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[Q] BBM for Androids? Maybe

Hello, Newbie to Android world here - receiving my HTC Desire, hopefully, next week.
Just wanted to share some information regarding an application called "LiveProfile" which will soon be released that incorporates BBM for Androids, if im not mistaken.
Anyone heard of it?

Just looked it up and from what I can see its a replacement for bbm. It will work across iPhone, blackberry and android. Basically MSN messenger for phones.
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I've been using a BlackBerry for practically 2 years now and I have to say perhaps the only application that has the BB stand out among its rivals is the BlackBerry Messenger - now with LiveProfile, I'm very excited for the upcoming release of this app.

What's the advantage of this over WhatsApp or PingChat? Those are both multi-platform already, and with WhatsApp there's no need for a user name as it uses your phone number, so anyone in your contacts with the application is automatically in your friend list.

Yeah, why another one? ... PingChat is OK.
I know, competition is good.
But for this kind of app, I just want ONE ...
It seems impossible.
Wait until someone created multi of multi IM of multi IM ...

PingChat is a good one.

MJwitter: well, quite frankly, i believe there is one prime advantage over iphone's Whatsapp in terms of privacy. With "whatsapp" you do not necessarily have to have the contact on your list, just as long as he has your number he is able to send you msgs - which a lot of people would find annoying (you could probably ignore them, im not sure, but its a terrible feature initially)
gogol + lukehluke: i have never heard of ping chat before. i'll have to google it. However, as i have mentioned earlier i believe this application is intended to merge bbm, whatsapp and so on all under one roof - again I am uncertain of this information; however, hopefully this turns out to be the advantage of LiveProfile.
Nonetheless, thank you for sharing that information.
I just checked it out; however it seems to display an error when i clicked on "Join Now." Is this application not yet released?

there are quite a few BBM replacements available. They will never connect to BBM Contacts but provide the same functionality.
1. PingChat
2. Cnectd
3. LucidMessenger
4. Pmessenger
those are all i know of atm.

I'll try ping chat on HTC, just as soon as I get it by next week.
I heard about Pmessenger, but the reviews weren't very good.

Is WhatsApp ever coning out for android?, ive tried to convert a few people over to ping chat but they all use whatsapp
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I'm confused. Help me. What is the differences between pingchat,whatsapp and IM messenger such ebuddy, fringe, and nimbuzz?

LOL try to be patient, my friend.
Ive been trying to do that for the past 24 hrs too. fortunately, a few ppl installed it.
however,they dont need to "convert" to pingchat, ask them to install it and they could use both ;D

antu_pogroms said:
I'm confused. Help me. What is the differences between pingchat,whatsapp and IM messenger such ebuddy, fringe, and nimbuzz?
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Pingchat and Whatsapp? call themselves 'SMS Replacement' apps. Wherein they act like BBM so you can send a message whether a person is online or offline. These apps can only be used between their respective clients i.e. Pingchat-to-Pingchat, Whatsapp?-to-Whatsapp?
IM clients connect through AIM, MSN, Facebook &c.

Whatsapp Beta works. Google up Whatsapp android beta and youll find a download link on a facebook page. Install it and then you may get authorization error just wait like 1 day and try again and it will work. Been working well cant find any bugs with it yet.

I tried what you said but only info seems to say the beta is only available for people living in san fansisco and whatsapp put the app on your phone from there office?, cant seem to find a download link or apk file, if you have a link can you post it or reply to me with a pm to the link please, thanks.
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Ok i found it
http://beta.whatsapp.com/WhatsApp.apk
It installs fine but doesnt seem to work as you need to register to be a beta tester.
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yea like i said install it it will fail just wait and try again tommorow and it will start working. lots of people have reported success after waiting a while

Cool, i'll update in a day or 2 if its working, did you email them to request to be a beta tester or just try it after a few days and it worked without emailing them?
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Didn't send an email
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Cool, its started working.
Ok, my quick review - pingchat vs whatsapp
Its alot faster than pingchat in terms of messages being delivered, sometimes pingchat lags a very long time and also pingtchat soelmetimes doesnt give notifications unless you open the app, so whatsapp wins on those two.
But pingchat has a MUCH better look and feet to it, and it works on phone numbers & ID's so you can use either, but whatsapp only works over phone numbers, so unless i have the persons phone number i cant message them on whatsapp, but on pingchat you can just use there id and dont need there phone number so pingchat wins on that.
So both have goods & bads, ping chat is free though which is a plus, if you check in the account info in the whatsapp beta, it says it expires in November 2010, so i asume thats when it goes live in the android marketplace, it also has an upgrade option so it will definatly be a paid app when its released and have a limeted free use period
More people use whatsapp so its better "at the moment", but pingchat has a much better feel to it, so hopfully more people start using pingchat.
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Facebook query

Hi
A few months ago I was using BB Storm 2 and was alerted when ever someone posted on my Facebook or commented on something I had commented on
Does this do that too or is that just a BB thing
Thanks

Sounds like you're on about push alerts. Depending on who you believe v1.5.0 on the Desire was meant to include these but I've never had them so I'd say no it currently doesn't include them
You can set up you account to send you an email when those events happen but the app will only alert to messages, friend requests & event invites

So if its not included could I not just install the app

efcgenius said:
So if its not included could I not just install the app
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Yes, you can and there is a new version out today. But some people seem to get the notifications and some don't.

As an aside, the FB app is already on the Desire - just update it to v1.5.1 (todays update) via the Market
Not had any push notifications so far so doubt it's working...seems the BB/iPhone version are better than the Android one

I get push notifications for new messages,friend requests and event invites, but I had to set the app to never poll,rather than every 30 minutes etc. That should give you push notifications. But it's still quite limited, you don't get anything when someone comments on a photo etc.
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The only notifications I get every from facebook are when I get messages or friend requests. But most seem to be quite delayed at times, between when they're actually sent and when I get my notification on my phone.
Only downside to android is the lack of a good well working facebook app.

z4ppy said:
The only notifications I get every from facebook are when I get messages or friend requests. But most seem to be quite delayed at times, between when they're actually sent and when I get my notification on my phone.
Only downside to android is the lack of a good well working facebook app.
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Facebook need to pull their finger out their arse and actually make a decent app. Fair enough, it's harder to make an Android app than an iPhone app since there are loads of different models.... but still.
As for push notifications, they're suppose to work if you have 2.2+ but they don't.

theres a few 3rd party facebook apps that have push notifications

[How To] Fix push notifications in the official Facebook app

Hey guys,
So, you know that official Facebook app is supposed to have push notifications, right? Yeah? Well, it apparently does, they just never worked for me at all. Turns out, there's a fix, and it's quite the strange one - you have to sign into the Facebook app on a Blackberry. Once you've done that, you'll start getting push notifications for wall posts, comments, and event invites, with an entirely new notification icon. Weird, no?
Of course, it's not like I had a recent BB device just lying around.. Thankfully, the Blackberry emulator software works just fine for our purposes. I've written up a guide for the curious, with links to the emulator software and so forth.
Seems the fix was found in May over at AndroidCentral, but I'd certainly not seen it posted anywhere I frequent, and had to spend some time searching for a fix to stumble across the post - hence this topic.
Let me know if it works for you.

Really interesting, I'd like to try and see!
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Cheers - Weird, isn't it? I'm planning to make a walkthrough video later on today, unfortunately my Galaxy S II's camera is the best I have, so I'll need to convince the girlfriend to let me tinker with her Nexus One to show how it's done.. We'll see if she lets me.

This trick worked for me.

I've always had that notification icon (little sign-post looking thing), and have never signed in on a Blackberry, so I guess mine have always worked for some reason.

Interesting, have you got anything else of note authorised on your Facebook account?
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Didn't work for me, got no notifications of the private messages that I received since doing this

tylerdurden83 said:
Didn't work for me, got no notifications of the private messages that I received since doing this
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What do you mean by 'private messages'? Facebook chat/messenger? This works for wall posts, comments, and event invites, not messages - that's what the separate Facebook Messenger app is for.

Worked 100 percent for me. Thanks
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Then I might have said something stupid, I'll keep you updated.
One observation tho, in your guide you say that it's possible, once you enable this, to deactivate the periodic check, since you get push notifications. I agreed and removed it. If push doesn't "push" private messages tho, I guess that I'll have to re-enable the periodic checks, since that checks private messages received too.

Would you be able to do this for us, if we give you our Facebook credentials? (big big sign of trust I know )
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Update, it works
Altho I wish it would push private messages too, so that I could remove the periodic update of 30 min

Works perfect! Thank you sooo much!
[Don't forget to activate notifications in BB-App, like I did first ]

cyberpunk627 said:
Would you be able to do this for us, if we give you our Facebook credentials? (big big sign of trust I know )
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I guess I could if you really wanted. Do you not have access to a Windows PC to use the emulator?
tylerdurden83 said:
Update, it works
Altho I wish it would push private messages too, so that I could remove the periodic update of 30 min
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Glad to hear it's working - But isn't that what this is for?
hansbert said:
Works perfect! Thank you sooo much!
[Don't forget to activate notifications in BB-App, like I did first ]
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Ooh, that might help. I'm pretty sure they were enabled by default when I tried it, was that not the case for you? Anyone else have the same experience? Happy to update the guide if need be.

tylerdurden83 said:
Update, it works
Altho I wish it would push private messages too, so that I could remove the periodic update of 30 min
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Private messages get pushed to me and have done so for the past 2 months, something must be up on your end. Make sure you've turned on notifications for messages in the FB app, if that doesn't work then I'm out of ideas mate

Could you send me your Database files in /data/data/com.facebook.katana/databases after cleaning them from any private information ( I'm particularly interested in the key_value database ).
I'm wondering if there's any way we can activate it without this long process, so I wanna compare settings from a push activated device and a not push activated one.

So why do you think this wasn't implemented in the app itself?
Is it because its buggy or a battery drainer?
Or is it because Apple and RIM pay royalties to Facebook to have the better features?

Thanks man ... working like a charm here.

I have always got fb notifications without having to do any of this.
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worked a treat for me, nolonger need Fb to check every hour so less battery drain

Facebook app update!

Finally, our Facebook looks like the iPhone one (aka way more functional). I love the new layout, and it's working well for me so far!
Post any feedback on the changes if you have any!

I'm just happy I can comment on notifications again lol
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It doesn't suck anymore. The app is both more practical and functional. Love it!
It's about time

It seems to have killed my push notifications [via the blackberry method]
These guys really seem incapable of doing anything right.
Push notifications should be the easiest thing in the world to have working.

I had to turn message notifications off, because with the update it would keep renotifying me about the same message, over & over & over...

abodamer said:
I had to turn message notifications off, because with the update it would keep renotifying me about the same message, over & over & over...
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It's always done that for me. I get about 100 notifications from FB a day telling me I have "x" many messages... just the same ones, nothing new.

looks exactly like the mobile website (which is what i always used). nothing different. fail IMO

awesomeindeed said:
It's always done that for me. I get about 100 notifications from FB a day telling me I have "x" many messages... just the same ones, nothing new.
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I respectfully disagree. The app was acting correctly for me until this update. Now like you said, I keep getting message notifications for the same ones over and over again.
This is another example of my Snowflake Theory of Epic Touch 4G Phones. No two are exactly alike.

Why use the Mobil app when the Mobil site works fine and sends text notifications .I just sync contacts with social hub to get contact pictures since I can't delete it
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working great so far. I like it.

ayman86 said:
looks exactly like the mobile website (which is what i always used). nothing different. fail IMO
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Exactly why I don't use the app.

phatmanxxl said:
Exactly why I don't use the app.
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I like having the app because I can upload pics easily, but I agree the website is usually better. I've been using the app today and it really is much better, at least for me.
I'm not a heavy FB user so maybe that's hy I'm not seeing the issues

Personally, I'm a Friendcaster fan. I gave up on the official app a couple months ago.
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I'm a photographer so I love that the new update loads pix faster so I can show off my work faster, great picture quality too. awesome for uploads, no difference in quality uploaded mobile or desktop version.
Yes it makes the same appearance as mobile which is great. Ads just a pinch more functionality.
.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.

I did the same. You won't be disappointed by this update.
bondosho said:
Personally, I'm a Friendcaster fan. I gave up on the official app a couple months ago.
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GalaXy S ll ROMSB 1.9.8r @ 1200x720 ;D

Remember to download the "permissions denied" app from Stephen (STERICSON) to restrict the facebook app permissions from:
YOUR MESSAGES
EDIT SMS OR MMS
Allows application to write to SMS messages stored on your device or SIM card. Malicious applications may delete your messages.
RECEIVE SMS
Allows application to receive and process SMS messages. Malicious applications may monitor your messages or delete them without showing them to you.
READ SMS OR MMS
Allows application to read SMS messages stored on your device or SIM card. Malicious applications may read your confidential messages.
SEND SMS MESSAGES
Allows application to send SMS messages. Malicious applications may cost you money by sending messages without your confirmation.
These permissions serve NO PURPOSE toward the functionality of the app!

It's even better than ios version... The android version can tag someone using @ in conversation.. The ios one still couldn't do that the last time i check...
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With the old Facebook I can post pictures to specific albums....with this new one I can't...and that sucks!!
Sent from a Galaxy far far away...

Henri Blanche said:
I respectfully disagree. The app was acting correctly for me until this update. Now like you said, I keep getting message notifications for the same ones over and over again.
This is another example of my Snowflake Theory of Epic Touch 4G Phones. No two are exactly alike.
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I have never even once had the FB app notifications correctly notify me of things. And I have used it on the N1, Hero, Evo 4G, Evo 3D, NS4G, GSII... it has always been that way in my experience.

Like Comments in Photos
I like the latest update, however, you are still UNABLE to like comments that are made on a photo or even UNABLE to view who likes a photo that you were tagged in!! Anybody else out there realize this as well?

Gtalk vs G+ messenger

Hello,
What do think about them? I feel they are almost the same... can I disable talk and keep only messenger? Have any one tried that?
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I wish G+ messenger had the same ICS style UI as GTalk . But on G+ you can text pics and use hangouts. The only thing I don't like about G+ messenger is there is no led notification which GTalk has.
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I don't see why Google doesn't just unify all of its messaging services (Google voice/talk and g+ messenger) into one service. Hopefully that's where it's heading.
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Jameslepable said:
I don't see why Google doesn't just unify all of its messaging services (Google voice/talk and g+ messenger) into one service. Hopefully that's where it's heading.
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I've been talking about this with my friends for the longest time. The fact that GTalk can't send files is a kind of a huge issue for me as other wise its a great service. What I would love to see Google do is take a kind of Apple approach to it.. One messaging app that can text from your phones number or your Google voice number as you so designate, and, if the person your messaging is likewise using an Android 4.0.x and above platform, it would automatically send via data with higher limits to what you could send as opposed to text, and it would link to video calls and hangouts and such like GTalk and Messenger, can send files other than pictures.
Basically, one unified messenger to rule them all. I am not a huge apple fan, but I like the concept of iMessage and I know that if El Goog took the time to make it so, they could unify their services into one glorious messaging platform.
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GTalk anyday.
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lovelymanmk said:
Hello,
What do think about them? I feel they are almost the same... can I disable talk and keep only messenger? Have any one tried that?
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Unfortunately they are very different. Messenger is mobile only and requires the user have the G+ app but it does offer more features. GTalk allows you to message anyone on an Android or through the web on Gmail or G+. They really need to merge these messaging services into one as it is very confusing.

Andro X said:
I wish G+ messenger had the same ICS style UI as GTalk . But on G+ you can text pics and use hangouts. The only thing I don't like about G+ messenger is there is no led notification which GTalk has.
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Install lightflow

Gtalk is the backend for android push service.
Hopefully they do integrate their talk services but don't disable Gtalk...
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Google just bought Meebo so I would assume we will see some improvements in this area later this year or early next year at the latest. They have to know their current implementation is not very good.

I'm confused. The GTalk and GChat programs on a PC have been able to send files for years. And on the phone neither GTalk or G+ Messenger can send files, so I'm not sure where that comparison came from.
To share large files (or 300 photos) just toss them on Google Drive or Dropbox. I haven't checked, but there's also probably an app to take advantage of Wifi-Direct to "beam" it locally.
Also, G+ messenger doesn't have a standalone PC application. That is no good for unifying. I use the PC app at home/work, and phone app elsewhere. Having to keep your browser open to chat is a real nuisance IMHO.

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I'm confused. The GTalk and GChat programs on a PC have been able to send files for years. And on the phone neither GTalk or G+ Messenger can send files, so I'm not sure where that comparison came from.
To share large files (or 300 photos) just toss them on Google Drive or Dropbox. I haven't checked, but there's also probably an app to take advantage of Wifi-Direct to "beam" it locally.
Also, G+ messenger doesn't have a standalone PC application. That is no good for unifying. I use the PC app at home/work, and phone app elsewhere. Having to keep your browser open to chat is a real nuisance IMHO.
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However the GTalk client on Android does not allow for sending any files whatsoever. And while yes you could use drop box or drive or others as a workaround, what I'm saying is that including that support on the Android Platform app would be amazing. And a huge incentive to use it over regular texting.
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Gene_Bailey said:
However the GTalk client on Android does not allow for sending any files whatsoever. And while yes you could use drop box or drive or others as a workaround, what I'm saying is that including that support on the Android Platform app would be amazing. And a huge incentive to use it over regular texting.
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There is nothing better than a good ticket:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=43010
maybe if it's starred enough google will be pushed to finally make it happen? I would love to see the integration, in the gtalk UI with additional features like sending files/pictures and improved notifications ( http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=43009 )

I've already voted
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.wojtek said:
There is nothing better than a good ticket:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=43010
maybe if it's starred enough google will be pushed to finally make it happen? I would love to see the integration, in the gtalk UI with additional features like sending files/pictures and improved notifications ( http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=43009 )
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I starred this as well. Gonna try and create a but of a stir to gain it some recognition online to with a few articles submitted to different websites.
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Gene_Bailey said:
I starred this as well. Gonna try and create a but of a stir to gain it some recognition online to with a few articles submitted to different websites.
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Thanks. That would be nice to get this some traction. There were actually already some articles pointing out the issue but those faded away without any impact.
Nevertheless - it can't be ruled out that google is already working on this (*fingers crossed*)

I prefer Gtalk being left alone. Also I don't know why but Google keeps adding random people to my g+ messenger contact list. They are not on my circles either.

niks4101 said:
I prefer Gtalk being left alone. Also I don't know why but Google keeps adding random people to my g+ messenger contact list. They are not on my circles either.
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maybe you have added them as following? Had same problem but then I went to chat -> privacy settings and selected "my circles" and in g+ settings I selected only a few close circles as "my circles" and actually the list is waaay shorter (and is basically the same as in gtalk).