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Hi all,
Just upgrading to new Imate ROM. Now it seems that Universal has push email can anyone recommend an Exchange SP2 direct push email provider for consumer market? Many thanks for taking the time to read.
Tom C (UK) :lol:
The onlyone I know for the moment is 4smartphone.net - if you find any better (means cheaper), let me know!
Some report are saying 4smartphone.net takes 30 seconds to push an email to your device, rather than 5 seconds or less that others are getting via their own exchange servers.
Its worth asking these website exchange account providers what frequency they run the push 'heartbeat' at - you might end up with a big bill if they haven't set the Exchange/firewall to a reasonable rate.
Device SMS Address
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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If you're using the aku2 rom then you don't need an sms address. The MSFP/Direct Push works via http not sms. Waaaaaay better!
Settings
I think it is that version. I'm using the new ROM version 1.30.68 with Radio version 1.09.00. I can see the push mail icon in Comm Manager, but it's greyed out, so I'm not sure where to go from here. The 4smartphone support pages are not exactly informative.
Can anyone point me to a website about setting this up? My searches are not getting me far.
Thanks.
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jdee246 said:
rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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If you're using the aku2 rom then you don't need an sms address. The MSFP/Direct Push works via http not sms. Waaaaaay better!
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Is the AKU2 ROM available?
Where?
Thanks
Steve
Its a test aku2 universal rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42743
Got it working
Just need to ignore the instructions on the 4smartphone web page about SMS Device.
From the moment of clicking send on my Desktop to the email arriving in my device inbox the time taken is about 25 secs, which includes gmail forwarding it to the 4smartphone address.
4smartPhone Help!!
Glad to hear that you got the SMS problem sorted which help me out too. I can now sync with contacts but what do I do for the email. Do I have to set an account up on WM5 which I have done but there is no push coming through I have to manually send and receive. Any help much welcome. Thanks
You need to set it up using active sync in WM5. You will need to add a server (secure.4smartphone.net) then your username, password and domain (4smartphone). It will then sync using the GPRS connection.
I've got Outlook desktop, Outlook Web Access (with smartphone) and Outlook on WM5 all synchronizing nicely. My only problem is that I have three pop email account on Outlook desktop, but 4smartphone only seems to work with one.
And just to add the obvious, you need to have email being forward to the address that you got @smartphone.com
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rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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4Smartphone.net are US based, where email to SMS is very common. It took the Americans about three years to wake up to the fact that everyone else in the world has to pay for SMS messages to be sent - hence the new push technology from Microsoft.
What they are referring to is a feature known as AUTD (always up to date) which is how Exchange used to do push. A specially created SMS text message would be sent to your phone which told your device that something had changed, and it would then do a sync.
I am told that it worked very well - it is just unfortunate that for everyone outside of the USA the feature would cost many thousands to run for each single user.
Simon.
4smartPhone Help!!
Thanks for your quick reply. I have forwarding set up and all the correct settings for Active Syn in WM5, UserName, Password, Domain and Save password. Under the Options in ActiveSync there now appears and Exchange Server with the following selected Contacts, Calendar, E-Mail, Tasks.
I'm still not sure though what to do with the email all the above are syncing via 3g. In the Messages section do I have to create a new account and if so what are the correct setting for this?
Thanks again for the help and suggestions.
Tom C.
When it syncs with the Exchange server it automatically goes into the Outlook email inbox on your device. If you've previously been synchronizing with the desktop it wipes out those emails, which is why I'm trying the Pro version of 4smartphone and synchronising all three.
Have you checked if test emails you are sending are reaching the 4smartphone email address? You can do that by logging into the web version of Outlook via the link on their website.
Also the push email icon in Com Manager should now be working and it will say Microsoft DirectPush at the top.
That may not be much help, but I am also completely new to this.
4smartPhone
Once again thanks for the help. Just about got it sorted as I read your reply. The missing link for me is that the you don't have to sent up a seperate email account I was looking for server addresses extra but all those go under ActiveSync. Getting mails fine now but not too sure yet about sending them. Are yours sending fine or is there a delay?
Thanks again, you are still once step ahead of me
I've got Push email working with mail2web.com and have a few questions:
I've gota couple of email addresses that won't forward to my mail2web email account and I don't really want to use mail2web's harvester as that only checks once every hour, so I was wondering whether it's possible to set Outlook on my PC to synce with my mail2web account so that my PC will download emails from my POP accounts, then upload them to my mail2web server, which then pushes the emails to my phone?
Or is there a simpler way to do it?
Also, when I reply to an email that's been pushed the reply address is always my mail2web email address, which is a pain as it confuses people and gets rejected by my email groups. How can I change the default address that my replies go from, or even just change them on each email as I reply?
I'm sure I'll have more questions soon.! Cheers.
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Or is there a simpler way to do it?
Also, when I reply to an email that's been pushed the reply address is always my mail2web email address, which is a pain as it confuses people and gets rejected by my email groups. How can I change the default address that my replies go from, or even just change them on each email as I reply?
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Yup, use 4smartphones.net.
IT'S FOUR QUID A MONTH!
HI
i m using tmobie mda (usa) with the data plan and with the i can configure my pop3 email account on my phone and make to get the emails automaticaly after certain time
so then why do we need exchange server for
i mean i can be wrong too but if i m wrong can someone tell me the right thing
Thanks
I recommend Mail2Web, the simple setting and most important it is FREE.
hey guys,
so this gmail implementing free imap has really caused some stir evidently.
my question is this. what should i use? which one's better?
right now what happens is my gmail account forwards all email to my exchange server, hosted on my home PC. my phone then syncs with exchange using push, and more often than not i get email on my phone before it arrives on my desktop (which downloads mail from gmail using POP).
i use thunderbird on my laptop, and only access email from this one client. my phone uses exhange, as i mentioned, so its not really linked. however i like keeping things sorted in folders on my thunderbird client.
any tips? should i just switch everything over to imap or what?
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hey guys,
right now what happens is my gmail account forwards all email to my exchange server, hosted on my home PC.
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How you managed to make exchasnge server runs on your home PC ? It is nice to try it myself please..
hbahaie said:
How you managed to make exchasnge server runs on your home PC ? It is nice to try it myself please..
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lol hard work installed win2003, then exchange, set it all up, have an external IP, set up certificates for security, and voila!
chamelion said:
lol hard work installed win2003, then exchange, set it all up, have an external IP, set up certificates for security, and voila!
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thanks a lot, the problem is i have dynamic IP, will try to have a static one or use an IP forwarding service, trhank u again for your prompt reply.
hbahaie said:
thanks a lot, the problem is i have dynamic IP, will try to have a static one or use an IP forwarding service, trhank u again for your prompt reply.
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dyndns
solves all your dynamic IP issues!
If an Exchange server is too hard to install, you can try Kerio Mailserver..
Its very easy to configure..and it also works with pushmail..
There is one small difference between IMAP IDLE, and Exchange with PushMail - the price. IMAP IDLE was invented long time ago and always was free (but not available on free accounts and this is a new thing), and then it was "reinvented" by Blackberry and again by Microsoft. And now you can have:
1. Blackberry for monthly fee and total control od the company over your mails
2. PushMail with expansive Windows Server and Exchange + a lot of free problems
3. Totally free IMAP IDLE on your home linux server or even cheaper with gmail.
For me choice is easy
Mail2web is an online exchange server (2003) for free !
So the two alternative are for me:
mail2web: online exchange server, free, sync contact calendar tasks
vs
gmail: imap (i can't use it yet)
But, wich is better? I need only mail asap on my Hermes with minimum data transfer cost.
Any mean?
As far as I know IMAP doesn't sync contacts, calendar or tasks.....I'm going to stick with gmail-->mail2web-->phone
Edvard_Greig said:
As far as I know IMAP doesn't sync contacts, calendar or tasks.....I'm going to stick with gmail-->mail2web-->phone
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I do it same now. But gmail imap would be maybe cheaper... And I never use my mail2web account to write mail. If I receive a mail on gmail than I would like to answer with gmail acc instead of mail2web...
chamelion said:
dyndns
solves all your dynamic IP issues!
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Apart from the fact that almost every mail server blocks Dynamic IP ranges, so you wont be able to send any mail..... Been there done that! lol
Wish there was a way round it because i cant get a Static
imap idle ftw !
Hi
I'm currently running a mail server on a dedicated box (host @ datacenter 30€/month) under linux with courrier-imap. There is a way to implement IMAP IDLE function, that is almost the same than pushing emails.
I actualy tested it without FAM (File Alteration Monitor). Fam allow you to have a realtime email like blackberry. I don't need it, the basic IMAP_ENHANCEDIDLE do a check every minutes and update if there is a mail.
I tested this feature through telnet and it worked lovely.
Now, in order to be able to use this feature over your windows mobile, you have the choice between to softwares.
The first is vgsmail http://www.vgsmail.com/ppc/ (free trial)
This one will just enable the IMAP IDLE feature on your pocket outlook (seems to be the more elegant way to implement it)
The second is WIS Flexmail 2007 (search at google ) (free trial)
This one is a new client (i don't like to change my use personnaly)
The major problem of the both solutions is that you have to pay for it.
Does anyone can do a patch for pocket outlook to implement imap idle fonction on it ?
Regards.
lucky bastards ,
i still cannot use that feature!!!!!!!!
GorTen said:
I do it same now. But gmail imap would be maybe cheaper... And I never use my mail2web account to write mail. If I receive a mail on gmail than I would like to answer with gmail acc instead of mail2web...
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For (from memory) 80cents US a month mail2web allows you to set up a 'permanent from address' so it appears that the mail is coming from gmail or whereever!
Works a treat
mfubib said:
For (from memory) 80cents US a month mail2web allows you to set up a 'permanent from address' so it appears that the mail is coming from gmail or whereever!
Works a treat
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Where is this option? I use mail2web live...
Just sign up for a mail2web LIVE account...
https://services.mail2web.com/signup/mail2weblive/mail2webLive_01.asp
jaso2005 said:
Apart from the fact that almost every mail server blocks Dynamic IP ranges, so you wont be able to send any mail..... Been there done that! lol
Wish there was a way round it because i cant get a Static
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don't use my exchange server for SMTP, only for PUSH. SMTP i've set up exchange to use gmail's smtp server, which is perfect. means that every email i send from my phone is automatically put into my sent mail box in my gmail account.
... and of course it's not blocked. best of all worlds
After reading through this thread i think the answer for me is simple - stick with my exchange service. didn't pay a cent for it (100% legal through my school's license too!) and it works perfectly. so why not just keep it going
While setting up Win2k3 + Exchange 2k3 w/ SP2 isn't too bad if you know what you're doing, a lot of people don't have resources to do that.
I recommend Mail2web as well. Great service! I've been using it for probably ~1.5 years now with Push email on my phone. Pretty much ever since Push came out for WM, I've been using mail2web with it.
If you want push Gmail, what I did was set up a rule on my gmail account to forward ALL email to my mail2web account, then archive it.
So now someone just emails my gmail and it gets pushed to my phone. nice and easy.
chamelion said:
don't use my exchange server for SMTP, only for PUSH. SMTP i've set up exchange to use gmail's smtp server, which is perfect. means that every email i send from my phone is automatically put into my sent mail box in my gmail account.
... and of course it's not blocked. best of all worlds
After reading through this thread i think the answer for me is simple - stick with my exchange service. didn't pay a cent for it (100% legal through my school's license too!) and it works perfectly. so why not just keep it going
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Ahhh using the SMTP server in Smart Hosts?
GldRush98 said:
While setting up Win2k3 + Exchange 2k3 w/ SP2 isn't too bad if you know what you're doing, a lot of people don't have resources to do that.
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yes very very true. i took days to set it up, literally. tweak here, fix there, research here, implement there etc etc. But i guess it's different for me who's a complete computer geek and found the challange more exciting than actually solving it at the end
jaso2005 said:
Ahhh using the SMTP server in Smart Hosts?
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yep! i thought that was a great touch
Hi,
Does anyone know if WP7 will have IMAP IDLE for push email support with non-ActiveSync accounts?
Thanks.
So now that people are getting their devices, has anyone tested Push email with an IMAP account?
Google and windows live support activesync. Ehy do you need battery-killing IMAP?
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N8ter said:
Google and windows live support activesync. Ehy do you need battery-killing IMAP?
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Riiiiight. Because Gmail and an Exchange server are the only email systems in the world that anyone would ever possibly want to use or need to use.
DuoM said:
Riiiiight. Because Gmail and an Exchange server are the only email systems in the world that anyone would ever possibly want to use or need to use.
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Hm, yes.
Or, you know, you still use Aol.
/sarcasm
DuoM said:
Riiiiight. Because Gmail and an Exchange server are the only email systems in the world that anyone would ever possibly want to use or need to use.
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That was a questiom for a reason. Don't troll me...
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N8ter said:
Google and windows live support activesync. Ehy do you need battery-killing IMAP?
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Since you're smartassing, in what way does IMAP kill batteries? Pretty please?
N8ter said:
That was a questiom for a reason. *Don't troll me...
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I'm sorry but your reply just reads as a sarcastic comment and that's how I saw it.
I have a number of email accounts that I have to manage and a number of identities on some of the accounts.
I use:
Exchange
Hotmail
Yahoo
Gmail
IMAP
There are several Gmail and IMAP accounts, multiple identities on the IMAP and Yahoo accounts, and multiple domains on the IMAP accounts.
These cover work and personal accounts.
One problem is that I need to use different identities when replying to certain emails, for example [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], etc and when an email is sent from [email protected] it needs to come from [email protected] and not "From: [email protected] Sent on Behalf of [email protected]".
Similarly if I send an email from [email protected]omeplace.com it has to come from [email protected] and not "From: [email protected] on Behalf of [email protected]".
I can do this with IMAP but I don't know how to do it with any of the ActiveSync accounts listed. I can change the From address on Exchange but I would have to be able to switch it on the server each time I wanted to send from a different address and that means sitting at a desktop making config changes, which defeats the purpose of mobile email.
There is one other issue In WP7 it is possible to have a number of accounts using ActiveSync. I could setup multiple Exchange, Gmail or Hotmail accounts with my most used domains and identities however this would cause a lot more drain on the battery than having a single IMAP account that allows me to have multiple identities and domains for sending email.
On Windows Mobile, to reduce the amount of polling I have tried services like Momail and Seven to try and get the kind of low overhead service that I get on my Blackberry but in the end I always end up disabling Momail and removing the Seven package
It may be possible to get rid of the Yahoo account over time (they have IMAP but without the IDLE) but the others would have to remain for various reasons and getting rid of Yahoo would mean moving several identities onto the main IMAP server, which wouldn't be a problem as long as there was a way to use those identities.
I'd love to be able to have it all going to one ActiveSync account but I don't think that's possible at the moment.
So, back to my original question.
Tom Servo said:
Since you're smartassing, in what way does IMAP kill batteries? Pretty please?
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IMAP polls way more than push protocols, even with IDLE and it results in factorably more battery usage.
Use a packet analyzer and compare IMAP to activesync. Get back to me with your results. Theres a reason google implemented activesync and microsoft used deltasync over imap and then implemented activesync for windows live...
Im not here to educate you. Youre more than capable.
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Tom Servo said:
Since you're smartassing, in what way does IMAP kill batteries? Pretty please?
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I think he was genuinely asking a question with an observation he's made thrown in...
Why are people so >:O on the wp7 forums.... o.o
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Anyone know of a way to sync a government email account directly to the EVO...I set up a separate gmail where it gets forwarded to but figured this has to be possible somehow... the managers and higher ups have theirs synced with a blackberry....
Do you have OWA access?
What that means is let's say you're at my house and you want to check your email from your job, can you go to my computer and go to a special website to access your work email?
Do you have to connect through VPN (Virtual Private Network)?
If the answer is YES to the first question then you can set it up for your phone through Exchange. Now you wouldn't be able to set it up if your employer has a Blackberry Server because that would mean you can only do it via a BB or WM device with Blackberry Connect software. If your employer uses an Exchange server you can have them help you set it up. You have to verify that it's ok for you to have your email going through your phone because many employers have strict policies regarding access levels of employees.
There is a website I can go to when I'm on a network computer to access the email... I've tried Exchange and got nothing
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Ok when you say "networked computer" are you talking about your work intranet or any computer that has web access.
If the answer is the second one you want to basically find out the server address. You can view your server address by going into Microsoft Outlook (if you use that at work) and going into Tools-Account Settings-Clicking on the account and hitting Change. If you can't find it in there you can have a fellow BB user log into their BIS Blackberry login and use the server address that they have configured online if they have their email setup as IMAP or POP. If they are on AT&T they can go to: bis.na.blackberry.com but every carrier has their own website.
You just just mirror the incoming server address (as long as you guys are on the same server) and set it up through your phone.
Put in your Email & Password. The domain is usually your work email address (without the slashes and symbols) and the server would be that server address you need to find. You also want to check if your server requires SSL or not.
extnct1 said:
Anyone know of a way to sync a government email account directly to the EVO...I set up a separate gmail where it gets forwarded to but figured this has to be possible somehow... the managers and higher ups have theirs synced with a blackberry....
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so wer u able to do it?
extnct1 said:
Anyone know of a way to sync a government email account directly to the EVO...I set up a separate gmail where it gets forwarded to but figured this has to be possible somehow... the managers and higher ups have theirs synced with a blackberry....
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extnct1 said:
There is a website I can go to when I'm on a network computer to access the email... I've tried Exchange and got nothing
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As a fellow government employee, if you want to keep you job, stop posting this now. Blackberries are secure and have a special server connection, you cannot sync via mobile with any other phone in most gov departments. If you do one of these workarounds and get caught in a post-wikileaks environment good luck to ya...
Call up the IT admins and just ask them what the ActiveSync settings are. Ta-da!
ccicchitelli said:
As a fellow government employee, if you want to keep you job, stop posting this now. Blackberries are secure and have a special server connection, you cannot sync via mobile with any other phone in most gov departments. If you do one of these workarounds and get caught in a post-wikileaks environment good luck to ya...
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I honestly doubt an employee getting emails to his phone that there's a Christmas party on Tuesday with a Secret Santa event is very Wikileaks-worthy. Quit being so over-reactive like Lieberman. If he was actually doing anything secure, he'd know better, and would have a Blackberry.
drmacinyasha said:
Call up the IT admins and just ask them what the ActiveSync settings are. Ta-da!
I honestly doubt an employee getting emails to his phone that there's a Christmas party on Tuesday with a Secret Santa event is very Wikileaks-worthy. Quit being so over-reactive like Lieberman. If he was actually doing anything secure, he'd know better, and would have a Blackberry.
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Activesync is usually disabled. Somebody got fired for improper thumbdrive usage last week. The rule has been on the book for a while, ignored until now. We were all given an extra warning after that at my location. Believe me I have nothing personal in this.
As much as I try I seem to be failing miserably. Tried by just opening Native email app and by going to home, settings, Accounts & Sync, Add Account, Exchange ActiveSync and am trying:
email & password, Next.
Domain left blank
username = email addy
password,
server = m.hotmail.com
both SSL boxes ticked,
but I keep getting:
Setup could not finish
Cannot connect to server.
Im going out of my mind now!
Actually a friend of mine was trying that with his Arc but no success.. seems working fine with POP3 for some reason ... wish I could help
I am having the same problem...
That's interesting, has anybody actually had any success connecting to any exchange activesync server using the arc? I only have access to hotmail's exchange, but this works fine on touchdown, just not the native app...
ronniecross said:
That's interesting, has anybody actually had any success connecting to any exchange activesync server using the arc? I only have access to hotmail's exchange, but this works fine on touchdown, just not the native app...
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I'm connected to my University's exchange server (hosted on the Hotmail cloud) and it works fine. Make sure to use your full email address for your username.
I am also having the same problem. Strange.
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Was able to set up hotmail at the first try.
as for Exchange, I don't know - because I don't use it.
I have just tweeted se. Will have to see what they come back with.
Just set up a hotmail account too. Works without a hitch.
I want to set hotmail up with PUSH email... not PULL(POP3) which way I can set it up...
I use enhanced email apply and exchange (push) and footprint set up fine.
Wish it had more ram or a way to permanently kill tasks until required.
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I'm using the default mail client to connect to my corporate exchange server via activesync. No problems at all. Exchange Server 2003 though. Don't have 2007 or higher to test on.
SE-Naz said:
I want to set hotmail up with PUSH email... not PULL(POP3) which way I can set it up...
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I don't think Hotmail supports that. Unless you know of some plan where MS charges you money.
Rashkae said:
I don't think Hotmail supports that. Unless you know of some plan where MS charges you money.
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It does. Microsoft started supporting it a little while ago. Only seems to work with mobile phones atm, ie android, apple etc. It doesnt seem to work with outlook without that hotmail connector.
This is what I received back from SE earlier this morning.
'@Gavilaaar To set this up, you would need to contact Hotmail to obtain the correct server settings you require.'
Anyone wanna laugh with me???
Is that possible to sync Hotmail Calendar with Arc?
Gavilaaar said:
This is what I received back from SE earlier this morning.
'@Gavilaaar To set this up, you would need to contact Hotmail to obtain the correct server settings you require.'
Anyone wanna laugh with me???
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Why? They're right... It's not SE's job to set you up with Hotmail.
Did you look elsewhere online?
Microsoft adds Hotmail ActiveSync support for iPad, iPhone but not yet Android
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft...port-for-ipad-iphone-but-not-yet-android/7251
So AFAIK it's not yet officially supported by MS, but you can give it a shot.
My school email server runs on the hotmail cloud (I can access it via hotmail.com) and it works.
But basic hotmail doesn't.
FYI... A quick google search found many threads recommending "better mail client" (free on the market) for this task. Seems to work.
This too:
http://www.thesearethedroids.com/20...mail-mail-calendar-and-contacts-with-android/
Note the "\"
Rashkae said:
Why? They're right... It's not SE's job to set you up with Hotmail.
Did you look elsewhere online?
Microsoft adds Hotmail ActiveSync support for iPad, iPhone but not yet Android
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft...port-for-ipad-iphone-but-not-yet-android/7251
So AFAIK it's not yet officially supported by MS, but you can give it a shot.
My school email server runs on the hotmail cloud (I can access it via hotmail.com) and it works.
But basic hotmail doesn't.
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To be fair, I did have a major bounce around the web after I tweeted SE and found the same information as you.
What I was asking them was why hotmail wasn't working with the stock email client but working with others. And that was the reply.