If I do not have a partition for A2SD installed, and I run an a2sd script to enable it on a ROM, and move an app to the SD, does it still get fully moved to the SD? And can someone shed a little more light on this situation, with no partition space, but moving apps 2 sd/
Also, if I move an app to an sd, but do not wipe the sd:ext partition or sd card, but wipe all data partitions, will the app + its data be there if i flash a new rom?
i never wipe sd ext and all my apps are there for recovery once my new rom is up and running. As far as A2SD, i think you have to be partitioned for it to work. And the partition sdext2 must be upgraded to ext3. here is a walkthrough on how to partition your sd card... very easy this is how i did it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158993&highlight=partition+sd+card
Also if you are not using aomn_ra recovery id suggest using that instead of clockwork. some roms or kernels recommend flashing only with amon_ra
Here's the Amon-RA recovery which you can still flash CWM recoveries if you choose to http://www.mediafire.com/?6eo9jo7fdazp2 you may also want to read the thread on partitioning your SD card mentioned above
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i never wipe sd ext and all my apps are there for recovery once my new rom is up and running. As far as A2SD, i think you have to be partitioned for it to work. And the partition sdext2 must be upgraded to ext3. here is a walkthrough on how to partition your sd card... very easy this is how i did it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158993&highlight=partition+sd+card
Also if you are not using aomn_ra recovery id suggest using that instead of clockwork. some roms or kernels recommend flashing only with amon_ra
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Some say ext 3 deteriorates the life of your sd card because it's constantly writing. I use ext 2 and it works perfectly.
Aside from that you must have a ROM and kernel that supports a2sd as well as swap if you choose to use it. Simply flashing the a2sd script won't work if neither conditions are met
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Aside from that you must have a ROM and kernel that supports a2sd as well as swap if you choose to use it. Simply flashing the a2sd script won't work if neither conditions are met
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OOPS forgot to mention that part. Aren't most non stock roms set up for a2sd? I haven't run into one yet that wasnt. I was under the impression that it had to be upgraded to ext3.
Ok so if I move my SMS app to ext-2 or ext-3, then if I wipe it all but that, and flash a new rom, they should be there on the new rom?
It does not have to be ext 3 to use a2sd. And some roms don't support it or they just don't have it installed
It would still be there, but the symlink won't I believe
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symlink? What is that?
When you move apps to the partition, which is automatic, it creates a symlink in the drawer telling the down where the app is
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And how does that have to do with its data?
Basically DT a2sd just sets up sym links from the normal place the apps folder would be to a location on your ext2/3 partition on your SD card. From the perspective of Android it just thinks the folder is in the normal location it is supposed to be then (even though under the covers the underlying Linux OS is actually reading/writing the SD card). This applies to both the apps plus there data if they store it in the normal location (some apps write their data to the normal part of the SD card in which case the data would still go there).
So, if you switch ROMs and that ROM has A2SD support, it should detect the SD-Ext partition and re-setup this sym link for you when you install the ROM and you will then have all your apps back (plus any uninstallable apps the ROM includes should go there). If your ROM doesn't support A2SD out of the box, as long as the kernel supports ext2/3 (whichever you formatted your SD card with) you should be able to flash DT a2sd after you flash the ROM and then run the a2sd script as root to set up the link to put the apps on the SD-ext partition again (I think this will preserve the apps that are there, but honestly haven't done it myself so you should make a nandroid of the SD-ext partition before doing this if you want to make sure you won't have to re-install your apps).
Hope this helps some.
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Heya,
Today I flashed a fresh Defrost 6.1a (Which is said to support A2SD+), Flashed Gapps. So far so good.
I took my 8GB SD card and partitioned it in Ubuntu using Gpareted. I set the FAT32 partition first, then a ext3 partition (512MB) second.
Ubuntu read both with accurate sizes.
I put the card back into the phone and looked "SD card & phone storage", it no said my SD card is only 6.89GB, but the Internal phone storage was still low.
I decided to check a little more with Titanium Backup, which surprisingly said that my ext3 partition is only 256MB and is half full (talking about a fresh ROM here).
Can someone point me to where I did wrong?
Maybe format using ext4?
Put the ext partition first?
Reflash ROM after partitioning?
TNX
I have never got A2SD working either. I think you need to install a script or something. Here is a post about A2SD. Also, Android 2.2+ supports moving apps to SD anyway.
If you want more space to install apps, you can install one of AlphaRev's HBoot templates which can increase the /data partition, that's if you have S-Off.
I couldn't be bothered farting around with A2SD and so I did that instead.
CoreOxide said:
Maybe format using ext4?
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No, it will not make it work and will only increase your memory card's wear.
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Reflash ROM after partitioning?
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So you flashed the a2sd enabled ROM on the device which didn't have memory card prepared? I always thought such enterprises would end in a boot loop. Flash it again if this is the case.
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Also, Android 2.2+ supports moving apps to SD anyway.
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It is not teh same thing!
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How do you inspect if a2sd is working? Coz I think u r doing it wrong. Install Quick system info and check what it says under a2sd storage and if it slowly decreases when you install apps, which means it is working. You don't have to set default install location anywhere, the script does that for you.
What you are referring to here, is Froyo's built-in a2sd which requires the app to be optimized for app2sd, that's why only some of your apps seem to be on the SD card. Furthermore, it will transfer the apps to FAT32 partition, that you don't want for it to do since Android first loads apps which need to be loaded at startup, and afterwards it mounts the SD card, which will lead to some apps failing to start after boot.
a2sd tricks the phone into thinking that ext partition is it's internal memory. Froyo app2sd != a2sd script, don't confuse those two, they are not the same.
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Hi.
I'm in a dilemma here trying to.fimd out what is wrong. I formatted and partitioned my 4gb SD card to work with App2sd+ by making 3gb Fat32 Primary and First Partition and 1gb EXT3 Primary, however whenever apps are installed they tend to use the First partitioned instead of the reserved 1gb partition I had created.
Maybe I have done something wrong, since I am quite new to App2SD and how it works, but know the basics. I would appreciate your help.
Thank you
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You must flash a rom with a2sd+ support. It's different from the built in support for a2sd, which can be found in the stock froyo roms and above.
Flash Darktremor Apps2SD for Desire in recovery and then use A2SDGUI from the Market to change settings as you like. After that do not manually move apps around. They should me installed to the internal storage which then will be your sd-card.
I failed to metion that I am using Teppic's 'Pre-rooted Stock Froyo (2.29.405.5)' ROM with the optional addon 'App2SD+' so I presume it should work fine
However, I am thinking it has something to do with the app I have installed 'Move2SD Enabler' which I think is moving everything to the External Fat32 partition'.
Can someone confirm?
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I failed to metion that I am using Teppic's 'Pre-rooted Stock Froyo (2.29.405.5)' ROM with the optional addon 'App2SD+' so I presume it should work fine
However, I am thinking it has something to do with the app I have installed 'Move2SD Enabler' which I think is moving everything to the External Fat32 partition'.
Can someone confirm?
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yes it could be, i wondering the same things about the app2sd with my first flash with custom's rom and ap2sd+ (i uninstalled this app).
to be shure that your sript ap2sd+ is working fine you can brouwse your phone and go to system/sd you should see 4 folders... app + app-private +lost-found and dalvik-cache (for the last folder it's assumed that your script got the little "+" which means that is moving the dalvik cache to your ext partition)
hope this would help you
Another idea to see if a2sd+ is working like it should is to download Quick System Info. When you launch it you should see a line with a2sd info. If it is there then a2sd+ is ok, and you can see how much of you ext3 1GB partition is used.
I used the rom manager to make the partitions, then I format them with MiniTool.Partition.Wizard.Professional.v5.2-REDT when needed, you can resize them as needed ... you can download it at rlslog.net
Wow... Is it really time for another "how does x type of app to sd solution work?"
It really is quite simple:
Froyo a2sd uses a folder on the fat32 and the system controls, where the apps is installed, and where they are moved to.
a2sd+/legacy a2sd uses the ext-partition by symlinking the folders /data/apps and /data/dalvik-cache to this partition. This solution is transparent to the system itself, so as far as the android system is aware the apps is installed internal. This means you can use widgets from apps on this partition, and it also means that your apps will allways be installed here, so you cannot move them to internal. You will also not see the extra space, your apps will just not take up as much space when installed.
If you like you have done move the apps to sd through the froyo settings, you actually just move them from the ext-partition to the folder on the fat32-partition.
If I use Dredz method of partitioning my SD card, do I still need to flash the DT a2sd? Or will my partition work just fine without it? Also, could someoen go into detail the difference, and maybe benefits of each? Thanks
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If I use Dredz method of partitioning my SD card, do I still need to flash the DT a2sd? Or will my partition work just fine without it? Also, could someoen go into detail the difference, and maybe benefits of each? Thanks
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it depends if the rom comes with any type of a2sd(most roms do) then you shouldnt have to flash dta2sd with the rom. With dta2sd it gives you more features like you can move dalvik cache to sdcard,external,and cache. You can move all your apps back and forth from your ext to internal.
So with just dredz method, I can just move apps 2 sd, and nothing else?
Which I think thats All I will need. I am on warm 2.3 with low internal mem right now, so just trying to make some space.
Warm 3.5 comes with cma2sd so you don't have to do anything. All you need is a partitioned sdcard and the Rom will do everything on its own
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Partitioning your card doesn't automagically give you the ability to move apps to the ext partition, you will need either a rom with the mod baked in or a script such as DTa2sd and terminal emulator to manage the ext partition
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I have a problem, and i cant manage to solve him, so any help will be apriciated.
I installed Runnymede AIO V6.0.4.3 Special Edition Stable Version
Problem is that every new app that i install goes diractly to the sd-ext. The partition of sd ext is 512, but after installing ROM it size is down to about 80 mb. So after installing few apps sd ext is full and i get an error. Meanwhille i have about 125 mb free on internal storage!
I tried su
a2sd remove, but it tells a2sd not found!
I`m really lost, tried everything for couple of days, so if anyone can help me, please do so...
This ROM requires 1 to 1.5GB ext4.
You might need to extend the sd-ext partition.
The easiest would be to backup your phone, repartition through recovery and reinstall the ROM.
I've been using this ROM for quite some time now and everything works perfectly with a 1GB ext partition.
But the rom is allready installed on sd ext and every other app that i installed later is also on sd ext. But now my sd ext is full, so i want to set as my default location internal memory, but i dont know how to do that... Does anyone have idea?
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But the rom is allready installed on sd ext and every other app that i installed later is also on sd ext. But now my sd ext is full, so i want to set as my default location internal memory, but i dont know how to do that... Does anyone have idea?
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Sd Ext is "internal memory" - the a2sd etc scripts essentially fool the phone into thinking the sd Ext is part of the internal storage. Therefore increases the data storage for your user apps and is where they will install. This is why you have plenty of internal phone storage, but isn't anything to worry about.
Your actual problem using this Rom is that in common with other later sense Roms, parts of the Rom are also installed to the Sd Ext. This is why the sd Ext size needs to be bigger than 512MB, its filling up because its got parts of Rom plus all your user apps on it.
Sure the Rom thread will recommend what size is, needed. So do a nandroid (include sd Ext if AmonRa recovery), copy sd card contents to pc as backup, repartition using Gparted, copy sd backup back to card, nandroid restore.
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You should try ad2sdx in order to increase the number of installed apps.
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You should try ad2sdx in order to increase the number of installed apps.
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Can you explain it little bit to me? I`m not sure how this works.
Do you mean how the script works or what do you have to do to get the script working?
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what do i have to do to get the script working?
Do a backup (titanium, so that you can copy the backupfiles into your harddrive), and repartition the SD card. 1,5 to 2 Gb should be more than enough. Your problem is the same one I had with MIUI-XJ. Like people have said over, the problem is too little space on the partition. If you want to keep your messages and whatever else, there are apps to backup them as well. So... Yeah, 1,5-2GB of ext4 partition, than rewind.
But my sd card is already partitioned. How can i erase sd-ext, so i can partition it again?
Personaly if it was me id boot into recovery then do a backup then wipe/factory reset, wipe dalvik+cache and partition sdcard again (1gb) atleast, flash rom (install) restore backup. But thats just me
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gomcho said:
This ROM requires 1 to 1.5GB ext4.
You might need to extend the sd-ext partition.
The easiest would be to backup your phone, repartition through recovery and reinstall the ROM.
I've been using this ROM for quite some time now and everything works perfectly with a 1GB ext partition.
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Woops mist ur post sorry. But i agree
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Hey People,
As the title shows I have some questions about using Link2sd correctly.
First off my phone is rooted and is using a standard VM rom with most of the bloatware already removed and apps2sd built into the rom.
I am only using a 4 gig SD card that has 2 partitions.
In Link2sd SD(/mnt/sdcard) card shows total .97GB and SD Card 2nd Part (/data/sdext2) has total 2.84GB.
I think I have them backwards, should /mnt/sdcard be the larger partition since that is the one I have access to?
And what is the difference between Linking something to the SD card and just moving it to the SD card?
From what I have gathered when something is Linked to the SD card it gets moved to the /data/sdext2.
And if you just move it to the SD card it gets moved to the /mnt/sdcard partition.
When would you choose one over the other?
Thanks
Quick study Links2SD can move any app; A2SD can only move apps written to be moved to SD [/sdcard]. I prefer to use the ext2 or ext3 [/sdext] as much as possible for apps as its a native file system [android is a linux branch after all]. The fat32 can cause longer delays at boot time imo. I believe your partition sizes to be a good choice though. Your fat32 will fill up with nandroids, downloaded roms and mods, music, documents and such before you know it
Hope that helps.
Rob
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I think your ext partition is to big for a 4gb sdcard, you may want to reduce it to 1gb or 2gb if you have plenty of apps. Let me tell you more about this link2sd, app2sd and data2sd so that you will understand better and be able to decide which is suitable for your phone.
As mentioned above, link2sd moves apps to your ext2/ext3/ext4 partition. But not only apps or the apk's, it also moves the dalvik, cache, and library files supporting the apps. The advantage of link2sd is the freedom to choose which of those you want to move. You can easily check or uncheck this options during the linking process.
Native app2sd moves apps to the fat32 partition (/sdcard). And it only moves the apk, leaving cache, dalvik and library files in the internal memory. If you have several applications moved in this manner, a certain portion of your internal memory is still being consumed.
There's also Data2Sd, it creates a link of the entire /data folder and moves everything to the ext partition. Logically speaking, your ext partition becomes your /data partition. The original data partition now becomes a useless space. The advantage of this is the size of your internal memory, which is only limited to the size of your ext partition. But there's also a disadvantage, to use app2sd you need a fast sdcard (category 6 and above is recommended) because everything is now residing on the sdcard which is normally slower than the built-in memory and may result to lagging on some applications.
I have a new SD cart I have partition it like the 1i use know
How do I copy all of my staff from one card to another? So that link 2sd will work with no problem?
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anhelogr said:
I have a new SD cart I have partition it like the 1i use know
How do I copy all of my staff from one card to another? So that link 2sd will work with no problem?
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I you mean the apps linked into your old sdcard, then do this:
1. Backup all your apps using titanium backup. The backup will be stored in your /sdcard under "TitaniumBackup" folder.
2. Use a card reader to copy that folder to your new sdcard.
3. Insert your new sdcard to your phone, then download and reinstall titanium backup.
It will automatically scan for backup up files in your sdcard and will allow you to restore all your apps.
Ok thanks s I will try this
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Why is link2sd not finding my ext 2 particion ?
Is this because I used cwr to particion my SD card ?
I have made a 2gb ext2 with 512 swap I have linked a lot of apps to SD card but when I get the memory status I get the SD particion not detected
What can I do? The think is that the phone works fine
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2GB is probably more that you'll ever need. I've always used 1GB and it has not yet run out.
Could you clarify what you mean when you say that you have linked a lot of apps but the SD partition is not detected?
Does Link2SD say that the apps are on the sdcard or the apps are LINKED to SD?
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2GB is probably more that you'll ever need. I've always used 1GB and it has not yet run out.
Could you clarify what you mean when you say that you have linked a lot of apps but the SD partition is not detected?
Does Link2SD say that the apps are on the sdcard or the apps are LINKED to SD?
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Well the problem is this when I open the link2sd a windows pops up and tells me to choose
Ext2 ext 3 ext 4 fat 32 if I choose ext 2 it say that it can't found the ext2 and I have to do a restart then it finds the ext2 and tells me to restart again if I do not turn the phone off there is no problem but if I turn the phone off at night I have to do this again:banghead: in order for the link2sd to find the ext2 partition if I go to link2sd settings storage use the 2end partition is not available only if I do 2 restarts
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Did you ever use data2sd or s2e or anything else which uses the sd-ext partition? It sounds like there might be a conflict between different startup scripts.
Could you open a root explorer (Or terminal or adb) and find the init.d folder.
On my CM9, the folder is at /system/system/etc/init.d
Post here a list of all the files inside that folder.
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Did you ever use data2sd or s2e or anything else which uses the sd-ext partition? It sounds like there might be a conflict between different startup scripts.
Could you open a root explorer (Or terminal or adb) and find the init.d folder.
On my CM9, the folder is at /system/system/etc/init.d
Post here a list of all the files inside that folder.
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No I haven't use anythink
I have a new rom Installed with link2sd ready for use
I have a lot of free space the rom is what I wanted the only promplem is this :banghead:
The solution is never turn off my phone (I think this is no good for any phone )
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No I haven't use anythink
I have a new rom Installed with link2sd ready for use
I have a lot of free space the rom is what I wanted the only promplem is this :banghead:
The solution is never turn off my phone (I think this is no good for any phone )
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I've got confirmation that the Link2SD/a2sd in this ROM are working just fine. Many users have reported that; and a few users have even told me that Data2SD also works just fine (I dunno... I only use Link2SD) with the only point being that you can't delete/uninstall any of the app2sd scripts that come bundled with the ROM. If you must use Data2SD (why??) then simply install it and you're off and running. Other than that, Link2SD should work just fine (it does for me and, literally, hundreds others).
I suspect this has to do with what/how you restored from Titanium Backup... or the fact that you partitioned with CWM. No offense, but CWM's strength is in backup/recovery, not partitioning (or even partitioning WIPING, if you read a few key posts on this forum).
I suggest you format with MiniTool Partition Wizard (lots of good tutorials on XDA). I'm using ext2fs myself and it works just fine (of course, ext4fs also works... I've tried it myself).
Good luck,
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I've got confirmation that the Link2SD/a2sd in this ROM are working just fine. Many users have reported that; and a few users have even told me that Data2SD also works just fine (I dunno... I only use Link2SD) with the only point being that you can't delete/uninstall any of the app2sd scripts that come bundled with the ROM. If you must use Data2SD (why??) then simply install it and you're off and running. Other than that, Link2SD should work just fine (it does for me and, literally, hundreds others).
I suspect this has to do with what/how you restored from Titanium Backup... or the fact that you partitioned with CWM. No offense, but CWM's strength is in backup/recovery, not partitioning (or even partitioning WIPING, if you read a few key posts on this forum).
I suggest you format with MiniTool Partition Wizard (lots of good tutorials on XDA). I'm using ext2fs myself and it works just fine (of course, ext4fs also works... I've tried it myself).
Good luck,
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I though the same that the problem is the partition method I use I will try the mini tool
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I found the problem I was selecting ext2 for link2sd but when I use mini tool it said ext3 so I load up again the card start link2sd ext3 reboot and vouala all ok know I really enjoy my phone
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