Just wondering what we will end up gaining. I know what the root does, so you dont have to tell me that. But what will we get from it, better ROM's with more functions, apps that can do more with the phone? What is expected?
One main gain is flashing recovery images. its nice not needing my pc to flash new roms.
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Well you can already do that with the clockworkmod and fake-flash.
Need to do the NAND root to do A2SD?
I am a noob and not too interested in getting to the programming guts of the EVO. I am currently running the damageless rom 3.0 and like it very much so I don't really want to mess with my current set-up if it is not necessary for me.
I do, however, very much want to do have Apps 2 SD when it is available in a future version of damageless rom so, my question is: Do I need to do the NAND root or can I just go with Toasts original root (Part 1) to do the A2SD at a later date? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Will this let us delete stock apps without a computer running 2.2 and ebay to uninstall some stuff.
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Will this let us delete stock apps without a computer running 2.2 and ebay to uninstall some stuff.
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Good lord, how was Ebay involved in uninstalling apps!?
Full root does allow you to delete system apps without being in recovery. You can delete most system apps while the phone is running, but some may give you a force close or a reboot.
If you aren't comfortable deleting files with adb commands you can use Android Commander here. Very useful GUI app which shows the contents of your phone like a file explorer.
One other benefit is that apps which need to write to /system are now working. One that comes to mind is adfree.
Packk01 said:
I am a noob and not too interested in getting to the programming guts of the EVO. I am currently running the damageless rom 3.0 and like it very much so I don't really want to mess with my current set-up if it is not necessary for me.
I do, however, very much want to do have Apps 2 SD when it is available in a future version of damageless rom so, my question is: Do I need to do the NAND root or can I just go with Toasts original root (Part 1) to do the A2SD at a later date? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
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Do a back up root part 2 then restore your backup you will be right back where you where before you started.
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My fiance has to send in her phone for replacement. Since the Incredible doesn't have the Privacy/backup app data option, I want to back up her apps so as not to lose data or have to manually do it in the market. From reading, Titanium Backup is the best app for the job and it requires root.
I searched for my answer but found not exactly what I was looking for...
I know I can run unrevoked3 to root the device, install TB then back up my apps...
From here I want to unroot the phone. I read I can install the official 2.1 ROM and it'll erase what unrevoked3 did.. Am I correct in assuming that?
Or could I just factory reset the phone (with the 2.2 OTA) instead of having to install that 2.1 ROM? And will doing this get rid of the custom recovery? Or does a whole ROM need to be flashed to replace the recovery?
Then on the new device, i have to root it, install TB again, install the backups... If it comes preloaded with 2.2, how do i lose root and still hold onto all the apps I just backed up?
Actually I don't care about the new device and getting rid of root...
I just want to make sure the phone I send back no longer has the custom recovery.
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To skip the rooting and unrooting, try AppBrain. You can build a list and sync your device with your apps. On the new phone, do the same and it will automatically redownload and install your missing apps.
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Will it download them through the market? I only ask so the downloads list in the market shows apps as installed and will notify of updates. And does it back up app data as well?
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And modifying my search I found the answer... Downgrading will erase custom recovery...
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Phaded said:
Will it download them through the market? I only ask so the downloads list in the market shows apps as installed and will notify of updates. And does it back up app data as well?
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Yes, it downloads through the market, and does updates, too. No it doesn't save app data. I try to stay away from that due to possible data corruption.
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Another question... So phone is rooted, s-off, cw recovery.
Outside of flashing the leak, how would one prepare the phone for the ota without losing apps and data? I've read flashing the stock recovery would do it, but I can't find the 2.2 one or I'm looking in the wrong place. Any help appreciated.
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Earlier this week my Sensation 4g died. I bought a Note 2. Little did I know that there were issues with it that I and others have with it, ie: no easy immediate way to do app to sd for instance. Another thing I wanted was to be able to add or take away data from installed apps by connecting the phone to a computer via usb and accessing the files that way, which again doesn't happen without some work.
Since then I have rooted the phone (according to the download mode screen, which says: current binary and system status is custom.
I have left everything stock except for the rooting part and installed Superuser and SuperSU and then tried to run Titanium Backup (free) when it said 'could not access root using \something\something\su command".
I have tried several other apps and methods of trying to do what I want (from the first paragraph) but none have succeeded either due lack of documentation (and I didn't know how to do a certain step or fix something) or it just didn't work.
So where am I at now? I have factory reset my phone and am now honestly not sure where to go or what to do from here. I've Googled and Googled but nothing quite seems to be able to fix what I need and if it does then it has the lack of documentation and can't help me.
Any thoughts or guides or something that anyone could post/link to? Thanks.
I believe this lets you save to SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960935
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funziebear said:
I believe this lets you save to SD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960935
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If I'm not mistaken but kernels don't deal with being able to save apps to sd. I could be wrong since I don't dabble in android dev. Thanks though.
We need background... 1st of all...
What way did you use to root (Cf_auto_root, Stock-root injected, etc)?
Does your phone still have exynos_exploit or did your phone come with that "OTA Update" pre installed?
What SD card are you using?
What rom/kernal are you trying to run?
Most of the time, in this particular forum, its seems best to just ask what your trying to accomplish within the various rom/kernal thread...
Like lets say im on Stick injected rom/kernal without extsd2internalsd (apps2sd) setup and lets say I want to go to Jedi Master 9.... I would then go to Jedi Master 9 thread and ask for help on how to effectively apply that rom with ExtSd2internalsd support from my current setup, and wait for the OP or seniors to reply... also while "patiently waiting" I would read/search through the hundreds of pages looking for answers/insights to my particular process... if needed might go to my own root process thread and ask for advice on how to get to jedi master 9
Id be more than willing to help you here but need some background on your phones current status and end rom/kernal to provide an answer (to be sure I dont lead you awry
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We need background... 1st of all...
What way did you use to root (Cf_auto_root, Stock-root injected, etc)?
Does your phone still have exynos_exploit or did your phone come with that "OTA Update" pre installed?
What SD card are you using?
What rom/kernal are you trying to run?
Most of the time, in this particular forum, its seems best to just ask what your trying to accomplish within the various rom/kernal thread...
Like lets say im on Stick injected rom/kernal without extsd2internalsd (apps2sd) setup and lets say I want to go to Jedi Master 9.... I would then go to Jedi Master 9 thread and ask for help on how to effectively apply that rom with ExtSd2internalsd support from my current setup, and wait for the OP or seniors to reply... also while "patiently waiting" I would read/search through the hundreds of pages looking for answers/insights to my particular process... if needed might go to my own root process thread and ask for advice on how to get to jedi master 9
Id be more than willing to help you here but need some background on your phones current status and end rom/kernal to provide an answer (to be sure I dont lead you awry
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Thanks. I did answer that I am running everything stock at the moment, just rooted, no kernel or rom. I have an 8gb class 4 microsd card. My root method was cf auto root. I also stated what I was hoping to achieve also (in my first paragraph). Hopefully this helps.
Oh, if possible I'd like the easiest way to remove or disable system apps like chat on or some of the tmobile stuff. I tried a couple different methods with that too but couldn't quite get it all to work.
I tried the qtadb app but couldn't get my device to be seen by the program on the computer and i tried that app because I had no idea where to start with regular adb, its been a long time since i've done any of this stuff.
To remove or disable system apps I use root uninstaller, sometimes it won't delete system apps on the first try just exit the app go back and do it again second attemt will do, for your data problem I'll try root browser or root Explorer
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To remove or disable system apps I use root uninstaller, sometimes it won't delete system apps on the first try just exit the app go back and do it again second attemt will do, for your data problem I'll try root browser or root Explorer
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Hmm ok thanks. I'll try those out when I get a chance. Thanks.
I always remove bloatware through Titanium Backup or with a debloated rom
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I always remove bloatware through Titanium Backup or with a debloated rom
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Doesn't that just lead back to my first problem of not being able to get Titanium Backup to run on my phone?
Are you sure your rooted (root checker)? I honestly havent heard of anyone else being unable to install rooted apps (unless they werent rooted (those people generally rerooted to solve that issue)
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Are you sure your rooted (root checker)? I honestly havent heard of anyone else being unable to install rooted apps (unless they werent rooted (those people generally rerooted to solve that issue)
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Well it turns out you can download and install apps requiring root but they just wont run correctly, if at all. I know because after my factory reset, i downloaded and ran 2 root checker apps, both of which said I no longer have root or something. So now I'm just going through the rooting process again.
Edit: I'm not rooted again, as checked by 2 root confirmation apps. Now to try to get TB running and remove bloatware.
Edit 2: Great success! I got TB to work, bought PRO and have just frozen everything i dont need or dont use.
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Well it turns out you can download and install apps requiring root but they just wont run correctly, if at all. I know because after my factory reset, i downloaded and ran 2 root checker apps, both of which said I no longer have root or something. So now I'm just going through the rooting process again.
Edit: I'm not rooted again, as checked by 2 root confirmation apps. Now to try to get TB running and remove bloatware.
Edit 2: Great success! I got TB to work, bought PRO and have just frozen everything i dont need or dont use.
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Much easier to use odin from mr robinson. Its already been prerooted
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Is it possible to remove the bloatware apps on a HOX without having to flash a new Rom? I can deal with rooting my phone but the rom business is confusing and id rather keep Sense but get rid of the pointless apps if thats possible
Thanks, apologies if this has been covered before.
Here's what we're going to do.
Root your device.
Get "Root Explorer" or any other file explorer with root capabilities.
Mount R/O.
Go to "system ->app" and remove what you like.
Keep in mind that there are some system apps that shouldn't be removed though!
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Here's what we're going to do.
Root your device.
Get "Root Explorer" or any other file explorer with root capabilities.
Mount R/O.
Go to "system ->app" and remove what you like.
Keep in mind that there are some system apps that shouldn't be removed though!
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Thanks, will do.
Is it easy to upgrade rom, say when KLP is released?
You must make a nandroid backup directly after flashing the custom recovery. You need it to get back to full stock to be able to have official updates.
If you want to delete system apps i would like to recommend titanium backup.....you can uninstall and re-install system apps.
Removing Bloatware
Try an app called "Root App Delete". I tested it by removing one piece of bloatware and seems to work very well (you must be rooted).
Being over cautious I have disabled (rather than deleted) all other bloatware for 2 weeks now just to be sure all is ok to delete.
yes it is possible
captaincrayola said:
Is it possible to remove the bloatware apps on a HOX without having to flash a new Rom? I can deal with rooting my phone but the rom business is confusing and id rather keep Sense but get rid of the pointless apps if thats possible
Thanks, apologies if this has been covered before.
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There are many apps listed
you can try sd maid, rom toolbox, root uninstall,
See you have many options now
Thanks for your replies, can you not get OTA updates when you're rooted even if you stick with stock Rom then?
Yes you can but you have to leave the rom itself 100% stock (no removing of system apps) and you have to reflash the stock recovery after applying the root because you root the rom via a custom recovery.....i dont know exactly if a tool can root the rom without a custom recovery.....
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What happens after the root ?
Do I have to run factory reset ?
Do all my settings stay the same ?
Do I now have the SD app and media transfer capabilities ?
Any feedback and info will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks guys
You should just Google that question and read about why you should root. Google is your friend.
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emeres said:
What happens after the root ?
Do I have to run factory reset ?
Do all my settings stay the same ?
Do I now have the SD app and media transfer capabilities ?
Any feedback and info will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks guys
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Nothing.
No.
Yes.
No.
Rooting just gives you access to the system partition. That is it. Nothing else. It does this by adding a system app that acts as a gateway over what apps can and can't have acecss to making changes to the system partition.
Once oyu are rooted you then can use apps and other tricks to add thigns like SD stoarge and stuff like that.
emeres said:
What happens after the root ?
Do I have to run factory reset ?
Do all my settings stay the same ?
Do I now have the SD app and media transfer capabilities ?
Any feedback and info will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks guys
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2 questions for you:
what Android and baseband versions is your S4 on?
what are you interested in doing after rooting? do you want to stay near-stock or change/customize everything?
I think I am going to use CyanogenMod Installer and be done with it. This seems to be the simplest and most safe solution for newbies like me.
Plus Cyanogen is really close to Kitkat UI so I will just go with that.
One question though:
I know that I don't have to root my phone to use the installer, is the phone being rooted using the installer ? Or does it stay unrooted with the new OS ?
emeres said:
I think I am going to use CyanogenMod Installer and be done with it. This seems to be the simplest and most safe solution for newbies like me.
Plus Cyanogen is really close to Kitkat UI so I will just go with that.
One question though:
I know that I don't have to root my phone to use the installer, is the phone being rooted using the installer ? Or does it stay unrooted with the new OS ?
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KitKat is not a UI. KitKat is a version of the Android operating system. The UI is determined by the ROM, which uses the operating system as a base.
You will find that Cyanogen UI is VERY different from the stock TouchWiz ROM UI that you have now. (You may like it better. Half of custom romusers prefer AOSP roms like CM over stock ROMs like TouchWiz or Sense. Half the people hate them. It's all about prefernce)
As fro root, root is not in the phone. Root is in the operating system itself. Cyanogen comes with root preinstalled, so by installing CM you will have root. All custom roms are pre-rooted like this. All root really is is an app in the system partition called Superuser. That's it.
Thanks for the info again.
My friend is trying to back up his data before we both proceed with the CyanogenMod Installer but has difficulties with backing up third party apps. He says he can back up Samsung apps with no problem but there is always a problem with third party apps. Any recommendation on good backup app ? He also purchased Titanium backup but he needs to root his phone to use it.
That's for my friend now I have one more question:
Will I have googleapps with cyanogenmod installer right from the start ? I still want to use google play store, gmail, google maps and so forth.
emeres said:
Thanks for the info again.
My friend is trying to back up his data before we both proceed with the CyanogenMod Installer but has difficulties with backing up third party apps. He says he can back up Samsung apps with no problem but there is always a problem with third party apps. Any recommendation on good backup app ? He also purchased Titanium backup but he needs to root his phone to use it.
That's for my friend now I have one more question:
Will I have googleapps with cyanogenmod installer right from the start ? I still want to use google play store, gmail, google maps and so forth.
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Just root the phone first and make your back ups.
CF Auto root. It takes 30 seconds. It's the easiest thing in the world. You literally CANNOT screw it up.
Root hte phone, make backups, then install CM.
Also, Helium backup is what I use. Makes everything into a clean batch operation. And it's free. But you need to be rooted.
If I don't need to back anything up should I still root my phone ? As you mentioned before CM Installer comes with the root.
And also after the CM is installed will I have an option to go back to my previous system ?
Will it install Stock Recovery ? And what does that mean ? I am sorry I am really new to all this. Just trying to learn.
emeres said:
If I don't need to back anything up should I still root my phone ? As you mentioned before CM Installer comes with the root.
And also after the CM is installed will I have an option to go back to my previous system ?
Will it install Stock Recovery ? And what does that mean ? I am sorry I am really new to all this. Just trying to learn.
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You can always go back via odin (search and ye shall find more aboit odin). Just install CM and be done with it. Take the plunge.
Sent from your phone. You should be more careful where you leave that thing.
One more and last question:
After CM installation using CM installer, do I get all google apps installed ? Such as Gmail, Maps, Google Voice Search ?
And is lookout app working with CM ?
emeres said:
One more and last question:
After CM installation using CM installer, do I get all google apps installed ? Such as Gmail, Maps, Google Voice Search ?
And is lookout app working with CM ?
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Not sure with the cm installer but I don't think so. Tge gapps package doesnt come with cm when you flash it in recovery. But its easy to do. Just download gapps, they are in every single rom thread on xda, and flash them in recovery
Sent from your phone. You should be more careful where you leave that thing.
Im using stock galaxy tab 3 lte sm-t215 (rooted) and i did a grievious mistake, wiped data/factory reset in stock recovery with not a single backup.
Ive tweak my device so much the way i wanted it already. PLEASE HELP if there is any way i can revert/restore everything back WITHOUT the use of any pc. Only terminal emulator.. :crying:
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Im using stock galaxy tab 3 lte sm-t215 (rooted) and i did a grievious mistake, wiped data/factory reset in stock recovery with not a single backup.
Ive tweak my device so much the way i wanted it already. PLEASE HELP if there is any way i can revert/restore everything back WITHOUT the use of any pc. Only terminal emulator.. :crying:
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No.
@crazyVato, sorry, i meant to expand on that answer but got distracted.
for what you want to do and actually save as a backup you need to be rooted WITH custom recovery.
So long as your system is intact you can repeat the process of customizing but what's
wiped is gone. =(
m
I have a lot of empathy for your situation. Not many things give you that sick feeling in the pit of your stomach, but this is definitely one of them.
I am no expert but everything that I know tells me that there is no way to restore your device back the way way you had it.
I'm not certain which files remain intact following a factory reset but some do remain. Is it possible that once you rooted you made a backup that you don't remember making? It wouldn't hurt to reroot and poke around for a clockwork folder. SD Maid will also help find big files, in case a backup was stored in mnt/shell.
Best of luck to you.
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I have a lot of empathy for your situation. Not many things give you that sick feeling in the pit of your stomach, but this is definitely one of them.
I am no expert but everything that I know tells me that there is no way to restore your device back the way way you had it.
I'm not certain which files remain intact following a factory reset but some do remain. Is it possible that once you rooted you made a backup that you don't remember making? It wouldn't hurt to reroot and poke around for a clockwork folder. SD Maid will also help find big files, in case a backup was stored in mnt/shell.
Best of luck to you.
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Well i did get sd maid pro.. weird thing is it stated that my device is not rooted. I downloaded su root checker to double check and it states rooted. Gosh!!
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It says you're not rooted but can ES Exlplorer see a lever higher than sdcard?
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It says you're not rooted but can ES Exlplorer see a lever higher than sdcard?
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it stated rooted as soon as i update my su binary in supersu and update my busybox.. anyway, yeah there's no way i can get everything back.. ive done my best to tweak as much as i could remember it before its wiped out. so imma end this thread and would like to thank to the 3 of you with ur solutions..
for me, sd maid is a nono.
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