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Guys, I'm running DJ Droid on mine, odexed, and I've enough space given I'm using Froyo's native apps on SD option using setinstalllocation on DJ Droid.
I want to try another ROM but most are deodexed and so seem to need app2sd.
I've never used this - if I use ROM Manager from my current ROM then I can partition up to 512MB ext size, and specify swap (0?) - is this enough?
Once I've partitioned the SD card, then how do I make use of it? Does it only work when you first flash an app2sd-supporting ROM on it - i.e. the ROM notices the ext partition and automatically makes use of it? Could someone help me out here? I have searched but am struggling...
Thanks
Ric
it automatically does the job when you flash the rom with the a2sd+....just have the sdcard with ext partition inserted and it will do it all on its own
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it automatically does the job when you flash the rom with the a2sd+....just have the sdcard with ext partition inserted and it will do it all on its own
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So if I partition the SD card (usign ROM manager) and reboot without reflashing ROM nothing will happen, but when I next flash using a new ROM like the Neophyte one it will automagically start using app2sd without any intervention on my part? Apologies for confusion but the process seems to have evolved pretty quickly and so a lot of guides are a bit out of date...
Also, seen note of ext2 and ext3 partitions?
Thanks
Ric
landwomble said:
So if I partition the SD card (usign ROM manager) and reboot without reflashing ROM nothing will happen, but when I next flash using a new ROM like the Neophyte one it will automagically start using app2sd without any intervention on my part? Apologies for confusion but the process seems to have evolved pretty quickly and so a lot of guides are a bit out of date...
Also, seen note of ext2 and ext3 partitions?
Thanks
Ric
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I have the same question, did you manage to get the answer ?
I have already flushed the ROM and now i want to wipe and use the app2sd is it possible without flushing new ROM ?
Or i can flush the same ROM again after wipe the SD card ?
alegator23 said:
I have the same question, did you manage to get the answer ?
I have already flushed the ROM and now i want to wipe and use the app2sd is it possible without flushing new ROM ?
Or i can flush the same ROM again after wipe the SD card ?
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If your rom has a2sd AND you have your sd card partitioned, then you should be using it automatically.
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landwomble said:
So if I partition the SD card (usign ROM manager) and reboot without reflashing ROM nothing will happen, but when I next flash using a new ROM like the Neophyte one it will automagically start using app2sd without any intervention on my part? Apologies for confusion but the process seems to have evolved pretty quickly and so a lot of guides are a bit out of date...
Also, seen note of ext2 and ext3 partitions?
Thanks
Ric
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Once you've flashed a ROM of your choice, download Quick System Info from the Market, this will tell you if your A2SD is working. For example, mine says A2SD storage - Total: 473mb, Free: 255mb.
Partition problem SD card with Rom Manager
Hi guys
Thanks for the replies, but currently now i have the issue with the partition the SD card.
I am using the ROM Manager to wipe the SD, (512, swap=0).
The device is rebooted with red question mark and boots again to regular state and actually nothing happens.
Thanks for assistance.
alegator23 said:
Hi guys
Thanks for the replies, but currently now i have the issue with the partition the SD card.
I am using the ROM Manager to wipe the SD, (512, swap=0).
The device is rebooted with red question mark and boots again to regular state and actually nothing happens.
Thanks for assistance.
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And what did you EXPECT? Your apps should be on sdcard now, congrats.
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K900 said:
And what did you EXPECT? Your apps should be on sdcard now, congrats.
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Ok maybe i don't understand something
But i flushed the Leo ROM 2.0C without wiping my SD card and i didn't partition the SD card to ext2/3/4. During the flush of the ROM i got notification that the ext partitions weren't found so the app2sd+ will not be installed.
So the situation now is what i have the device with flushed rom but without the app2sd+ .
In Quick system Information i see A2SD : Information not available.
I would like to have the app2sd+ working, like i understand in order to do this i need to wipe the SD card and partition it properly -> this is the problem i can't do it with Rom Manager, because it's boot with Red question mark, after 3 sec boot again into regular device state without any changes.
If i success in wipe the SD then i can flush the new ROM which will install the app2sd+ properly.
Thanks for the assistance.
alegator23 said:
Ok maybe i don't understand something
But i flushed the Leo ROM 2.0C without wiping my SD card and i didn't partition the SD card to ext2/3/4. During the flush of the ROM i got notification that the ext partitions weren't found so the app2sd+ will not be installed.
So the situation now is what i have the device with flushed rom but without the app2sd+ .
In Quick system Information i see A2SD : Information not available.
I would like to have the app2sd+ working, like i understand in order to do this i need to wipe the SD card and partition it properly -> this is the problem i can't do it with Rom Manager, because it's boot with Red question mark, after 3 sec boot again into regular device state without any changes.
If i success in wipe the SD then i can flush the new ROM which will install the app2sd+ properly.
Thanks for the assistance.
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I guess your ROM doesn't install a2sd when no ext partition is found at install time. Reflash it, and it should detect stuff properly.
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I guess your ROM doesn't install a2sd when no ext partition is found at install time. Reflash it, and it should detect stuff properly.
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I tried to reflash the rom but it's the same.
I have only the option to move the app to the SD card Applications -> Manage Applications -> Move to SD.
In additional i have checked some replies which still telling to use the Rom Manager (for me it's not exactly working -> red question mark).
In additional i saw some places where it says go to recovery -> partition SD ext2/swap. I don't have this option in the recovery.
Still don't have idea how to partition my SD.
Thanks
alegator23 said:
I tried to reflash the rom but it's the same.
I have only the option to move the app to the SD card Applications -> Manage Applications -> Move to SD.
In additional i have checked some replies which still telling to use the Rom Manager (for me it's not exactly working -> red question mark).
In additional i saw some places where it says go to recovery -> partition SD ext2/swap. I don't have this option in the recovery.
Still don't have idea how to partition my SD.
Thanks
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Well, then you have probably partitioned your card wrong. Try GParted, and make sure that the ext partition goes AFTER the fat one.
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First of all: I searched, googled and tried for the last 3 hours.
So I finally managed to partition my SD card, after having problems to upgrade Clockwork recovery.
What's missing is the program "mod install location"
Google gives me lots of links to the market, but the app isn't on the market. I am using the newest leedroid Rom on my desire.
Any ideas?
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Additional info:
I upgraded from an 4gb card to a 16gb.
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Well first of all there are 2 types of a2sd. The froyo one and the old one:
Froyo one:
-Apps are moved to a folder on fat32 partition on sd-card (the same as all your other files are stored to)
-You are able to move apps.
-You dont need to partition your sd-card.
-Far from all apps support this, so you need "mod install location" to allow all apps.(this app was removed from the market)
-Don't need root
Old A2SD:
-Apps are stored on a folder in the ext-partition.
-Is invisible to system(can't move apps)
-You obviously need to partition sd-card.
-all apps work by default because the system thinks they are on internal(you don't need "mod install location")
-Need root
So you are actually doing 2 different things. Hope I've sorted it and ask away if you have further questions.
edit: you can run both, but you will just be moving apps back and forth between the ext-partition and the fat32 partition, both on the sd-card.
yeah i knew that there where 2 types of a2sd.
what I did not know is that "mod install location" is for the froyo a2sd.
what i want is to move more apps to the sd card...
i don't know what to chose... froyo a2sd with "mod install location" or the old a2sd. can you give me a hint? or tell me the advantages.
for the froyo one I need "mod install location". i don't have it.
is Deodexed or odexed relevant for the decision?
for the old a2sd I need my sd card partitioned. i did this. so how do i move apps to sd now? or just install new apps?
sorry... lot of questions. lot of missing knowledge.
Hi.
I'm in a dilemma here trying to.fimd out what is wrong. I formatted and partitioned my 4gb SD card to work with App2sd+ by making 3gb Fat32 Primary and First Partition and 1gb EXT3 Primary, however whenever apps are installed they tend to use the First partitioned instead of the reserved 1gb partition I had created.
Maybe I have done something wrong, since I am quite new to App2SD and how it works, but know the basics. I would appreciate your help.
Thank you
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You must flash a rom with a2sd+ support. It's different from the built in support for a2sd, which can be found in the stock froyo roms and above.
Flash Darktremor Apps2SD for Desire in recovery and then use A2SDGUI from the Market to change settings as you like. After that do not manually move apps around. They should me installed to the internal storage which then will be your sd-card.
I failed to metion that I am using Teppic's 'Pre-rooted Stock Froyo (2.29.405.5)' ROM with the optional addon 'App2SD+' so I presume it should work fine
However, I am thinking it has something to do with the app I have installed 'Move2SD Enabler' which I think is moving everything to the External Fat32 partition'.
Can someone confirm?
Deeco7 said:
I failed to metion that I am using Teppic's 'Pre-rooted Stock Froyo (2.29.405.5)' ROM with the optional addon 'App2SD+' so I presume it should work fine
However, I am thinking it has something to do with the app I have installed 'Move2SD Enabler' which I think is moving everything to the External Fat32 partition'.
Can someone confirm?
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yes it could be, i wondering the same things about the app2sd with my first flash with custom's rom and ap2sd+ (i uninstalled this app).
to be shure that your sript ap2sd+ is working fine you can brouwse your phone and go to system/sd you should see 4 folders... app + app-private +lost-found and dalvik-cache (for the last folder it's assumed that your script got the little "+" which means that is moving the dalvik cache to your ext partition)
hope this would help you
Another idea to see if a2sd+ is working like it should is to download Quick System Info. When you launch it you should see a line with a2sd info. If it is there then a2sd+ is ok, and you can see how much of you ext3 1GB partition is used.
I used the rom manager to make the partitions, then I format them with MiniTool.Partition.Wizard.Professional.v5.2-REDT when needed, you can resize them as needed ... you can download it at rlslog.net
Wow... Is it really time for another "how does x type of app to sd solution work?"
It really is quite simple:
Froyo a2sd uses a folder on the fat32 and the system controls, where the apps is installed, and where they are moved to.
a2sd+/legacy a2sd uses the ext-partition by symlinking the folders /data/apps and /data/dalvik-cache to this partition. This solution is transparent to the system itself, so as far as the android system is aware the apps is installed internal. This means you can use widgets from apps on this partition, and it also means that your apps will allways be installed here, so you cannot move them to internal. You will also not see the extra space, your apps will just not take up as much space when installed.
If you like you have done move the apps to sd through the froyo settings, you actually just move them from the ext-partition to the folder on the fat32-partition.
I've used the new CM7 stable for 1 day, everything's fine except I can't use the A2SD+, after I flash the rom & gapps, the internal memory is 11x MB free/ 148 MB total.
This is my first time flashing a mod rom, so maybe I did sth wrong when I flash it, plz help me to check the procedure, thx
My phone is: SHIP PVT1 S-OFF(by alpharev)
HBOOT 0.93.0001
1, I root my phone with Unrevoked 3.32 from unrevoked.com
2, S-OFF with Alpharev 1.8 from alpharev.nl (burning a bootable CD)
3, Before flash the rom, I partitoned the sdcard (Kingston 8GB) with sd-ext 1024 MB, swap 0 MB, then wipe all things I can with the recovery that Unrevoked gave to me, and factory reset, then flash the rom by select .zip file from sdcard
4, Boot into CM7 then turn off, and boot again to flash the gapps
that's what I did, but after all, my internal memory still decrease when I install any programs, and the sd-ext directory is empty when I check it by Root Explorer
Are there something wrong?
BIG THANKS!
Use s2e app in market. Enjoy.
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I heard that if the SD card has ext partition, the A2SD+ will automatically enable after flashing CM7. Should I have to install a program to enable it? or is there some setting I should do in the CM setting? thx
wind4s said:
I heard that if the SD card has ext partition, the A2SD+ will automatically enable after flashing CM7. Should I have to install a program to enable it? or is there some setting I should do in the CM setting? thx
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As far as I know, CM is no longer officially supporting apps2sd on ext partition (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Apps2SD).
I'm using CM7 with Darktremor apps2sd - woks just fine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715940
Simple2EXT is on the Android market. That works.
But once you enable the options, you have to restart and wait a while for the things to move around here and there. After doing so, your phone will function normally.
I haven't used any other scripts because this did the trick for me. Just make sure you have an adequately-sized EXT partition.
Meaple said:
Use s2e app in market. Enjoy.
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THX, I got it work well
_BaTTi_ said:
As far as I know, CM is no longer officially supporting apps2sd on ext partition (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Apps2SD).
I'm using CM7 with Darktremor apps2sd - woks just fine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715940
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THX, I wonder why they disable the support of app2ext in CM7, it's such a nice function to save the internal mamory..
the Darktremor installation seems a little bit complicated, I'll try it later, now I'm using S2E and it's easy to setup
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Simple2EXT is on the Android market. That works.
But once you enable the options, you have to restart and wait a while for the things to move around here and there. After doing so, your phone will function normally.
I haven't used any other scripts because this did the trick for me. Just make sure you have an adequately-sized EXT partition.
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thx, it's cool and easy to use
I think s2ext more stable than darktremor app2sd...my desire running cm7 stable release hboot cm7 table partition working great with s2ext/app2sdlegacy for cm7..
If I do not have a partition for A2SD installed, and I run an a2sd script to enable it on a ROM, and move an app to the SD, does it still get fully moved to the SD? And can someone shed a little more light on this situation, with no partition space, but moving apps 2 sd/
Also, if I move an app to an sd, but do not wipe the sd:ext partition or sd card, but wipe all data partitions, will the app + its data be there if i flash a new rom?
i never wipe sd ext and all my apps are there for recovery once my new rom is up and running. As far as A2SD, i think you have to be partitioned for it to work. And the partition sdext2 must be upgraded to ext3. here is a walkthrough on how to partition your sd card... very easy this is how i did it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158993&highlight=partition+sd+card
Also if you are not using aomn_ra recovery id suggest using that instead of clockwork. some roms or kernels recommend flashing only with amon_ra
Here's the Amon-RA recovery which you can still flash CWM recoveries if you choose to http://www.mediafire.com/?6eo9jo7fdazp2 you may also want to read the thread on partitioning your SD card mentioned above
dbenney said:
i never wipe sd ext and all my apps are there for recovery once my new rom is up and running. As far as A2SD, i think you have to be partitioned for it to work. And the partition sdext2 must be upgraded to ext3. here is a walkthrough on how to partition your sd card... very easy this is how i did it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158993&highlight=partition+sd+card
Also if you are not using aomn_ra recovery id suggest using that instead of clockwork. some roms or kernels recommend flashing only with amon_ra
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Some say ext 3 deteriorates the life of your sd card because it's constantly writing. I use ext 2 and it works perfectly.
Aside from that you must have a ROM and kernel that supports a2sd as well as swap if you choose to use it. Simply flashing the a2sd script won't work if neither conditions are met
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Aside from that you must have a ROM and kernel that supports a2sd as well as swap if you choose to use it. Simply flashing the a2sd script won't work if neither conditions are met
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OOPS forgot to mention that part. Aren't most non stock roms set up for a2sd? I haven't run into one yet that wasnt. I was under the impression that it had to be upgraded to ext3.
Ok so if I move my SMS app to ext-2 or ext-3, then if I wipe it all but that, and flash a new rom, they should be there on the new rom?
It does not have to be ext 3 to use a2sd. And some roms don't support it or they just don't have it installed
It would still be there, but the symlink won't I believe
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symlink? What is that?
When you move apps to the partition, which is automatic, it creates a symlink in the drawer telling the down where the app is
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And how does that have to do with its data?
Basically DT a2sd just sets up sym links from the normal place the apps folder would be to a location on your ext2/3 partition on your SD card. From the perspective of Android it just thinks the folder is in the normal location it is supposed to be then (even though under the covers the underlying Linux OS is actually reading/writing the SD card). This applies to both the apps plus there data if they store it in the normal location (some apps write their data to the normal part of the SD card in which case the data would still go there).
So, if you switch ROMs and that ROM has A2SD support, it should detect the SD-Ext partition and re-setup this sym link for you when you install the ROM and you will then have all your apps back (plus any uninstallable apps the ROM includes should go there). If your ROM doesn't support A2SD out of the box, as long as the kernel supports ext2/3 (whichever you formatted your SD card with) you should be able to flash DT a2sd after you flash the ROM and then run the a2sd script as root to set up the link to put the apps on the SD-ext partition again (I think this will preserve the apps that are there, but honestly haven't done it myself so you should make a nandroid of the SD-ext partition before doing this if you want to make sure you won't have to re-install your apps).
Hope this helps some.