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Electrostatic vs. Adhesive Screen Protectors

Hello All,
I know that I want a PET or other glass-like screen protector. Generally speaking, I never used screen protectors because they never really held up all that well and on top of that they never had the feel or look of the real thing. Now I have a scratch on my screen that is not normally visible, but I know its there.
I have run into a debacle because I know that while I am good at putting on screen protectors, I am no expert and the PET ones are harder to get perfect than the rubbery ones (which I now despise). So, recently I have seen that there are some PET/Silicone/ Electrostaic Hybrid screen protetctors and then there are still the PET with Adhesive.
Does anyone have experience with the electrostatic type and how good are they at staying on and bubbles?

I have no idea what is PET, or the different types. However, if you are talking about the one I got:
http://www.handhelditems.com/crystal-clear-screen-protector-p-135710.html
my experience is that this has great clarity, can get bubbles during applications, and they rarely come off by itself. On the many devices I've used this type of protector on, only one came off. It started in one corner, and over the course of a month with gradual lint build up the screen protector eventually got ruined. I could've washed it and reapplied for that month, but I had a spare so I was lazy. You can reapply the protectors as needed to get the application right. The bubbles that occur aren't the same as the rubbery kind. Air bubbles can easily be pushed out after application. The problem is dust that prevent the protector from adhering to screen, causing a little bubble. If the dust is really small, the bubble goes away over a day. Or, like me, you can live with it. You try getting something the size of an iPad dust free.

Bought Electrostatic - LOVE THESE!
Ok, as a preface I have owned and used screen protectors before.
I had an iPhone before the EVO and used the Griffin Ultraclear hard Protetctors ad the PowerSupportUSA products of every variety on my previous iPod products (iPod Mini 1G, 4G, Nano 1G, 5G, Shuffle 1G, Touch, iPhone) not to mention an invisible shield one or two. I gave up on the films towards the end of my Touch ownership. They always felt horrible and I could never get one absolutely perfect (didn't help that they usually were not perfectly cut).
For the Evo, I tried the InvisibleShield the first day because I remembered just how well the InvisibileShield had held up on my 5G. Well I think that they have changed the formula, or rather that 3M has since then because the smooth feel and smooth look of the original are most definitely gone. The new variety is rubbery (even after days of use) and is not cut well enough to be a perfect fit (it never covered edge to edge). So i skipped it. Well it seems that with this large of a glass screen, you are much more liable to getting scratches (versus using and unprotetcted iPhone/Touch screen) and I got a few ultra hairline ones that are barely if ever visible to the naked eye and just knowing that they are there bothered me. So I needed to think of getting a screen protector.
Seeing as how air moves and its nearly impossible to get a screen protectors on without any bit of dust, I decided on getting the electrostatic variety so that I could rinse if it came off or needed to be reapplied.
I bought These: Electrostatic Screen Protector - Clear Hard
- Hard variety (PET)
- Very Clear
- Silicone Layer (helps the scratches and dents heal themselves and give sturdiness to the PET)
- Electrostatic layer (holds the screen protector onto the phone)
Six pack delivered for $4? I could do much worse.
Well as it turns out, they are PERFECTLY cut and cover every inch of screen and no more. It went on smooth as butter and I got no bubbles or dust or fingerprints or anything (used a credit card to smooth it down). These were by far the easiest I have had. Not only that, but the electrostatic holds on just as strong as the sticky variety and will not get the gunk on the sides sticking to it! I have taken my TPU case on and off a bunch and had no lift whatsoever. As a bonus, THEY SHOW FINGERPRINTS MUCH LESS THAN THE GLASS SCREEN DOES!
So at $0.65 each, they are killer and having a few backups is nice as well as giving one to a friend.
Cheers!

Thanks for that post. I'm expecting my EVOs (I ordered 2) in within the next week. I've been trying hard to find cases and screen protectors without much luck, but I'm going to go ahead and order those screen protectors you mentioned since you recommend them.

Yep i ordered the same ones and love them. i have loved these from the start. they are quite easy to put on and stay on well.

Scotch tape is your friend in getting screen protectors on without a bit of dust

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Hello All,
I know that I want a PET or other glass-like screen protector. Generally speaking, I never used screen protectors because they never really held up all that well and on top of that they never had the feel or look of the real thing. Now I have a scratch on my screen that is not normally visible, but I know its there.
I have run into a debacle because I know that while I am good at putting on screen protectors, I am no expert and the PET ones are harder to get perfect than the rubbery ones (which I now despise). So, recently I have seen that there are some PET/Silicone/ Electrostaic Hybrid screen protetctors and then there are still the PET with Adhesive.
Does anyone have experience with the electrostatic type and how good are they at staying on and bubbles?
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I have a steinheil ultra crystal protector on my EVO, and its static. As long as you make sure there is no debris under it, it will stay on for a long time with no lifting. I have shown my phone to quite a few people, and not one of them can tell I have a screen protector on it. Even when I point it out to them, they still cant see it. It's very thin and I applied it perfectly so their a no bubbles. Took me about 30 minutes to get it perfect. If you use a piece of scotch tape to pick up debris under it, that works pretty good. This biggest thing is to make sure your edges are perfectly clean. Even the slightest bit of debris under one of the edges of the screen protector, and it wont be long before it starts peeling. I'm very satisfied with my steinheil. Going on 5 weeks now and it looks flawless. Id take a picture but you wouldnt be able to see it anyways. I thought it was a scam spending $13 on a screen protector! I used to order them from china for 50 cents. well, never doing that again! I've only ever used 1 adhesive type screen protector, and it was terrible. the clarity was awful.

OneStepAhead said:
I have a steinheil ultra crystal protector on my EVO, and its static. As long as you make sure there is no debris under it, it will stay on for a long time with no lifting. I have shown my phone to quite a few people, and not one of them can tell I have a screen protector on it. Even when I point it out to them, they still cant see it. It's very thin and I applied it perfectly so their a no bubbles. Took me about 30 minutes to get it perfect. If you use a piece of scotch tape to pick up debris under it, that works pretty good. This biggest thing is to make sure your edges are perfectly clean. Even the slightest bit of debris under one of the edges of the screen protector, and it wont be long before it starts peeling. I'm very satisfied with my steinheil. Going on 5 weeks now and it looks flawless. Id take a picture but you wouldnt be able to see it anyways. I thought it was a scam spending $13 on a screen protector! I used to order them from china for 50 cents. well, never doing that again! I've only ever used 1 adhesive type screen protector, and it was terrible. the clarity was awful.
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Have not seen these yet. where did you get yours and do you know if they offer an anti-glare

xlrdxrevengex said:
Have not seen these yet. where did you get yours and do you know if they offer an anti-glare
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Their anti-fingerprint screen protector is also anti-glare per the product description on their website.
http://www.sgpstore.com/product_info.php/cPath/23_33/products_id/1463

remedy22 said:
Their anti-fingerprint screen protector is also anti-glare per the product description on their website.
http://www.sgpstore.com/product_info.php/cPath/23_33/products_id/1463
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thanks for the link. Can anyone find this brand cheaper

xlrdxrevengex said:
thanks for the link. Can anyone find this brand cheaper
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I don't think so.
But these are $13 well spent. Believe me.
~fb

Best Screen Protectors for MT4G

So what do people recommend as the best screen protectors to choose from for the MT4G?
I know everyone has their own opinions on them, but I'm hoping people can post their pros/cons and we can help us all narrow down the choice to a few.
Thanks!

the phantom skinz screen protector! pros: clear, nice feel, covers the whole front. cons: none if installed correctly.

I like the Reallook one. Clear, durable and feels like the glass.

I had the realook and phantom skinz. I settled on phantom skinz. I have the full body matte, plus clear phantom skinz. (Don't install the matte screen protector from PS).
Realook is very good with clear BUT the only thing that sucks is that you get ALOT of oils/fingerprints, etc on it. Easy install and easy clean with soap/water.
Phantom skinz gets oil on the screen too, but not as much. Screen surface is alittle "gummy". (Orange peel is very little to non existant). Watch out as the adhesive backing will attract lint (during installation) and you WILL not be able to get that off. PS also has lifetime warranty = unlimited screen protector replacements. (got the whole kit for $12 during 50% off cyber monday).
Don't bother getting invisible shield, they suck and give you orange peel, and it's thick.
@Jaylito,
Did you notice any kind of cloudiness after you cleaned your screen with alchol/towel? (assuming you've cleaned your screen with alcohol/water) For some reason, mine clouded up on the top.

yeah I have. I guess it's normal tho. goes away if u keep rubbing the screen back & fourth with ur thumb. guess since the material... if it gets wet, it'll cloud a bit cause the moisture seeps thru the inside but it'll dry out bro.

guess I have to do more rubbing then cause it's still cloudy...
oh well....

I tried PhantomSkinz and that was a pain to put on (w/ water and soap), Realook was easy and it didn't peel at the edges.

Zagg Invisishield. Lifetime Warranty.

realook, hands down.
pros: crystal clear, feels like the glass itself, easy to clean, easy to apply, easy to reapply.
cons: a little expensive ($10 for 2, but its totally worth it)

MT4G_Slave said:
I tried PhantomSkinz and that was a pain to put on (w/ water and soap), Realook was easy and it didn't peel at the edges.
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Weird... for me, PS was MUCH EASIER than realook.
PS allows movement up/down/left/right with ease, and then you just squeeze out water.
For realook, it sucked to align the edges cause you can't move the film once you've "stickered" it on. Then you have to peel it back off and realign, causing lint (in my case) to adhere, and then I have to clean it again.

For me the realook was the best by far. I tried a couple of the wet app kind like invisishield and clear freak on the 4 mt4gs that I had and the realook was the best. I agree its a pain to put on, especially if you have animals because of dust and hair, but if you apply it in the bathroom after letting it steam up from the shower, I've found I can get it on without too much dust or hair falling on the screen. Also, get some extra scotch tape and place it on the front of the realook screen to keep your fingers off the adhesive side while applying it. Another nice thing is that each protector comes with two dots to apply to the camera lens in the back.
The only bad thing is that I think the realook attracts fingerprint grease worse than the wet app kind.
I have a zagg on my nexus s mostly because its all that's out right now and will put a realook on as soon as they are available.
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The Boxwave screen protectores look pretty good too, though I've never tried one myself.

Ghost Armor. Just added it today on my 4G n its cut to fit perfectly, including the sensors n camera. FEELS like the real glass n doesn't take away from the display like the ones Tmo sales. Avoid those *****es like the plague.
I used Zagg for my Nexus S.

I get generic ones from a guy named lcd-protectors on ebay, 5 for $3.50. They're the stiff kind with two protective layers that you peel off, one before you apply and one after. I'm too cheap to pay more.

i just ordered a full body cover kit from stealthguards.com
choosing the clear type and none of the colored ones, it was $2.85 (full body protection, just pay shipping)
$2.85 sure beats dishing out $25 for zagg which is the same crap.

What do you need a screen protector for? I haven't used a screen protector since I bought the G1 at launch, and I've never had a screen scratch. Keys in my pockets, etc. Never been a problem. These screens are incredibly scratch resistant.

I love these screen protectors that I bought on Amazon. Perfect on the first try with no bubbles! Check it out here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004E49TEG/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1294786757&sr=8-1:

BoxWare screen protector is well IDK how to rate it as it is just regular. What I did not like about it was it does "NOT" fully cover the screen as you have little gap very small which bugs me as I am neat. The feeling right now is artificial as I can tell it is there maybe cuz its still new as I applied it just 2hours ago. So lets wait and see how it turns out in long run.

I grabbed a Reallook screen protector off of amazon:
Pros: The feel and clarity are great
Cons: The cut. It has a cutout for the FFC and leaves a fair bit of space on all sides (as a result it's easy to get on) but it's really short on all sides in my opinion.

Part Four said:
What do you need a screen protector for? I haven't used a screen protector since I bought the G1 at launch, and I've never had a screen scratch. Keys in my pockets, etc. Never been a problem. These screens are incredibly scratch resistant.
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Tell that to the scratch in my screen that I got the first day of having the phone... yeah, needless to say, I have a screen protector now and its helped a lot.
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Ghost Armor for Captivate

I had my Samsung Captivate ghost armored at the mall a few weeks after I purchased it. It was around 40 bucks for the whole phone to be protected and came with a lifetime warranty.(If you get a replacement phone, keep the material they charge 10 bucks for re-installation/new material.)
I've had the phone and armor on it for several months now. I'd have to say, it was really not worth the money. After getting the phone done, the edges around the phone didn't feel right in the hand, you could feel the edges the plastic added and it wasn't pleasant. I remedied this with a simple rubber case, almost defeating the purpose of most of the ghost armor.
Today I decided to just take the armor off after having it on for roughly 3-4 months. The screen had began to get little bubbles in it in some places that was sort of annoying, also I sometimes didn't want to have a case on, and the phone as I said before was uncomfortable.
One thing they advertise when you purchase the ghost armor is it reduces the grease your fingers leave on the screen and make it much easier to remove. I experienced the complete opposite, the ghost armor seemed to almost attract even more grease and made it more difficult to "degrease" the screen. The bare screen works much better, it doesn't attract much grease and it's easier to clean.
I also noticed on the screen that were vertical lines in the plastic running over the screen, which was very noticeable when browsing a website or anything that was white. The final thing I noticed is it decreased the sensitivity of the screen. I had to more effort in making sure my fingers touched down on the screen for it to register, I also think it caused to my capacitive buttons on the back to go all out of whack as well.
Overall I would highly suggested not buying Ghost Armor. It's extremely overpriced and I had very many problems with it. I found no other reviews for the Samsung Captivate specifically on this site (or anywhere really), so I thought I'd throw up a quick review. Sorry I took no pictures, I never really thought about it.

Thanks for the review. I have seen that at the mall but did not know how well it would work.
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I have Ghost Armor on my screen and am using the Body Glove case. The Ghost Armor has been on there since July and has worked beautifully. I can't say anything about the protector on the rest of the phone but I can say that my screen is just as sensitive with the protector on as when it was off. And also its just about invisible. But I agree that finger oil does stick to the screen even though they advertise that it doesn't. I'm still happy with the purchase though. 15 bucks for just the screen and installation. They did a way better job than I would've done putting the thing on.

I just thought I'd throw in my $0.02. I agree with the OP when it comes to wrapping a whole phone in that stuff - it does a pretty poor job of adhering through curves and breaks. However, on the screen, I have to say, my wife's iPhone 4 screen protector still looks good after 8 months, and it hasn't peeled. As a screen protector, I think they do an okay job.
These armor protector products all seem to have a similar makeup. The two I've used are BestSkinsEver, and I have a Zagg screen shield on my Captivate (came with it). They seem to have a rubbery texture that attracts fingerprints pretty badly. Plus, they can feel a little sticky.
Worse, they can seem to get stuff stuck in the protector that doesn't come off easily by wiping on your shirt like a typical screen protector does.
Recently, though, I discovered that if you wet a microfiber cloth (or soft tissue) with Eyeglass lens cleaner, it really does a great job of cleaning the protector, and leaves it feeling nice and slick. I bought a 4 oz bottle of it at CVS for like $3, and it works great on my glasses and screen. I figure it's safe for the protector because it's safe for coated, delicate eyeglass lenses, and you only use a little bit on a cloth.

Ghost Armor = Monster Cable = Bose ?

Review: Martin Field's Overlay Screen Protector

I purchased this based on some feedback I had read one some other forums. I have tried nearly every major screen protector out there (Spigen, RearthUSA, Incipio, Switcheasy, BodyGuardz, XO Skins, Best Skins Ever, a ton of cheap ones off Amazon, Zagg, etc.). Up until this point, I had always found the Ultra Crystal from Spigen to be the best overall. Not anymore.
Before I get started I want to mention that the Martin Fields Screen protectors are not cheap. One screen protector for the Galaxy Nexus is $16.99 ($34.99 for one iPad protector and $29.99 for one Nexus 7 protector)and it only comes with one screen protector and a set of instructions. That's it.
One issue I've always found to be a huge problem with these dry, crystal clear screen protectors (Again, think Spigen Ultra Crystal) is that they show fingerprints so easily that it really can become a huge nuisance and to my surprise this one doesn't show much at all. I would say it's nearly as good at resisting fingerprints as a matte finish screen protector.
A very innovative feature this screen protector offers is that it is completely removable. They include a Mylar sheet that you can stick it to if you need to take it off. Just apply a small piece of scotch tape at the bottom corner and slowly pull to remove it. This does bring up the biggest problem that I have with this protector though. It is somewhat brittle. It will crease if you aren't careful with it. In fact, if you look in the pictures I have posted, you'll notice a slight crease in the bottom right corner. I've emailed the seller that I purchased it from on Amazon to see if they'll replace it. Not sure if that'll happen and it isn't all that distracting.
Quick Summary:
PROS:
As clear as any I've ever used
Does not pick up oils like most clear, dry application screen protectors generally do
Feels as close to glass as anything I've ever used
Reusable
Covers entire screen
Comes with a Camera Lens cover as well
CONS:
Not cheap. If you purchase directly from MartinFields.com it is $16.99 + $4.99 shipping. Be aware of fakes on Amazon.
Doesn't come with much. Just a simple paper package, a screen protector and a Mylar sheet to apply it to if you decide to take it off and use it later.
Fragile, it will crease if you aren't careful
Almost too big. If you don't line it up absolutely perfect it will not adhere on the sides, bottom. It's almost cut too perfect to a fault.
Anyway, here are some pictures. I had just ran my palm down the screen to show you just how well this does on hand oils.
Martin Field's Link

Well I take it no one found this helpful?

Breezer23 said:
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I already have one but I will concur with everything you said
Mine creased before I put it on but I was able to bend it back and can't tell you where the crease ever was at this point. Mine is scratched up pretty good at this point but I'm hard on phones so it's not surprising. I've yet to find a screen protector that holds up to my use.

Mind had a crease initially. I contacted their support line in Hong Kong and they had one sent out to me the next day. I ended up buying one for my Nexus 7 and my iPad 3.
It's weird, the Ultra Crystal's and many other dry application protectors leave blue smears when you try to wipe away fingerprints. These don't. They are there but they don't leave that annoying blue greasy smudge.

Invisible Defender Wrap around screen protector - Quick Review

I found this Screen protector on Amazon and what caught my eye is that it wraps around the side of the phone onto the back. at 2 for $15 CDN it was worth trying.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06ZZ5Q95L/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Application:
It was a little rough, the first one had too much adhesive. While trying to take off the 1st part, the Adhesive side, it actually peeled the 2nd part, the screen protector side off. It took a lot of force to get the Adhesive side off the screen protector itself, that i ended up ruining it. However the 2nd sheet was much easier to peel apart. The Adhesive layer comes off in 3 parts. the Screen and one for each side. Lining it up was fairly easy using the speaker, sensors and camera at the top. Once it was on properly, the sides wrapped around to the back of the phone. It's easier to smooth out the bubbles before putting the sides down.
Looks:
It looks really clear but when at an angle with a light there is an orange peel effect but this may have been from over zealous rubbing to get the bubbles out. Regardless I am quite pleased at how good it looks over other film screen protectors I've used in the past with other phones.
In a Case:
I'm using a a Spigen Tough Armor Case
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06XP4FP8N/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The screen protector has a very small clearance at all corners, when applied properly the corner of the case won't touch it nor lift it. Since it wraps around it will not lift it from the sides either, or at least shouldn't. I haven't been able to put it though any long term tests but then again i don't plan on taking the case off any more than i really have to.
Now what you all came for, pictures!
http://imgur.com/a/dNSCY

I was about to order the white dome but the review about the prominent lip tuned me to iqshields full body since I will have the phone naked in a holster. I was thinking about the liquid shields next but maybe I'll try this one the next go around if iqshields doesn't work out. Thanks for the find!

I do not see how that wrap around will work. There will be air pocket around the seem .
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I just installed one on mine and I dont think you will find a better one than this at this point in time. Its is case friendly with the 3 cases I have tried at this point. UAG, Spigen Liquid Armour, and a Ringke case, the corners are just to the point where they dont touch the case corners. The only potential area of issue for me is after putting on the screen protector (which for me went flawless after watching the youtube install video) was the area around the Power, Volume and Bixby buttons. After putting the case on it wants to "bubble" a bit in those areas. But once I rolled my finger over the edge, pulling back the case slightly it laid the protector back down. its only been a couple hours but so far so good and Im way happier with this $12 purchase over the 45 whitestone dome that seems to be hit or miss.
Photos were taken with the Spigen Liquid Armour case on. Also taken with my tablet so quality on a couple of them are crappy but you should get a good idea,

tiny70thomas said:
I do not see how that wrap around will work. There will be air pocket around the seem .
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Just imagine starting off at the edge of your phone to getting started and rolling the phone up like playdoh or a joint smoothing along as you go...to easy!

Thinking about ordering a set of these up. I don't like the orange peel look and the top does not look too case friendly. Does the orange peel smooth out over time or is it permanent?

Personally my opinion of this screen protector as I just purchased and returned it to amazon:
-it messes white whites on your screen. They dont look good anymore after I applied the protector.
-While it does wrap around the sides, when you put on the case it still lifts up the corners and creates little air pockets on the sides of the screen
- Extremely orange peel look on this screen protector.
I purchased the IQ shield case friendly updated version and the image quality is WAY better than this ringke one. Using the IQshield I can actually say for certain it feels like there isnt a screen protector on, with my eyes and my fingers. The ringke you can immediately with just your eyes tell there is something off due to what it does with white balance.
My advice is, dont buy the ringke, there are better ones out there.

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Thinking about ordering a set of these up. I don't like the orange peel look and the top does not look too case friendly. Does the orange peel smooth out over time or is it permanent?
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if it's lined up properly there is a tiny gap between the screen and the case, so it shouldn't lift. I only had it for a few day and it's getting less and less but i don't think it'll go away completely since i was a little over zealous trying But when i'm using it, it's barly noticable if at all. It's only when a light shines on the screen.
It's not for everyone but i feel it does a good enough job for a lot of people to be happy with. The fact that it wraps around is it's main selling point as it will completely protect the edge screen and the case won't lift it up IF applied properly

I applied one to my S8+ this morning. I think it's great for what it is. It's not glass, but it's smooth and feels like nothing is there. There's an ever so slight orange peel look, but I only notice it when looking at the phone from an angle in light, and it doesn't look like I'll have any lifting from my Ringke case. Overall I'm very pleased with it.

Why not try the BestSkinsEver protectors ? I actually have the edge-to-edge one installed w/ a Ringke Slim case and it is not lifting at all. I thought it would, but actually, it isn't. Now, I would like to use my Spigen Slim Armor case but when I put the phone in there, the corners started to lift up. My BSE case-friendly protectors came in but I will probably wait to install it at a later date.

This is the real deal. Hella nice! Works with my rhinoshield as well
Only issue I've found so far is that the side flaps distort the button mechanics. Takes more force to unlock phone and volume up/down
They'll break in tho. Love the combo