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application to setup hotmail as push mail

i successfully set up my hotmail in my X1, set the sync frequency to As Items Arrive, intending to activate push mail.
but now everytime i have new mail, i am not notified at all, not even showing of the numbers of new mails in the Today Screen.
i still need to manually go Menu > Send/Receive to update my mailbox.
any1 got solution or what application i need install?
thanks

yes: GMAIL lol
This would be a workaround, but it would work.
1. Create a Gmail account.
2. Forward your Hotmail to Gmail.
3. Set up your Gmail so that you can reply using your Hotmail account. (yeah you can do that...nifty eh?)
4. Go to your Outlook on your phone and set up "gmail-sync" as your push mail account to retrieve from. It's in beta right now but is working 100% perfectly on my Kaiser. (I'm in here because I'm getting a SEX1 in a couple days ) I frickin' LOVE IT - it pushes IMMEDIATELY as soon as the mail comes in. Instructions here:
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=winmo
5. Now all your e-mails will be stored to your phone permanently too, instead of the inbox getting wiped every time you send receive, or whenever you have your timing set up for that.
6. Forget about Hotmail and start using Gmail lol. Just kidding...but if you set it up that way, you can still use your Hotmail completely, Gmail will be practically invisible to you. (Or is it the other way around? lol)
Seriously, Google's free push e-mail service is amaaazing. I am LOVING it.

ohhh pls tell me how to fwd mails
in aol /hotmail pls

Syncing frequency to As Items Arrive works perfectly for me.

I confirm that both hotmail and gmail works as a push mail on my XPERIA.
For hotmail, you can just use windows live connection setup and choose/set "as items arrive" and set the time as "always". For gmail, you can use the activesync feature on outlook mobile as have been told by deezy7 above.
Or else, you can use the feature from Emoze service.

hi all.
thanks for ur advices.
i did add my hotmail using the Windows Live program, did set to "as items arrive" and did set for "always"
but nothing ever appear in my pjone for new mail unless i do it manually using "send/receive"
i prefer to use my hotmail acc ley.
any1 pls help mi.
thanks

deezy7 said:
yes: GMAIL lol
This would be a workaround, but it would work.
1. Create a Gmail account.
2. Forward your Hotmail to Gmail.
3. Set up your Gmail so that you can reply using your Hotmail account. (yeah you can do that...nifty eh?)
4. Go to your Outlook on your phone and set up "gmail-sync" as your push mail account to retrieve from. It's in beta right now but is working 100% perfectly on my Kaiser. (I'm in here because I'm getting a SEX1 in a couple days ) I frickin' LOVE IT - it pushes IMMEDIATELY as soon as the mail comes in. Instructions here:
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=winmo
5. Now all your e-mails will be stored to your phone permanently too, instead of the inbox getting wiped every time you send receive, or whenever you have your timing set up for that.
6. Forget about Hotmail and start using Gmail lol. Just kidding...but if you set it up that way, you can still use your Hotmail completely, Gmail will be practically invisible to you. (Or is it the other way around? lol)
Seriously, Google's free push e-mail service is amaaazing. I am LOVING it.
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I just set this up and it works Thank u for an explanation
But I have a question. Now only one of my mail accounts deliver mail. Is there an option to set more e-mail accounts to use push mail feature ?
If so how to do it ?

icbicb said:
Is there an option to set more e-mail accounts to use push mail feature ?
If so how to do it ?
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If you would like to have a free account for push mail service you should try Emoze. I have been playing with Emoze and honestly it helps me much to get my XPERIA have numerous mail account which works as a push mail ....

Ok, I did some workaround, created another gmail account and forwarded all my accounts to that one, and I receiving only that one.
Maybe not the best solution , but I prefer not to use online services like mobipush and such where u leave them your user name and password for each account u have...

As an alternative to Emoze i use Seven Beta. It provides near realtime push on most types of account.

icbicb said:
Ok, I did some workaround, created another gmail account and forwarded all my accounts to that one, and I receiving only that one.
Maybe not the best solution , but I prefer not to use online services like mobipush and such where u leave them your user name and password for each account u have...
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Hey icbicb, in response to your other question as well, my suggestion would have been to do what you already did, which is create another gmail acccount I also prefer not to use any other online services, and was very happy when Google came out with Gmail Sync, since I've already been using my gmail account for five years, and don't have to give out sensitive information to yet another company
To those here using other services, I'd suggest you give Gmail Sync a try. Deedee, I noticed you said that Seven Beta provides you with near realtime push. I've noticed with Gmail Sync, and having my Gmail open at the same time on my pc at work, that Gmail Sync pushes in actual realtime! I'll hear the notification on my phone first before my page refreshes to show me my new e-mail! Also, I should mention that I am using gmail plug-ins to autoupdate the screen when new e-mails come in, and the Gmail sync sends them to my phone simultaneously or even before my page refreshes, thus, I know that it is actual real-time. Just like blackberry's service! I'm in love with it right now
icbicb, I'm glad it's working out for you , loyjwe I hope you are able to give this a try...

it's a good solution, but if i transfert the mail from hotmail to gmail they will be of the hotmail box...
And it's a probleme for me...
do you have a solution for that
(excus me for my bad english)

Big advantage of Seven Beta is that it works for almost all POP3/IMAP email systems and it keeps all the accounts separate so that replies from your PPC keep the correct return address.
I have it working on Gmail x 2, Hotmail and a POP3 account and all four accounts are independant of each other.
I said near real time sync as i didn't want to claim real time in case it wasn't. I rarely use the web interface since starting Seven so haven't been in a position to check. As i tell the BB users at work if you have time to compare the two delivery times then maybe you don't need a BB.

titeloo said:
it's a good solution, but if i transfert the mail from hotmail to gmail they will be of the hotmail box...
And it's a probleme for me...
do you have a solution for that
(excus me for my bad english)
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Hi titeloo...bad english is okay lol, but, I don't really understand what you mean by "they will be of the hotmail box..." need further explanation!!
@Deedee, gmail does that also....so... for example, when you get mail forwarded to your gmail account, if it was originally sent to your hotmail account, when you reply on the phone, it will reply from the hotmail account. Gmail's set up pretty good that way. I believe right now though they have a limit on the number of accounts you can send mail from, not sure if it is 3 or 4. So it's pretty neat that Seven Beta keeps all accounts separate ...btw very nice avatar

Seven is only restricted by the number of accounts that can be set up in WM, think it's 8 in total, that includes your ActiveSync/Exchange and SMS accounts.
Thanks for the compliment. Always prefer to use real piccies for avatars where practical.

gmail notifications? only works for mail in inbox?

using the gmail app, and it works if i get a mail in the inbox, but not if it's in a label only.
any way of fixing this?

If you have a certain Label set that you need notifications for, you're going to have to turn off "skip the inbox" in your filtering.

well, that's carp! the whole point of labels is to filter the emails. might as well just leave everything in one big pile in the inbox
hopefully, there'll be a proper mail app at some point - the HTC one does the same thing but worse - it doesn't detect any emails apart from the inbox at all.
ta for the quick reply though

The default apps are rather rubbish, Have you tried K9 or anything else?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

k9? nope. off to google

Tried it, its the same as the gmail app.

Press menu.
Select settings.
Select labels.
Change setting for the label you want from none to sync all or however many days.
Easy peasy

found the option now. weird
ta
will see how it works out

I had no idea I could scroll in the label section

tommo123 said:
well, that's carp! the whole point of labels is to filter the emails. might as well just leave everything in one big pile in the inbox
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Well to be fair it's how Google DID design their mail. You have to remember they're search experts.
The problem is people still don't get the concept of "labels" and use them like "folders". If you were using folders it would make sense to have notifications for them. Most IMAP clients provide for this. Any given email can only exist in one folder unless you make a copy.
With labels a single email could have several labels. No copying necessary. If you had notifications for say three of the labels you used and one mail had three of those labels you'd get three notifications for that single email.
What I'm saying, especially with Gmail, don't worry about it all being in the inbox. As long as things are filtered and labeled appropriately you should still be able to sort them how you want using those labels and as a last resort you have the BEST email search engine on Earth provided by the company at the forefront of search.

i get labels and some do share 'folders', but in the end, i'd rather have 3 notifications for 1 mail than none tbh.
i can hope though

Search for gmail label notifier in the market. Works great.

Gmail will not grab all my email

Hey all. I switched over from BB and I love everything about the Incredible except for 1 thing....email. I have my personal email and my work email set up through Gmail (under Accounts & Settings Tab) and I followed the How-To that was put up over at Android Central to use as a push server. Well the problem I have is that when Gmail checks, or fetches whatever it is, it will not grab all the new email that has come in. I travel alot and I rely on my phone to get my messages and unfortunately this one has let me down time after time. I am rooted and I have tried 4 different ROM's, cleared cache in gmail app, along with deleting and readding my accounts. I missed a couple important emails that required a quick reply to get a job but Gmail never got them (online or sent to my phone), it did grab a few messages after that, but missed 5 or 6 again. Any ideas??? If I use the HTC Stock email app I usually set it to check every 15 minutes but that is really hard on my battery. Thanks for any input

Gmail is PUSH there are no options to set check frequency and so forth. Make sure that in Accounts & Sync you have auto-sync and background sync enabled (these are universal features).

SynbiosVyse said:
Gmail is PUSH there are no options to set check frequency and so forth. Make sure that in Accounts & Sync you have auto-sync and background sync enabled (these are universal features).
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Both of those are checked. The frequency check I was talking about is in the stock email app, not the Gmail App. I understand that Gmail is Push, but what I don't understand is why it will get some emails and not others. There is no reasoning behind (same domain, etc.), I did apply a filter so that nothing goes to spam but it hasn't helped at all. Thanks for the reply though, any other ideas?

Do you have multiple e-mail addresses going to the same place?
I would disable POP and IMAP features in gmail options (on your PC). If you do that you won't be able to use Outlook or e-mail clients but you will be able to check your mail in a browser and on your phone with push.
If that still doesn't work then try separating your work e-mail. Have your gmail on your phone be strictly gmail, and then have your work email go to a different folder and have that setup with imap, pop, exchange, or whatever your work email has. This is how I do it.

SynbiosVyse said:
Do you have multiple e-mail addresses going to the same place?
I would disable POP and IMAP features in gmail options (on your PC). If you do that you won't be able to use Outlook or e-mail clients but you will be able to check your mail in a browser and on your phone with push.
If that still doesn't work then try separating your work e-mail. Have your gmail on your phone be strictly gmail, and then have your work email go to a different folder and have that setup with imap, pop, exchange, or whatever your work email has. This is how I do it.
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I'll give it a try. Thanks for the recommendation!

[Q] Gmail - Unable to Delete email? It's only Archiving (to All Mail)

I've done my due diligence (searching for HOURS on end), so I know this has been discussed many times but I still have not seen any sort of solution or progress on how to fix the issue.
Here is the issue: Gmail/Google accounts in WP7, when you press the Trash-can icon to delete your email(s), it does not actually move the email to the 'Trash' folder (or how Gmail understands it, the 'Trash' label). It simply removes the 'Inbox' label but still keeps the message under 'All Mail'.
I've tried everything - set up my email account as an ActiveSync account and tried deleting, going to my Gmail (or any other of my email accounts that resides on Google Apps) account settings via the web browser and try fiddling with the Advanced IMAP options, but nothing.
Does anyone have any solution for this? Unfortunately, this is pretty much a dealbreaker for me with WP7 - I just purchased the HTC Trophy. I want to really love the OS/device (and I do love the OS) but being able to properly delete my Google/Gmail emails is crucial.
I've heard some people, as a temporary stop-gap, to just use the "Move to Folder" and move the email message to [Gmail]\Trash, but I don't see that folder in WP7. Any ideas on this?
Any help or insight in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

There is no solution (as in setting you can change in WP7 or on google.com) that changes this behavior. The only real option is to occasionally log in to your email account on the website and purge old mail from all mail. That's what I do about once every couple of months.

Thanks for the response. That's a real bummer. Do you or anyone know if this is something Microsoft plans on fixing? Basically it just entails making the Delete/Trash Can -> Remove Inbox Label + Add Trash Label to the message.
Also, do you know how I could view the [Gmail]\Trash folder/label? When I try to browse All Folders, it doesn't show up. Any ideas?
Thanks.

Avazee said:
Does anyone have any solution for this? Unfortunately, this is pretty much a dealbreaker for me with WP7 - I just purchased the HTC Trophy. I want to really love the OS/device (and I do love the OS) but being able to properly delete my Google/Gmail emails is crucial.
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You should be able to change imap settings in gmail. There's a few articles I found, but they're a bit old, and I'm apparently too new of a member to link. I've gone ahead to write a few instructions.
1. Go to settings in your gmail
2. Go to the "Forwarding and POP/IMAP" tab
3. In IMAP access, under "When I mark a message in IMAP as deleted:" select "Auto-expunge off"
4. In IMAP access, under "When a message is marked as deleted and expunged from the last visible IMAP folder:" select "Move the message to the Trash" or "Immediately delete the message forever"
I'm still trying to figure out how exactly the behavior works on my own device. From my understanding, by doing this, you'll send deleted message to the trash rather than archive. It appears that you lose the "instant" server update (so you might have emails that you delete on your phone stay in your inbox as unread for a while).
**edit for further research - It appears that your message will only be deleted if there are no other labels for it. Apparently [gmail]all mail counts as a label. So what the heck did I tell you to do?

Thanks for the reply. I don't understand what your last part meant..the part about your edit for further research. Please clarify. Thanks.
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bver100 said:
It appears that your message will only be deleted if there are no other labels for it. Apparently [gmail]all mail counts as a label. So what the heck did I tell you to do?
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This, and it's the same for IOS, not a WP7 issue.
I read numerous guides looking for a solution but there isn't one. If an email exists in another view, i.e. "All Mail" then it won't be deleted.
After using IOS and WP7 this was one of the main reasons for moving to Android. It may seem a bit extreme but I hate having email I don't need. Everything gets read and deleted.

What you say is true in a technical sense, but it misses the underlying issue. Gmail has one label, Gmail/Trash, that is special. Any email that is sent there automatically has all other labels removed. However, it is up to an email client to apply the label. For example, the Thunderbird email client on Windows does just that. If I read an email in my Inbox, and then click the Delete button, Thunderbird sends and IMAP notification to Gmail to apply the Gmail/Trash label to the message, and it is instantly gone from both my Inbox and All Mail. And the Gmail/Trash label is automatically purged after 30 days.
The problem with WP7 and iOS is that they don't (and possibly can't) send the same notification. All they currently do is notify Gmail to remove the Inbox label. And, as has already been noted, the fact that the email is still in All Mail causes it to be retained on the server.

Thanks for the info, guys. I realize and understand that the culprit is the WP7 mail client, not Gmail.
As a temporary workaround (I am seriously hoping they fix this.. you guys should visit http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...eting-email-in-gmail-really-delete-?ref=title to vote for adding this feature), I created a new label called "WP7 Trash". From now on, when I want to "delete" mail, I simply move to to that folder/label in the WP7 mail client, and then anytime down the road I can log into my accounts and just delete all the mail in that folder/label.
Kind of kludgy, but it's the only thing I can think of...
Let me know your thoughts.

After futzing around a bit more on the internet, i've found that some people are able to get the desired "trash button = delete" action if you add your gmail account as an Exchange account instead of as a "Google Account". I haven't tried it yet, but since it isn't dealing with Gmail's odd IMAP implementation, perhaps you will get better results.

Setting up your Gmail account as an Exchange/ActiveSync account doesn't work - I've tested it several times and nothing. I do have my accounts set up as Exchange/ActiveSync because I've heard that it uses less battery than using the "Add Google Email Account" option in WP7.
The only temp-solution I've found is the create a WP7-Trash label and move messages to that folder (for later deletion once you log into the Gmail web interface).
If anyone CAN get the Delete = Trash working on ActiveSync/Exchange setups, by all means let us know!

Virgin media email.

What is everybody else out there using for there Virgin/Ntlworld emails?
I was using the Gmail app and set my online Gmail account to fetch my mail from Virgin but then decided to try the native mail app on my One X which was easy to set up and worked fine. However, after a few days it always deletes the mail in your inbox with no option i could find to save or keep certain emails. This annoyed me so i went on the hunt for an alternative and found K9-mail which was getting good reviews so i installed that. After setting up my mail account and testing i found that although it was very customisable and looked good, the emails deleted even quicker from my inbox and again no way of keeping them. I've since tried Email Exchange which again looked ok and was easy to setup but it has the same problem. Is there any email client out there that works with Virgin/Ntlworld and doesn't keep deleting your mail without any option to save?

Set it up as IMAP not POP3. Usually with POP3 there is an option to leave a copy of emails on the server, but IMAP is better for that type of usage.

It is leaving a copy of the mail on the server, it's just not staying in my inbox on my phone.

Oh! Last time I set up an email account, the option to retrieve all emails, or last 3 days was in there. It's not easy to find, there used to be different settings screens. Just keep trying, I think you can get to settings from the page with all accounts as well as individual accounts.

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Oh! Last time I set up an email account, the option to retrieve all emails, or last 3 days was in there. It's not easy to find, there used to be different settings screens. Just keep trying, I think you can get to settings from the page with all accounts as well as individual accounts.
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Thanks Ben, i'm now back with the stock htc mail client and have found the option you described and set it to 7 days.
Fingers crossed. :fingers-crossed: