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Getting VoIP working for WM6 cooked ROMS

Hi, I'm looking at the various WM6 releases and I'm trying to understand how much functionality for VoIP exists in these ROMS, and what is required to get it working.
From the various reviews on WM6, when Internet Calling is correctly installed it seems to appear as an additional "Internet" tab under phone settings as well as being integrated with the WM6 dialer. I also belive that MS also provides additional hooks for developers (such as dialing third party dialer from Contexts with SIP dial strings).
Looking at the XDA Live version (screen shots only as I'm running a different ROM), it looks like it has the "Internet" tab under Phone Settings for Internet Calling, although people have indicated the functionality is not working. Is this a dialer integration issue then?
I have the LVSW ROM running on my Hermes (great ROM BTW ) and I don't even get the "Internet" tab.
So:
- Can anybody upload the standalone related components such as VoIP.cab, WM6 dialer (not just the skins) along with corresponding registry settings to switch to the correct dialer.
Update: Found the VoIP cab in FTP, was only recently added. still looking for additional info
- Is there any additional info/posts/sites/wiki that can shed more information on this?
At the moment I'm using a thirdparty SIP application that works well, but it has poor integeration with the OS. I've tried other SIP apps.
On the same thread, has anybody tried the dialer/SIP by BeWIP?
Update: Also saw this thread over on the Wizard forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290786
Update: Another interesting thread about updating CommManager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296001

patience.... patience....

well, I think this thread might be a good thread to collect information on this topic.
I would also like to have Internet (SIP) calling from WM6
I currently use SjPhone and it is fine but it really has no integration with the OS.
So the greatest addition of WM6 voip calling feature would be integration.
However, it should be highly customizable (sip server selection, codec selection etc.)
Can we make this thread sticky ? I think Golfman has collected some important links under his post.

Have you guys tested Skype? I did and it worked quite all right.

Prerna said:
Have you guys tested Skype? I did and it worked quite all right.
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Skype is Voip but not SIP. Some of us would love a nicely integrated SIP client.

I'm using Skype and X-Pro now, but i would prefer a real built-in SIP Client.
Perhaps it isn't that hard to get it running...

I also use Octrotalk. That's googletalk for WM5
It really works fine with voice.
But that's not SIP again.
We really miss an integrated sip client which can be customizable like SJphone.
Perhaps a sticky thread on this issue would help us but no one makes that.

Sleuth... you not sharing something you found?

I'm curious about something.
The one thing I don't like about Skype is because it doesn't allow me to use my bt headset. Now this VOIP that would be intergrated in wm6 does anyone know if it will let you use bt headset like with regular phone calls?
I mean is this basicly like Skype where you can make free phone calls? If you have unlimited data of course..
Just curious

Skype and misc VoIP...
I run X-Pro at the moment as my SIP client, I used SJPhone and had to do some tweaking to stop the voice jitter - XPro just seems to work better.
On WM6 and "Internet Calling", I've tried some of the xml settings but no dice at the moment - I've not enough time to really go through the M$ docs its a bit of a paper blizzard.
I'm personally not a fan of Skype for several reasons.
-READ THE SMALL PRINT OF THE EULA, ESPECIALLY REGARDING BEING MADE A SUPERNODE
- Its a closed protocol
- Only allows single session
I like SIP, however it does have some NAT issues
One thing that I was disappointed when I got my Hermes phone and I'm not sure if anybody can come up with a solution. Once the phone goes into standby, the Wi-Fi radio turns off to save power. Therefore unless a SIP call is coming in on a Cellular data-plan, the SIP client only works when you want to make a call - would be nice if the built in WM6 client had true radio integration, it might just not be possible unless you want a dead battery real fast.
I was hoping to be able to use my Cell Phone as a cordless in the house (connecting to my SIP server in the house). Dedicated SIP Wi-Fi phones are still way to expensieve.

Golfman said:
Hi, I'm looking at the various WM6 releases and I'm trying to understand how much functionality for VoIP exists in these ROMS, and what is required to get it working.
From the various reviews on WM6, when Internet Calling is correctly installed it seems to appear as an additional "Internet" tab under phone settings as well as being integrated with the WM6 dialer. I also belive that MS also provides additional hooks for developers (such as dialing third party dialer from Contexts with SIP dial strings).
Looking at the XDA Live version (screen shots only as I'm running a different ROM), it looks like it has the "Internet" tab under Phone Settings for Internet Calling, although people have indicated the functionality is not working. Is this a dialer integration issue then?
I have the LVSW ROM running on my Hermes (great ROM BTW ) and I don't even get the "Internet" tab.
So:
- Can anybody upload the standalone related components such as VoIP.cab, WM6 dialer (not just the skins) along with corresponding registry settings to switch to the correct dialer.
Update: Found the VoIP cab in FTP, was only recently added. still looking for additional info
- Is there any additional info/posts/sites/wiki that can shed more information on this?
At the moment I'm using a thirdparty SIP application that works well, but it has poor integeration with the OS. I've tried other SIP apps.
On the same thread, has anybody tried the dialer/SIP by BeWIP?
Update: Also saw this thread over on the Wizard forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290786
Update: Another interesting thread about updating CommManager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296001
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You will find the solution for what you are looking for at http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/299950//
--eluth.

yeah iwill like to see a nice sip client integrated in the rom

Works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596682

great cabs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596682

Which SIP ???

Hi!
Some days ago I have installed LSWS's WM6 ROM (2.0.1.1) + RADIO 1.41 to my P3600....perfect!
Now, how (using the easier way...) I can made a Phone-Call over the internet??
I must use a WiFi connection (not 3G !!) and I want call a STANDARD phone (not another voip phone!)
however....which software can I use ??
SkyPe + SkyPe Out account??
And, IF i want use the standard WM6's Phone application??
Tnks,
Axel

...please!

WengophoneMobile or Sjphone.
Bye.

XTen Softphone works ok for me.-
BR Landy.-

Well my friend use the information they have on the thread about the voip on WM6, (sorry don't remember which one but with some search you will find it...). Follow the instructions and you will get a good connection and internet calling from your dialpad. Yet this means you have to be registered with a SIP provider like voipbuster etc....
Skype also works fine, follow the instructions fro Skype site and download file for the trinity. Then install and you are set to go.
To make outgoing calls in both cases you need to have credit on the account. Also, the sound is much better through the headphones that come with the phone, I suggest to use them unless you want everyone to listen to your conversation, as in any other case the sound goes through the loudspeaker of the phone...
good luck

VoIP RTP

Hi Guys,
I`m trying to run the voip things on my windows mobile, but looks like something is broken.
I already installed the voip files as well as the registry settings. Next step was to configure my voip account - so far so good. There is no problem with the registration (I can see my registration is successful to the SIP proxy).
I`m doing a call to another SIP device and the call is successful. The problem is with the RTP - the other side can hear my voice but I cannot her the other side. I already did tcpdump in order to trace the problem and it looks like the RTP is hitting my device without any problem. It sounds like codec issue to me - probably my codecs are not OK, i.e. the RTP cannot be decoded. I already tryied with G711 as well as with the GSM codec, but still no luck.
Any suggestions will be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

HI Guys,
Me again
It looks like the msg711.dll is missing under my \Windows directory. Can someone attach it here plus the acmdwrap.dll file ?
I`m despairing and ready to donate some beer

WM6.0 SIP client configuration - Not working

WM6.0 SIP client configuration - Not working
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Hi all,
I have followed the procedure in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299950 and now i get Internet calling enabled in my device. However i could not make call. I am using the ondo SIP server for testing, no real service provider. I have tried many times and am not successful in getting it work.
However my doubt now is can the SIP client be configured in any of the three WM6.0 Operating system. It has 3 flavours :
1. WM6.0 Classic
2. WM6.0 Professional
3. WM6.0 Standard.
Can the SIP client be unlocked and worked from all the three or any specific flavour only ?
I think those who have made it work can provide insights into it. This is quite important for me. As till now i have been testing with WM6.0 professional. We intend to buy a WM6.0 device, so which flavour should we opt for ?
Hoping to get an earliest positive response.

im goin to be honest:
1. WM6.0 CLassic --> It works, but speakerphone sound (no earpiece)
2. WM6.0 Proff--> Same as classic
3. WM6.0 Standard--> Works bcoz says Internet Calling not available but when I configure a working server, it freezes my device at startup, so I have to hardreset it
Clear voice, Good responsiveness. So WM6.0 VoIP is quite good

I am using a LAN setup . Server used in Ondo server. But then my SIP client does not get registered with the server. Is it possible to try making calls using direct IP without any servers involved ?

kk2202,
Are you using any firewall at the SIP Server's machine?
I think you need to open SIP port (UDP 5060) at the firewall or disable it.
I'm using Ondo server (aka Brekeke SIP Server) without any problem.

Hi, did you make a _setup.xml with your settings and manage to install it?
If not make sure your phone is application unlocked and then follow the instructions again.
I'm successful on WM 6.1 Standard
You might also check for the Prov0Settings file and attach your xml here for verification.
My NAT creates problems for my Sipura 2100 box, but my softphones including the WM6.1 client gets through it without problems. For this reason I don't think your issues are NAT related. You might see the searching state, however when the IP phone icon appears in the top bar you should be good to go.

I might also add that if you suspect NAT issues you could try Fring www.fring.com/cab it is really easy to setup. If that works then it's clearly a configuration issue.

Hi,
I have attached the _setup.xml for verification. 192.168.0.101 is the machine where the ondo SIP server is running.
What should i check in Prov0Settings in this file. It gets created when i install my .cab file.

Fring is not working on WM6
Hey guys,
Im new to the XDA developer site, recently i have upgraded my Imate Jas Jam from WM5(Telestra) to WM6(3 Network) using "HERM_DOPODASIA_WWE_3.54.707.3_6275_CustomRUU" I have downloaded fring from www.fring.com/cab
Installation is successful, but when i start Fring it simplay shows up the screen which says fring is loading then close application, tried too many times could'nt make this to work, any ideas...
your help is appreciated

Reliable VoIP on Hermes? Experiences?

Hi,
I would like to use my Hermes as a VoIP device via WiFi. To be more precise, I want to use it seriously, not just to play around. The battery time is neglectible, server-side voip configuration and codes can be adjusted.
So far I have seen Schaps WM6.0 Rom, the Voipwm6.cab's, the voip Drivers .cab and destr0`s cab (I have also tested some overfilled Rom Images with Voip support).
My experience so far has been rather disappointing, laggy connections, no reconnecting after Wlan disconnect, lack of speech codecs. This seems surprising to me, as there are other WM6 based devices, with similiar memory and processor power, being marketed as business-VoIP devices (eg. some iPAQs). So, as far as I understand, it should be possible to enable full VoIP functionality, quality and reliability by chosing the right software.
My question:
Is somebody here using VoIP on a Hermes daily? What setup are you using, which drivers did you install? Are there WM6.1 Voip drivers availible? I do not like this mixing up of different library versions, which seems to be popular with the rom kitchens.

SKYPE MOBILE FIND IT ON THE SKYPE SITE THATS what I always use I have millions of enteries and errands to run and I have to meet political connections in other countries and I know this sounds boring but here I am and I have to use VOIP NO JOKE

since you asked.....
I fooled around with the same issue for several months. While Fring and the newest version of skype for ppc both gave good sound quality, I have given up on the issue because of an unacceptable voice delay (~0.5 ). I once thought the issue was related to my internet provider - my current opinion is that this is due windows mobile issues and inadequate processing power. Calling in to a local voip dial-in access telephone # via my hermes did NOT produce the same voice delay, nor did internet skype calling via a wifi connection from my computer. I also got the voice delay when I tried calling via a 3g/umts cellular connection and when using some Viop software found on this site. Finally, using every phone 'tweak' I could find on the internet also did not improve the voice delay, nor did different 'fast' custom ROMs improve the issue. If you/or anyone else ever solves the problem of voice delay on the hermes, I would love to know how.

I've been testing NCH Express Talk: http://www.nch.com.au/talk/index.html + this little utility that forces sound output to the earpiece: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396829
I haven't done much field testing, but the quality is much better than inbuilt VoIP, works ok over 3G and unlike Fring, the communication between you and your VoIP provider is direct.

Thanks for your replies and sharing your experiences. At least now I do not feel like a complete idiot. The strange thing is that when I tried Voip on Hermes the first times (just with VoIP.cab etc). and connecting directly to a normal provider sound quality was really good and the lag was low. Some hours later it has been bad.
As far as I am concerned, I have also tested agephone (gives you a lot of configuration options) and i will test voipsurfer (uses iax) a bit more as soon as i find some time.
I will not give up now. Among other things I want to look at the network settings of the Hermes (packet size etc.) and test with a lot of free memory.
I am going to keep this thread updated, as soon as I find out more.

Tremere, thanks for the nch hint. The program gave me a warning about my network setup, which may lead to one-way or lagged audio. Hmm...

Voip
Download fring from yr htc install it and insert yr voip account.
It works like charm.

wallabyman said:
Tremere, thanks for the nch hint. The program gave me a warning about my network setup, which may lead to one-way or lagged audio. Hmm...
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I got around the warning by setting up port forwarding on my router. The audio is fine, both directions work, but the lag is still not acceptable.

I bought a Hermes (8525) about 2 weeks ago and have been trying out different voip methods. Here's my bit:
Skype
+Keeps phone from sleeping so you can always be logged in
+Best sound quality from the ways I've tried
+Very cheap rates for US calls and DID
-Very unstable on my device. I constantly have to soft reset when skype runs
-Skype contacts separate from Hermes contacts
-Speakerphone used by default, which causes bad echoing. Torca2 works to route sound to earpiece, but awkward to start/stop. I haven't managed to get audioswitch to work, which would sort things out.
-Must use +1 on calls, and the + is obnoxious to get to
Fring (with skype)
+More stable, and I can use gmail chat!
+Smoother interface (for me) than skype
-Short to medium delay, enough to be a deal-breaker
-Doesn't stop device from sleeping, so calls in don't work
-Fring contacts separate from Hermes contacts
SIP with Home Asterisk/Sisky-Skype Server
+More control over detailed options
+When at home, great call quality with little delay
+WM6 has built in voip support
+Phone automatically logs into wifi networks and connects back to my home server very well, displays status on today screen
+Hermes contacts dial using voip when available
+Easy to build on and add more phones (mobile and landlines) to the system
-Good quality but bad delay (so far) when connecting remotely through the internet
-Tricky to get set up from scratch
-Requires at least one dedicated server, preferably two
-Sisky enterprise software is proprietary ($60, free 30-day trial)
-Voip stops when the device is in standby. There are supposed to be ways around this but at the cost of battery life. Still testing...
I'm going to try the voip with voipbuster or another provider... but that's next weekend. I'm hoping my home asterisk server pans out, but there's a lot of configurations to learn and perfect.
Here's the link for torca2 again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396829
And audioswitch, which would be a gem if it worked on the hermes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469223