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Spb Mobile Shell 2.1.3 is out!

and it works on the HD.
I disabled TouchFLO and run now Mobile Shell.

boba23 said:
Does it have a official 480x800 skin? Or is it still streched like the previous versions. Didn't look that good in my eyes ....
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Main screen uses additional space, the others are stretched.

Will this work with the existing skins? Anyone?

Stretched sucks...

jtcrusader said:
Will this work with the existing skins? Anyone?
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I don´t think so.
Anyone wants to show a screencap of the new mainscreen in 480x800?

Spb Mobile Shell v2.1.4
Version 2.1.4 (December 11, 2008):
* Fixed an issue with calendar on HTC Touch HD and Samsung Omnia

Thanks for the info.
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jtcrusader said:
Will this work with the existing skins? Anyone?
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I have tried 2.1.3 with skins from here. It works, but changes the look of SPB Mobile shell back to the 'old' layout which is kind of different and the graphics really don't look so good on the big screen, maybe on a X1 you can't tell it so clearly because the screen is smaller (with the same resolution that is). It's also buggy, some icons on certain skins don't show, sometimes the weather doesn't show correctly, stuff like that.
Looked at a number of skins and decided, that the default skin was by far the best...you might give it a try though. Now running 2.1.4 with the default skin and find it way more useful than Touchflo 3d.

alfa said:
Spb Mobile Shell v2.1.4
Version 2.1.4 (December 11, 2008):
* Fixed an issue with calendar on HTC Touch HD and Samsung Omnia
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and where to get ?
didnt find it at spb

at sbp under pocketpc
I love this software
it has great features and makes the HD or SEX1 wonderful and gives him a bit of iphone flair
hope they extend the functions until we dont need the winmo interface anymore
not as nice as touchflo but far more functions
it is worth a try and if happy a buy

It`s working great... I don`t really like the today screen it would have been great if it looked better...
It would be nice to run touchflo3d and with Spb Menu on the Today screen instead of the Programs button... best of both worlds... because with SPB i don`t really use the today screen as much as the first Calendar tab in its menu... which looks great...
It would be nice as a today screen... or maybe you can use it as such i don`t know. :|

dh-paule said:
and where to get ?
didnt find it at spb
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http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/?en

SPB Mobile Shell really sucks imho
they don't appreciate our skinning abilities, they don't release any technical documentation for customizing (api, calls an so on) and every release mess ALL layout settings so all our work in finding correct layout has to restart for any little release. It's simply frustrating, so i don't even release my theme (90% done for my xperia) 'cause I don't want encourage people to use spb product. They don't deserve us.
Even integration with THEIR products (spb phone suite, necessary for phone profiles) is simply RIDICOLOUS as you can't have a wifi switch on "home" screen, 1 year old request on spb forum and no response
PhoneWeaver is FAR better, and I can invoke menu (fully customizable with self-explainatory skins) with a hardware button using TouchFlo3d

Been using Mobile Shell on my HD for a few days now, and I've had to soft reset the device almost once a day during the test.
Applications keeps crashing and the device hangs.
I find the GUI far better than TouchFLO, but in its current state it is of no use for me.
-KJ

MS 2.1.4
This new build doesn't crash at all for me. I'm using original rom with my Touch HD and it runs perfectly. I would like to see some skins for for this software that would compliment our beautiful WVGA screens though.

And.. Will you share it with us ..?
Pandemoniumone said:
This new build doesn't crash at all for me. I'm using original rom with my Touch HD and it runs perfectly. I would like to see some skins for for this software that would compliment our beautiful WVGA screens though.
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enistgok said:
And.. Will you share it with us ..?
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You can get it from SPB, it's been out for some time now.
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/
I'm just waiting for some nice skins for the WVGA screen, I'm not much of an artist or graphics designer...wish I had it in me.

Pandemoniumone said:
You can get it from SPB, it's been out for some time now.
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/
I'm just waiting for some nice skins for the WVGA screen, I'm not much of an artist or graphics designer...wish I had it in me.
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can you post the files here please I cannot seem to find them

I definitely liked SPB Mobile Shell on my QVGA device. Tons of great skins have been developed. Just not too many available for WVGA yet though. Of course they're coming out with Mobile Shell 3.0 soon and PointUI 2.0 should be out shortly as well. I'll probably just wait to see how they do.

http://www.imarche.net/omnia/index.php for a nice set of skins for Mobile Shell

[REQ]TouchCube on HD?

I owe both a Polaris and a Blackstone and, in my opinion, TouchCube is far better than TF3D. TF3D looks nice but let's face it... it eats up system resources, it's laggy, when browsing through tabs it's not very thumb friendly (you have to bend your thumb to the max), you can't customize the tabs position (it would help if they were placed on one side because it would be easier to scroll through the same number of items having at least 30% more room to place the tabs), the so called customization... is way too limited (you get to change the fonts, the tab order, the shortcuts... in the end you'll get the same layout), the multimedia section was divided with the unhappy default association of the video files with an application clearly meant for photos...
So... my question: can the TouchCube be ported on the Blackstone and, along with it the Polaris Audio Manager? Can the Album application be "broken" in two applications one handling the photos and the other the videos?

I was thinking just the other day "what happened to the cube?"
It was pretty cool. Think it would be good a replacement for the action screen thats floating about?

Try duttys ROM with new manila, TF3D is uber fast

Sallcho said:
Try duttys ROM with new manila, TF3D is uber fast
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and what about ergonomics?

So... I get it that no developer is interested in porting the Cube to Blackstone

I have never tried it, but how about the option "Cube" under HTC TouchFLO when using Advanced Config. How about changing that to Enabled, will that do the job?

I'll make it my next project
I'm currently finishing an animated today screen for this phone while docked but when I'm done that that I'll start work on a cube launcher that replaces the current Program's tab with a custom app that gives you a cube with multiple options for launching programs... icon view, rotate to list view, rotate to cover-flow view etc

Did you try the cube here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336234
Maybe you just have to adapt to wvga screen ?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336234
I tried this one instead... installs ok but it's for qvga it starts and then it goes to the top-left corner. the animations work just fine, some of the links must be rebuilt... and that's about it. But... i mus admit it... i don't have the knowledge to port it to WVGA...

I know it won't be free, but what about something like SPB Mobile 3 due out at the end of March? Have a look at around 58 seconds in here:
http://www.wmexperts.com/update-spb-mobile-shell-3
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Just found a video showing it on a Touch HD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA&feature=related

Cookie999
I appreciate the work of the people at SPB. It seams they did a good job. But... I am not a phonecentric person and something like the cube suites me better. SPBM3 looks like it requires a lot of time to be customized and even when you think you got it you wake up with a fully texted today screen and a directions map to help you swipe through screens...
The HTC TouchCube might seam blunt compareing it to SPBM3 but this is what I like about it... an easy way to launch/hide, easy recognition of the page you're in... i can't explain it very well but for me... the TouchCube is more natural, more organized and a better interface than the windows start menu when it comes to basic tasks.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPB Mobile 3 looks great... forget what I wrote before. No need to write what they have already written

Cookie999 said:
I know it won't be free, but what about something like SPB Mobile 3 due out at the end of March? Have a look at around 58 seconds in here:
http://www.wmexperts.com/update-spb-mobile-shell-3
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Just found a video showing it on a Touch HD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA&feature=related
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Dude! That looks freeking awesome and just think I neally bought an iPhone 3G

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nice i like it...
Cookie999 said:
I know it won't be free, but what about something like SPB Mobile 3 due out at the end of March? Have a look at around 58 seconds in here:
http://www.wmexperts.com/update-spb-mobile-shell-3
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Just found a video showing it on a Touch HD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv8DDNE3lgA&feature=related
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looks great!!
it moves really good!

Please resize the cube for vga/wvga would love it!!
yea spb mobile shell 3.0 does look good buuuuuuttttttttttttt its not free cost almost $30 and to be honest like many of you have been saying, i do miss the cube app from the htc touch...that app was very cool an useful plus i loved how when you needed it you just swiped up an when you were done you swiped down an that was that... SO I TO HOPE THAT IT CAN BE RESIZED FOR VGA AND WVGA!!!!!

Mrferrari23
If only I could... I'd do it myself

If it was posible id like the touchcube too, it's more finger friendly imo and it's faster to use. Like said before, if I knew how to do it myself, I would..

Bell UI
Browsing the internet I found the Bell UI. Looks quite nice.
To all the chefs out there... is there a chance to port this to HD? 'Cause I'm kinda' giving up the idea of the Cube being ported to the HD...

Microsoft to Launch Windows Mobile 6.5 on May 11

More infos:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-to-Launch-Windows-Mobile-6-5-on-May-11-109719.shtml
br,
Chris

Any news about when HTC are planing to release 6.5 for our Diamonds?

cyron_at said:
More infos:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-to-Launch-Windows-Mobile-6-5-on-May-11-109719.shtml
br,
Chris
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Great news, thanks! I can't wait

anyone know whats in it that we dont already have??

sapiora said:
Any news about when HTC are planing to release 6.5 for our Diamonds?
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Never.

mike21pr said:
anyone know whats in it that we dont already have??
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well let's see... there's a honeycomb-styled start menu (i mean, how did i ever live without a HONEYCOMB start menu?)... and a today screen that's a sad attempt to compete with the iphone and TF3D... am i missing anything else?

The biggest improvement is that now, you can control your phone only with your finger, it's more "finger-friendly". No need to have a stylet.
Otherwise, it's only a "graphic" improvement I think...

racerx_ said:
well let's see... there's a honeycomb-styled start menu (i mean, how did i ever live without a HONEYCOMB start menu?)... and a today screen that's a sad attempt to compete with the iphone and TF3D... am i missing anything else?
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Actually I would say that usability has been greatly improved. It's not just a new start menu and a today screen. There are some very nice touches here and there like a much better menu interaction, drop-down lists are improved so that you no longer need to use the stylus, there's a new Internet Explorer which even though it's not as good as Opera it does have some things that might be useful for certain websites...
Oh, there's also the new widget system for small web-based applications (MSN Weather and MSN Finances are good examples) and the new Titanium home screen seems to be highly customizable with plugins that look beautiful and so far seem to work well.
I would say that the main change is that Windows Mobile no longer looks like an outdated PDA and looks more like a modern hi-tech phone without the need of TouchFlo 3D which never got to the deeper parts of the OS.

Anchelspain said:
Actually I would say that usability has been greatly improved. It's not just a new start menu and a today screen. There are some very nice touches here and there like a much better menu interaction, drop-down lists are improved so that you no longer need to use the stylus, there's a new Internet Explorer which even though it's not as good as Opera it does have some things that might be useful for certain websites...
Oh, there's also the new widget system for small web-based applications (MSN Weather and MSN Finances are good examples) and the new Titanium home screen seems to be highly customizable with plugins that look beautiful and so far seem to work well.
I would say that the main change is that Windows Mobile no longer looks like an outdated PDA and looks more like a modern hi-tech phone without the need of TouchFlo 3D which never got to the deeper parts of the OS.
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i guess it's a matter of preference. The main thing i see is that its designed to be much more finger-friendly. But personally the way they did the menus, i find quite annoying and a bit sluggish.. i manage quite well right now without my stylus actually.. In fact, although a bit small, i felt that the drop down menus in windows mobile are what gave it an edge as a business phone over say the iphone, etc. every time some menu takes over your entire screen it slows down the process of entering and selecting data
as far as not looking outdated? i don't know about that. I think looking at what HTC did with TF3D, although not perfect and the iphone interface, microsoft could have done a lot better for their first real facelift of windows mobile.. widgets? yeah but if i needed widgets i'd be using an omnia or a google phone

I tried WM6.5 for a few hours last weekend, hoping to embrace it.
I wasn't used to the home screen as it doesn't provide much information at first look. The menu enhancement is nice, but apparently HTC has it's own which seems to feel better.
The start menu is simply cluttered and feels sluggish. The scroll arrows don't look good either. Anyways.. my conclusion is that HTC seem to do a better job than MS. Perhaps WM7 is what they're spending their efforts in..

thanks cyron_at... yeah i read that yesterday somewhere as well that it's about to get released...
i think it's a great compliment to tf3d... tf3d aims at making the interface finger friendly - however you still find yourself taking out the stylus now and then (specially when behind the scenes in winmo!)... i think 6.5 further reduces the need for this... but its not "officially" coming to our diamonds, so let's c how it goes...

Officially speaking, WM 6.5 isn't supposed to be available on "older" devices (with respect to release date), but that may be subject changes.

racerx_ said:
well let's see... there's a honeycomb-styled start menu (i mean, how did i ever live without a HONEYCOMB start menu?)... and a today screen that's a sad attempt to compete with the iphone and TF3D... am i missing anything else?
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I think it has built-in kinetic scrolling so that 3rd party manufacturers (like HTC) no longer have to write their own implementation. I believe the new IE has built-in support for Flash as well.

racerx_ said:
i guess it's a matter of preference. The main thing i see is that its designed to be much more finger-friendly. But personally the way they did the menus, i find quite annoying and a bit sluggish.. i manage quite well right now without my stylus actually.. In fact, although a bit small, i felt that the drop down menus in windows mobile are what gave it an edge as a business phone over say the iphone, etc. every time some menu takes over your entire screen it slows down the process of entering and selecting data
as far as not looking outdated? i don't know about that. I think looking at what HTC did with TF3D, although not perfect and the iphone interface, microsoft could have done a lot better for their first real facelift of windows mobile.. widgets? yeah but if i needed widgets i'd be using an omnia or a google phone
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Totally agree.

MasK said:
.. my conclusion is that HTC seem to do a better job than MS. Perhaps WM7 is what they're spending their efforts in..
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Exactly. HTC has done wonders for revamping the old look and feel with winmo.
Interesting to say is that M$ took some ideas from HTC and implemented them in os(shouldn't they be the one to offer innovations?!).
I hope wm7 will be more finger friendly, but as the rumors say we will probably see one more wimmo 6.x iteration (6.7?) before the 7.
I'm really looking forward to see more android based phones and some more improvements of the os itself with a lot more soft(gps like igo for instance).
Resistive screens are really becoming outdated not only do they diminish the "touch" feel compared to capacitive screens but they are a ***** to use in the sunlight.
Cheers.

how's the keyboard in WM6.5, I can't find screenshot of it nor any special talk here about it, is there any keyboard in it at all
also, video call doesn't work yet, right?

cloudedhopes said:
thanks cyron_at... yeah i read that yesterday somewhere as well that it's about to get released...
i think it's a great compliment to tf3d... tf3d aims at making the interface finger friendly - however you still find yourself taking out the stylus now and then (specially when behind the scenes in winmo!)... i think 6.5 further reduces the need for this... but its not "officially" coming to our diamonds, so let's c how it goes...
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for me spb mobile shell 3.0 is very finger friendly an very customize able.

racerx_ said:
In fact, although a bit small, i felt that the drop down menus in windows mobile are what gave it an edge as a business phone over say the iphone, etc.
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Smartphones and PPCs are not business only any more.
If MS only focused on the business market WINMO would disappear, or atleast not develop any further. Phone manufactures are about selling handsets. If the general consumer (who buy more handsets than businesses) are not happy with an OS they will not by that phone.
Not every phone user is techsavy enough to flash updates from websites. They want updates sent to their device in a way that means they have little interaction and risk.
WINMO needs to develop to become a general consumer friendly OS whilst still pandering slightly to the business community. This is what I see happening in 6.5

Apologize for being coock
Windows Mobile 6.5 May Launch Not Likely
http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2009/04/windows_mobile_10.html

Windows Mobile 6.5 ...
... Is only a better version of Windows Mobile 6.1. They changed some graphics and the start menu. But they aren't able to make it like it should be. YOU'LL NEED A STYLET! look at the dropdown menus and the little buttons. How does microsoft thinkt people should use this little items without a stylet?
No sorry , I hope that Winodws Mobile 7 will be better!

SPB Mobile shell 5

News?
Thank you.

mec72 said:
News?
Thank you.
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you mean 3.5?
http://spb.com/products/mobileshell/?en

mec72 said:
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Thank you.
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They just announced it, can't post link but its on google.

bamso said:
They just announced it, can't post link but its on google.
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http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Board=news&Number=36008

mec72 said:
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Thank you.
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Look here: http://www.pdaclub.pl/index.php?opt...b-mobile-shell-50&catid=51:programy&Itemid=93

Here's the announcement: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=13129
Here's a video of it running on android: http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/mwc-video-spb-mobile-shell-50-on-android
And more news is probably coming tomorrow...

JUST WOW!!!

dublicat post(

Looks like useless, memory hungry eye candy to me.
I have version 3.5 (using this customization: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604146) at the moment and can say I have never used the 'carousel'.
SPB have been ignoring all the great ideas for widgets on their forum, a call for SPB Diary and Phone Suite to be made compatible for WM6.5 to concentrate on creating this?!
Oh well, down they go in a lot of people's opinions.
*sarcastic tone* well done SPB!

I can't wait...

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=13378
a video if it running on WM6, looks great, i just hope it isn't a resource hook or a battery drainer.

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http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=13378
a video if it running on WM6, looks great, i just hope it isn't a resource hook or a battery drainer.
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nah, it looks nothing new.

They stopped being creative along time ago.

It supports Stereoscopic output... I'd call that original.

With HTC Sense out there, SPB needed a home run with this release but all they hit is a bunt! Boring! Same old thing we have now. I don't have that "I must have it" feeling like I did before when I purchased SPB Mobile Shell for my phone. I do have that feeling for Sense however and unless SPB gets their uncreative heads out of their butts, this shell will die eventually (or live forever 'cause the user community is re-developing it for them with skins).

I like the look of sense but I dislike the way it access things and features on the phone, too many things built-in as default and makes my favourite 3rd party app hard/impossible to be integrated, and running Manila 2.5 on my Xperia gives me a lot of problem, it is slow and sluggish sometimes.
I now have SPB 3.5 with the look of sense(mobile theme), and all my frequently used app/features accessible in 3 pages. Works a lot better than Sense and Titanium.
I don't think SPB is dying, as people who like customization will always go for it, but TouchXperiance will probably pawn it when it is released, I dunno.

well it looks like they took a step up with the animations. lets not forget they also make there product to be integrated with some devices & it looks like the success that they created on windows mobile is driven to android & the rest.. So for the new user its gonna be a big thing like it was for us (windows mobile users) when they first released there shell but for me if i decide to run there shell its gotta be on a super light ROM since it looks like a memory hogger!

Well, it LOOKS pretty. Guess we'll have to wait to see how it performs.

any news about this new shell?
I am quite curious to test it on my Touch2 ...

What happened to version 4? The current version is 3.5.3. Why the jump to 5.0?
There is a demo of version 5 off Youtube, and I am not that impressed. The functionality is more important than the look. If it's only for the 3D feel, count me out! Besides, I don't think my device can handle it

[PRJ] Seven UI - Windows Phone 7 interface for WM6.x

Hi everyone,
it's been a long time since my last project here on xda, but here I come I'm starting a new project and at the beginning I'd like to say that it's a loooong way to finishing it. So please do not ask for eta, because I just can't predict when and if it's going to be finished and released.
My new project is a new UI for WM6.1, 6.6 and 6.5.x. I'm doing ti for VGA but hopefully it will be easy to get it working on WVGA.
Seven UI is based on the new Windows Phone 7 interface. I'm not going to copy it all, I'll try to get some things done better. I just want to keep its style. I know that there are many themes/skins for SPB MS or other interfaces, but I want to build this from scratch, which will be really hard since .netCF doesn't offer access to some system functions or even to the sms inbox!

sound's good...i really apprecciate all your works...great kamill

Another fantastic project for WP7 imitating!!!

Kamill said:
Hi everyone,
it's been a long time since my last project here on xda, but here I come I'm starting a new project and at the beginning I'd like to say that it's a loooong way to finishing it. So please do not ask for eta, because I just can't predict when and if it's going to be finished and released.
My new project is a new UI for WM6.1, 6.6 and 6.5.x. I'm doing ti for VGA but hopefully it will be easy to get it working on WVGA.
Seven UI is based on the new Windows Phone 7 interface. I'm not going to copy it all, I'll try to get some things done better. I just want to keep its style. I know that there are many themes/skins for SPB MS or other interfaces, but I want to build this from scratch, which will be really hard since .netCF doesn't offer access to some system functions or even to the sms inbox!
Below in the attachments I've posted 2 screenshots. One of the home screen and the other of the lockscreen. These are just designs made in VS2008.
I'll post some more details later.
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Looks promising...
I had a question for you... have you tried the sub-pixel font rendering used in WP7 into our current mobiles?
I have created a few fonts for Manila but the Zegoe/Segoe Light do not look good because of this. Do you think you can help out on this?

Thanks guys, I really hope to finish this project!
NNagendran, I'm using Segoe WP - it's quite different than Segoe, imo much nicer and it looks good on the screen. Afaik you can't add antialiasing to the system fonts, you just have to use another font. Sometimes enlarging the text makes it look better.

wow! this is awesome, thanks Kamill

Really looking forward to this! Do you think it can be done without being too slow on the older devices like blackstone or diamond etc.?

I'm testing it on my Diamond, so I'll try to keep it as fast as possible.

wooow cool

considering you and ElCondor's pedigree, re GTX i'm confident this will be awesome
thanks so much!

where is the download for this?

There's no download yet, it's in really early stages of development.

included this on my RSS
more power to you!

My 2 Cents
Looks nice, Looking forward to it.
Cheers
BR

Great work,I love WP7's style

thats kewll

I've decided to divide the project into few steps. The first one is the Messaging app. I may release it as a standalone app, but it's still too early to say when this is going to happen.
Thanks to mapidotnet I'm already able to read all the inbox, so that's a big step forward and thanks to codeproject.com I got the kinetic scrolling list working (smooth!).
Below there's a small preview of how it looks like.

Here's a small video preview of the Messaging app, just to show how you can navigate it. All the animations are really smooth and the transitions are fast (tested on Touch Diamond)

SO we do not need colour screen Only black and white.
It looks nice, keep good work

Kamill said:
Here's a small video preview of the Messaging app, just to show how you can navigate it. All the animations are really smooth and the transitions are fast (tested on Touch Diamond)
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Extraordinary!! I look forward to try this app out!! and of course your user interface!!
will this app be able to run on a WVGA device??
thank you for your effort...
a download link in a PM would be eagerly appreciated!!
greets!