this, but even better than I did! Anything is possible!
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Pircture links are broken. Try imgur album.
Update on pics please
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Update on pics please
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So I have some info to offer that may help people with this project. I did the same in the center console of my Miata, and here's a few things that may help people. First my setup.
Qi charger laying flat in center console, foam around the edges to keep the phone from moving (with a hole in the foam at the bottom, this is important). Immediately behind it I installed a fan because the phone would otherwise overheat because: I'm also running appradio unchained to an appradio head unit AND using a netgear push2tv for wireless display to the head unit.
This is a very nice setup, with a few flaws and considerations:
1. Phone likes to get hot and either barely charge or just maintain charge: the fan certainly helps, but also the phone being in a closed space with very low auto brightness helps keep this manageable
2. Must QI chargers will not accept straight vehicle voltage. My energizer pad would stop working as the voltage varied up to 14.3v when the car was running. As a result I added a simple few dollar voltage regulator inline to keep the voltage as close to 12v as possible. I should have tried to add in a delay as well since sometimes restarting tthe car will cause a momentary voltage drop big enough to confuse the charger, but it won't restart after the car does, leaving it flashing at me in error. This can also be solved by just going straight from off to start, and it doesn't happen all the time, so I'm dealing with it till I open it back up again.
Hope this helps someone
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Pircture links are broken. Try imgur album.
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Fixed, thank you for the idea.
compuw22c said:
Qi charger laying flat in center console, foam around the edges to keep the phone from moving (with a hole in the foam at the bottom, this is important). Immediately behind it I installed a fan because the phone would otherwise overheat because: I'm also running appradio unchained to an appradio head unit AND using a netgear push2tv for wireless display to the head unit.
This is a very nice setup, with a few flaws and considerations:
1. Phone likes to get hot and either barely charge or just maintain charge: the fan certainly helps, but also the phone being in a closed space with very low auto brightness helps keep this manageable
2. Must QI chargers will not accept straight vehicle voltage. My energizer pad would stop working as the voltage varied up to 14.3v when the car was running. As a result I added a simple few dollar voltage regulator inline to keep the voltage as close to 12v as possible. I should have tried to add in a delay as well since sometimes restarting tthe car will cause a momentary voltage drop big enough to confuse the charger, but it won't restart after the car does, leaving it flashing at me in error. This can also be solved by just going straight from off to start, and it doesn't happen all the time, so I'm dealing with it till I open it back up again.
Hope this helps someone
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The cable that I bought from grom audio outputs 5v (does not list the Amps.) Knowing a little bit of info about car chargers and how it pretty much rushes the power to the device before calming down after a second or 2, I made sure the USB is accessible in the glove compartment, as shown in picture 10. The wiring is a little messy, but I barely had time to install the unit.
Regarding the heat, I have an iPhone that I used for music (it was cheaper for me to buy it than buying an iPod), and a stock stereo so I don't have to worry about the heat too much, but being on the dash will definitely heat it up, along with the charging itself, especially during the heat. I'll most likely be using it at night, or on long trips, mainly because I have not got magnets to hold it down. I tried the hard drive magnets, however the ones I received were too small (the said 1x3, so I assume CM but it was MM.) I have a dead hard drive, which I might use for the magnets. I am looking for a magnet thats like the size of a quarter and 1mm thin, so pretty much a magnet quarter or penny hahah. If the magnet from my HDD don't work, then back to eBay again!