Hi everyone,
it's been a long time since my last project here on xda, but here I come I'm starting a new project and at the beginning I'd like to say that it's a loooong way to finishing it. So please do not ask for eta, because I just can't predict when and if it's going to be finished and released.
My new project is a new UI for WM6.1, 6.6 and 6.5.x. I'm doing ti for VGA but hopefully it will be easy to get it working on WVGA.
Seven UI is based on the new Windows Phone 7 interface. I'm not going to copy it all, I'll try to get some things done better. I just want to keep its style. I know that there are many themes/skins for SPB MS or other interfaces, but I want to build this from scratch, which will be really hard since .netCF doesn't offer access to some system functions or even to the sms inbox!
sound's good...i really apprecciate all your works...great kamill
Another fantastic project for WP7 imitating!!!
Kamill said:
Hi everyone,
it's been a long time since my last project here on xda, but here I come I'm starting a new project and at the beginning I'd like to say that it's a loooong way to finishing it. So please do not ask for eta, because I just can't predict when and if it's going to be finished and released.
My new project is a new UI for WM6.1, 6.6 and 6.5.x. I'm doing ti for VGA but hopefully it will be easy to get it working on WVGA.
Seven UI is based on the new Windows Phone 7 interface. I'm not going to copy it all, I'll try to get some things done better. I just want to keep its style. I know that there are many themes/skins for SPB MS or other interfaces, but I want to build this from scratch, which will be really hard since .netCF doesn't offer access to some system functions or even to the sms inbox!
Below in the attachments I've posted 2 screenshots. One of the home screen and the other of the lockscreen. These are just designs made in VS2008.
I'll post some more details later.
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Looks promising...
I had a question for you... have you tried the sub-pixel font rendering used in WP7 into our current mobiles?
I have created a few fonts for Manila but the Zegoe/Segoe Light do not look good because of this. Do you think you can help out on this?
Thanks guys, I really hope to finish this project!
NNagendran, I'm using Segoe WP - it's quite different than Segoe, imo much nicer and it looks good on the screen. Afaik you can't add antialiasing to the system fonts, you just have to use another font. Sometimes enlarging the text makes it look better.
wow! this is awesome, thanks Kamill
Really looking forward to this! Do you think it can be done without being too slow on the older devices like blackstone or diamond etc.?
I'm testing it on my Diamond, so I'll try to keep it as fast as possible.
wooow cool
considering you and ElCondor's pedigree, re GTX i'm confident this will be awesome
thanks so much!
where is the download for this?
There's no download yet, it's in really early stages of development.
included this on my RSS
more power to you!
My 2 Cents
Looks nice, Looking forward to it.
Cheers
BR
Great work,I love WP7's style
thats kewll
I've decided to divide the project into few steps. The first one is the Messaging app. I may release it as a standalone app, but it's still too early to say when this is going to happen.
Thanks to mapidotnet I'm already able to read all the inbox, so that's a big step forward and thanks to codeproject.com I got the kinetic scrolling list working (smooth!).
Below there's a small preview of how it looks like.
Here's a small video preview of the Messaging app, just to show how you can navigate it. All the animations are really smooth and the transitions are fast (tested on Touch Diamond)
SO we do not need colour screen Only black and white.
It looks nice, keep good work
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Here's a small video preview of the Messaging app, just to show how you can navigate it. All the animations are really smooth and the transitions are fast (tested on Touch Diamond)
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Extraordinary!! I look forward to try this app out!! and of course your user interface!!
will this app be able to run on a WVGA device??
thank you for your effort...
a download link in a PM would be eagerly appreciated!!
greets!
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Why don't cook a ROM with TOUCHFLO2D? Our Diamond could be faster!
Yeah this sounds like a good idea! I would personally prefer a blazing fugging fast 1.93 2D ROM than a sluggish 1.93 3D ROM... (Black Diamond theme of course )
i agree with you...
i use a ROM without TF3d (french Diamondstone rom) and i install Opal version of TF2d (found on this forum) and it work very fine, much faster tan the 3d version
maybe someone can try to cook this way.
it looks good on your device? since its qvga... or did someone edit it to work on vga?
o yar a faster diamond
just what i need..
the 3d is nice and all.. but after a while.. gets tired looking at it.. and besides the 2d version aint that bad...
and the analog clock is so much cooler...
Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices
I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?
Riel said:
I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?
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Not with every Rom, so 2d is much faster.
RideTheTube said:
Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices
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Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
avers said:
Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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thanks a lot bro!
It would be great to have ROM with TF2D! it will result in much faster diamond, extra stogare and memory.
hope one of our great developers will work on it.
cheers.
Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)
simcarloc said:
Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)
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Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.
The ultimate ROM!
losdrivare said:
Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.
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I agree completely! With that kind of speed (like with the tf2d) this ui would be an IPhone killer...
The only thing I am wondering about is, that nobody (as far as I have seen) yet inlcuded a proper SMS (only) Tool (like in iContacts, but without the contacts), because the WM5 version is indiscribably bad..
To bring it to a point (and I hope this is not too far off this topic): Why has nobody yet created a rom that comes standard with S2U2 installed and something like iContact (which directly replaces all the WM5 contacts and the links i.e. from tf3d / tf2d) and a Programs/settings views like in iPhonez(but only that part not the whole iPhonez, we want a killer, not a copy!). and last but not least something like a proper touch-fileexplorer like resco explorer2008(i simply mean the size of the file entries and a little revamping of the original fileexplorer, maybe there is one already?)
If a ROM like that would be put together well (and one of these capable cooks are able to include these tools much deeper and better than when a user installs them into the ROM) we could finally beat the iPhone! (I know its not about beating the iphone, but fact is that the diamond has one nice tf3d tool on top of the same old WM5 which in its original rom is slaggishly slow and is then supposed to beat the well thought through iPhone?? Of course not! there is no alternative that brings the same quality of UI - YET, BUT:
All these great programmers that took their time to create good apps (like iPhonez, iContact, ThumpCal, S2U2, etc..) if (and I know it probably is a challenge to get their agreement to put their stuff in a rom) this would be put togethere into one well made rom, the diamond would be unbeatable!!!!!!
Then get this ROM a bit known as the iphone-killer and this will be picked up in the public a bit more.. finally it could turn out that all these nice programmers get a big bunch of money so that their stuff or a version of it will be used as a permanent part of a stock rom and we all are happy because we will have the best phone ever, made by the people for the people! WHAT A VISION! and its realistic, too! Let's go and use the synergy of all the great cooks and developers and create the SUPER-ROM!!!!
I am ready to pay good developer 50USD to include the existing tools into a personalized ROM, just to have something that prooves the idea and convince the guys to give their permission. (and also to have that myself! )
So who wants the ultimate ROM!!
avers can u give us all the edited files of the tf2d vga u are using ? thanks
avers said:
Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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Where can I find this VGA skin (the one in the attached thumnail)
Thank you
Hi ! I have my Touch HD since around 1 week now.
I'm very happy with it , but and i wonder if it would be possible to modify the manilla interface in order to have something silimar to the Iphone's interface.
I find great to have an instant access to most used programs and functions on the first page, and i believe it's possible to have this feature on our HD.
I've tried to load the "IFonz" but without any success (http://thedogcorner.blogspot.com/2008/10/ifonz-112.html)
Moreover, IFonz is not available for WVGA... so if there would be a kind developper that would make me this present for X'mas, it would be great !!!!
Please help the "deseperate housemen" i am !!!:
roger18 said:
Hi ! I have my Touch HD since around 1 week now.
I'm very happy with it , but and i wonder if it would be possible to modify the manilla interface in order to have something silimar to the Iphone's interface.
I find great to have an instant access to most used programs and functions on the first page, and i believe it's possible to have this feature on our HD.
I've tried to load the "IFonz" but without any success (http://thedogcorner.blogspot.com/2008/10/ifonz-112.html)
Moreover, IFonz is not available for WVGA... so if there would be a kind developper that would make me this present for X'mas, it would be great !!!!
Please help the "deseperate housemen" i am !!!:
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it doesn't exist yet as far as I know but the best way to do it would be with WAD2 (Wisbar Advanced Desktop 2). You should grab it and start toying with ideas there is a thread that discusses wisbar and HD here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462785
and just for you here is a link to others testing out wisbar iphone themes on youtube here http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wisbar+iphone&search_type=&aq=f
Waouw ! WAD2 looks very promising !!!
Tks a lot ! (1 beer for u, bro )
Same as u : i don't understand too why this topic isn't hotter
I'll try to bring my modest contribution when i have some time...
Cheeeers !
Most of us who chose the hd had one specific thing in mind and that is not to be an apple sheep.
ps. all the programs that you want in any order you like is just one swipe away, if that is too much work for you I think you are better off with the real iphone
Ifonz run good on my Toshiba G900, 480x800 pixel, then I think it will run on HD too. I've to wait another 2 days to have my HD, when I'll have it, I'll test .
If you don't have framework 3.5 installed, try to install it first.
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I guess I am not an Apple sheep, but Iphone is a really unique piece of HW. I just don´t like its SW limitations. On my previous device I was very happy with iFonz. It looks cool and is very fast and responsive and you can customize it as well. Much better than Mobile Shell and others..
But I am looking forward to having new pointui on my HD. I hope they finish their project soon.
Did you try to keep TF3D, but you change the order of tabs, and put the progs tab in first ?
iPhone Similar Interface
Hello
You may want to try out a commercial software package called Winterface, it's gives a similar interface as found on the iPhone.
KaidM
Wait till Point UI v2 and then tell me if you want the iphones limited interface!
the ultimate device the HD + Point UI v2 = iphone killer!
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Wait till Point UI v2 and then tell me if you want the iphones limited interface!
the ultimate device the HD + Point UI v2 = iphone killer!
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where can i find this point ui for the hd (with wvga)
umexed said:
Wait till Point UI v2 and then tell me if you want the iphones limited interface!
the ultimate device the HD + Point UI v2 = iphone killer!
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You are completely right, I consider Point UI v2 the right compromise between iphone interface and TF3D. I hope it will be out soon becouse as you have sad, HD will be the real iphone killer
Decided to give the iphone interface a go with WAD2 and it works great. This is just the front page but all notifications work for texts, missed calls, VM, email etc. In addition the calendar works ont he front and the date and day changes right there on the front page. The weather temp also changes and im pretty sure I know how to make the sun change to the current weather conditions but the IPhone doesn't do that so i may not since i want it to be a perfect replica I see no reason why WAD2 cant recreate IPhone interface perfectly
Lugia said:
where can i find this point ui for the hd (with wvga)
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PointUi 1 came the first of january 2008, so i think PointUi 2 will come the first of January 2009
Video: http://www.pointui.com/
Lugia said:
where can i find this point ui for the hd (with wvga)
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check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464332
I owe both a Polaris and a Blackstone and, in my opinion, TouchCube is far better than TF3D. TF3D looks nice but let's face it... it eats up system resources, it's laggy, when browsing through tabs it's not very thumb friendly (you have to bend your thumb to the max), you can't customize the tabs position (it would help if they were placed on one side because it would be easier to scroll through the same number of items having at least 30% more room to place the tabs), the so called customization... is way too limited (you get to change the fonts, the tab order, the shortcuts... in the end you'll get the same layout), the multimedia section was divided with the unhappy default association of the video files with an application clearly meant for photos...
So... my question: can the TouchCube be ported on the Blackstone and, along with it the Polaris Audio Manager? Can the Album application be "broken" in two applications one handling the photos and the other the videos?
I was thinking just the other day "what happened to the cube?"
It was pretty cool. Think it would be good a replacement for the action screen thats floating about?
Try duttys ROM with new manila, TF3D is uber fast
Sallcho said:
Try duttys ROM with new manila, TF3D is uber fast
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and what about ergonomics?
So... I get it that no developer is interested in porting the Cube to Blackstone
I have never tried it, but how about the option "Cube" under HTC TouchFLO when using Advanced Config. How about changing that to Enabled, will that do the job?
I'll make it my next project
I'm currently finishing an animated today screen for this phone while docked but when I'm done that that I'll start work on a cube launcher that replaces the current Program's tab with a custom app that gives you a cube with multiple options for launching programs... icon view, rotate to list view, rotate to cover-flow view etc
Did you try the cube here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336234
Maybe you just have to adapt to wvga screen ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336234
I tried this one instead... installs ok but it's for qvga it starts and then it goes to the top-left corner. the animations work just fine, some of the links must be rebuilt... and that's about it. But... i mus admit it... i don't have the knowledge to port it to WVGA...
I know it won't be free, but what about something like SPB Mobile 3 due out at the end of March? Have a look at around 58 seconds in here:
http://www.wmexperts.com/update-spb-mobile-shell-3
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Just found a video showing it on a Touch HD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA&feature=related
Cookie999
I appreciate the work of the people at SPB. It seams they did a good job. But... I am not a phonecentric person and something like the cube suites me better. SPBM3 looks like it requires a lot of time to be customized and even when you think you got it you wake up with a fully texted today screen and a directions map to help you swipe through screens...
The HTC TouchCube might seam blunt compareing it to SPBM3 but this is what I like about it... an easy way to launch/hide, easy recognition of the page you're in... i can't explain it very well but for me... the TouchCube is more natural, more organized and a better interface than the windows start menu when it comes to basic tasks.
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPB Mobile 3 looks great... forget what I wrote before. No need to write what they have already written
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I know it won't be free, but what about something like SPB Mobile 3 due out at the end of March? Have a look at around 58 seconds in here:
http://www.wmexperts.com/update-spb-mobile-shell-3
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Just found a video showing it on a Touch HD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA&feature=related
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Dude! That looks freeking awesome and just think I neally bought an iPhone 3G
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nice i like it...
Cookie999 said:
I know it won't be free, but what about something like SPB Mobile 3 due out at the end of March? Have a look at around 58 seconds in here:
http://www.wmexperts.com/update-spb-mobile-shell-3
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Just found a video showing it on a Touch HD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA&feature=related
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looks great!!
it moves really good!
Please resize the cube for vga/wvga would love it!!
yea spb mobile shell 3.0 does look good buuuuuuttttttttttttt its not free cost almost $30 and to be honest like many of you have been saying, i do miss the cube app from the htc touch...that app was very cool an useful plus i loved how when you needed it you just swiped up an when you were done you swiped down an that was that... SO I TO HOPE THAT IT CAN BE RESIZED FOR VGA AND WVGA!!!!!
Mrferrari23
If only I could... I'd do it myself
If it was posible id like the touchcube too, it's more finger friendly imo and it's faster to use. Like said before, if I knew how to do it myself, I would..
Bell UI
Browsing the internet I found the Bell UI. Looks quite nice.
To all the chefs out there... is there a chance to port this to HD? 'Cause I'm kinda' giving up the idea of the Cube being ported to the HD...
Is it any good compared to TFL3D? Looks nice and possibly better than any other finger like interfaces!!
did a search but not too clear? any help
Go to http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/index.php - that is the official forum.
It is good and very customisable, if you have a little time and skill with photoshop etc.
To be fair, I think he's looking for some opinion from the community rather than the slightly biased view from the Lakeridge forums. Trouble is, an impartial view will be hard to come by. Lots of people on this site will tell you it's wonderful...with great conviction and some justification.
For what it's worth, I put it on my device a few weeks ago and it came back off pretty much straight away. It certainly is highly customisable - many of the sexier and more complex themes on this site are WAD themes - but customising isn't all that straightforward and that's what put me off. I didn't have the time or the inclination.
Some will love it and some will hate it, but my personal preference is for SPB Mobile Shell. I used TF3d in preference to SPBMS2.x (although I'm currently taking davideuck's excellent WM6.5 ROM for a spin) but will look very seriously at v3 which should be out later this month or early next. There are YouTube videos and a dedicated website kicking about if you search around.
have not tried wisebar advance desktop but wisebar advance does drag the performance of the device in my own observation.
I find that if you want to have better performance, touchflo, mobileshell or pointui offers that.
Agree that the configuration of WAD is no piece of cake, but I love it for...
...as many appointments on main screen as screen permits (and those appointments can also be way in the future)
...16 tabs on main screen and 16 more just a finger touch away (tabs can also be a URL, or macro)
...lots of prefab skins so I dont need to worry about Photoshop...
IMO,
Positive: WAD2 allows for much more customization of screens.
i.e. weather info, plugin imbedding, status info, screen button look, etc.
Negative: not as graphically advanced as TF3d. i.e. weather, mail, stock, etc. animations are much better in TF3d.
Also, it is still a little buggy. Random crashes and such. it seems that WAD2 needs some more fine tuning before it's ready for prime time.
In essence, if you're looking a more infomative overlay, quicker access to functions, and much more customization then WAD2 is fun to play with.
But, if your looking for a stable, graphically advanced, overlay, Tf3D is the way to go.
Personally, I use TF3D because I like the look, feel and responsiveness, especially with the great Roms cooked here. But, I miss WAD's plasticity.
Thanks guys, yeah im looking at SPB v. 3, just need to find a good ROM out there to use!!!
I want to create a rom that is just based around TF3D, i have tried so many times at creating my own, but my laptop just messes it all up (seriously have no idea why) it crashes and comes up with loads of errors.
I want to make one that only has the following programs:
Opera - any version compatible with tf3d
File Explorer
Office
Notes - no OneNote just notes
Audio booster
Windows Media
Album - Do we need pictures and video?
Camera - obviously
S2U2 - users can install the manila style theme
Youtube
We just need the pure basics no internet explorer or anything like that.
i will be more than welcome to help graphically as much as i can and im sure that other members would love to see this ROM.
Also none of that stupid windows with the start menu at the bottom....its crap! please post here or private message me and thank you for looking
come on people!
over 100 views n no takers
Im in!
There is so many out there but they all have their own bugs but nothing only for TF3D.
I would love to see it happen and am happy to help you out but i dont know much about the cooking process...
You may try the kicthen from lobsterdave, simple and logical (add only the packs you want to) otherwise seek after the lot of "clean" ROMS and use one of those.
Or any other kitchen. I'm a big fan of this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527935
foolproof, and everything explained. Instead of counting the reviews of your post, start cooking! it's simpler than you think.
Good luck!
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Or any other kitchen. I'm a big fan of this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527935
foolproof, and everything explained. Instead of counting the reviews of your post, start cooking! it's simpler than you think.
Good luck!
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i gotta problem with DEP on my vista laptop,it doesnt allow me to run the programs properly. also anybody know the thread that explains how to customize everything (welcome center and other bits)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549460
try this