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Dual booting on the Desire GSM

Has anyone tired to dual boot on their desire?
I am looking for a way to do it for free if possible.
This one is for Desire HD so I don't think it works on the desire
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1173309&page=1
This one requires a market app but I am not sure if it even works.
http://www.inspiredgeek.com/2011/08...htc-desire-hd-thunderbolt-etc-complete-guide/
Can anyone please confirm if either of these method works? or if you have a tried and tested method for the desire.. can you please share?

the boot manager app should work on desire
it says in supported devices:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.drx2.bootmanager

+1 for BootManager
I've had CM7 [Phone ROM] and MIUI [SD-Car ROM] dual booting.
MIUI seemed to work well on a class-2 SD-Card, although a class-6 or higher is recommended.
It takes around 400MB of space on your SD-Card for the Boot.img and the Data.img and other files.

I'm sure this thing will mess up everything.
It will be either slow or it will consume too much memory.

filipd said:
I'm sure this thing will mess up everything.
It will be either slow or it will consume too much memory.
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BootManager doesn't at all. The 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th ROMs run from the SD-Card, so its speed depends on which class of SD-Card you have. Like I say, I have the lowest class of SD-Card and MIUI ran very smoothly indeed, while taking up no more RAM than a normal MIUI installation.

Didn't even think this was possible. Going to try this weekend. Thanks for the tip.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

But you need to s-off right..

TopGear63z said:
But you need to s-off right..
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I don't think you do. I'm sure I remember using this before I achieved S-OFF, I'm pretty sure only root and an SD-Card with ~500MB free is required.

Thanks guys, I did try boot manager but I can't get it to work. it does not seems to allow me to fully flash the ROM.
I choose install zip and then tell it to use one of the slots and tick the boxes to do a wipe. then it goes thru the motions and tells me it cannot find boot.img.

Are you s-off. I checked it, you indeed need s-off to let this work properly

yes I am s-off and I have the stock hboot. 1GB EXT3 and 3GB of free space. the sdcard is class 4.
I am not sure if the ROM in the NAND affects it,. I am using the desire stock Gingerbread rom.

TopGear63z said:
Are you s-off. I checked it, you indeed need s-off to let this work properly
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Hear is a cool tip!
If your flashing oxygen or another small rom, go into settings and set the system mb size as 100, and data as, well whatever you like, as it's on the sd, you can choose the sizes of your partitions! (you can leave the other settings empty) Just don't make system/data too small or the rom won't boot.
This way you can save space on your sd card, as standard it ll put a 250mb .img file on your sd but only use 95 mb of it etc.
I've used it a while and the only issue is that the roms you want to put on the sd have to support either ext 2 or ext4, (sd partitions are not required though).
Also it's a bit of a battery killer when using an sd rom.

Also I can confirm,
Leedroid 2.4 no a2sd works well. Set as ext2.
Leedroid 3.0.8.2 works but the a2sd part didn't. Set as ext2.
Cyanogen works great. Set as ext4.
Miui. Can't remember ext.
oxygen 2.2.1. Set as ext2.

Just to confirm MIUI.
I tried the latest MIUI_Au on Ext-4 and it works nicely

[Q] Need help changing ROM

Hello !
I had my Desire 1 month ago but I was in vacation so I couldn't download any soft to root my phone.today, I rooted my HTC and installed ClockWork Recovery with Unrevoked , this was simple. Now I want to install a custom ROM : LeeDrOiD HD (I'll update to have Sense 3.0)
But, I see two versions : Data++ and A2SD++, What do they mean ? I kown I have to do a EXT3 1 Gb Partition on my microSD. Can I do it with my Ubuntu Linux or I have to do it with GParted Live CD ?
Thanks in advance !!!

omar93500 said:
Hello !
I had my Desire 1 month ago but I was in vacation so I couldn't download any soft to root my phone.today, I rooted my HTC and installed ClockWork Recovery with Unrevoked , this was simple. Now I want to install a custom ROM : LeeDrOiD HD (I'll update to have Sense 3.0)
But, I see two versions : Data++ and A2SD++, What do they mean ? I kown I have to do a EXT3 1 Gb Partition on my microSD. Can I do it with my Ubuntu Linux or I have to do it with GParted Live CD ?
Thanks in advance !!!
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davebugyi said:
Data++ is a technique that was first implemented and tested by ClassicalDude. Using a re-laid out nand MTD, only the davlik-cache is retained in the internal memory. All .apk's are moved to the SD-EXT partition, where they are rarely accessed. This means a HD RoM can be fit in 180MB, leaving a lot of room for userdata which will remain in the internal memory. This results in a lightning fast ROM which stays fast through with no lag whatsoever during market downloads etc. Add to this the cool fix from coolexe and baadnewz that creates a dynamically resizable ram-disk for market downloads: and you have a great RoM that doesn't need to waste space for cache and will never have a market download fail!]/quote]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992176
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A2SD+ is a script which moves all apps you install automatically to an ext partition on your sd card. You must not do anyhting. If you use "move to sd card" in application settings, the app will be moved to fat32 partition of sd card. Android can only difference between apps in " internal memoory" and in "fat32 partition of sd card". Furthermore, with A2SD+ the dalvik-cache will be also moved to the sd ext partition on your sd card (which does not happen, if the rom is only using a2sd).
To sum it up, a2sd+ moves only apps and dalvik-cache to an ext partition on your sdcard, whereas data++ also moves some system apps to it. That's the reason why roms with data++ works with less space for internal system partition.
You can use Ubuntu to partition your sd card. If gparted is not included (I do not remember, installed ubuntu some time ago), you can download it from ubuntu software center (search for "gnome partition editor").

What do you think I should choose ?

omar93500 said:
What do you think I should choose ?
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I cannot say it, I did not employ with the advantages of each script. Compare both advantages and disadvantages, and then pick.

Last question ^^,
I made a GoldCard to install the official Froyo months ago, now I want to change my microSd to a 8Go one, do I have to make it GoldCard (to install a Custom ROM) ?

omar93500 said:
Last question ^^,
I made a GoldCard to install the official Froyo months ago, now I want to change my microSd to a 8Go one, do I have to make it GoldCard (to install a Custom ROM) ?
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No. The goldcard has nothing to do with the rom. It's only connected to sd card. You can stay with the one you have.

Thanks a lot man !!

[Q] Need S-OFF for updating to latest radio?

Rooted my Desire long time ago using Unrevoked. Used MIUI for al long time, now want to switch to CM 7.1
Read all the treats, but still i'm not sure iff i have to have S-OFF for updating to the latest radio.
facts:
- S-ON
- stock radio
All tips welcome
Thnx in advance
Kaffer (near newbee)

Flash the downloaded radio.zip via recovery.

Thnx MatDrOiD, works like a charm.
Now i only have to find out wich way i can partition my 16Gig SD-card best..

Gparted Linux

kaffer said:
Thnx MatDrOiD, works like a charm.
Now i only have to find out wich way i can partition my 16Gig SD-card best..
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No problem. Do not forget to use the thanks-button.
Either with as already GParted or recovery. Recommended recoveries are 4EXT or RMD.

I am familiar with Gparted and Easeus in Windows, but I do not know which format I should hold for CM7.1
- 1 Gig ext 3 or 4?
- 500mb swap?
- The rest fat32
(this is what i had with succes for my previous MIUI rom)

OK.. i created with MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition 7.0 (freeware):
13.7 GB FAT32
1.1 GB Ext4
102 MB Linux Swap
Still only 106 MB internal memory left..
What am i doing wrong??
I'm using "update-cm-7.1.0-Desire-signed.zip" straight from the CM website.
...I almost start to think that A2SD is not supported...

Firstly, NEVER EVER partition your SD card MiniTool Partition Wizard!! Use GParted or your recovery.
Secondly, CM7 does not officially support A2SD. You have to flash darktremor's A2SD-script (can be found in CM7-thread here on XDA) in recovery use a2sdGUI from Android Market.
Thirdly, to get full use of CM7 I recommend to go S-OFF and flash CM7r2 Hboot.

Just flash it via recovery. no need of s-off.

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Firstly, NEVER EVER partition your SD card MiniTool Partition Wizard!! Use GParted or your recovery.
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Yep, comfirm that! Minitool sucks, Gparted did the job correct
MatDrOiD said:
Secondly, CM7 does not officially support A2SD. You have to flash darktremor's A2SD-script (can be found in CM7-thread here on XDA) in recovery use a2sdGUI from Android Market.
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Pitty that CM7 doesn't support A2SD.. Worked really well on my MIU rom.
Annyway, Darktremmor's solution works fine (for now) Thanks for the tip MatDrOiD!
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Thirdly, to get full use of CM7 I recommend to go S-OFF and flash CM7r2 Hboot.
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Not for now, me being a newbee.
Maybe later when i see the advantages.
Can you tell me what you mean by "to get full use of CM7 I recommend to go S-OFF and flash CM7r2 Hboot"

CM7 along with many of the AOSP ROMs is smaller than sense ROMs. Therefore if you are s -off you can flash a custom hboot Which will reduce the size of your system partition & increase the size of your data partition.
Although many ROMs support apps to ext partitions only a few will move data to the sd partition. By changing the hboot you can make use of the space created by a smaller ROM.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

kaffer said:
Yep, comfirm that! Minitool sucks, Gparted did the job correct
Pitty that CM7 doesn't support A2SD.. Worked really well on my MIU rom.
Annyway, Darktremmor's solution works fine (for now) Thanks for the tip MatDrOiD!
Not for now, me being a newbee.
Maybe later when i see the advantages.
Can you tell me what you mean by "to get full use of CM7 I recommend to go S-OFF and flash CM7r2 Hboot"
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CM7 only needs less than 145 MB on /system partition (I am talking about the desire's internal memory, which usually has this partiton layout: 250 MB /system, 40 MB /cache and 145 MB /data) and only 5 MB for /cache. So by using stock hboot with CM7 you would waste nearly 140 MB space for installing apps. Not very useful, isn't it. So with the CM7r2 Hboot you would get full use of Cyanogenmod.
But beware. You cannot flash the radio via recovery now, because the cache-partition is too small. So you have to do it via fastboot. It may sound scary, but if you are very careful and search better too much than too little and ask if you are completely unsure, nothing can happen. Futhermore, you will find much guides here on XDA which will help you.

[Q] Enable Link2SD or A2SD?

Anyone know how to enable and install Link2SD or DT's A2SD on a stock rom? I know Darkshado's method, when you need to flash simpligio without the modem. But is there a way without flashing another rom? I'm also aware of enabling of enabling A2SD for the Galaxy Ace but if I try this on my Gio, will it be safe??? Please help. Thanks for your time!

Hi,
I'm using stock froyo 2.2.1 (S5660DXKC3), rooted and using link2sd.
It very easy to install the link2sd. i suggest using class 10 microsd. Here is the step:
1. Using a PC/laptop, create 2 partition in microsd, 1st is fat32, 2nd is ext2. Set both are primary partition. i use the partition wizard home edition (is free)
2. Set the 2nd partition size not more than 1 Gb, i heard that it will cause an error if more than 1 Gb. Mine are set to 0.8 Gb.
3. Root your phone, i'm using super one click
4. Install link2sd from market
5. Insert your microsd to your phone
6. Start link2sd, it will ask for the 2nd partition. pick the ext2
7. Reboot/restart your phone

If you want to use A2sd on stock rom, use must use modified boot.img. A2sd can't work on standard boot.img (CMIIW)

And use custom kernel
Sent from my GT-S5660 using xda premium

Peteragent5 said:
Anyone know how to enable and install Link2SD or DT's A2SD on a stock rom? I know Darkshado's method, when you need to flash simpligio without the modem. But is there a way without flashing another rom? I'm also aware of enabling of enabling A2SD for the Galaxy Ace but if I try this on my Gio, will it be safe??? Please help. Thanks for your time!
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To enable link2SD or a2SD on 2.2 it is very easy.but on gingerbread,you need to flash a custom kernel（such as phiexz's kernel）,because of the kernel doesn't support init.d script.
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Yes thank you all for your reply! But after one year with no reply I figured this out on my own! lol Thanks anyway guys!!

Peteragent5 said:
Yes thank you all for your reply! But after one year with no reply I figured this out on my own! lol Thanks anyway guys!!
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Can you please outline this process. Thanks.

FusiveR said:
Can you please outline this process. Thanks.
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Yes helllp! I used the cwm recovery to make a 1gb ext partition. But i have no option sd: ext3>ext4... I 'successfully' installled a2sd regardless... But a2sdgui doesnt recognize it and i cant use a2sd commands in terminal! I have a 32gb class 4 transcend card... Where am i going wrong?

FusiveR said:
Can you please outline this process. Thanks.
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Yes helllp! I used the cwm recovery to make a 1gb ext partition. But i have no option sd: ext3>ext4... I 'successfully' installled a2sd regardless... But a2sdgui doesnt recognize it and i cant use a2sd commands in terminal! I have a 32gb class 4 transcend card... Where am i going wrong?
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Use a SD card reader!! Not from your phone!! Also you need custom kernel.
Ok first partition your SD card. Use the program call MiniTool Partition Wizard. This is on your PC. There are guides all over the web for this but I'll sum it up for youse. Make a SD-EXT with the options > Primary > Ext4 > 4Kb Cluster size
Download Darktremor's A2SD and put in the root of your SDcard. Once done plug SD back to phone. Make sure phone is off. Enter recovery and find the a2sd zip and flash. Reboot the phone and it will bootloop for maybe 2 times. Then it should have installed a2sd correctly!!
Hope this helps

merci! I DO indeed have a custom kernel (ArpegGioMod ftw) but I bit the bullet and installed Link2SD, and it seems to be performing okay.. slightly sluggish fps with Mupen64, but nothing a little OC can't fix. lol

Just for your information, you don't need to have a custom kernel for Link2SD.
I'm using it with 2 primary fat partitions on (rooted) stock 2.3.4.
And It's working like a charm.

Has anyone noticed that on a reboot link2sd starts to relink apps and sometimes some apps are removed from the phone. I have always experienced this and I have reinstalled link2sd many times, but the problem still persists.

PVT4 ver. and move apps to SD problems

Hello.
Recently I got changed faulty motherboard of my HTC Bravo GSM. Before that I was using CM7 and other custom Roms with the scipts that moves apps to Sd. Discovered that my new motherboard is PVT4 revision, so the root process was not so easy like with PVT1, but I managed to root it.
The problem is now, when I use any ROM + scipts that moves apps to EXT-SD, the phone starts to freeze, lag, and many applications or system processes wants to 'Force Close'. Tried two microSD cards, full system wipe - all the same.
With Old motherboard CM7 + Simple2ext woked great (because of faulty MB it rebooted constantly, but no lags ar Force closes)
So does the PVT4 version somehow affect the process of application data and dalvik cache moving to EXT-SD?
Hoping for help. Thanks.

Things to try:-
- Redo partitioning and format of sdcard with 4ext or gparted only.
- Which a2sd? Darktremor works for me with cm7.
- Move in stages in a2sd. First move apps. Then move dalvik. Check in stages.

Not encountering any issues like you do. PVT4+CM7+S2E
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I'm not sure but I think you need s-off to have a2sd scripts working properly.

nlooooo said:
I'm not sure but I think you need s-off to have a2sd scripts working properly.
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I rooted the phone firstly, with Revolutinary - it gave S-off, and the symptoms were the same. I thought it didnt like the rooting method, so I rerooted it with Revolutionary and amon ra revocvery, but id didnt change anything
I tried S2E (simple2ext), tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342387 too. All the same.
Ext3 or Ext4, does it make any difference?
stankyou, did your GPS worked, or did you had to apply GPSfromICS_signed.zip?

Which recovery do you use? If you used cwm to partition your sd than that can make problems. Use 4ext to partition your sd.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Flashes and Thunders

nlooooo said:
Which recovery do you use? If you used cwm to partition your sd than that can make problems. Use 4ext to partition your sd.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Flashes and Thunders
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used g-parted to make partitions - ext3, linux-swap, fat32. Recovery is Amon Ra. Still dont have a clue in which direction to search

Use ext4 file system for sd-ext, don't use swap cause most of roms don't require it. I also recommend you to install 4ext recovery and repartition sd using it. You can find it here
www.4ext.net
Go there and download recovery updater app and use it to flash recovery.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Flashes and Thunders

You need to have only 2 primary partitions. First - fat32. Second - ext4. Swap not req.
Suggest redo.
Sent from my Desire

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Use ext4 file system for sd-ext, don't use swap cause most of roms don't require it. I also recommend you to install 4ext recovery and repartition sd using it. You can find it here
www.4ext.net
Go there and download recovery updater app and use it to flash recovery.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Flashes and Thunders
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thnx, will try this method

kpcz said:
stankyou, did your GPS worked, or did you had to apply GPSfromICS_signed.zip?
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I use nightlies. The last two stable releases weren't good.

stankyou said:
I use nightlies. The last two stable releases weren't good.
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which move apps to SD script do you use?

kpcz said:
which move apps to SD script do you use?
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S2E app on the market. I really don't bother with all the other scripts and implementations out there.

re-formatted SD card - 1024 - ext4, remaining - fat32. ROM - cm-7-20120826-NIGHTLY-bravo and installed Darktremor Apps2SD 2.7.5.3 Beta 04. Moved apps and dalvik cache to sd-ext.
Now installing apps, so far no glitches and force closes. GPS works without fixes, as it was with stable CM releases. So fingers crossed.
Thanks for the suggestions

Strange, the camera flashlight and the torch application, not switching on the back led. Still problems

kpcz said:
Strange, the camera flashlight and the torch application, not switching on the back led. Still problems
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I'm not getting that problem whatsoever. I'm on Aug 19th nightlies. My suggestion is to do a clean install. Check everything is working fine before you install your apps. I've used S2E on the Playstore and never had a problem with it.
You never specified what hboot or recovery you are using. Also what tool you've used to repartition your SD card. Gparted would be the best one to use aside from 4ExtRecovery's sd partition feature.

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I'm not getting that problem whatsoever. I'm on Aug 19th nightlies. My suggestion is to do a clean install. Check everything is working fine before you install your apps. I've used S2E on the Playstore and never had a problem with it.
You never specified what hboot or recovery you are using. Also what tool you've used to repartition your SD card. Gparted would be the best one to use aside from 4ExtRecovery's sd partition feature.
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Yep,did the clean install, probably will reinstall the ROM again.
Hboot is stock and the recovery is Amon Ra. Hboot version could change anything? To format sd card I used Gparted.

kpcz said:
Yep,did the clean install, probably will reinstall the ROM again.
Hboot is stock and the recovery is Amon Ra. Hboot version could change anything? To format sd card I used Gparted.
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I use a custom Hboot basically somewhere between Oxygen and CM7r2 in System size. So I really do not need to move /data/dalvik and /data/data to the sd-ext like your set up do. Advantage is my phone doesnt have to read those data from the SD card and lessens the load quite a bit making it a bit fast on pulling up info.
Anyway, try to just use the rom without any of your apps and see if the issue persists. One thing you can also try is fix permissions via recovery. I would also recommend using 4EXT Recovery. You'll notice that it's quite popular on the desire forum.

installed Stock ROM + unrooted my Desire. And the flashlight still doesnt work.. Eh, back to the warranty... but at least there were no force closes and gliches any more.