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Can't get to bootloader!

When ever I try to get to bootloader mode, my phone just comes up to the tri-color screen. I press and hold the left OK key along with the power button, then do a soft reset. I only get to the tri-color screen. Can someone help me out with this please...I'm trying to upgrade to a WM6.1 rom on my 8525 via SD card.

1jaxstate1 said:
When ever I try to get to bootloader mode, my phone just comes up to the tri-color screen.
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the tri-color screen is the bootloader. (read the wiki)
wfg
starbase64

1jaxstate1 said:
When ever I try to get to bootloader mode, my phone just comes up to the tri-color screen. I press and hold the left OK key along with the power button, then do a soft reset. I only get to the tri-color screen. Can someone help me out with this please...I'm trying to upgrade to a WM6.1 rom on my 8525 via SD card.
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The tri-color screen IS the bootloader. I have found with my 8525, that if you turn the device off (power button for 5 seconds, then tap OK), all you need do is hold the side OK and the power button together for a few seconds. No need to find the reset hole if the device is OFF.
If you have an SD card in the device (with a copy of HERMIMG.NBH on it), the Tri-Color screen will come up, searching the card. When the NBH file has been found, it will show you the various parts that the file includes, and prompt you to press the power button to begin.
It's really easy this way. I rarely flash through USB anymore.
Hope this helps,
-pvs

Wow..thanks for the speedy response. I'll give it a try. Thanks again.

When I try to upgrade via SD, the bootloader never reads the SD card, it just sits...and says serial at the bottom of the screen.
When I try to upgrade via USB, after I start the RUU, the active sync connection is broken, and the phone goes into the bootloader screen and just sits...and says USB at the bottom of the screen.
If anyone has had this problem, please let me know. If not..I guess I'll just have to go out and buy a Tilt.
Current ROM: 2.15.502.3
Current Radio: 1.40.30.00

SUCCESS!!!!
Thanks for your help. My company has the firewall on and it, for some reason was killing my active sync connection. I was able to upgrade via USB. And this ROM is looking great starbase64

1jaxstate1 said:
When I try to upgrade via SD, the bootloader never reads the SD card, it just sits...and says serial at the bottom of the screen.
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1) Is your SD card freshly formatted (FAT32)?
2) have you installed HardSPL? If not, do it.
3) Are you sure you spelled the name of the NBH correctly? HERMIMG.NBH
4) Copy HERMIMG.NBH to the root of your SD card
5) Shut off the device (power off all the way)
6) Insert the SD card with only the one file (HERMIMG.NBH) on it
7) Press the side OK button and the power button simultaneously for a couple of seconds
8) your device should start up, and the bootloader will look for the HERMIMG.NBH file
9) If all the above is done corectly, your device SHOULD find the NBH and tell you what parts it contains, then ask you if you wish to proceed, by pressing the power key. If this isn't happening for you, I'm afraid I don't have any other suggestions for you.
1jaxstate1 said:
When I try to upgrade via USB, after I start the RUU, the active sync connection is broken, and the phone goes into the bootloader screen and just sits...and says USB at the bottom of the screen.
If anyone has had this problem, please let me know.
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Others HAVE had this problem. You need to disable one of the settings in ActiveSync, but I don't remember which one. Try doing a search under the main HERMES forum, including all subforums. This is one of those questions that gets asked a lot, so be prepared to sift through all the repetitive threads (GOD, if only people would SEARCH first!).
1jaxstate1 said:
If not..I guess I'll just have to go out and buy a Tilt.
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You might want to read THIS, first
Good luck,
-pvs

when you say copy the .nbh file to the root of the SD card what exactly do you mean. When i put the SD card in there and format it its completely empty with nothing there, then the only option i have is open the SD card folder and put it in there, is that correct?

okay so i just did the SD card flashing, said on the screen it was flashing and did the whole thing fine. Told me it was complete so i pressed the power the button to restart the phone and no matter how many times i restart the phone it just boots into Tri color screen and says serial at the bottom.
I tried soft reset and removing the battery no matter how many times i do it, always comes back to Tri color screen.. help!

ahhhhwhoa said:
okay so i just did the SD card flashing, said on the screen it was flashing and did the whole thing fine. Told me it was complete so i pressed the power the button to restart the phone and no matter how many times i restart the phone it just boots into Tri color screen and says serial at the bottom.
I tried soft reset and removing the battery no matter how many times i do it, always comes back to Tri color screen.. help!
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Hmmm, I typically do a RESET after the flash process completes. Never tried shutting down using the power button. So now your device is stuck in BL? I'm not sure of the procedures you need to try to escape that one, but I KNOW it's been discussed here in the forums. You MIGHT try flashing a different ROM. It might be the simplest way to recover. If that doesn't work, you might want to check the Wiki HERE.
Good luck!
-pvs

Upgrade ROM code error

I have flashed many Custome ROM's before. I have HardSPL installed on my phone.
I tried flashing to a ROM (I forget which one now, I think Cloudfa or something) and it stopped at about 15%. The Update utility stopped as well.
I cannot connect to bootloader at all. I tried holding down on Volume down/Reset to enter bootloader, but the thing is that it's already in bootloader with the message "Upgrade ROM code error, Please try again"
ActiveSync doesn't see my phone either. In fact all it does is just sit on the bootloader screen with that error...
Please Help... Thanks You...

A normal soft reset still brings you back to Bootloader?
What happens when you plug in your device? Does it not change from serial to USB at the bottom?

band27 said:
A normal soft reset still brings you back to Bootloader?
What happens when you plug in your device? Does it not change from serial to USB at the bottom?
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Sorry. Yes it does show USB when plugged in, but won't respond to anything that I have tried software wise. It does not switch from this bootloader/error screen at any point. Even after I pull my battery and turn it back on...
I have yet to come across a thread which has this exact problem...

jzalapski said:
Sorry. Yes it does show USB when plugged in, but won't respond to anything that I have tried software wise. It does not switch from this bootloader/error screen at any point. Even after I pull my battery and turn it back on...
I have yet to come across a thread which has this exact problem...
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Have you tried flashing a different ROM while in bootloader?

^^ Yes. It give me an error on my computer...
I would like to try the internal flashing method but I don't seem to have a way of getting at my Storage Card.
I found this thread with a similar problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480022
I WAS just able to get off of that screen I was talking about, but the best I get is to the Touch Diamond Screen that lists my ROM and such. So no real progress.
I have a feeling that I would resolve my problem if I could Flash from the Interanl Storage...

Have you tried hard resetting the device?
Pull out stylus and Holding....1) Vol. Down 2) Center Round button 3) then press red button aka soft reset with stylus

Nothing...

im stuck
hi all i am very new to this im not sure what i have done or how to fix the problem i download these this morning and they worked
rom version 1.57.831.1(47324)wwe
radio version 1.14.25.24
protocol version 52.64.25.34u
when i bootload in tri colours screen it shows
BLAC100 32M
SPL-1.56.OliNex
MicroP-Blackstone (led)v6
if it shows that i must of done something right i think of what ill read
and i have windows 7 ulitmate and i have Miri_WM65_21815_V19.0_Premium
when i double click on the BLACKSTONE RUU WRAPPER it crashes then i rename a new folder and done it from there and it works but it comes up wit error 208 file open? then i got told to rename to ruu_signed.nbh file to blacimg.nbh and to store it in the root of my sd card done that then somehow i got it to come up to the screen by Turn off the phone, press and keep pressed volume down button and while keeping it pressed turn on the phone then i see a message "Press power to flash your device" and i press power to flash got to 0% and it crashed and come up with Upgrade ROM code error plz try again and stuck in bootloader mode but now it wont even turn on its dead it wont turn on no matter what i do can someone plz help
all i want to do is get windows mobile 6.5 working i cant understand that it can be so hard to do
thanxs blueboys25!

[PROBLEM] Rhodium Wont Load any ROM Past 0%

Im Not sure exactly what happened here, I've been flashing for nearly a year now a variety of ROMs, and this last time seems to have been fatal.
I went from a custom ROM, did the routine task29 before loading a new ROM; the task29 completed, I returned to bootloader to load the new ROM, and it wouldnt load past 0%. I tried to task29 again, and then that wouldnt load past 0%.
I've since tried mtty and doing set 14 0, task 29, task 8, which restarts it, but now I can no longer manually power it on by pressing hardware keys anymore.. I have to leave it plugged into USB and wait for it to auto-turn itself on after about 5 mins, it loads to "Touch Pro 2" screen, then I can press the little reset button and hold down vol key to get to bootloader. However, it only lasts there about 10 second before turning itself off again, showing the orange light like it's charging. Sometimes I am quick enough to get any ROM or manual HardSPL to try and load at bootloader, but it still sits at 0%.
I have also tried to load a ROM from the SD card, which seems maybe the only option how; however, I have heard you need at least 50% battery, and I have no way to see how much battery I have left, or whether its even charging.
I tried to install from SD yesterday, and got to the gray "Loading" screen, and it just sat there.. I wasnt sure how long it normally takes at that screen, so i powered it off, checked my SD card and now that shows as corrupt and cannot even be formatted... pretty much burnt out as well now, it seems.
Did I do the SD card installation right, using my RHODIMG.nbh file at the root? How long does it normally sit at the Loading screen? I have an 8GB mini-sd I could load from, but I dont want it to burn out as well..
Are there any other options?? I cant even send back to warranty, I dont think, because I cant even load back on the stock ROM or relock it...

Moved to Rhodium General forum because not a cooking problem.

Someone please help... I just tried again to load stock ROM from SD card, as well as custom, it just sits on "Loading..." on the gray screen...
Just for the record, I can get into bootloader, but as of now nothing will load past 0%.
I tried mtty set 14 0, task 29 and task 8, no luck...

I'm certainly not an expert, but just thought I'd throw out a few ideas.
Have you tried charging the phone on the wall charger (not USB) for several hours (like overnight). The fact the phone is powering off by itself suggests that you may be low on battery. USB won't charge the battery sufficiently in some cases of extreme low battery. Try another battery or charge if possible.
Having the RHODIMG.nbh file in the root of your micro-SD card is the correct way to boot from the card. Normally, it doesn't matter if there are other files on the card. But formatting it can't hurt at this point.
Only other thing I can think of, is try to re-flash the radio first, and see it that helps. That's all I can offer up at this point. I was going to suggest trying to flash the stock ROM, but you've already thought of that in your latest post.
Good luck!

redpoint73 said:
I'm certainly not an expert, but just thought I'd throw out a few ideas.
Have you tried charging the phone on the wall charger (not USB) for several hours (like overnight). The fact the phone is powering off by itself suggests that you may be low on battery. USB won't charge the battery sufficiently in some cases of extreme low battery. Try another battery or charge if possible.
Having the RHODIMG.nbh file in the root of your micro-SD card is the correct way to boot from the card. Normally, it doesn't matter if there are other files on the card. But formatting it can't hurt at this point.
Only other thing I can think of, is try to re-flash the radio first, and see it that helps. That's all I can offer up at this point. I was going to suggest trying to flash the stock ROM, but you've already thought of that in your latest post.
Good luck!
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Thanks for the response; I just tried that (flashing the radio) and it didnt work. Ive also tried flashing a variety of ROMs and nbh files over SD;
It always seems to freeze at the gray "Loading..." screen and get no further.

venomshot629 said:
Thanks for the response; I just tried that (flashing the radio) and it didnt work. Ive also tried flashing a variety of ROMs and nbh files over SD;
It always seems to freeze at the gray "Loading..." screen and get no further.
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Try using a different USB cable to flash via the PC. If you try the SD route again, some users report that using a NON-SDHC card solves the flashing problem. Give that a shot and then report back. I can't really think of anything else offhand.

cajunflavoredbob said:
Try using a different USB cable to flash via the PC. If you try the SD route again, some users report that using a NON-SDHC card solves the flashing problem. Give that a shot and then report back. I can't really think of anything else offhand.
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I have tried again using a 512 MB SD card and it still hangs at the "Loading..." screen.
Also, when flashing with any USB cable, I am still stuck at just 0%.. I can get into the bootloader, etc, but it just refuses to flash any image..

[Q] Light NHB removal.

So I currently have LightNHB flashed. Since WinMo wont work via USB until I check that one option (forget off hand) I can't establish a USB connection to flash my phone. I tried putting the RAPHIMG.nbh into my SD cards root but that also didn't work, during the boot it said there were no images to flash.
So I removed the Android OS files and reformatted my SD card then places the img file into the root again, and again no image was found.
How would I fix this issue? I cannot seem to flash my phone back to a different WinMo rom.

Got into LightNHB and it has no settings for the USB, it's all in ITA and only one thing I could find in the menus and it gives an error that the file cannot be found. Talk about bare-bones, no wonder I couldn't get this to connect to USB, I don't think it has the ability to.
Ideas?

Pull the battery, SIM(if you have one) and microSD card out.
Press and hold the volume down button while plugging in the USB cord and it should take you to the tri-color screen.
If you haven't already let go of the volume down button, do so now.
You should be ready to flash another ROM!
n-Joie!

R^7Z said:
Pull the battery, SIM(if you have one) and microSD card out.
Press and hold the volume down button while plugging in the USB cord and it should take you to the tri-color screen.
If you haven't already let go of the volume down button, do so now.
You should be ready to flash another ROM!
n-Joie!
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Didn't know I could be like that but, sadly, error 260; followed to the letter :/
I can't get it to recognize .nbh. When I was able to get into the WinMo of LightNBH it seems it's WM5? CDMA? On my GSM phone... I know my version is dual CDMA and GSM. Though I use the latter.
It has HardSPL because Tri-colour screen says 1.90.OliNex

Can you get it to recognize USB in said bootloader mode? You should be able to flash from your PC using bootloader mode...

arrrghhh said:
Can you get it to recognize USB in said bootloader mode? You should be able to flash from your PC using bootloader mode...
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No, from what I can gather LightNBH doesn't have the stock USB connection info included in WinMo. Settings > Connections was empty. In fact all of it is empty (settings), I couldn't get to my SD card to run cab files to give me control over my phone.
Is there anyone else running the LightNBH flash that can confirm this? I can't even establish a USB line within Android.

Ventrik101 said:
No, from what I can gather LightNBH doesn't have the stock USB connection info included in WinMo. Settings > Connections was empty. In fact all of it is empty (settings), I couldn't get to my SD card to run cab files to give me control over my phone.
Is there anyone else running the LightNBH flash that can confirm this? I can't even establish a USB line within Android.
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Hrm, I figured bootloader mode would be separate from WinMo entirely... so not having usb drivers in WinMo should effect it.
So you're saying when you're in bootloader mode, and you plug in USB it still just says "serial"?

arrrghhh said:
Hrm, I figured bootloader mode would be separate from WinMo entirely... so not having usb drivers in WinMo should effect it.
So you're saying when you're in bootloader mode, and you plug in USB it still just says "serial"?
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It doesn't even say serial.
Code:
RAPH100
SPL-1.90.OliNex
MicroP-Raph (LED) v13
MicroP-Raph (KEY) v5
PSOC-Raph STAGE_CVT v0x36
That's all my boot-loader says and I didn't think drivers had any effect here but as it sits I get an error 260 unable to connect from the ROM updater's that came with Monfro, TAEL, and Energy, as well as Task_29.

Erm... It should definitely say "Serial" near the bottom. Give it 10 secs or so...
When you plug into USB, that should convert to say USB...

Did you remember to rename the .nbh file into "RAPHIMG.nbh"? You could also use a sd card adapter or another device that has working usb storage that takes micro sd cards and then drag the .nbh file on the sd card via another device.

See what happens when we get in a hurry? At least that's how i ended up with Litenbh on my TP stuck in a boot loop.
I tried the PWR + VOL DN while soft resetting. No luck. Then i was going to try holding those 2 buttons while plugging it in to USB, I was holding the buttons as i unplugged it. It jumped to the serial screen as soon as i unplugged it.
I'm sure you have gotten this fixed or a new phone by now, but in case ur as broke as me, and still playin with a TP cause you HAVE to.
Maybe this will help. Hold power + volume down while plugging/unplugging it from the PC. Might get lucky like i did.
I know it says Development discontinued, but the TP is old enough that the info i'm looking for is getting buried. Most d/l links i find are dead now, so i'm getting jumpy on the clicker finger.
But I for one think this link and the file itself needs to be taken down. I know it's only 2 of us so far, but dangit what a pain!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=601751
EDIT: Wow i didnt realize this thread was that old also.
Alltel Touch Pro (yeah it's old, and the keyboard doesn't work)
Using Updated Alltel ROM from HTC site.

Hmmm...
FroYo thread
Gingerbread thread
And yes, this are continuing projects...
Please read the first few posts before attempting anything. It's really does not hurt to try but your experience may vary slightly if you don't know what you are doing.
On that note, I am PMing the thread OP/forum mod to see if there is a way to link to the continuing project threads.
Actually the first post in that thread that you make mention of, has a link to the continuing project.. heh

[Q] phone bricked? htc incredible

ok so heres the story, its kinda long so i might include cliff notes at bottom.
i have an htc incredible, verizon branded. i was trying to flash it over to boost for my son to use, he has one of those crappy sanyo phones. i did all the reading of the "donor" phone and even installed the NV465,466,1192,1194 files onto the incredible. i was at the stage of changing the meid to the one from the donor phone. it wouldnt take the meid and i went to get up from my chair to take a break. when i stood up the phone fell and unpluged from the usb cable and hit the floor, battery came out. well when i went to plug in the phone in again i couldnt/cant get past the "htc incredible" white screen. it seems to be stuck in an endless cycle, but if i hold the power and optical center key i can get to the boot menu. nothing in the boot menu works. i have tried everything fastboot, bootloader, reboot, reboot bootloader, hboot, recovery, clear storage, simlock, factory reset and even plugging the usb cable in does nothing. i can see the phone in my devise drivers but can not get anything to load via usb. i have tried ruu, nothing special rom(dont know that it would work since its not rooted) on sd card and nothing seems to be working. is there anything i can do? or did i just make a brick?
cliff notes: flashing htc incredible to boost, phone stuck in endless "htc incredible" loop. need help

Did you try taking it back to stock via the PB31IMG Method without turning s=on, and starting from scratch, and then re-rooting it?

carm01 said:
Did you try taking it back to stock via the PB31IMG Method without turning s=on, and starting from scratch, and then re-rooting it?
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i am not familiar with that with method, explain please?

try this plz:
droidforums.net/forum/droid-incredible-hacks/95406-how-correctly-unroot-incredible.html
use the PB31IMG Method without turning s=on, ( i had stock radio and still have 7.28 )
1) download that PB31IMG.zip and drop it on the root of your sd card ( it has to be named ( PB31IMG.zip ) so make use you have file extensions showing on your PC.
2) boot to hboot and and let see the file and install it
3) used unrevoked ( remove sd card ) to aquire root again.

carm01 said:
try this plz:
droidforums.net/forum/droid-incredible-hacks/95406-how-correctly-unroot-incredible.html
use the PB31IMG Method without turning s=on, ( i had stock radio and still have 7.28 )
1) download that PB31IMG.zip and drop it on the root of your sd card ( it has to be named ( PB31IMG.zip ) so make use you have file extensions showing on your PC.
2) boot to hboot and and let see the file and install it
3) used unrevoked ( remove sd card ) to aquire root again.
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ok i have PB31IMG.zip installed in SD card root
1) i boot to hboot
2)if i press volume up twice i get a short message but its so damn fast i cant see it
3)nothing happens

the message is something to this effect:
Sd checking...
loading PB31IMG.zip
no image PB31IMG.zip diag nbh
it really comes out fast so i cant reading it

waxworkz said:
the message is something to this effect:
Sd checking...
loading PB31IMG.zip
no image PB31IMG.zip diag nbh
it really comes out fast so i cant reading it
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hang on a second, it should check the zip file then give you an option to choose up to install it

carm01 said:
hang on a second, it should check the zip file then give you an option to choose up to install it
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thank you for your help.
i noticed on the top of the phone it says "incredible XD ship S-on
is there something i must do?

waxworkz said:
thank you for your help.
i noticed on the top of the phone it says "incredible XD ship S-on
is there something i must do?
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yes that is a problem, you must obtain root. and get s=off.
go here and take out your SD card, follow directions and see what happens:
http://unrevoked.com/#inc
EDIT: it will reboot twice i believe while rooting

carm01 said:
yes that is a problem, you must obtain root. and get s=off.
go here and take out your SD card, follow directions and see what happens:
http://unrevoked.com/#inc
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ok so i down load that zip and it has instructions?

problem is my phone only shows up on com12 and non of the other software see the phone. it just says waiting for device now

waxworkz said:
ok so i down load that zip and it has instructions?
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i am sorry, go here:
http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
and get the exe, but first you must get the android drivers, which you can get here first:
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install

carm01 said:
i am sorry, go here:
http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
and get the exe, but first you must get the android drivers, which you can get here first:
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install
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thats done and still just says waiting for device. an i supposed to do anything on the phone?

waxworkz said:
thats done and still just says waiting for device. an i supposed to do anything on the phone?
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when you run the exe it will tell you what to do. try re-booting it with the cable still plugged in. i am not sure at this point since you have the drivers installed, but i guess we will see what happens

carm01 said:
when you run the exe it will tell you what to do. try re-booting it with the cable still plugged in. i am not sure at this point since you have the drivers installed, but i guess we will see what happens
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tried that. the exe is run on the comp and it just says waiting for device. nothing happens. am i supposed to have the phone in hboot usb plug?

waxworkz said:
tried that. the exe is run on the comp and it just says waiting for device. nothing happens. am i supposed to have the phone in hboot usb plug?
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did you take the micro sd card out?
the process is automatic for the most part.
Is there a opt for recovery in hboot? we might try something different

carm01 said:
did you take the micro sd card out?
the process is automatic for the most part.
Is there a opt for recovery in hboot? we might try something different
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yes i took sd card out. dl file ad drivers. all that works exactly as stated. but then i run the exe it just says waiting for device.
yes there is a recovery option but if i select that option the phone starts its booting cycle again

waxworkz said:
yes i took sd card out. dl file ad drivers. all that works exactly as stated. but then i run the exe it just says waiting for device.
yes there is a recovery option but if i select that option the phone starts its booting cycle again
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ok, so lets go back to the original method we talked about.
The only way to brick your phone is during flashing a radio, and something goes wrong. which i am hoping you have not done?
Back to pulling the usb cable out, and putting the SD card in and booting to hboot
pushing the down button from the first screen shot, will take you to another screen, where it will pause and then should look something like the second screenshot where it is checking the files, which will then give an opt to install.
( you can toggle the power button to get to the correct screen in first screenshot

carm01 said:
ok, so lets go back to the original method we talked about.
The only way to brick your phone is during flashing a radio, and something goes wrong. which i am hoping you have not done?
Back to pulling the usb cable out, and putting the SD card in and booting to hboot
pushing the down button from the first screen shot, will take you to another screen, where it will pause and then should look something like the second screenshot where it is checking the files, which will then give an opt to install.
( you can toggle the power button to get to the correct screen in first screenshot
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yes it does that but then goes back to the first screen

waxworkz said:
yes it does that but then goes back to the first screen
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try toggling the power button and getting to the hboot screen, then pushing the down volume key, wait a few seconds ( i assume you still have the renamed file PB31IMG..zip on the root of the SD card ? )